My first title for this was “Jumping the Sharkington Post” but after considering how Arianna’s selling out has exposed her and HP for what they really are to so many, I thought writing another negative parody of their name would be kind of inconsiderate. I mean, this could be the first genuine thing she’s done to empower the Progressive community so wouldn’t slamming her be a bit unkind?

Instead, I thought about all the fantastic people that this has brought to other legit Progressive sites such as ours and the process it takes to change what one calls home for their blogging.

It’s almost like ending a romantic relationship. Except with less restraining orders.

So, with Valentine’s Day coming up, that theme brought to mind the old Paul Simon song and I considered…there must be 50 ways to leave your blogger…

You just slip off the screen, Jean
Make a new click, Rick
Don’t need to be a mod, Rod
Just get yourself free
Hop on the web, Jeb
You don’t need to fanned, Jan
Just drop off the troll, Joel
And get yourself free

On the other hand, being committed to a blog can be more like a marriage…and in this case I think bloggers should sue Arianna Huffington for alimony.

After all, they bent over a hot laptop all day, slaving to put fresh content on her site day after day and what did they get for it? Nothing but pictures of half-naked Kardashians!

So, as the cause of this divorce, I think she should first be sued for alimony under a charge of infidelity. I mean, consider the gall of her repeatedly expressing her fidelity to Progressive values while all the time being in bed with Corporate America.

And being that corporations are regarded as being people, we should sue AOL for AOA (Alienation of Affections). I say we go for it all including custody of the blogs. Let’s face it, Huffington Post would be far better off with its caring family instead of an unprincipled mother who exploits it for her own personal greed.

She can have weekend visitation at the site and be with it on every other holiday.

And don’t get me started on compensation for mental anguish from all the trolls, deceptive headlines and heavy handed moderation! We should be compensated for all the spa time and margaritas our doctors prescribe for us to recover from such emotional cruelty.

I’m making a call now to the law firm of Bleed & Soakem, I’ll let you know how it goes but always remember, there are always more blogs in the intertubes.

UPDATED:

Here are links that you can share over at HP with your friends to spread the word about The Planet:

Referral site: http://viasite.wordpress.com/

YouTube video promo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fueDHuMb1vU

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KB723
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KB723

Cher I am just saying the our gov’t does Not have the health of it’s people at the peoples best interest. Look how they are looking to do away with the EPA, I am sure the FDA will be next. Sadly I must also say that “My Opinion” is that our gov’t is a shadow gov’t. They do as they are told.

Have you ever spent any time looking at infowars.com? I like to look at All aspects, and am just as free as anyone else to have my own opinions, POV.

What is your POV Cher?

Chernynkaya
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BTW– do you believe Alex Jones? You mentioned that you read infowars.

KB723
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KB723

Cher I look at all the aspects of politics, or news? I even read the Onion. Alex Jones as far as I am concerned helped in starting the Tea Party movement.

Go check it out sometime. To be Honest I am actually afraid of spending Any time at that page, but do go to check it out from time to time.

BTW, I made NO quote of anything religious. I also enjoyed watching Jesse Venturas show, when it was on.

Chernynkaya
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My POV, KB is that the New World Order conspiracy theory is bunk.But worse, I consider it potentially harmful bunk. Before the 1990’s, New World Order conspiracism was limited to the militias and fundamentalist Christians concerned with the Antichrist. Any theory those two bring forth is worthy of contempt, IMO. Lately, some conspiricists on the Left have adopted it too–but about The Fed, which doesn’t give it any more credence.

As if all that weren’t enough reason for me to consider New World Order folks beyond the pale, the conspiracy is also connected to anti-semitism, especially when the Left starts conflating NWO with The Fed. And from there they go to on to talking about how the Fed is run by a cabal of Jewish bankers, and start quoting the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

I hope that answers your question. and yes, of course you may have your opinion. But then you should be straightforward about it and not dance around.

KB723
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KB723

Cher. I was Not dancing around. I was stating my POV cos you asked. Many thanks for your POV.

By the way I make it a point to look from many perspectives and Am Not a conspiracy theorist.

Chernynkaya
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I appreciate the clarification. However, you say the government is “a shadow government.” That sounds like a conspiracy theory to me, but maybe you mean something else that I can’t figure out.

KB723
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KB723

Cher I answered your question, and made it a point to mention that I am NOT a conspiracy theorist.

Again, You asked my POV and I kindly shared it with you.

zootliberal
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Cher, looks like I wandered in smack dab in the middle of a heated conversation. Trying to find the beginning of this thread now, but so far I throw in with you on this.

Chernynkaya
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Hey, zoot! I was just asking if anyone had seen you all weekend. Glad you’re OK! BTW–it’s a new conversation, but I think it may be over pretty quickly.

zootliberal
Member

I miss you guys too, and will be back soon. Just stopped in to subscribe and now have to dash. take care.

KB723
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KB723

zoot Take Care.

zootliberal
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Hi Cher, as I just told KB, been tied up with a hell of a work schedule, which is just abating. I have tried to keep up here, but you guys are incredibly prolific. wow.

KillgoreTrout
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Hey zoot. How’s the coolest muppet on the planet?

Chernynkaya
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Well, we missed you!

KB723
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KB723

zoot, How’s Things I was wondering where you have been lately.

I find nothing here “Heated” Cher asked my POV and I answered her.

zootliberal
Member

Hey KB723, I realized I overstated after I left that post, it seems like there’s a longer conversation but can’t find it. I have been heads down in a heavy work schedule for over a week, which is coming to an end soon, thank goodness. I miss this place.

KB723
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KB723

zoot, Nice to see you again. 🙂

KillgoreTrout
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Foxhole, here, a person can actually grow. The freedom of expression and the respect that others give to you and your opinions allow for intellectual growth.
HP is like they say about cigarettes, it will stunt your growth. The only thing really frowned upon here is nastiness, which I never saw in any of your comments at, “that other place.”

zootliberal
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Hi Killgore, saw your message in thread above, good to hear from you. This is one tired green muppet, sorry i haven’t been around, though looked in occasionally and was happy to see this place jumping. I will be back soon enough, will have more time on my hands as my work schedule died down. you take care and will chat soon.

Foxhole Atheist
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Foxhole Atheist

Brand new HP refugee, here. Thanks for opening your door to me! I should probably take my shoes off before I enter. After all, I have been wading through $316 million dollars worth of shite.

NanaMex
Member

Hey Foxhole, good to see you. New here myself, but finally located the kettle. ‘ave a cuppa and set awhile.

jkkFL
Guest

Foxhole, you’ll probably want to pitch those shoes! You can walk barefoot in here- nothing to wade through except freedom!
Welcome 🙂

Kalima
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Welcome to The Planet Foxhole Atheist, hope you will enjoy it here. I find that it’s much more comfy without shoes anyway.

A few links you might find useful. If you need any help just holler or leave a comment in our Help Desk.

http://en.gravatar.com/site/signup/

http://planetpov.com/wp-admin/profile.php

http://planetpov.com/2011/02/09/tips-for-newcomers-and-regulars-alike/

http://planetpov.com/about/

And this if you want to write a post/article.

http://planetpov.com/faq/authors-guidelines/

http://planetpov.com/faq/how-to-guide-for-authors/

Foxhole Atheist
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Foxhole Atheist

Noted! Great to be here. Thanks!

Kalima
Admin

Welcome aboard!

jdmn17
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jdmn17

Foxhole!

Welcome and as Kilgore wrote, put away the code words and be human again. Nice to have you. There will be others coming round to orient you. I came over two weeks ago, Black Monday, and love it.

Look to the right of the comments and watch the boxes of recent posts, then you can find people.

Redemption Song II
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Redemption Song II

From a fellow fugee, welcome to the Planet, Foxhole!

KillgoreTrout
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FoxholeAtheist,good to see you land on The Planet. And here, you can actually use the word shit, without the e.

Foxhole Atheist
Member
Foxhole Atheist

That makes me giddy like a little kid. Shit shit shit!

KillgoreTrout
Member

Isn’t freedom wonderful?

Foxhole Atheist
Member
Foxhole Atheist

I promise to not use it gratuitously. Not always easy though…

Chernynkaya
Member

Foxhole– as a way to get stuff off your chest (if need be) there is an excellent post about HP here:

http://planetpov.com/2011/02/20/invite-for-collaboration-part-2/

KillgoreTrout
Member

FA, I usually make an effort to use other words than those on Carlin’s, “list.” But it is nice to know that I can if any of those words relay my meaning more fully.
I always thought the, “bad words filter,” at HP was extremely childish.

Foxhole Atheist
Member
Foxhole Atheist

Agreed. My contempt for the dark side gets the best of me sometimes but here I already feel like my thoughts are more collected. Heres to lower blood pressure!

escribacat
Member

Foxhole 😆 Welcome!

KB723
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KB723

Foxhole, That’s Funny. Again, Welcome to the Planet.

Chernynkaya
Member

HAH! Welcome, Foxhole!

James Michael Brodie
Member

Well written. It has, indeed, been a difficult parting for me after nearly three years, thousands of entries and hundreds of “Fans.” HP, to its credit, did bring me into the online world, and for that I am grateful.

I guess you never forget your first.

Buddy McCue
Member

I’m glad you made it over here.

jdmn17
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jdmn17

First moderation? First deletion of a well thought out post? First snarky comment about your offspring or lack of a brain?

Kidding. I am grateful to HP for eventually getting me here.

Welcome JM

Truth
Member

JMBrodie, you’re sure not alone with this. There is one thing that I’m grateful for to AH, and that is she started an excellent blogger community. Sadly, as I realized somewhere on the road, it was not in her interest to make proper use of this. But, thanks to her all of us met and thanks to Planet POV now we can get started on the real thing! Very pleased to meet you here!

pfz
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pfz

What a great place, glad I found the link.

Redemption Song II
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Redemption Song II

I’m late, but welcome to the Planet, Fuzzy. 🙂

jdmn17
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jdmn17

Hey Fuzzy, welcome

TekVahana
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I never had any socks at HP. (The only time I ever use them is when I’m setting up a web thingamajingy and need a generic user ID to check the install out from that perspective instead of as an admin).

I hardly log in over there any more, usually just a short lurk for a quality check, and to see what my favorite peeps may have to say.

The quality has been going downhill for well over a year and never seems to get any better. It’s more tabloid and the ‘Maudes’ just keep getting goofier. Sorry to hear about so many folks getting the banhammer dropped on them for expressing themselves in any civilized manner.

I copied the PlanetPOV logo and re-sized it to one half and added it to the banner rotation of a small site I do volunteer work on, and will add PlanetPOV to the links pages on the few client sites I currently have when it’s OK with my them to do so. (Will also add a link in my sigs soonest). Best I can do to help promote PlanetPOV at this time. Need more graphic elements from 80×15 on up to 468×60. Is there a ‘link to us’ page I’m missing that has that kind of stuff? If not, I’ll try to knock a few together as soon as time allows.

Wiseronenow
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Wiseronenow

Good morning all. Well, couldn’t sleep and thought I’d check in on varioius sites to see how the world has changed since I last ventured there. Well, but no surprise something that really got my juices flowing: Arianna Huffington on Bill Maher’s show yesterday. She is now claiming that her site is NOT political and never was!! Seriously? Then the question bears asking: WHY!!! has she ONLY been on “political­” talk shows? I never heard her venture onto those shows and talk about fashion, entertainm­ent and the like which she is now claiming is the actual makeup of her site. But, no surprise that Bill wanted to continue with his sucking up to actually ANYONE that he would give her a forum to counter any negative comments about her AOL buyout. But, then Bill goes right on to ask HER a POLITICAL QUESTION and about Obama. Unbelievab­le. And, OF COURSE, she said nothing positive about Obama. She should have said: “no, no Bill ask me a question about what Suri Cruise’s spring fashion line might be”. The woman is a total hypocrite.

Artist50
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Artist50

All I can say is – huh?

Buddy McCue
Member

“Not political?”

I’m not saying that I don’t believe you, but it’s hard to believe she actually said that! As if there were no evidence to the contrary.

Arianna Huffington is a regular guest on KCRW’s “Left, Right and Center” (which is a really good show BTW; I listen to it via podcast.)

Robert Scheer is there, and he is introduced as representing the Left. Tony Blankley is introduced as the Right, and Arianna Huffington is always introduced as “representing the Progressive/Independent blogosphere.”

She is not introduced like that sometimes, but EVERY time on this weekly show.

What do the words “progressive” and “independent” mean? Are they or are they not political labels?

You are absolutely right; Arianna Huffington is acting like a hypocrite.

reveal5
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reveal5

I’ve had two occasions that Internet Explorer closed this website due to security concerns over unwanted or malicious or unwanted addons trying to access my computers memory improperly…any ideas?

TekVahana
Member

I wish I did. But I don’t do Windows. I’m getting the old “Busy or unresponsive script. Cancel or Continue” error dialog box twice on each page load in Firefox this evening that I wasn’t getting earlier. Any chance they are related?

One thing I hated about the ‘Po’ was there were just too many fracking scripts running on every page. Definitely not designed for accessibility from older hardware.

Lots better here from that stand point in spite of having to click ‘Continue’ and then repeat again for every page load. At least this one hasn’t crashed my browser like HP did if I hung out too long.

audadvnc
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audadvnc

Over at CorpsePost today – every comment is moderated and held offline, even stuff that agrees with an article’s author. Even that “7 worst stick figures” post!

It appears that they’re choking off the comments stream, with the intent of becoming a 1-way feed. Yet every 3rd comment is a complaint against over moderation.

Interesting times, watching the zombie site collapse on itself.

jdmn17
Member
jdmn17

I went over this morning and got really pissed (that’s such a singular phenom for my otherwise calm persona) and wrote about Michele Bachman trashing FLOTUS. Once again the posters were raging about the government intruding on peoples lives despite

1. FLOTUS is not an elected official and cannot enact legislation
2. They don’t want government intrusion but they want to intrude on womens bodies.

How they can trash her for wanting to help childhood obesity and now nursing mothers to use breast milk for health reasons is beyond me.

One (annfromca) actually said “creating a nanny state” was one the MAJOR issues the right had wit POTUS

So I threw some stuff out and challenged others and got two posts out of ten to post.

And I wonder why I’m here.

escribacat
Member

JDM, Remember Nancy’s “Just say no” campaign? I bet the rightwingers didn’t get all paranoid and hysterical and “nannystate” about that.

liberallioness76
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liberallioness76

It sickens me how much venom some in the rightwing have set aside specifically for the FLOTUS. All the hullabaloo over her tackling childhood obesity is ridiculous. Fist of all, obesity IS a big problem nowadays. When I was in school, there was perhaps one overweight child in my grade each year… and I grew up in Trenton, NJ so the class sizes weren’t exactly small. Now overweight children are more or less the norm.

As for the whole “nanny state” argument, it isn’t as though she is the first First Lady to have a pet cause involving children. With Baraba Bush it was illiteracy. With Nancy Reagan it was “just say no”. I don’t recall anybody making a stink over it being “big government” intrusion back then. Why is it such a big deal now?

I hate to say this, but I think what they are really offended about has absolutely nothing to do with the validity of her cause or that she is doing what so many First Ladies have done by tackling a pet project.

jdmn17
Member
jdmn17

Liberallioness

So we can attribute that to skin color, POTUS party affiliation or, as some suggest, she’s using the platform of FLOTUS to launch a Senatorial campaign. That one was funny and a slap at Hilary. What I don’t get is how women buy into it. We talk about TPers and how they vote against their own interests yet here are Republican women supporting the further intrusion of government into their lives. Frankly I think most people are flummoxed by the whole obesity thing, you raise you kids, mine are vegetarian and both of them are thicker than kids when I grew up. And then there are the truly obese, I don’t know, maybe the parents are obese and don’t care. Or maybe they offer up what I’ve seen for years. Food stamps don’t cover a lot of green leafy vegetables so you go with what you can afford. Pasta being one. We don’t eat worth a damn in this country, esp at the lower end of the economic scale

Lastly, there is one dark thought I have (such a conspiracy theorist). Maybe most of the noise is coming from a well funded and very below the radar attempt by the fast food industry to discredit her and anyone else who attempts to teach us how to eat better. Nah, that would be like saying the energy companies are working to discredit global warming. Never mind 🙂

KillgoreTrout
Member

jdm, I think in a lot of cases of obesity it is simply a matter of a lack of not only exercise, but from children leading sedentary lives.
I think a lot of technical, “gadgets,” like video games and computers, television replace the time that used to be allowed for playing outside, sports and a certain amount of physical labor.
We live in a society where technology makes our lives less and less dependent on physical activity. People drive everywhere, millions in office jobs that require no physical involvement, children, no longer having a physical form of recess.
And, much of it is just plain laziness.

Artist50
Member
Artist50

There is something to the conspiracy theory but it’s the government and what they have subsidized and recommended that we eat that is making our kids fat. Corn syrup is cheaper than sugar and is in everything from pop, cereals to lunch meats and our bodies don’t process it the same as sugar resulting in weight gain and diabetes.

I’m a sorority house mom at a small university in the Midwest and every year my 100 girls are getting heavier, even though more are vegetarians and we offer fresh fruits and salads at every meal. The government lunch programs have been filled with processed foods for 30 years and until recently the food chart had us eating more grain than fruits and veggies. Again, let’s look at who the corporations are that are lobbying the government – fast food and huge companies that make processed food.

Chernynkaya
Member

Artist50– I’m sorry, that question was a response to KB7. I totally agree with you about the govt’s collusion with big agra.

Artist50
Member
Artist50

Cher:
There’s no reply to answer you so I’m replying to myself. No I don’t think the government is trying to kill us – some of it is ignorance. It’s like saying butter and eggs were bad for you and then finding that margarine was much worse. Many people believed margarine had less calories. I just think they have put money into processed foods and corn subsidies not knowing how bad they are for us and they the have been influenced by the large corporatiions. The medical field has little knowledge of nutrition and really has been slow to be concerned when you think of the great strides we’ve made in medicine. I’d have to do some research but I’m on my phone – I’ve done some before. I’ll try to get back to you.

Chernynkaya
Member

KB– Are you saying the government is trying to kill us? Forgive me but I can’t think of anything else you could mean. And if so, why would they do that?

KB723
Guest
KB723

Artist50. I agree with your post, but have my own views on why things are that way.

Maybe my own conspiracy that the gov’t is doing it’s best to reduce our population?

What do you think?

Khirad
Member

Seeing as we’re watching her power collapse I think this is appropriate to the times:

!يسقط، يسقط أيريانه
Down, down Arianna!

Wiseronenow
Member
Wiseronenow

Wanted to point out an article today by Jason Linkins on HP. For some reason he felt a strong need to justify why he writes for HP. Interesting that he felt he had to do that now. Maybe, it’s because he doesn’t want any of the taint of the HP merger with AOL to fall upon his (ahem) journalist integrity. Nonethelsss, while reading the article the sucking up was more than obvious, yet he tried to frame it otherwise.

escribacat
Member

I read that article, wiser. I’ve always been a fan of Jason but I was really disappointed in the condescending tone of that article. It was pathetic.

Wiseronenow
Member
Wiseronenow

You are right, it was condescending to all the readership there. “You silly bloggers, you don’t truly understand how the real world works, and by the way, I’ll do anything to keep this gig. Even if it means I have to bow at the feet of Queen Arianna. I’ll just let ‘cha’s believe I’m one of ‘y all.”

Buddy McCue
Member

I wanted to point out that Adbusters has just published a short article about The Huffington Post’s sellout called “Huff & Puff It Down.”
http://www.adbusters.org/blogs/adbusters-blog/huff-puff-it-down.html#comment-28869

There’s a comment section there where some people are recommending other places to go as an alternative to the HuffPost. I did a quick search of the page and found that Planet POV was not mentioned yet, so I did that.

intotheabyss
Member
intotheabyss

You are the reason I’m here then. I found the Adbusters #huffpuff post at Amped Status and wound up here thanks to your link, so thank you.

Buddy McCue
Member

Good to see you!

I’m glad you found us here.

Khirad
Member

Thanks for rectifying that! And welcome!

boomer1949
Member

Cool! Thanks Buddy.

By the way, I must have missed you yesterday. Welcome to The Planet! We’re glad you’re here.

***EDIT*** I went to Adbusters and added a short reply to your post:

There IS a modicum of moderation and members are expected to abide by The Planet’s TERMS OF USE: http://planetpov.com/faq/terms-of-use/

Buddy McCue
Member

Thanks, it’s good to BE here! I think I’m gonna like it.

BTW, I notice that “Huff & Puff It Down” is also being carried by Current News:
http://current.com/news/92973255_huffing-it-down-because-its-not-hers-to-sell.htm?xid=PTNiGoog

And Common Dreams as well:
http://www.commondreams.org/further/2011/02/09-0

Apparently the word is getting around.

*** EDIT ***

Yes, thanks for pointing that out, Boomer. I should have said “No excessive and irrational moderation.” The Terms of Use are important to maintain civility.

Khirad
Member

We should try the #huffpuff thing too.

Buddy McCue
Member

I would, if I ever get around to figuring out how Twitter works!

You’re right though.

HotChocolateParty
Member

You guys are going to love this (on HP this morning)

http://twitpic.com/3y8s9d

Wiseronenow
Member
Wiseronenow

Disgusting and yet it got past the mod’s there. Of course, note the time when it was posted: 4:59AM. Early morn hours usually allow posts to filter through. So…..food for thought IF anyone wants to spread the further word on this site. :o)

topo19
Member
topo19

HotChotcolateParty: That picture leaves me speechless and disgusted, thanks for posting.

bito
Member

The Huffington Post Bloggers Want a Share of the Pie

Arianna Huffington recently sold her popular news website The Huffington Post to AOL for $315 million and estimates suggest that the deal will make Ms. Huffington richer by as much as $100 million.

The Huffington Post has an army of few thousand bloggers who contribute on everything from politics to entertainment to tech and a majority of these contributors, if not all, aren’t paid a dime for their work. They get fame but no monetary rewards.

Now some of these Huffington Post contributors are demanding a share of the pie. They’ve setup a Facebook Page, appropriately titled Hey Arianna, asking Arianna to “give a little back to the unpaid writers who built the Huffington Post.”

This $315 million buyout by AOL, along with her $4 million annual salary as part of the deal, was built on the backs of hard-working writers who never saw a dime for their labor.

Many of Huffington Post’s most productive contributors broke news and provided astute analysis to regular beats, allowing Huffington to avoid hiring a paid journalist for the same coverage.

H/T 8s for the tweet to the Planet.

FerraKnows
Member
FerraKnows

Sweet!

TruthWins
Member
TruthWins

Good! Finally they speak up – (as we finally all do.)
That facebook page would be one thing I’d like to check out, but I don’t want to join there just for this…

Khirad
Member

Understandable. There’s still other ways. It’s just a medium.

Fun fact, I only joined originally to be informed of local protests and Mir Hossein Mousavi’s page.

Plutocrats really suck
Member
Plutocrats really suck

Hiya Tex! :]

texliberal
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texliberal

Hey Plu, quite the quandary!

bito
Member

New tweet:

PlanetPOV PlanetPOV.com
New Post by Chernynkaya http://bit.ly/gSpoxA Tips for Newcomers #huffpuff @huffingtonpost @mike_california @robertgreenwald @ppov3

;-)that will go to all of the followers of HP’ tweeter account.