• AdLib : Just the reverse here, things didn’t grow well in our garden, too short a Spring? DOn’t know but very disappointed. Night to you too!

  • SallyT : Goodnight, Adlib.

  • AdLib : Well, thanks again for helping me close down the Vox bar! Grab a drink for yourself on the way out! Have a great weekend, Sally!

  • SallyT : We tried to have a garden this year but it never got hot enough for anything to really grow.

  • AdLib : It’s still sweltering down here in LA but the cool evenings are back. I do hate Climate Change too, bad all the way around.

  • SallyT : That is good!

  • AdLib : I am really nauseated by fast food, I can count on one hand how many times my daughter has had fast food from a corporate chain.

  • SallyT : Well, I won’t keep you. I know you are probably tired after all you have been at this all night. I just got here. You take care and have a good weekend. It has turned cool here. We did not have a summer! I hate this climate change but I guess we didn’t have it as bad as other parts did.

  • SallyT : I don’t want to live in the past but sometimes all those simple things were better. Especially food! Fast food and everything they put in it now is making us sick but people can’t accept that. They want it cheap and fast and easy.

  • AdLib : Then, once they see it works and isn’t scary, they embrace it.

  • SallyT : That’s right.

  • AdLib : Sally – That’s the way these things always go. All the Baggers howling about ending DADT and how it will destroy the morale of the military…now after this time reports come out saying that there is no change. Same with any big changes, people are just afraid of the new.

  • SallyT : I grew up with a slop bucket but we took it out to the pigs!

  • SallyT : Another funny thing is you can recycle the pizza box with the food scraps.

  • SallyT : People are so stupid, AdLib. At first they were all complaining about there going to be rats and stuff. But, where was their garbage going before? In the garbage can! Dumb how people hate a little change for the good. They are all happy now, tho.

  • AdLib : Remarkable! That seems futuristic and big-picture thinking to me! We’re not there yet even here in LA.

  • SallyT : It has cut down on garbage pick ups.

  • SallyT : Yes, AdLib. It goes with our yard waste and it is recycled as fertilizer.

  • AdLib : Sally, I didn’t know about that, very interesting and progressive!

  • SallyT : Oh, and we recycle our food waste separately from other waste here in the city. We actually have slop buckets that the city provides.

  • AdLib : Thanks for staying up with me KQ and Sally! I’ll get the empties, you can hit the lights and lock the Vox door! Sleep well tonight and have a great weekend!

  • AdLib : KQ – The truth is, a Bloom Box would hugely transform things. Isn’t it about 80% of electricity that’s lost going across the grid? If people had their own electrical generator and none of the power was lost, and the power they weren’t taking from the grid anymore was preserved…that could mount up to a huge amount of available and affordable energy in every direction. If I were President and Bloom had a solidly working residential box, I would pass a subsidy to get them in millions of homes and there could be a huge economic transformation.

  • SallyT : I just showed up to turn out the lights for AdLib.

  • SallyT : Me, too, KQ.

  • KQµårk 死神 : Man I got to go my eyes are getting blurry.

  • SallyT : The oil companies hate mass transit.

  • KQµårk 死神 : I think politics is even hurting technologies like the Bloom Box because conservatives still control the purse strings of business.

  • SallyT : Of course, AdLib, we have a Dem Governor.

  • SallyT : Portland is also getting pretty big on small communities again. That is why bikes are so popular. Our traffic is a real mess and people hate getting stuck in it. We will be taking the lightrail over to Vancouver WA in the next year.

  • KQµårk 死神 : Oh absolutely AdLib. Those things are just alchemy. The worst thing they do is raise expectations so when a hybrid type thing comes along like the Bloom Box people expect too much.

  • AdLib : Sally – Now that’s even bigger and better. Light rail, subways, mass transit in general would make a huge difference if built out much more dramatically. Obama was trying to do that and then these Bagger Repub Governors refused it! Scott in FL and Christie in NJ! Pigs who doomed folks in their regions for years if not for good.

  • SallyT : We have expanded our lightrail so far now that we are almost to Salem from Portland!

  • AdLib : KQ – Remember the Cold Fusion fraud? And the water as fuel hoax has been around a long time though the gimmick a while back was that by dropping some pill or chemical into your gas tank after filling it with water, you’d have fuel. Uh-huh…

  • KQµårk 死神 : That’s really cool sally. Probably the least thing we talk about in this country is mass transit and we need much more.

  • AdLib : Sally – Bikes are great and make so much sense when you’re just going a little ways. And as you say, horse “exhaust” actually has beneficial uses…unlike CO2.

  • KQµårk 死神 : I still keep on seeing charlatans trying to sell cares fueled by water now. Unfortunately the few cranks are spoiling a true possibility.

  • KQµårk 死神 : I think costs too will eventually create a H2 clean future because batteries do contain elements that will get rarer and rarer. Of course H2 technology uses fuel cells so you have smaller batteries too.

  • AdLib : KQ – Yep, and if someone could invent a device that could distill hydrogen from the air or water into an engine, it would be an earth-shattering development in the progress of human society.

  • SallyT : Here is Portland, we have gone back to bikes and trolley cars (lightrail)

  • SallyT : Yes, AdLib but their exhaust is good fertilizer.