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AdLib On September - 19 - 2012

Thanks to KQuark for suggesting that we set up an ongoing thread for discussing the slow motion kamikaze nose dive into the GOP known as the Mitt Romney Presidential campaign.

As of the date of this post, there are six weeks and six days left until Election Day. At the current rate, that means we should see 6-7 more Mitt Romney emergency press conferences by then.

Some key questions at this point:

1. Has Romney permanently damaged his credibility and image over the last two weeks, with his false accusations of President Obama apologizing and siding with Muslim terrorists in the recent uprisings followed up by the release of the video of him at a fundraiser denigrating 47% of the American people?

2. Even with expectations low for Romney in the debates, can even a well reviewed performance by pundits make a meaningful difference with voters? What can Romney possibly do or say in a debate that would transcend all that has happened in the last few weeks? Might President Obama at least perform to a draw at worst and if so, does just his presence on the stage with Obama still benefit Romney as looking Presidential?

3. Can a flood of SuperPAC ads between now and Election Day, pushing Romney and slamming Obama, really change minds or will people be tuning them out, having already made up their minds?

Here are some propositions on the queries above.

Mitt Romney has confirmed an image of himself which is inescapable at least to some degree. His desperation seems more and more apparent and his flip-flopping and twisting of the truth and what he’s on video saying only strengthens the perception of him as having no core and willing to say anything no matter how hypocritical or contradictory, just to get the Presidency in his hands. Because of this, I think there is a ceiling to how much he can improve his position and it isn’t enough to win the election.

As to the debates, Romney and his team see them as his last possible shot at reversing his descent so they are going to throw all they can at winning them. He has been preparing for them for a long time and putting a lot of time and energy into it. He will no doubt have plenty of manipulative (and contradictory) quotes he’ll spout that were written for him by the best speechwriters the Repubs have. So I don’t doubt that he will get his share of pats on the back from MSM pundits after his first debate with Obama…even though it will be just for being a parrot. At the same time, he will be faced with his lies, with his lack of specifics about his cuts in his budget, with his irresponsible response to the Muslim protests and with his attack on 47% of Americans. There is no question that he will be prepared to spin these questions into blather about how bad Obama is but the net effect on those who watch is that they will be reminded of Romney’s poor judgement and lack of principles…and witness to his dancing away from responsibility, honesty and details. This subtext of the debate will no doubt be lost on those in the MSM who want this to be as close a race as possible but to the voters, it will continue to anchor Romney down as someone with whom they don’t feel comfortable. Lastly, whetner Romney stumbles or Obama just out points him, Obama may win the first debate hands down and if he does, the curtain may fall on Romney even though two debates would be left. Romney’s candidacy looks like a losing one right now, even Republican pundits say so. Losing the first debate would knock Romney so far down the ladder, what follows could seem moot and lose its power to influence.

As to the power of the right wing SuperPACs to brainwash people into voting for Romney with incessant ads that lie and propagandize, here too I think there is a limited potential for impact. There will be those indie voters who already have solidified their opinion of Romney as someone they don’t trust and ads supporting him by his allies will simply be disregarded by them. The number of undecided voters is already small and getting smaller each week so the pool of people who could be manipulated will be exponentially smaller as time goes by. Many undecided voters have been strongly impacted by the revelations about Romney in the last few weeks and annoying, negative tv ads won’t overcome that for many of them.

The polls showing how broadly people don’t relate to Romney and don’t favor him against Obama on any issue make for a very high wall that Romney simply doesn’t seem able to climb over. And there are two more key events in the next month that could build that wall even higher, no matter how well Romney is said to have done in debates.

First, there are Romney’s 2011 tax returns that he has said he would release in October. He is an unapologetic liar so it is possible that considering the position he finds himself in now as the 47% of Americans hating elitist, he may just refuse to release them as promised. If he doesn’t, it will be an enormous and damaging issue, if he does, it will be an enormous and damaging issue because, whether or not there is anything they weren’t able to clean up, it will be a very simple and clear reminder of Romney as the elitist multimillionaire who pays a smaller percentage of taxes than you…and the issue of the wealthy fighting against tax fairness is brought front and center. A bit of a problem for the candidate who wants to slash taxes even more for the wealthy and tax the middle class and poor more.

Second, there is the jobs report for September. As last month’s non-impact of the report showed, this is a win-win for Obama. Historically, September is usually a positive month for job growth, coming when kids go back to school and summer jobs are vacated that can be filled by the unemployed. Preliminary reports, for what they’re worth, seem to indicate the numbers will be positive for Obama. If they are positive and the unemployment rate goes down, Obama will have a more powerful argument to say that things are getting better. Remarkably, the public has been shifting meaningfully to saying the country is on the right track. Giving credit to the American people, they seem to understand that the economy and the job numbers won’t be improving quickly so even if the jobs report shows little improvement, this won’t be a surprise or a negative to voters. The jobs report can’t really hurt Obama but it can really help him.

The bottom line here on which both Democrats and Republicans agree is that Mitt Romney has no core and has displayed incompetence in running this billion dollar venture. What some people don’t realize, partly because Romney has lied about this, Mitt Romney has never really run a “real” business. Being CEO of Bain was more like being the top guy running a ponzi scheme. It was like playing a game that’s rigged. The laws of capitalism and business were and are irrelevant, they could make terrible decisions and bankrupt companies but they made millions all the same. They didn’t have to be smart or resourceful, they just used money as a hammer to crack companies wide open and steal their money.

Running this campaign is the first time Mitt Romney has had to run a real business that had concrete rules and obstacles and when faced with having to win a game that wasn’t rigged for him to win, Romney proves himself to be the incompetent failure that he is (and would have been in life if he hadn’t been born with a silver spoon and protected from reality his whole life).

As mentioned, we have a ways to go before Election Day and whether or not Romney closes the gap in the polls, Obama can’t win re-election if people don’t get out there and vote for him. So schadenfreude at Romney’s self-destruction may be enjoyable but enthusiasm to volunteer, contribute, help get out the vote and vote oneself is what’s most important to achieving the re-election of President Obama.

Written by AdLib

My motto is, "It is better to have blogged and lost hours of your day, than never to have blogged at all."

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  1. Now this is how much empathy Romney really has for Americans.

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  2. With a picture like this we need a caption contest.

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  3. Kalima says:

    Hey, why not? :)


    The Blowout Scenario Following a Possible Obama Landslide
    by Michael Tomasky Oct 1, 2012 4:45 AM EDT

    Heading into the debates, an Obama victory on Election Day is looking likely. But what if he doesn’t just win, but wins huge? Michael Tomasky on the consequences of a landslide.


    • Great article. It looks like Tomasky is back on his game.

      • Kalima says:

        Hi K, well it’s certainly more uplifting than the constant doom and gloom from others who have nothing better to do than complain with their hair on fire constantly. I’m getting pretty sick of those types. If you want someone to win, you support them and cheer them on where I come from, not bash them 2/3 rds of the way through the game.

        Nothing is impossible, except for maybe a Romney win at this point. Landslide or no landslide, the President will still win from where I’m sitting. Looking forward to Wednesday, I hope Obama squashes him in the nicest possible way. 😉 The GOPTP needs to be taken down a peg or two, they have gone too far on every possible level. Just vote.

  4. AdLib says:

    Okay, you tell me, is this impartial reporting or cheerleading from HP for Romney to make a comeback and make the race closer…and more profitable for them:

    Barack Obama is cruising into the presidential debates with momentum on his side, yet he’s still struggling to revive the passion and excitement that propelled him to the White House. Mitt Romney is grasping for his last, best chance to reboot his campaign after a disastrous September.

    Obama, no longer the fresh face of 2008, must convince skeptical Americans that he can accomplish in a second term what he couldn’t in his first, restoring the economy to full health.
    Romney, anxious to keep the race from slipping away, needs to instill confidence that he is a credible and trusted alternative to the president, with a better plan for strengthening the economy.

    Really? Obama is struggling to generate enthusiasm? At all those huge rallies that are exponentially bigger than Romney’s, with approval ratings at a high since the race began and over 50%? With polls showing him ahead by double digits in the most important swing states?

    HP continues to affirm itself as a mercenary corporate propaganda site, devoted to increasing its own profits regardless of the truth and the principles of journalism.

    • Yup since Obama has shown a definite lead it’s been take Obama down a peg. Today is no different every other left leaning site is talking about the election and HP is complaining about Afghanistan. I guess they like Romney’s policy of indefinite occupation? rather than Obama ending the war with a definite time table (of course another policy Romney is not really specific on where Obama is).

    • kesmarn says:

      Exactly, AdLib. When anyone actually looks at video of President Obama’s appearances, the tremendous enthusiasm of the audiences is obvious. When he appeared last week in Bowling Green, the audience was huge, screaming with approval and very amped. It’s hard to believe that was an anomaly.

      I don’t know if you follow the cartoon “Doonesbury,” but if you do you’ve probably noticed that there’s a character who was downsized out of his job in journalism. Unable to find another job, he’s reduced to the ultimate state of humiliation: writing for the Huffington Post. And Garry Trudeau makes endless jokes about that! 😆

      • choicelady says:

        …and poor Rick is writing for FREE at HuffPo! THAT is the source of constant humiliation as even the FOX reporter (they use the term loosely) gets interviews Rick cannot. AH’s exploitative use of people is not given short shrift.

        • kesmarn says:

          Ah…c’lady, I see you’re a Doonesbury reader too. Don’t you feel for poor Rick? Even Roland Headley is pulling ahead of him, as you noted.

          It’s great to see Aryana’s little balloon getting pricked in such a public and well known venue, no?

      • SueInCa says:

        Now that is funny Kes. Huffpo the ultimate humiliation. You notice they are not the faves on the pundit circuit anymore

        • kesmarn says:

          BFF! Good to see you. We keep missing each other, but I hope we can all catch up here during the debate tomorrow night. I’m off work!

          Yes, I agree on the pundit circuit. I don’t have cable any more, but I also don’t hear references to interviews with HP people any more either. Good riddance.

  5. Nirek says:

    Lets not get complacent.
    Get out and vote on election day!
    Our votes do count!

  6. Kalima says:

    As predicted, voters don’t want to lose Medicare or SS.


    Challenges for Romney after Ryan pick come into focus


    • AdLib says:

      But everyone surrounding Ryan agreed with him on his vicious, greed-driven budget and killing Medicare…and that the Earth is less than 6,000 years old, how could it be that most Americans oppose all of that? This is an insult to RW bubbles and loudmouth Republican pundits! It’s an outrage!

  7. kesmarn says:

    Could “these people” possibly get more small-minded and juvenile?

    As a sitting U.S. Senator, Scott Brown should have enough self-respect and respect for the office to insist that this sign be taken down:


    • AdLib says:

      Must be hard for Scott Brown supporters to make signs like that by day after having been up all night burning crosses.

      • It’s really going to be a tight race between the two. I think Elizabeth Warren just might win though. The color of Mass has changed a bit from blue to purple over the last decade. I think Warren will get more of the women’s vote.

        • choicelady says:

          And all of the Native American vote. One of the CA tribal chiefs has a Russian last name and sandy hair. There are fascinating family histories in America that should be celebrated, not reviled.

          Give it up, Brown. You are making an ass of yourself -- again. You haven’t a SHRED of evidence Ms. Warren used her heritage for affirmative action. Not an iota. What’s your problem here? Like Mitt you wish you were a minority? Yeah. Right.

  8. escribacat says:

    Interesting article from last summer about Romney’s abrupt (think “bots”) rise in twitter followers.


    • AdLib says:

      Then again, you can’t underestimate Romney’s appeal to fellow “bots” (“One of us! One of us!”)

    • kesmarn says:

      Hah! Just as we all suspected, e’cat. Phoney — just like the candidate.

      This test revealed a significant difference between the distribution of followers among the accounts in Mitt Romney’s recent spike and that of similar users in our comparison. It strongly indicates that non-organic processes induced Romney’s recent surge in followers. We did not find a similar pattern in Barack Obama’s recent followers.

  9. Kalima says:

    As a RC left wondering how any Catholic could ever vote for Ryan and Romney knowing what they stand for, this is good news.


    Catholics flee Romney-Ryan-Dolan


    • AdLib says:

      Kalima, this is a fascinating development. Here’s another demo that’s amazing to see on Obama’s side…NASCAR fans favor Obama! How bad of a GOP candidate do you have to be to lose the NASCAR vote!

      Then again, maybe bragging about not watching NASCAR but just knowing the owners wasn’t the best pitch to these folks.

      • Kalima says:

        It is interesting AdLib, but I firmly believe that the majority of Catholics worldwide still feel that helping others and the plight of the needy come way before issues like contraception and abortions, so I think this was a natural course back to what we are all about, despite the bishops and their old fashioned ideology, we prefer the nuns.

        😆 You know you are in deep doodoo when NASCAR fans prefer Obama over you. Poetic justice for Mr. Lah-di-da don’t you think?

        • AdLib says:

          Kalima, I’d think the same thing. It’s the squeaky and extremist wheels that get the most media exposure and usually, they represent a minority of the group they claim to be. Choicelady has mentioned how the stereotype of religious people being right wing bewilders some people who hear about her large and Progressive Christian organization.

          Any one who is sincerely Christian would logically respect and value Christ’s values and being hateful of one’s fellow human beings, heartless and greedy just doesn’t follow.

          As for Romney, it seems the only demographic he is winning is the Satanists Over 65.

          • choicelady says:

            Indeed. I’ve had people blow us off as a “tiny number” when we directly represent 1.5 MILLION people and, through denominations, reach another 5 million the majority of whom are thoughtful and caring people. The RW don’t have our influence in CA, but the media act as if they rule the world.


    • kesmarn says:

      Kalima, this gives me hope that the views of the “Nuns on the Bus” will prevail over those of pseudo-Catholics like Gingrich and Ryan.
      I like those numbers!

      • Kalima says:

        Yes kes exactly, it does give hope that our religion is about more than just birth control and abortion, and back to helping those in need as we always have in the past.. That we are about more than just the follies of some old men who are either too stubborn or too afraid to move with, or lead their vast congregation of over 1billion 300 million, into the 21st century.

        As I’ve said here before, there is nothing remotely Catholic about Ryan or Gingrich, or those who are trying to take it over. I believe in the teachings of Jesus, not the dictatorial men who claim to either speak for him or represent him. When the Church goes back to remembering what we are all about and whom we serve, I’ll go back to attending Mass.

        • choicelady says:

          The leader of the Nuns on the Bus is a former colleague, and along with her own predecessor and colleagues, they all fight for “pro life values” working for the people who are already HERE. Best way to prevent abortion is to stabilize people economically and give them sustainable hope and a realistic future.

  10. bito says:

    Mitt Romney released a new ad to try and recover after dismissing half of America, but Mitt Romney’s words speak for themselves….

  11. SueInCa says:

    I have some friends on FB in a couple groups I belong to so I think I will pull some of the better posts and place them here for you all t peruse.


    Mitt Romney again went after President Obama’s record on manufacturing jobs since he took over in 2009. Here’s a handy chart that shows you exactly what happened to manufacturing jobs and when

  12. IDK these poll numbers almost sound too good to be true. This would be about double what Obama won OH and FL by in 2008. Must be the librul bias.

    NYT/Quinnipiac Poll:
    Obama up 53-43 in Ohio.
    Obama up 53-44 in Florida.
    Obama up 12 points in PA.


    The stench continues to flow downhill.

  13. If you don’t believe the wheels have totally fallen of the Romney/Ryan bus you will believe it after reading this.

    Paul Ryan vs. The Stench

    Though Ryan had already decided to distance himself from the floundering Romney campaign, he now feels totally uninhibited. Reportedly, he has been marching around his campaign bus, saying things like, “If Stench calls, take a message” and “Tell Stench I’m having finger sandwiches with Peggy Noonan and will text him later.”

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/81618.html#ixzz27XzwsDDq

    OK this is beyond McCain/Palin dysfunction and at an earlier date. Remember when Romney tried to make a big deal that Obama disliked him personally? Well here’s Romney’s own running mate showing he despises the guy. I know people talk about how loyal some of Romney’s inner circle is but I think they are probably allot more loyal to their big paychecks and bonuses than to Romney. Rachael Maddow talked about how Obama and Romney spend the same amount on their extended staff but Obama has twice the number of people. Talk about a bad investment for Romney.

    • kesmarn says:

      “The Stench” and “Gilligan.” Wow. Nice people.

      It’s fascinating that Romney’s people refer to Ryan as Gilligan. Because, who else could Romney possibly be then but Thurston Howell III (and his wife, Notso Lovey)?

      Ryan being booed by grandma and grandpa was a sight to behold. He doesn’t need to worry about washing off the Romney stench. He’s got plenty of his own.

    • AdLib says:

      KQ, my instinct is that this is just snark from Roger Simon and not literally true but I’m sure we’ll find out by tomorrow.

      I’ll bet Ryan is upset about going from one of the “brains” of the GOP before being Romney’s choice for VP to being seen as a cruel, Ayn Rand brainwashed, compulsive liar after being chosen.

      And chafing under orders from Romney to muzzle himself about his offensive plans to kill Medicare, SS, most social services and transfer the wealth from 99% of Americans to the top 1%…which he is deluded into thinking the majority of Americans would support if only he could convince them.

      At the same time, it would be really extreme and is hard to believe that Ryan started publicly referring to Romney as The Stench.

      It is possible, a callous, selfish twit like Ryan sure could be so egocentric and spiteful at coming aboard a losing ticket that is damaging his future that he could go Full Palin.

      On the other hand, being seen as that belligerent and destructive towards the GOP’s Presidential candidate would be pretty career ending.

      So, we’ll see what’s what tomorrow but in any case, I’m loving that the RW blogs have gone ballistic over this, convinced it’s true and it will no doubt be making the rounds on the news channels tomorrow.

      Another news cycle hammering Romney and overlooking the economy issues Romney desperately wants the focus on.

      I think the first debate may very likely be the final nail in Romney’s political coffin. No matter how well prepared he is with snarks and quips and BS and flowery monologues…Obama and Jim Lehrer have so much to corner him on, I don’t see how he escapes all the hypocrisy and messed up things he’s said in the last few weeks and the fundraising video. I don’t think there is anything he can do to come out of that debate any better than he came in…as the loser that he is and will be.

      • IDK AdLib if the ‘Stench’ didn’t come from inside sources Politico and Roger Simon are going to lose the little bit of credibility they had left. I mean if he conflated a fictional unnamed source with a name source, (Craig Robinson, a former political director of the Republican Party of Iowa) it really is crossing the line. By Simon using the term ‘Reportedly’ he’s put his reputation on the line.

        I think you may be giving the GOP too much credit. They have stopped being a professional political party for quite a while. Right now it’s popular for the base to denigrate Romney so in their world anything goes, especially behind closed doors. I really don’t take this as Ryan saying this in front of anyone but his advisers.

        I have to admit much I read about the Romney/Ryan campaign sounds like satire and is hard for me to believe at times as well. Hell Romney’s the guy that wants to put windows in jets you can open at 40,000 feet for safety reasons. It could be Ryan had the same epiphany we had at different points that Romney is as dumb as a stump.

        • AdLib says:

          KQ, it has appeared in a variety of places that Craig Robinson did refer to Ryan as needing to get the Romney stench off of him but I think Simon was having some fun in saying that Ryan has begun referring to Romney as “The Stench”, it does read as humor and intentionally absurd to me. It is an opinion piece and Simon does snark a bit, I don’t think that if this is just a joke that it would harm his reputation.

          So true, the things that Romney and Ryan actually say and do are so ridiculous that satire and parody just don’t stand out from that and in fact, sometimes are more believable than what they’re on video saying.

          I mean, is it more absurd for a Presidential candidate to be bewildered why pressurized jets don’t have windows that can open or for a VP candidate to see that same guy as having a political stench?

          Satire, you are no match for Willard Mitt Romney!

          • Actually the way I found out about the story in the first place was watching Lawrence O’Donnell who was obviously ‘fooled’ by Roger Simon because he repeated Ryan’s quote as fact. So I guess the joke is on people that watch his show as well.


            • AdLib says:

              It wouldn’t be the first time. Remember O’Donnell’s statements of fact that Pawlenty was the GOP nominee, it was just a matter of time?

              His credibility was far more damaged by that than Simon’s would be in making a poor joke, IMO.

              BTW, I’m not particularly a fan of Simon but I don’t think it was his intention to fool anybody, he was just trying to be humorous as David Brooks was in his parody article about Romney…which some people also believed some parts to be true.

              This type of thing has happened a few times already, people parodying Romney and being taken as reporting something that really happened.

              I blame Romney for being so absurdly ignorant and incompetent that he’s made it so difficult to discern parody from his campaign.

          • It’s terrible satire then. I seldomly read Simon because I hate Politico. But I’ll never read him again because I’ll never trust what he writes.

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