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I’ve never really watched Jimmy Kimmel but he was on fire tonight, destroying MTG over the back and forth they had today then following it up with an excellent piece applying Hannity’s attacks on Biden to Trump, really well done. Here’s the video starting with the Hannity/Trump part but you can scan back and watch Kimmel just crush MTG too.

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Okay…this photo from the Trump rally incredibly says everything about Trump and his followers that people have used thousands of words to try and describe.

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Nazi, Trump as Jesus’ 2nd Coming, Christian/fascist cult leader, confederate flag, no concern about publicly displaying any of this.

Seems little difference between Russians marching goose step behind war criminal Putin (though many are not) and Republicans.

If Repubs win back power, be prepared, this will be unleashed around the country and backed and motivated by the GOP.

Unless Dems keep Congress and add 2 net seats in The Senate this year and can fix the anti-democracy laws in too many states, we may be on a collision course with a long battle against America as an aggressively fascist state.

Khirad
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There is no way I could make this up. Look at the flag.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novorossiya_(confederation)

Khirad
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My outrage is kinda fatalistic. Of course – but, I’m … I used to laugh during the Bush years saying – let them all win and turn the country to shit and then…

Well… I kinda just hate humans. They wallow in shit and they love it. No offence to pigs.

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Mississippi is almost 40% African American. Now, I’m not saying to take black votes for granted, and I’m not saying there’s not a legacy of Jim Crow and voter suppression… but there’s also: our vote don’t matter learned helplessness bullshit that I as a white person can’t address but bewilders me. I mean, shit, vote Republican, just vote.

We’ve seen it with Latino voting – it is mixed, but the people it affects the most don’t get out.

Even as a young person, which I’m not anymore so much I was so pissed off with the complaining. I would say did you vote? No, who cares? Fuck you and STFU. If only students had their own AARP.

And all my life for 20+ years I’ve voted by mail. Got it in the mail, sent it back. Checked the secretary of state’s registrar webpage to see my vote counted.

I’ve only voted in two states: Washington and Arizona. They could not be more different except they are both not Eastern states. Yes, I said it. I’ve been to the East, and it’s … very slow to adapt to some modern things.

Khirad
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You are banned for hate speech because algorithm.

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New sci-fi series, “Facebook AI Becomes a Person”.

Khirad
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As I’ve said before, I’m not scared of the Robots, let alone the whole engineering department at MIT ever getting my sarcasm.

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Sarcasm and humor are a foreign language to algorithms and AI that can be poorly imitated but never properly integrated into them.

I remember seeing AI generated “jokes”, they were more banal and insane than funny.

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Ooh, I want Rosie the Robot saying them.

Also not the future Star Trek House but I was on a bit of a Katy Stoll … well … because reasons (and I love Some More News) – I guess this fits

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Did you see the AI created Batman script? Now that’s robotic entertainment!

Khirad
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Also, there is a liberal opposition to Orbán in Hungary. In this case, the liberal is amorphous – and basically just not Iron Guard I guess? Plus, she’s hot. And yes, I am that shallow but not enough to learn Hungarian.

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They’ve got their work cut out for them as does the rest of the free world:

“ Viktor Orban calls Zelensky an ‘opponent’ after winning Hungary election”

https://apple.news/AV6NnJTpNRaGZA0_dsiemoA

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Chris rock was the better one.

What a slap though…

If I were pissed about something I’d knock the fucker out. Scottish martial arts.

This was staged.

Time stamp me.

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Chris Rock took one for The Academy. He could have walked off, shouted obscenities, hey, he could have ducked, tried to block the slap and/or tried to hit back. But Rock held his hands behind himself and just took it.

That is one strong man who cared about bigger things and his responsibility.

Will Smith is a coward, an elitist who sees himself as entitled to do whatever the hell he wants to do and that perception of him is solidified with each passing day.

The regrettable people who tried to justify his criminal battery, claiming Jada had a disability (WTF? Alopecia is not a disability, how does it prevent her from any typical human activity? It is an unfortunate condition affecting hair growth with the identical symptoms as male-pattern baldness…so now everyone who’s bald gets to use the Diamond Lane?) and Smith was “defending” her?

He was laughing until he met her eyes and she shot lasers at him. And this coward who was afraid of how pissed his wife was at him, went up and attacked a comedian for telling a joke about her. Whether Rock should have made that joke is up for discussion, it’s easy to make a joke about someone’s appearance and can be cruel but comics do that all the time.

This was 100% real, it was not staged. All you have to do is look at Smith’s acceptance speech, he was hysterical and out of his mind. And check the footage that wasn’t broadcast of Rock in shock and trying to recover.

I don’t blame you for thinking that though, it’s so unbelievable that it happened, at the time even people there thought it was staged. But when Smith followed it up with maniacally screaming, in the midst of The Oscar telecast, “Keep my wife’s name out of your fuckin’ mouth!”, it was clear that it was real and Smith was deranged.

A lot of people don’t know how fucked up many performers are, they only know them from how they appear in their movies, concerts, etc.. But so many are neurotic, hyper-insecure and just plain fucked up. Smith has been a Scientologist, is in an open marriage and was so intimidated by his wife’s facial expression that he hit another celebrity in front of tens of millions of people at the biggest show business event.

Will Smith is a messed-up human being and should always be remembered as that and not as anyone who should be respected or revered.

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I did think it was staged because it was the first I heard about the Oscars in hmmmm running out fingers, I guess my toes? Maybe? In not the first time, but the most exciting that circle jerk ever was after Mid-Atlantic speech faded.

And hey, don’t talk about fucked up performers. 75% of us are. It’s just the ones who looney-toons beyond eccentric so far up their own ass… I mean, I don’t even think he was on anything?!

That’s what freaks me out. Confidence – I wish I had half of his… but, how many people have run over like a sociopath. It’s not just the playa it’s not just the game in Philly. It’s a system. A toxic system.

I’ve never looked up to any sports star or actor or singer. I mean, I liked Kurt Cobain, but didn’t look up to him. I related, and he hated it. No reason for any of that, but my point is I respect those that work their craft, and don’t give a shit for the glitz.

And if you show up, like Ricky Gervais said: thank your god, and fuck off. We don’t need to hear your speech. It’s such an easy foil for conservatives when even I think it’s preachy and inappropriate. It’s its own ossified pantomime to be for something.

Like there are those that are for something and they do that something. Shout out is cool. Don’t take us through the whole process – we can find the making of later.

Shame was, I was kinda one of those into the editors and sound and stuff. But, even I don’t need to see that. We could make this an 1:30 even hour show. And there will still be the red carpet… I loved it – I forget what awards show – but when South Park’s Trey Parker and Matt Stone were balls deep on acid and in a J-Lo dress.

How dare you besmirch the sanctity of the holy institution!!!

Nope, I was right there with them. If I want to see anything, it’s the orgies after. That’s a show.

Anyhow. Fuck Conservatives. We hate it too. Come up with zombie Teddy-Ruxpin singing Ozzy backwards or something. I mean, that sounds pretty fresh for the FOX mind. Just like yesterday with those jail pail kids. And yes, I voted safely for Nader in Washington against Gore because fucking Tipper hating the kids music and putting labels on them which automatically made everyone want them. Genius!

Anyway, best takedown and he’s never living this down:

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Indeed, it was so surreal, it made sense to first believe it was staged. But having a little time to think about it, clearly, having assault and battery at the Oscars, which is aimed to promote the film industry to the world, is not a helpful incident for The Academy. That said, some of the scripted jokes could also be charged with assault.

I make the point about actors having issues because so many people see them as superior and powerfully confident people because they only see them in their fictional roles as heroes of one kind or another. Most actors are not anything like the characters they’re known for and the dichotomy is pretty fascinating.

I’d argue that Smith did not exhibit confidence but as you say, the confidence to do something very wrong can be the result more often of delusional or sociopathic thinking than confidence. I didn’t see Smith as confident when he did that, I saw a very insecure man who was shamed once he saw he was laughing while his wife was furious and act in the self-entitled, elitist way he’s grown accustomed to. He felt he had the right to trash the entire Oscars, criminally assault a comedian who was hired to tell jokes and get away with it all because as a wealthy actor, he was entitled to do whatever he wanted and screw anyone and everyone else. To me, that is not a confident man, that is an insecure narcissist and elitist.

When I was younger, I definitely looked up to remarkable social and political figures as well as artists. I don’t think anything is wrong with that, many deserve respect and their example to a “fan” can be inspirational in their pursuit of their career and the way they live their life. But once you discover an idol to have clay feet, you recognize that like everyone else, even they are imperfect and flawed human beings and in some cases, their true personality is undeserving of respect. I don’t think slavish worship of anyone else is a good thing but in some cases, when a person hasn’t done something severely awful, you can separate appreciation for someone’s work from who they are. In Smith’s case though, trashing one of the few institutional events that hadn’t yet been trashed by nasty entitlement types like him and committing a violent attack on someone exercising free speech, disqualifies Smith in my book, I have no interest in watching anything he’s ever in again.

Agree with Gervais’ sentiment too but believing in free expression, the winners can say whatever they want though long lectures about life, the world or politics that are over the top deserve the ridicule they get.

I think all the winners, especially the less appreciated tech folks, deserve their moment. Many are smart enough to know they should just thank their spouses and such but it is a tv show and in the end, it’s about getting ratings and entertaining. Not life or death to me how they do it but maybe a better way could be conceived that doesn’t relegate more and more winners to the short bus.

That comic in the video is pretty raw, some of his jokes are very funny, some are harsh but like most people, I just shrug at the ones I think go too far. Insult comedy can be very clever and can be just mean spirited. But after Smith’s attack on Rock, I think most comics want to punch back against Smith…with wit and jokes, that is. So even insult comics reflect principles that the entitled Smith doesn’t.

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Here’s my my thing. The Oscars are irrelevant. Period. I don’t know the demos, but…I care more about Rotton Tomatos really. And the Oscars have gotten it wrong so many times.

And yes winners can say what they want, and I’ve enjoyed some that were succinct and heartfelt. But assume Jon Voigt won something and went off?

And yes, by confidence I met bullyness. Because every bully is deeply insecure but good at acting … I hope we meet one day – I’m not an actor. I am who I am. Innefectually authentic at life.

I can do roast comedy in bits. It’s not my go to, and that guy could be a prick, but they had it coming. Like, the Comedy scene has done their thing. It will die down tomorrow, it’s not the biggest deal.

I would just suggest, and you will disagree eloquently, that award shows are bullshit. I don’t know anyone under 40 that gives a shit.

If anything the slap was a denouément; a coups de grâce; fittingly, to an already stale, empty and dead ritual.

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All award shows are irrelevant, including The Oscars, Emmys, etc. They are primarily just marketing and promotion events. Films that won Oscars get lots of publicity and bring in more money. Same thing with Grammys. And as I mentioned, they’re also self-promotional for that industry, to market their image and their top attractions.

So no, they never “mattered” to the majority of people in the world. One could argue that Entertainment doesn’t matter but of course, it can enrich life or just waste time, depending.

As for how the Oscars pick films, there are many factors that go into which films win. Often, Academy members are primarily looking at what film gives the best image of the business to the public. Films about regular people beating the odds, overcoming adversity, dealing with difficult illnesses, physical and mental issues or are about important social issues are always the front runners. It’s all about symbolism, films that represent the movie business as noble.

And you are absolutely right about younger people not caring about awards shows the way older people have made it a tradition. That’s why the Oscars keep trying to remake their show, to appeal to younger people, this year they brought in Packer to give it a twist that might attract younger people.

The flip side and perhaps the explanation is that many younger people, you and many others excluded, don’t have any literacy about the past in many areas including art, music, film, US and world history, etc. Understandable, there is so much entertainment today that is contemporary but in previous generations, there wasn’t so much and art/music/films/tv from the past were part of young people’s entertainment diet.

So there isn’t as much reverence for film history and the institutions that represent film past and present among younger people. Add to that the corporate takeover of the entertainment industry which has strangled creativity and diversity in films (almost all films in theaters are now based on comic books, books, other films, etc. and aimed to appeal to teenagers and China, all of this makes bottom line sense to corporate bosses).

So people who were inspired by edgy and unique films in previous decades number far less because films and tv are so derivative and clinically manufactured today.

All that said, to those who actually are fans of film as art, creativity, humanity, and social influence (and escapist entertainment too), the slap was a real kick in the balls that denigrated one of the last bastions of film and the Oscars as a representation of art being something that matters and deserves respect.

Now, it’s just a punchline. Literally.

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That’s the AdLib I know. John Waters was in decline with Cecil B. Demented. And I grew up with my mom watching Cary Grant and such. And my film teacher followed me out of class to tell me his thoughts on the Seventh Seal. Because I was a Senior in High School, but even though an easy A, I actually took it seriously. I mean, we watched Mel Brooks so not that seriously, but yeah. I kinda get it.

Also, the Cabinet of Dr Caligari is expressionistically cursèd!

It needed a kick in the balls. It sucks. I’ll buy you a tiara. We’re going to agree to disagree. And, that’s okay. I mean, Oscars you do your thing. I’m not cancelling them. It will … I wasn’t supposed to be here today – always suck my balls. Or, Les Quatre Cents Coups.

If I want trash,

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Have a soft spot in my heart for Cecil B. Demented, has its flaws but so clever and fun.

I saw Seventh Seal in High School as well. I tried to really get into Bergman but remained kind of an outsider, appreciating the mind behind his films but feeling distanced from them.

Cary Grant though, what a natural. North by Northwest may be my favorite role of his but so many great films and roles for him.

Big fan of Mel Brooks, The Producers was truly biting about the entertainment industry. Accidentally saw his first film, The Twelve Chairs and didn’t realize until later that Brooks directed it.

The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari, a classic and remarkably edgy film for its time. The suspense and horror films of that era were so well done while having to shoot on shoestring budgets. And was always a fan of the gangster films too, Robinson and Cagney especially, some amazing Art Deco/Film Noir visuals in them.

I don’t know that the Oscars needed physical assault as a kick in the balls. A better one would have been a filmmaker brave enough to use their acceptance speech to hammer Hollywood for squeezing the soul out of feature films due to the greed and narrow-mindedness of the corporations that own it and noting that celebrating one night to promote its image as caring is a whitewash of what the majority of the film business is, how exploitive it can be and how shallow and lowest-common-denominator it is.

Of course, anyone who did that would be famous for a while but they would have their career blown up.

But that dose of reality would have been an effective and constructive kick in the balls.

Otherwise, I just saw this assault and battery in the middle of the biggest traditional movie event as further spread of the denigration of decency and respect for institutions. Right in line with every other American institution being debased and brought down to the gutter.

On the most serious side, the 1/6 scheme to overthrow our democracy, the conversion of the SCOTUS to a theocratic dictatorship, the transformation of the GOP into a mirror of Putin and his totalitarianism.

So this is not a critical loss in terms of the everyday lives of people but IMO, it continues to validate that society is deteriorating and that the elite are becoming more and more self-justifying at tearing down the norms of society we’ve taken for granted as long as it leads to their immediate or long term gratification.

Not news, elitists have always been like this but the brazenness and rampant nature of this sensibility should concern every one of us as the GOP moves forward to retake power for the last time in perhaps our lifetimes.

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Good breakdown of Carlson. RWs have no sense of irony, listening to the elite and privileged heir to the Swanson’s fortune act bitch about how ignorant, white supremacists are so much smarter and superior to the elite…especially to those who are PoC and achieve remarkable things.

If only they were born with a frozen food silver spoon in their mouths, they could have been a downtrodden, average white guy like him.

But at least he’s white enough to be the decider on which black people are legitimately black.

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I’ll figure this out I swear… are we embedding like it’s 1999? ?

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Heh! Nope, it’s an anti-spamming precaution, spam comments often include a bunch of links.

How much do I have to pay not to hear Bari Weiss read bad poetry?

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Just separating the links so they’ll embed:

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Imagine this, in my Rod Serling voice:

September 11th, 2001 – the planes strike the towers.

PlanetPov community….

yeah… give us a few days or a couple weeks before we react. We’re not sure how to feel about it all yet.

And yet I’m suppsed to give up Facebook…

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Well…it’s not like Planet folk are intentionally tardy about replying, more like the legalizing of marijuana has some unforeseen blowback. Yes I said that.

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Sure, use one of my favorite of bands to guilt me! Actually, it does soften the blow.

I will always reply to comments, have faith. Sometimes The Fates conspire though to delay me. Bastards! Haven’t they got anything better to do? Like helping Putin fall out a window?

Khirad
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Make me a person of import, but, yeah… I can get emotional.

AdLib
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As can we all.

Khirad
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Zelensky’s speech to the UK Parliament
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAdUXFoLJYQ

Zelensky’s speech to the Canadian Parliament
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGHFvfBThUY

Zelensky’s speech to US Congress
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-q8O0pvvGKU

Zelensky’s speech to the EU Parliament
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVvkdwksxMw&t=52s

With but few fringe exceptions – I was literally brought to tears how for once political parties in most cases were unified … not to say I’m kumbaya – but that for once, in this moment, Putin has unified us all — against HIM.

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Okay, you have to click to watch this because the video in it that Zelensky displays images of dead Ukranians in it to show the world what is going on. I am anti-censorship but I appreciate adding this step so people who don’t know how intense the video is are warned without the video being censored.

Khirad
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No, I don’t get that. They stopped reporting from Vietnam and even stopped caskets from being broadcast. This is why I’m goth… sometimes people need to see. I hurts me too. That is the point. You’re supposed to be upset.

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Well…this is not quite the same, it’s not covering up the existence of terrible truths, it only takes one more little click to see very explicit video that could be too much for very young kids to see, which is who the warning is trying to protect.

I agree that adults should see truths about the world even when they don’t want to. But ten year olds? They should get to enjoy a childhood without seeing images of human slaughter.

What’s far worse though, I think of all the poor Ukrainian children who have had their childhoods ripped away from them, what they’ve had to witness, some seeing parents, friends and family murdered and their homes blown up and some children losing arms and legs, paralyzed, etc. and going through the rest of their lives like that.

That of course is more horrific than just watching a video of it but no children should ever have to lose their childhood prematurely. You only get one, it lasts a short time anyway and a healthy childhood can sometimes be what sustains a person’s optimism and persistence when bad things happen in adult life.

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Embedding your links:

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This was incredibly powerful. Even dead-inside Joni Ernst was teary and came out of the session insisting the US needs to send more aid to Ukraine…after having voted against sending aid to Ukraine.

The moment any Repub Congressperson opens their mouth to say anything, all Dems should just yell and chant, “Shut the fuck up!” until they finally do. They have nothing to offer but adding CO2 to the ozone. Consider it a way to fight Climate Change.

Khirad
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Exactly my point. They should, but we’re still dumb. They have no souls worth shouting at.

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Years ago, even before The Planet began its orbit, I readily engaged people on The Right to debate their positions and I even was trollbusting for a while.

But today, I don’t bother to engage the far-more-extremist MAGAs or trolls/bots that intentionally post horrible things to incite and pwn “the libtards”.

With the Russians, Repubs, etc. hiring people and bot farms to manipulate the public and being that you often don’t know if it’s a bot or catfisher or an authentic RW nutjob who posted something offensive or phony, it seems to me that engaging them is helping them accomplish their goals of disrupting discussions about real issues and engendering more and more animosity in our society.

So, I only have conversations with intelligent, aware and reasoned people who have a conscience and respect for others.

That’s why we don’t have as big a membership as Facebook. Nor the level of world-destroying greed and manipulation. Oh well, you can’t have everything.

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In the meantime, we are all on Arizona time now, Japan had a really big earthquake – and I’m sure lot’s of other things as always, but Ukraine us up there for me so: a couple of many things I’m watching…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk4g7b7HFCE

In other news rain is wet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lSgEJNW8B4

Was actually banned again on facebook because I dunno … stevia isn’t as good as raw sugar, or it’s pop not soda… I’m losing track what my “hate speech” is anymore – when I’m the one against New Coke and for Clear Pepsi? I also think that eggshell white is superior to muted taupe and that Sammy Hagar and David Lee Roth were equally proficient douchebags in their own respective ways. There’s my hate speech! Ban me here too!

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Thanks to the nasty spammers out there, if any comment has more than one YouTube link, it won’t embed. So I’m re-posting each below your comment so folks can see them. Explanations are cool.

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And the second of your videos:

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Doesn’t sound like the earthquake caused a great deal of damage and no tsunami. I know people who are obsessed with worries about tsunamis from seeing videos of how horrible they are…and they’re not even close to the ocean!

After you’ve been banned 100 times from Facebook, do you get a gold-embossed badge shaped like prison bars?

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Between me watching Zelensky’s address to Congress and waiting for Biden… and I’m just… WWIII looking kinda good …

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Pity the poor Repubs who vote against Ukraine aid while howling that Biden isn’t giving Ukraine enough aid. I heard pretzels are suing the GOP for copyright infringement…and the language in the filing is very salty.

Yeah. Ouch.

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Haburg givwa you pass. Bosnia not so much still.

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When I was really young I couldn’t say my own name, due to an ear infection. I could read beyond my level – like sixth grade, when I was in 2nd. I could not say may own name, let alone communicate. I was in intensive speech therapy, but I was not in cognitive decline.

First off, the irony of Trumpists … go fuck yourselves … projection, admission, yada yada.

Biden suffered all his life with a stutter – and I will punch somebody in the fucking face if they attack his stutter one more time.

Disagree with him, but … well, what do you excpect from the right wing?

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