Live Events – The 2nd Democratic Debate – Night 2

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We’re hosting a live chat tonight to accompany the Democratic Debate, Night 2 that begins at 5:00pm PDT on CNN/CNN International. Hope to see you then! AdLib 8 hours ago

Hey TOCB! AdLib 4 hours ago

And so it begins… AdLib 4 hours ago

I will be so pleased when we compress this field down to 5 or so. AdLib 4 hours ago

Hey Murph! AdLib 4 hours ago

I can be here tonight. Did you get my note from Ray? MurphTheSurf3 4 hours ago

What did you think of last night’s effort. MurphTheSurf3 4 hours ago

Didn’t see it yet, will read it! AdLib 4 hours ago

Yeah….he is locked out for some reason….fantastic writer. MurphTheSurf3 4 hours ago

Getting something to wet my whistle….. MurphTheSurf3 4 hours ago

I think Bernie and Warren did what they had to do and that the “moderates” just came off as downers and pseudo Repubs. None of them should be in the next debate. What about you? AdLib 4 hours ago

I am a pragmatist…..lots of promises, expansive policy, massive shifts in national life…..HOW? I have read through Trumps, Warren and Harris’ programs and the arguments are circular. As you might guess I am for the moderates. I am willing to have a strong “progressive” but as number 2. I know you disagree. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

I meant Bernie…not Trump MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Why are they not going after Trump’s disastrous hollowing out of the ACA, and Medicare? MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Pragmatism never made voters enthusiastic to turn out. Vision matters. You shoot for the moon and if you catch a star, great! AdLib 3 hours ago

The should be arguing for the ACA AS IT WAS INTENDED.Which was far more expansive than it ended up being. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Ad…I see your point. I do. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Yes! The ACA has been hobbled by Trump and Repubs. AdLib 3 hours ago

My worry is that Trump et. al. will be able to frame the argument that the Dems are looking to socialism and use the words of these candidates in sound clip after clip to reinforce the message. Maybe it won’t matter but as you know I do not hold much stock in the quality of the electorate. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

The campaign against Trump needs to be ongoing…..all I see in my nightmares is a Supreme Court of 7-2. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Is the system sending out notices for events like this one. I only knew about because I check the Planet regularly. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Trump can only frame things that his cultists believe. AdLib 3 hours ago

Yes, email notifications were sent. AdLib 3 hours ago

ad….I dearly hope that you are spot on….. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

hmmmm….I did not get one….in fact I am getting notifications about comments on pages where my articles are appearing but that is it. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

You are? Hmm, maybe they are going to your spam box? AdLib 3 hours ago

Nope. Check that too. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

I have three different emails and I get them at each of them. AdLib 3 hours ago

Not me…..wonder why? MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

I’ll do some checking! AdLib 3 hours ago

Is there something I need to do on my dashboard to allow for them. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Nope, it should be automatic. AdLib 3 hours ago

BTW….are you watching the debate right now. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Biden is being a jerk right now. I guess that’s supposed to make him seem strong? AdLib 3 hours ago

Towards Kamala. AdLib 3 hours ago

Biden is going to look like mansplaining. AdLib 3 hours ago

Yeah. I am watching…..being a jerk or challenging….. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

He needs to get rhetorically slapped, the bullying approach is Trumpesque, I do not respect that. AdLib 3 hours ago

He’s staring away from Kamala! AdLib 3 hours ago

Weird. AdLib 3 hours ago

Biden is going to mention “Obama” and “Obamacare” over and over, he’s hiding behind Obama. AdLib 3 hours ago

I have yet to read a convincing plan that lays out how to finance universal healthcare. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Biden is using his association with Obama in a way that is to be expected. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

I haven’t gone through the economic plans behind all of their plans, I just don’t know the specifics but the general concept works around the world and makes sense. AdLib 3 hours ago

Yes but a man who’s seen as old and frail should stand up by himself, not use Obama as a crutch. It makes him look weaker. AdLib 3 hours ago

Ad…the key is finances…our defense budget sucks the life out of that kind of spending. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Ad…I do not see him as old or frail. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Yes, the finances need to work. But it makes sense that if the whole country is on the same plan, that the risk issue and the negotiating issue wuld be addressed and costs to people should go down. AdLib 3 hours ago

You may not but that is the image that Biden has to fight against taking hold. AdLib 3 hours ago

I hope that these debates get down to a manageable size. “Debates” should be part of the process but have emerged as THE process for far too many. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Biden is 76, he would be 82 at the end of his first term. That’s not young. AdLib 3 hours ago

Bennet and the other mushy middle candidates have nothing to attract voters. AdLib 3 hours ago

Yes…..a well run national program would do as you say but I am waiting for a plan that lays out both the what and the how. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Hey TOCB! AdLib 3 hours ago

I keep looker to those who a record of doing what they are talking about…..and sadly they lack flash. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Who is inspired by candidates championing small increments of improvements. AdLib 3 hours ago

Hey, TOCB….just jump in if you are of a mind to do so or just hang out. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Sorry. I just got back. I was wathcing the debate about which candidate’s healthcare place is better. The bottom line is Democrats want everyone to have access to health care and republicans don’t. TOCB 3 hours ago

Right but Congress doesn’t get big things done often so it’s hard to find Congresspeople who have a track record of getting big things done. AdLib 3 hours ago

Ad…that is true….which makes it hard for me to invest a lot of faith in them. Obama convinced me. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

This attempt by the moderates to smother any big ideas is self-destructive to them and would be for the party if any of them won the nom. AdLib 3 hours ago

No one’s plan is the be all to end all. There will have to be debates and compromises to get there, but the ultimalte goal is universal single payer BECAUSE that is the only way we can cover everyone including pre-existing conditions. TOCB 3 hours ago

Bill Clinton was the one and only conservative/moderate white male Dem nom to win the presidency…and he did so without winning a majority in a three-way race. It is not a formula for success. AdLib 3 hours ago

Yang is a phony. AdLib 3 hours ago

I do not object to any of that in principal…….the devil, the demon, the monster is in the details with cost being the principal point of bedevilment. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Yes, single payer is where it must go but true, sacrifices and compromises will be made. AdLib 3 hours ago

Is Bennet running for the Repub nom? AdLib 3 hours ago

GOAL NUMBER ONE…..Give Trump the Boot….the widest appeal is what is needed…… MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Bennet is drunk ElntheSolutions 3 hours ago

Bennet is drunk? What? MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Or does he always talks slow and slurry? ElntheSolutions 3 hours ago

Heh! Hi EIntheSolutions! AdLib 3 hours ago

Hi there ElntheSolutions 3 hours ago

That is the way he talks on the floor of the Senate. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

There is not much difference among Democrats related to principled policies. We should not allow the sauage making to boog us down. Our challenge is to get Democrats to control Congress and the White Houes and THEN we can move the country forward for ALL people. TOCB 3 hours ago

Really? Biden “fighting” for the status quo? I am supposed to be inspired by that? AdLib 3 hours ago

I guess he’s either always drunk or my bad.

ElntheSolutions 3 hours ago

TOCB…without your point being THE POINT nothing good will come. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Biden has a lot of supporters planted in the audience appaluding everything he says. This is a performance and Reality TV. AdLib 3 hours ago

I LOVE all of these guys and girls. TOCB 3 hours ago

Ad…how do you know that? MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

TOCB – But this is a Reality Show, Biden needed to be high energy and “strong” so he needs to throw elbows at everyone. Those in the lower tier need to throw elbows to get thie numbers up or this will be their last debate. This is not the most honest debate. AdLib 3 hours ago

Now immigration. No one supports open borders, or decriminalizing the border. We only want to decriminalize seeking assylum. TOCB 3 hours ago

Is it asylum seeking that would be decriminalized ElntheSolutions 3 hours ago

Or anybody coming across? ElntheSolutions 3 hours ago

Murph – Because that’s what’s happened in many debates along the way, some candidates planting their people to cheer. It’s far from unusual. AdLib 3 hours ago

It becomes more noticeable when applause and enthusiastic cheers seem unwarranted. AdLib 3 hours ago

AdLib, I think the fault is the format of the debate. It is designed to be entertaining as opposed to informative. TOCB 3 hours ago

Ad…..good summary of why I regard these debates as a rather weak foundation upon which to make candidate selections. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Bennet has a very plaintive tone, not something that reflects well. AdLib 3 hours ago

I suspect that there are crowds in the audience that are supportive of a several on the stage. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

TOCB – Yes, it’s clear that the CNN moderators are trying to pit candidates against each other to get the “fireworks” that lead to higher ratings and ad sales profits. AdLib 3 hours ago

Gillibrand is naming the reality better than anyone so far. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

ad….agreed. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

True Murph. The best idea I’ve heard for debates is for moderators to back off and let the candidates get into debating among each other. This cutting off people is awful. AdLib 3 hours ago

Hecklers in the audience saying what? MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Yes, Gillibrand’s best performance so far. AdLib 3 hours ago

Ad…and that cannot happen with a stage that is this big. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Whoops…Biden had a brain fart on Castro’s name. AdLib 3 hours ago

Biden did not represent the immigration law well at all…. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

What were the protesters chanting? AdLib 3 hours ago

“3 million…”? AdLib 3 hours ago

The way Biden stops talking abruptly when the mod interruts looks weird. AdLib 3 hours ago

It appears that most things presidential candidates “promise” anyway, they can’t do but rather it takes Congress to enact laws. Presidents can champion causes and use executive orders in some cases. TOCB 3 hours ago

Ad….I agree. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Castro went there! Biden hasn’t learned from the past. AdLib 3 hours ago

TOCB…and sadly far too few voters factor that in….they simply do not understand how it works. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

TOCB – Yes, I think a campaign needs to be about vision while recognizing that it’s not the same as accomplishing everything in that vision. It represents the sensibilities of the candidate, that’s what it’s really about. AdLib 3 hours ago

I really like Booker….I really do….and I admire him. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Yang naied it on automation replacing workers, not immigrants. AdLib 3 hours ago

I do not understand Yang’s motivation…but he does have strengths. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Biden is using boiler plate to fill in the blanks MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Booker is doing a good job blowing up Biden’s GOP talking points on not making it criminal to cross the border. And Biden is a fool for claiming the problem is solved when Trump is voted out because the next Repub president could use the criminality as Trump is doing to torture families in the future. AdLib 3 hours ago

Ad – agreed. I would like to see the candidates state their positions without challening the positions of others. Let the voters decide which position(s) we prefer. Democrats should be running against the republican party, ALL republicans. Not just trump. TOCB 3 hours ago

Yang doesn’t have a prayer and is way too quirky to be a serious candidate but he made a good point. AdLib 3 hours ago

Biden won’t answer the question about all the deportations under him and Obama. AdLib 3 hours ago

Biden acts like a Republican. AdLib 3 hours ago

Yang is the only one addressing the fast approaching problem of robots and AI replacing human workers. You have to give him that. TOCB 3 hours ago

TOCB – Yes, even if it was messier, we’d get to see a much truer version of the candidates when they have to ask and answer questions coming from all directions. AdLib 3 hours ago

I do credit Yang with that, TOCB, he does do a great job and explaining that robots, not immigrants are taking manufacturing jobs away. AdLib 3 hours ago

Biden is playing dodgeball…I see that as cowardly. AdLib 3 hours ago

They are beginning to gang up on Biden and Biden is getting a bit…upset. AdLib 3 hours ago

Biden has the most exposure because he has the largest, longest and most expansive record….it is easy to target him I fear. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Since Biden is leading in the polls, all he has to do is not screw up. Others have to convice voters that they can beat trump. For some reason people seem to think that only an old white male can beat an old white male. Nothing against white males, BUT it is time for a change at the top. TOCB 3 hours ago

Another thing about Biden that has always been difficult….he isn’t witty…..he isn’t rhetorically quick AND that is necessary to defeat Trump. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Biden is exemplifying one of the factors that contributed to Hillary losing in 2016, not being immediately forthright about truths he doesn’t want to admit. It affects trust and enthusiasm. He refused to answer the question about his support for the many immigrants Obama deported. AdLib 3 hours ago

Murph – Yes, Biden, Like Hillary, has decades of baggage that rightly or wrongly, can be exploited by Trump. I think Biden would be the wrong choice but if he won, I will vote for him…but worry that we will lose. AdLib 3 hours ago

Ad – I trust all of the Democrats, but only one of them can be the nominee. I can find fault with all of them but any one of them will be better than any republican. TOCB 3 hours ago

But notice how every question is saying “That candidate says your idea on this issue is bad, what do you want to say to him?” Screw CNN, we don’t need mudslinging, we need a debate on issues. AdLib 3 hours ago

Agree with both of your points. The problem with his admitting to error is that such admissions will be exploited too. No win. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

TOCB – No question, any of the Dems would be fantastic in place of Trump. Even so, a flawed candidate may be more likely to lose and help Trump be re-elected. Joe is an old school pol who makes a lot of misstatements and has a lot of baggage. I think that represents greater risk than someone who doesn’t have those issues. AdLib 3 hours ago

I do think we, Democrats, have to stop worrying about what republican voters think. They are not going to vote for a Democrat anyway. We should go after people who are not participating in the democratic process. There are more people in this country who align with the values of the Democrtic Party than with republicans, on every issue. TOCB 3 hours ago

Ad….I regard the questioning by CNN to be very heavy handed….. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

I think Booker is dodging now. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Ad – I don’t get the attraction to Biden. His approach to problem solving seems to be outdated. TOCB 2 hours ago

TOCB – Agreed! It was absurd to see Claire McCaskill blathering on MSNBC last night that only the moderates can win because they appeal to Trump voters…this from someone who lost her seat in a Blue Wave year because she tried that flawed strategy herself. AdLib 2 hours ago

Notice how CNN is letting this run long…DRAMA!!! MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Murph – Yes, this is Reality TV, CNN’s mods are asking questions written to incite conflict. This is entertainment, not serious discussions on issues. AdLib 2 hours ago

Ad…..Claire lost for many reasons…one being the poor turnout in the black and hispanic community here…..in part because she was trying to draw in some votes from Trump territory. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Booker is dodging, he has more in common with Biden than one would think. Both are corporate, pro-Wall Street Dems. AdLib 2 hours ago

I guess this format is the best that can be done with so many candidates. What if there was one moderator whose job was just to keep the discussion flowing and watch the time? TOCB 2 hours ago

Murph – Yep, we discussed it back then. You explained that instead of her pursuing Dem voters including minorities, she chased after Trump voters. And she learned nothing from her loss, advocating the Dem party to use the same losing strategy she used. AdLib 2 hours ago

Biden hiding behind Obama again! AdLib 2 hours ago

Hi….anyway, Trump is doing a great job of increasing the Black turn out. Jake321 2 hours ago

TOCB – Yes, that was what I was thinking too. Just a traffic cop, let them interface with each other and debate. AdLib 2 hours ago

Ad – that is it. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Criminal justice is another area where they all agree. I also supported the 1994 crime bill in 1994. The focus should be on fixing mass incarceration and an unjust justice system rather than why a bill was passed 30 years ago. TOCB 2 hours ago

Hey Jake…. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Rehashing the busing conflict between Biden and Harris. Not good for Biden but he should be prepared to push back. AdLib 2 hours ago

I agree Jake321. TOCB 2 hours ago

Well, the Biden Obama connection sure seems to be helping Biden with Black support. Jake321 2 hours ago

TOCB – I think Biden could have put it behind him if he had just admitted that the Crime Bill was a bad decision but many supported it not realizing the harm it would cause. They were wrong, not evil. But Biden refuses to apologize. AdLib 2 hours ago

I don’t believe 53% of black voters support Biden. I have not talked with a single black person who supports Biden. Most black people I talk with prefer Warren. TOCB 2 hours ago

Ad……I suspect you are right…..that would be clearer….many took the same position. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

So Biden’s response was to attack Harris when she was an AG but he insists that mentioning his past decisions are not as relevant. AdLib 2 hours ago

He is pushing back and anyway the hits Harris took against Biden evaporated in about two weeks and actually increased Biden’s lead over Harris and Booker in many polls, I believe. Jake321 2 hours ago

Harris is vulnerable on some things she did as AG…including not prosecuting Mnuchin for crimes he was proven to have committed…and accepting campaign contributions from him. AdLib 2 hours ago

Biden has a friend from Hawaii. Jake321 2 hours ago

A word about busing……I was in the middle of it….and every reformer was all for it…..and the result was generally a disaster…… MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Gabbard is insincere and manipulative…as well as the RW’s favorite candidate to promote. AdLib 2 hours ago

Always better to be a public defender in the Dem Primaries than a prosecutor. Jake321 2 hours ago

Who supports forced busing anymore? Jake321 2 hours ago

Murph – I had busing at our school and it did not work well for the school and especially for the students spending hours every day on a bus and being far from home. But it was seen as an answer to segregation back then…except by Biden. AdLib 2 hours ago

Actually, she seems often like the Dem candidate from the Kremlin. Matters not, she just helped Biden quite a lot. Jake321 2 hours ago

Jake – I don’t think anyone supports busing nowadays, it was a mistaken policy that had good intentions but was destructive. AdLib 2 hours ago

Hey PPO! AdLib 2 hours ago

hi all…. just listening now pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Yep, that’s my point and why Harris and any others bringing it up is useless. Jake321 2 hours ago

I was bussed throughout grade school. When we integrated I stopped being bussed to an all black school and was bussed to an integrated school. Many urban schools are still mostly segregate today. I don’t know that busing would fix it. TOCB 2 hours ago

Jake – Russia and the RW Repubs see Gabbard as a great chaos candidate in the Dem primary and are strongly supporting her. AdLib 2 hours ago

Jake – Her point on Biden’s opposition to busing is that he did not stand up to try and solve segregation. That’s why it mattered. AdLib 2 hours ago

Yep, been following this on Far Right Russian sites and Alt Right sites. But she also often spouts policies that I seen from the Young Turks in Congress and Bernie supporters. Jake321 2 hours ago

I think Biden got in trouble for bragging about working with segregationists. Many Democrats in the 60s had to evolve from segregation. It was accepted by MOST white people in those days. TOCB 2 hours ago

On busing, Those who I think might be most concerned din’t seem to care and mostly support Biden over Harris. Jake321 2 hours ago

TOCB – I don’t think busing students out of their neighborhoods is how to desegregate. It’s not an easy fix with a short term solution. The communities that are poorer need to be supported with building up their economic strength so that there is voluntary desegregation, people move into communities that are thriving and well managed. Economics and economic justice are the path to desegregation. AdLib 2 hours ago

Jake – Bernie is Gabbard’s mentor though I don’t see him as the kind of Russian/RW pawn Gabbard is. AdLib 2 hours ago

Inslee sounds weak compared to the others pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Ad – I think that might be an ideal solution but it is very slow and so far it has been ineffective. TOCB 2 hours ago

why all the interruptions? Way too little time for Cands. to respond pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

TOCB – This is what I mean by Biden digging holes for himself. Had he nt been bragging about working with segregationalists to support his phony claim that Repubs will suddenly start working with him after Trump is defeated. He’s denying Obama’s entire presidency. AdLib 2 hours ago

Inslee’s primary issue is climate change. Again, something all Democrats support. TOCB 2 hours ago

But even sooner, public charter schools that improve educational results are a great way to go. All top public high schools here in Iakland that are most all Hispanic and Black are the best schools in the city, better than most all the schools in the top lily White states. Jake321 2 hours ago

Ad….your ideas re. busing….are spot on…..an easy solution that shattered neighborhoods….and made big money for realtors….and more. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

TOCB – Yes, it is slow but it is the actual cause for creating segregation. Poor communities have poor schools and worse outcomes. Rebuilding the economies in poor neighborhoods is the only way out. AdLib 2 hours ago

Appreciate Inslee hammering Biden on addressing Climate Change now. AdLib 2 hours ago

Natural gas and the market economy has done way more to reduce coal and deadly pollution as well as CO2 than all the highly subsidized alternatives combined. Jake321 2 hours ago

TOCB- Biden’s cooperation with segregationists was something that many Dems could be “faulted for” except it was their votes that made much of the democratic platform possible. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

As someone who lived through Jim Crow, it was important for people to begin to interact with each other, so that white people who learn that they were not superior to others. The fastest way to do that in the 60s and 70s was busing. It may not have been the best way, but it depends on what the immediate goal was. TOCB 2 hours ago

PPO – CNN only cares about ratings so they cut off the candidates. We WANT to hear from them, not Twitter length quips. AdLib 2 hours ago

BRB AdLib 2 hours ago

shhesh! pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Now the green new deal. It is a vision, not a policy. It is aspirational. TOCB 2 hours ago

TOCB……in Chicago…busing created white flight….and it happened very quickly with the assistance of banks and realtors in redlining….not much mingling as a result. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

De Blustero didn’t score, did he? pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

The wife. The BOSS calls. Gotta go. Enjoyed guys. Take care. TOCB 2 hours ago

Bye TOCB…so good to have you here. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

I am back….what has happened…..winding down I presume. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Bye bye, dinner time… Jake321 2 hours ago

Sorry, I’m not energized by this debate – must have missed the red meat bit. pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

cheerio, folks pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

I just caught up on Jay Inslee’s impassioned plea for bold action NOW on the environment. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Biden is coming off stronger tonight for what’s thats worth. No any big missteps that I have seen so far. AdLib 2 hours ago

Biden did well…but your concerns are also mine….who else did well? MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Harris had good moments and bad moments. Booker was fine I just don’t that’s unless a front runner stumbbles that anyone’s else can rise AdLib 2 hours ago

I read it the same way. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Despite poles I thinks biden is the most vulnerable candidate for Dems AdLib 2 hours ago

Could be….. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

I presume you are looking to a time when he is on state with Trump…..too old men, but Trump is tougher in your estimation and will go, more successfully, for the jugular. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Well time to close it down. Best to you. Good luck with Ray. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Yes but also Biden often digs verbal holes for himself to fallback into and TRump never suffered from that but Biden will AdLib 2 hours ago

Biden is being evasive again on his anti working women AdLib 2 hours ago

Very late to the party tonight, but just wondering what folks are thinking about Part II tonight. kesmarn 2 hours ago

Good to see you Kes AdLib an hour ago

Likewise, AdLib! What are your thoughts so far…? kesmarn an hour ago

I’ve been watching (while doing housework… heh… unpaid, Mr. Yang…) and it doesn’t seem that tonight has changed much. kesmarn an hour ago

You get $1,000! And you get $1,000! AdLib an hour ago

Who doesn’t love free money…LOL!? kesmarn an hour ago

He keeps pushing that bribe in nearly every response. AdLib an hour ago

A one plank platform, apparently? kesmarn an hour ago

One grand platform? AdLib an hour ago

A one grand grandstand? kesmarn an hour ago

One grand stand? AdLib an hour ago

Hah! kesmarn an hour ago

Biden is slippery, not what I want to see in the Dem nom. AdLib an hour ago

I’m almost feeling sorry for Joe. He’s been the human punching bag for so many this evening. But I don’t think he’s the guy to beat Trump — no matter what the polls say. kesmarn an hour ago

And he’s too much of a centrist for me personally. kesmarn an hour ago

Biden is so rehearsed and classic old school pol in his evasiveness. AdLib an hour ago

Centrist and corporatist who opposes real change. AdLib an hour ago

Yes. And how many times can you say: “That was a long time ago.”? kesmarn an hour ago

That won’t stop Trump Andy the Russian bots from hammering him on all of that. AdLib an hour ago

and AdLib an hour ago

DeBlasio arguing against impeachment. Not a good method for getting votes. AdLib an hour ago

Bennett is a tool. A coward standing against impeachment. AdLib an hour ago

No, that’s the thing about having video documentation of almost everything you’ve ever said. Oh — and now Julian Castro is making a pretty darn good argument for going ahead with impeachment. kesmarn an hour ago

Yes, Castro has been solid in the debate. Biden’s pushing so hard. AdLib an hour ago

Moscow Mitch! AdLib an hour ago

I think Castro may have benefited the most from the evening> kesmarn an hour ago

Heh… I’ve heard that Moscow Mitch really hates that nickname. So happy to know that. kesmarn an hour ago

Good call. I think so. Kamala was hammered hard by Gabbarf though and she didn’t have a great defense. I think Harris’s May have lost momentum tonight. Biden support probably won’t grow but I think he holds what he had coming in. AdLib an hour ago

Kirsten Gillebrand has seemed pretty befuddled for most of the evening. When you start several comments with “Ummmm….ummmmm…” you’re in trouble. kesmarn an hour ago

So the net result from the two debates? Nothing really changes. AdLib an hour ago

And yes — Kamala Harris did a poor job of arguing against Gabbard’s facts. kesmarn an hour ago

Yes, she started of fun better then kept stalling when it was time to speak. Being too careful can hurt you too. AdLib an hour ago

I think Harris may have peaked already. kesmarn an hour ago

Indeed. I think it could have hurt Harris but I don’t think any of the lower rung candidates will benefit from that. AdLib an hour ago

Yes, I think you’re right…and I think that could AdLib an hour ago

Inslee always seems like he’s indulged in some of that WA legal weed. kesmarn an hour ago

Yes and I think it could benefit multiple candidates AdLib an hour ago

Heh! Insure should come out pro-stoner. It’s a wide open path! AdLib an hour ago

Let’s see — who’s still looking viable? Biden, Warren, Sanders, maybe Castro, Buttigieg. Booker seems borderline… kesmarn an hour ago

At least most of these people will Ben gone by the next debate. AdLib an hour ago

Yes. I think Gillebrand, Yang, Williamson, Inslee, Bullock, and Bennet may be in their final days. kesmarn an hour ago

I think the top tier is Biden, Warren, Sanders and Harris. The rest may hang around for a littleness or more time but hard to see any of them beating the top 4, even infield Harris loses momentum. AdLib an hour ago

Right. Oh and I think Klobuchar is almost done too. kesmarn an hour ago

Yes, along with Ryan, Elmer Fudd and probably Gabbard. AdLib an hour ago

Agreed. kesmarn an hour ago

Yes, Klobuchar is toast. AdLib an hour ago

Yang isn’t too bad on discerning problems, it’s just that he has only one solution to all of them. kesmarn an hour ago

I like Castro, he may have a shot at Harris’s spot but I don’t think he rises higher than that. AdLib an hour ago

He’d make a great veep with plans for the future. kesmarn an hour ago

One take away from these two evenings is that I am truly determined to get up to Detroit and see the interior of the Fox Theatre where they’re debating. kesmarn an hour ago

It’s only a little over 60 miles away. kesmarn an hour ago

Yang just lied, he’s not ranked 4th. And attacked candidates reciting memorized speeches while reciting a memorized speech. AdLib an hour ago

This is totally superficial and unfair, but Harris’s nasal Yiddish Auntie voice quality kinda gets to me. Not fair, but there it is. kesmarn an hour ago

Heh! At least something good came out of the debates! For tourism! AdLib an hour ago

Yeah… what polls have Yang ranked 4th? “Gamers Unlimited Magazine”? kesmarn an hour ago

Gosh Joe… there’s no way we can have 8 MORE years of Donald Trump. kesmarn an hour ago

It’s fair to say because voice tonal quality is a big factor in popularity. I think Bernie’s yelling limits his appeal, Bennet’s whinyness hurts him, etc. AdLib an hour ago

Yes, and I have to confess, Hillary’s voice was a negative for her as well. kesmarn an hour ago

Heh! Gamers unlimited – Dem Primary edition. AdLib an hour ago

That’s the poll to watch! Move over Nate Silver! kesmarn an hour ago

Same here. Biden’s voice Ian a little weak but hasn’t become more contrived and phony. AdLib an hour ago

Has! I hate spellcheck! AdLib an hour ago

No, you’re right. Biden is pretty “listenable.” kesmarn an hour ago

One analyst on CNN is saying: “The big winner tonight is Elizabeth Warren.” kesmarn an hour ago

They’re also saying Harris was probably damaged by Gabbard’s attack on her prosecutorial record. kesmarn an hour ago

Yes but he hasn’t become less open and more evasive, hiding behind old school political blather. AdLib an hour ago

We’re too damn smart! AdLib an hour ago

No doubt about that!

kesmarn an hour ago

I think Warren does benefit as Harris’s falls. AdLib an hour ago

Yes, she seems to have a sincere charisma that is growing rather than lessening. kesmarn an hour ago

Indeed! AdLib an hour ago

Well, once again, 11 p.m. here in the heartland. So I’d better sign off. It’s been an interesting two nights. Fun. kesmarn an hour ago

Yes it has! Sleep well! AdLib an hour ago

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