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AdLib On September - 18 - 2012

PlanetPOV has gotten its hands on an exclusive new clip from the just released video of Mitt Romney’s private fundraising meeting!

It may be brief but watch as the staff serving the multimillionaires and billionaires in attendance respond to Mitt Romney’s attack on them as part of the 47% of Americans who only take and don’t contribute to society.

HERE IT IS:

Written by AdLib

My motto is, "It is better to have blogged and lost hours of your day, than never to have blogged at all."

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  1. foodchain says:

    Lucky ducky if it works

  2. This has to be the most cynical and treasonous thing I’ve ever heard. The worst part is right wingers are proudly tweeting it with their support.

    Mitch McConnell: “Yes, the GOP did block a vote on the Veterans Job Corps Bill. We’d love to help veterans, but not if it helps Obama.”

    I cannot imaging this traitor being the Senate Majority Leader. What kind of country would we be if we let pols blatantly put politics before country and in this case veterans like this? This is not just going backwards this is civil war where our own vets are collateral damage.

    • foodchain says:

      KQ, just completely disheartening. I think treason has been breeched/broached? often with these people. Trying to bring down an elected president sounds like grounds of attempted overthrowing of our government, but anger, attack and moral justification doesn’t seem to measure for the democrats.

    • kesmarn says:

      KQ, I gasped out loud when I read that tweet. For a second I wondered if it could be an Onion parody. But — no — unfortunately. That’s the real McConnell. I would say “warts and all,” but he’s nothing but one big wart.

    • Nirek says:

      KQ, I am disgusted by their un-American behavior !
      They should be impeached on the grounds of treason!

      • The funny part is I can’t even fully verify that McConnell even said this beyond twitter. I saw this in a tweet sent by a teabagger that was proudly distributing it as some kind of distorted badge of courage. I mean if he said it or not how can you be proud of this statement.

    • AdLib says:

      Just disgusting, KQ. They are traitors by any definition. They took an oath to work for the American people and are betraying them, end of story.

  3. AdLib says:

    The top story on Yahoo right now:

    Poll: America disconnected from Romney

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    http://news.yahoo.com/esquire-yahoo-news-poll-americans-little-common-with-romney.html

    • That’s one of those underlying questions that speaks volumes. I’m not sure I like the way the question seems to be phrased because the numbers are actually lower than similar questions I’ve seen in other polls for Obama and Romney but the relative results are revealing.

  4. Pew just put out a poll that is extraordinarily good news for President Obama, especially the cross tabs.

    Amongst LVs Obama is up 51-43

    With an eight-point lead over Mitt Romney among likely voters, Obama holds a bigger September lead than the last three candidates who went on to win in November, including Obama four years ago. In elections since 1988, only Bill Clinton, in 1992 and 1996, entered the fall with a larger advantage.

    http://www.people-press.org/2012/09/19/obama-ahead-with-stronger-support-better-image-and-lead-on-most-issues/

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    There are a couple bad signs like the fact that young voters are not enthusiastic but that’s pretty standard for reelection campaigns. The other bad sign is the voters are not too hopeful that Obama or Romney could help the economy much. You have to wonder from Obama supporters standpoint is that because they think a GOP House would still obstruct jobs bills.

    • My mother was the wife of a steel worker for 58 years. She and dad raised 4 children, the youngest of which is me. The first born is an over-achiever as described by the hierarchy of children in a dysfunctional family. My beloved brother. (no sarcasm intended)

      He has lived overseas for the last 30 odd years, and is somewhat of an ex-pat. He is also very conservative in the Eisenhower tradition. He’s been out of America too long to see what the republican party has turned into. He’s been busy finding work and working his tail off for the group that hired him at the age of 58. A fiber optics business in Oman. He is married to a Russian women and provides for her without question.

      I guess I got a little side tracked here. My mother supports Obama and I just recently went to the polls in MA., to help my mom vote. Her eyesight is deteriorating and I served as her eyes for the small print that was on the ballot. She flat out voted for Elizabeth Warren. I am very proud of her choice. She doesn’t stay as current as we do, but she knows a good person when she sees one. I have no doubt in my mind that Mom is not alone in her realization of what is going on in the Romney campaign. She and her “peers,” are very intelligent, which I am lucky enough to receive a bit of those smarts.
      Real people, with decades of real world experience, are voting for Obama. Old does not mean stupid. My Mom and her peers are much smarter than the willfully ignorant RWers that have been bamboozled
      by Romney/Ryan.
      Truth will shine on, despite the best efforts to the contrary.

      • foodchain says:

        KT, my mom passed but I took her in--as her eyes--to vote against George. Five foot tall. Macular/retianal, needing help in the booth. I was very proud to be there.

        It’s a good long line to remember these great people

      • kesmarn says:

        KT, my dad just turned 90 and you could not pay him to vote for anyone but President Obama. He absolutely despises Romney and the Republican Party (in its current incarnation) in general. Even with failing vision and poor hearing, he keeps up with the news.

        He has been such an ardent supporter of the president that one of his extremely prejudiced neighbors had the gall to call him a “n***** lover,” which is a title that my dad assured him he took great pride in.

        They haven’t spoken since… and this was 3 years ago!

      • AdLib says:

        Great to hear, KT. Cheers to your mother and her insight about Warren! It is very affirming to see people like her make the effort to vote, especially when it’s not so easy.

        Those younger people who think it’s a waste of time or are too lazy to make the effort should be encouraged (feeling ashamed first) by her example.

        My mom is up there in years too, she’s actually working a phone bank part time for Obama. Very proud of her!

      • Thanks for sharing such a wonderful life story.

        People fundamentally want a president that is on their side and will work to make America a better place. I think the small and large government thing is way overrated with the public. People just want government to be exactly as big or small as it needs to be. President Obama is not a big government liberal. He just wants to help people and make America better.

    • I can’t help myself.

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  5. Kalima says:

    Two interesting articles before I sleep.

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    Ex-Bush aide Mark McKinnon keeps waiting for Romney to turn his campaign around and show the right stuff. After the 47 percent tape, he’s not sure that moment will ever come

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/09/19/mark-mckinnon-on-why-time-is-running-out-for-mitt-romney.html

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    GOP Civil War Is Coming as Mitt Romney Campaign Flails in Video’s Wake

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/09/18/gop-civil-war-is-coming-as-mitt-romney-campaign-flails-in-video-s-wake.html

    • Good articles but they keep on saying the GOP civil war is coming. I think the GOP civil war is over and the confederates won because a serving moderate Republican is as extinct as the dodo bird.

      • AdLib says:

        KQ -- First, the only type of internal conflict the GOP could have is an Uncivil War. Second, I agree that when it comes to the base, the civil war was lost in 2010 but when it comes to the GOP Elite vs. the Koch-funded Baggers, I think there will indeed be a civil war for the leadership of the party if Romney loses as expected.

        Consider who the GOP nominee is, not a Bagger, a GOP Elite who they didn’t want. So the Baggers may have power over the base but they still don’t have power over the reins of the party.

        The GOP Elite will want to fight them off and keep power, also wanting to figure out how to win elections and that may mean moving away a little from the extreme RW. Meanwhile, the Baggers are getting fed up with not controlling the party in full, they have no awareness that their RW mindset is unattractive to most voters and want the party moving farther right.

        When Romney loses, and he will, the GOP Elite will blame it on his not having moved enough to the middle in the GE and the Baggers will blame it on him not moving far enough to the right.

        That’s when the fireworks will start and I can’t wait to watch the show. The GOP Elite may have delighted in watching the Baggers attack Dems, Obama, the US Credit Rating, etc. but when that Golem turns on them, it will be suh-weet!

      • Kalima says:

        Hi K, I agree. The “Civil War” was fought and lost in 2010 when the TP won all those seats and the GOP had to become shape changers to conform. They lost the battle and all that remains is the nasty, bitter and racist dregs. A moderate Republican wouldn’t stand a chance in the climate that will only deepen once the President is re-elected. They will be swallowed whole by their own hate, and only a handful of crazy voters will be left to defend them. A fitting end to their almost 4 years of sheer madness and plotting. I savour the spectacle, and wish the same for the Tories and their greed which is destroying the last straws of decency and compassion in a country that I grew to love.

        • AdLib says:

          Kalima, I too am looking forward to the GOP Elite getting their comeuppance from creating this hateful monster called the Tea Party.

          Moderate Repubs are virtually non-existent now and as the Baggers pull the party farther right, it could finally become what we thought it would become after Obama won in 2008, a long-term minority party.

          Personally, I hope the GOP Elite hold onto power and the Baggers engage them in a furious war that goes on for years.

          Do unto others, indeed!

          • Kalima says:

            Hi AdLib, the coming debates and the recovery of a dear friend is all that I”m really looking forward to in a year that has brought a lot of personal pain one way or another.

            I can imagine a red faced, sweating Romney getting snarky and nasty, while Obama keeps his usual cool and floors him with truths and facts. Oh the joy after all of the utter rubbish we have witnessed from the GOP this year and the last 4 years.

            Karma, I love you!! Truth, I bow to your good name.

        • Exactly K and I love the perspective you have on the Tories going down the same road.

          I don’t see a resolution for the GOP either besides them going even further right because the moderate conservatives just are not real passionate folks. So options like the moderate GOP starting a third party are off the table. The only group I can see breaking away from the GOP are Libertarians who have had it with the GOP establishment.

          In a way I feel bad for moderate conservatives like Andrew Sullivan. Sully deals with it by rationalizing that Obama is more conservative than he is but many Republicans are just out in the wilderness.

          • Kalima says:

            When things have become as bad as this in the public arena, it’s time to seriously think about changing parties. Moderate conservatives must be feeling abandoned, but if I had witnessed the gradual and rabid decline of my party, I would be very embarrassed right now, embarrassed enough not to say that I was in any way connected with the GOP.

            I like what Sullivan has to say about many issues for the last few years, but don’t admire the head-in-the-sand stance at all. The GOP can only get worse from here on, and anyone with any integrity and self respect would leave in my opinion. Hanging around expecting these jaded old white men to change, is like waiting for water to change into wine. Not going to happen.

            • Kalima says:

              It is impossible to compare Cameron to Obama, it would be like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. I think Sullivan is living in the past, and even in the past, the Tories have never been good with the economy, just ask John Major about how he left the country when he lost to Labour.

              It must be hard to let go for some, but I think that if you are a victim of domestic abuse, and it never improves, you get out before your partner has a chance to kill you. The Tories are losing the battle, he should deal with it.

              I’ve never read anything by him that I thought was in any way mean spirited. I think it’s because he had a social conscience and principles, what most conservatives are sorely lacking in the last decade or so. You can’t teach people to be decent, they either are or they are not.

            • I know what you mean about Sullivan on US politics I agree with him allot but when Sullivan compares Obama to Cameron it makes me want to scream. It just shows he’s a partisan for the Tories and is blind to their move to the right. But to his credit he doesn’t seem to have a mean spirit like too many conservatives.

  6. Nirek says:

    How does Romney expect to get votes when he insults the people who vote?

  7. AdLib says:

    This video was on the Daily Show tonight, just amazing. Mitt Romney’s mother, trying to humanize George Romney, explains…George Romney was on welfare! Yes, George Romney was one of the deadbeat, taker parasites.

    And as Jon Stewart said, according to Mitt Romney, his father wouldn’t even vote for him and there’s nothing he could do to change his mind.


  8. funksands says:

    Let’s break this down shall we?

    129 million people voted in 2008 Presidential election.

    I don’t think Romney really meant people living on SS and Medicare are parasites, and he’d never admit to veterans being moochers, and most of the people not paying net federal income tax DO pay payroll tax, so they at least pay something. So… I can only conclude he means people on actual welfare.

    4.4 million people on welfare. 50% of those are children, and I don’t think Obama is trying to corner the child vote

    = 2.2 million

    Let’s say 75% of those would vote for Obama (I’m being generous)
    = 1.65 million

    Let’s say, like everyone else only 50% of those people show up to vote in November
    = 825,000

    825,000 divided by 129 million is .06%

    Yep that’s pretty darn close to 47%!!

    RomneyRyan math at work again.

    Lawrence O’Donnell was right: “The Romney campaign is being swallowed by stupid people.”

  9. funksands says:

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  10. An instant classic from the Obama camp. Cut out the states that Romney does not want to govern.

  11. The Planet should make this a daily button until the end of the election. It would be a great place to just vent about Romney and the Republican party.

  12. glenn says:

    I think it’s important for President Obama’s supporters to never underestimate the influence of the right wing message machine. Many of them have already lined up to defend Romney, and because they don’t get “news” from any other source, they will never hear the other side.

    I have been on other websites where the right is talking about the unemployment figures and the deficit. When people point out the truth that republicans/tpartiers have done nothing to create jobs, and that the majority of the deficit came from gwb, they tell us that President Obama won’t “own” up to his responsibilities; and that he is “blaming bush”. When we point out that congress is the part of the government that makes laws, they say that President Obama is not a leader,and that gwb got things done with a Democratic congress. When we point that this republican/tpartier congress has had a record number of filibusters, we get the refrain that President Obama had the majority in Congress for two years (which is not true), and that he didn’t do anything to create jobs. When we point out that President Obama passed the stimulus, they say the stimulus didn’t work, and besides what about Solyandra, and what about all those jobs that went to his cronies (another lie), what about ______________fill in the blank with the newest lie told by the right wing, and promptly debunked by fact checkers. When we point out that the fact checkers say it is a lie, well you all know what Romney and the right wing think about fact checkers, and/or the “liberal, lamestream media that is in Obama’s pocket”.

    It’s truly mind-boggling how the republicans/tpartiers will not own up to one single thing they should be taking responsibility for, yet cry “foul” when President Obama and/or his supporters point out the things for which republicans/tpartiers should be taking responsibility.

    Then, of course, you have to throw in the garbage that’s been repeated time and time again about President Obama “sealing” his college records; “losing” his law license (and Mrs. Obama too, on this one), the “forged” birth certificate (yes, they still actually bring that one up), and any other crazy email that’s been making the rounds that week.

    And, of course, although we are gaining jobs steadily since the stimulus was passed, although the stock market is at record highs; although corporate profits are also at record highs, my personal favorite….”President Obama has failed and made things worse.” Usually in all caps.

    My point in all this rambling is that no matter how many stupid remarks Romne makes; no matter how many foreign countries/governments/peoples he insults, the cacophony in the right wing echo chamber will never cease its relentless assault on our democracy.

    So…we need to VOTE and if you have early voting in your state, vote ASAP. And bring as many friends as you can, because despite what we see and hear, the right is only allowed to see and hear the invisible Obama in Eastwood’s chair.

    • kesmarn says:

      You’re so right, glenn, and you make an eloquent case. The RW commenters seem to be out in full force on sites like facebook. And they don’t even attempt rational arguments. One woman posted: “Well I’m going to vote for Romney no matter what, and there’s nothing any of you can do to stop me. Hahahahaha!”

      These people don’t think. They don’t like to think. I’m beginning to wonder if thinking actually causes them physical pain. They avoid it so ardently. They operate purely on emotion. Especially negative emotions like fear, anger, prejudice. They can’t be rationally argued out of their fear. Their fundamentalist religion and their FOX News and Limbaugh are like their “thunder shirts” (those little jackets people put on dogs to calm their anxieties).

      Today’s Nate Silver statistics are a little daunting. The probability of the President’s re-election, which was once at 80%, is now at 72.9%

      You’re right. We need to VOTE.

      • At this point that blind devotion and hatred of Obama is all the GOP has. But it’s still scary to think this thing really isn’t over yet. It’s really just a reoccurring nightmare to think Romney still has a chance no matter how small people think it is.

        • choicelady says:

          Anyone seen “2016” that purports to be ‘fact’ about Obama’s background? The “reviews” are all pretty weird -- there are a lot of people who think if you see a movie, it’s fact. Well it’s hogwash.

          It is the one unknown factor since it is a huge attraction -- who knows what kind of impact it will make on voters in the middle, those who pay little attention.

          We can’t say it’s over until it’s over.

    • Well said and you make allot of great points.

      Like you said the base will always defend Romney. I know for a fact the base loves what Romney said and wants to run on the 47% line but this election is about those in the center and the right wing strategy would be a major loser.

      That being said we can never say it’s over until it’s over and have to fight the distortions and lies all the way until the election is over for real.

      • glenn says:

        I’m hoping that those in the center who are still undecided will help President Obama win this election; but as you said, we can never say it’s over until it’s over.

        I truly consider myself one of those center voters, although I made up my mind even before Romney came out with this nonsense.

        I am concerned about the deficit and unemployment. I don’t see how we can ever reduce the deficit until we raise revenue. I am willing to pay more taxes to repair/renew our infrastructure, pay for research for wind and solar power and other alternatives, and most especially public education.

        I don’t see how we’re going to reduce unemployment until the government passes another stimulus; hopefully one this time that does not include tax cuts; a stimulus that includes only jobs. And, I don’t see that happening until we get the republicans/tpartiers out of government. I keep asking on other sites why the “job creators” aren’t hiring when they are sitting on record amounts of money, the stock market is up, and there are probably at least 20 qualified applicants for one job opening. To me, those seem like almost perfect conditions for hiring; yet unemployment continues to stagnate. BTW,the answers I usually get are President Obama hates business, or the “job creators are waiting for a “republican president.”

        I feel so sorry (not) for these poor “job creators” who have to have everything in their little world perfect before they can “create jobs.” And, I’m still trying to figure out how Romney is going to magically create jobs on his first day as president (hopefully this will never happen) while at the same time cutting federal programs and putting even more people out of work. I know unemployment doesn’t count in the republican/tpartier world if it’s a public sector job, but tell that to those who are working at those public sector jobs.

        I have also seen articles about how the economy is positioned to pick up no matter who is president. I don’t know if these articles are true or not, because who can predict, but I’ll be damned if I’ll let the republians/tpartiers get credit for that, which is another reason I’ll never vote for Romney. I know that sounds just like McConnell saying they will do everything in their power to make President Obama a one-term president; but again, I’ll be damned if I will help republicans, and tea partiers especially, get rewarded for their unpatriotic and treasonous behavior.

        So, we have to keep up the fight until November, and help to move this country forward. Don’t forget to vote a straight Democratic ticket, because we have to send a strong message that we will not tolerate treasonous behavior. That being said, if you find a moderate republican, do vote for him/her, because we do need a two-party (or more) system in the U.S. I am not so blinded by partisanship to believe that Democrats have all the answers; and I’d like to see us return to the days when both parties worked together for the good of the country.

        • I don’t know what I could really add because you said it all and said it so well.

          I’m still optimistic about this election but have allot of anxiety about it as well. Some recent polls are tightening again and I just want the president to break away for good. I’m starting to wonder if people are just so use to Romney’s gaffes it’s been factored into people’s mindsets and they don’t matter anymore. If anything I see the chances of keeping the Senate as much much better than a month ago. I mean even Tim Kaine is ahead in VA now.

    • foodchain says:

      Glenn youmare so right about the vote. I am humbled by not overwhelming abilityy of the right to

      • foodchain says:

        glenn arrg ipad iser! The ability of the right to message is one thing, butnthe capacity flr their audience to soak upmlies as steak and potatoes is maddening, saddening amd disgusting

  13. MurphTheSurf3 says:

    You are just too evil- in a really good sort of way.

  14. AdLib says:

    Here’s a simple explanation about the 46% (not 47%) of people who don’t pay federal income tax, courtesy of the Tax Policy Center:

    46.4% of Households Paid No Federal Income Tax for 2011
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    But Nearly Two-Thirds of Households
    That Paid No Income Tax Paid Payroll Taxes
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    Who Paid Neither Income Nor Payroll Taxes?
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    http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxtopics/federal-taxes-households.cfm

    • foodchain says:

      Ad, It might have been Ezra Klein sho said the GOP have done a magnificent job of talking only about income tax--a progressive tax--without any mention of payroll tax, which the federal tax, social security and medicare taxes, all of which are regressive.

      So, at $50,000, married, 2 exemptions: $19625 is deducted. Pretty big percent compared to people of higher income. This is a nuance and blatant at the same time in my opinion.

      All the talk of taxes is really on the excess of payroll deduction and that is treated as a non-starter in a lot of those white men earning $50,000.

      How important words and images are!


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