down_20with_20thisNo, I don’t have a lisp and I wasn’t cursing.

Just a reminder that today is “Thank Huffington It’s Thursday!”. To help me with this reminder, I’ve brought my nephew, MadLib to join me in this post. Say hi to our members, Madlib…

“Hi.”

Madlib, why don’t you repeat that question you just asked me?

“Why?”

Uh…so everyone else can hear it.

“You already told me the answer.”

I know, I’m just asking you to repeat it for the nice people here.

“That’s okay.”

Madlib, please, as a favor to me?

“Uh-uh.”

It’s the whole point of this post. I just need you to ask it one more time.

“I don’t want to.”

You don’t–*deep breath*–Madlib, can you just repeat your question please?

“Make me!”

Look, you’re taking up these good people’s time and wasting all this page space, will you just ask the question again?

“I’m texting.”

Listen you little…okay, fine…then I’ll just join your Facebook page.

“NO!!! Okay…Uncle Adlib, why is this day different from all other days?

I’m glad you asked. You see, Madlib, this day is not like all other days because it’s the day we symbolize our torturous trek through the barren wasteland of Huffington Post to freedom. That’s why each Thursday, at 9pm PST, we begin a fast and don’t consume any pages from the Huffington Post until midnight PST Friday night. In this way, by our absence,  we also say to Huffington Post, “Let our moderated comments go!”

“Huh?”

Jesus! Can you stop texting for ten seconds?!

“I heard ya.”

Oh really? What did I say?

“Um…you’re going to EPCOT.”

Boycott! We’re going to boycott!!! And we’re going to visit Huffington Post all day today, until our boycott begins at 9pm PST, to invite folks there to join us here at The Planet on Friday!

” Yeah? So what about people who don’t want to EPCOT…boycott HuffPo? Ya gonna rag on them?”

NO! IT’S TOTALLY OPTIONAL! MEMBERS HERE SHOULD FEEL TOTALLY FREE TO BOYCOTT OR NOT! THAT’S WHAT RESPECT AND FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION IS ALL ABOUT!

“You sure yell and get angry a lot. You sure you shouldn’t be posting on Huffington Post instead?”

You want something to text about?! I’ll give you something to text about! Come back here!!!

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Khirad
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Aaaahhhhhhh! The main on HP is about Iran, people are saying the most ignorant things, and anything I try to say get sends to pending or is just scrubbed. Factual things, no keywords. Head-meet-desk frustration defined. Dumbshit mods. Sorry, needed to vent. I’m so thankful for this place. I know we need to develop our own thing here, but lord is it good to bitch to sympathetic ears.

Has anyone been navigating around from article to article and accidentally happened upon the main? That’s what happened. Sorry, but I’m a bit territorial and protective about my Iran threads and prefer them in the unassuming nook of the world section (even if I yearn for some help against the woo-woos whom are at it again today). The comments I was reading… and yet ‘I’ get sent to pending purgatory?!

escribacat
Member

Khirad, I tried to reply to your comment with the link to the pdf but it went off to pending hell as well. I’d like to hear your take on this. I don’t understand exactly what the charges are. As far as I can tell, this is all because Iran is considered a state sponsor of terror and they have determined that Melli Bank/ Iran own this building and these other properties. And that is the reason they were seized. Is that right?

Khirad
Member

I have to admit I didn’t recognize it at first, until I realized it had been renamed. It is what is known as a bonyad. One of the many Pahlavi-era orgs that were refitted and revamped for Revolutionary Islamic (and incredibly CORRUPT) purposes. I myself was going through my books – fortunately it has nothing to do with the New York building (actually a mansion, not skyscraper) which serves as their unofficial UN embassy HQ’s – which for some reason I had feared. Some more cursory information:

http://www.forbes.com/2009/01/02/alavi-foundation-clinton-oped-cx_re_0105ehrenfeld.html

(yes, I know it’s Forbes, but still. Nevertheless, don’t let that article near the rabid Clinton-haters, even though I have some questions there, myself)

The Mostazafen is notorious, and thus the renaming (which I should have taken note of earlier, quite frankly), might be seen as a rebranding

deygirl
Member

Completely off topic, but my dad’s name was Nirad– a lot like your screen name. Are you East Indian?

Khirad
Member

Na, nahii.n, unless you confer me honorary status for being a Bollywood addict.

Khirad
Member

Is that name Bangla, by the way? or straight Sanskrit?

KQµårk 死神
Member

I understand you frustration completely.

KQµårk 死神
Member

I understand you frustration completely.

The last article you wrote on Iran runs circles around the so called experts there.

johnie2xs
Member
johnie2xs

Well,I just got banned for the fourth time,from HP. I’ve been on as johnie2xs, masso435, masso427, and my last incarnation was jasper48. I ran out of e-mail addresses and obviously patience, having gone off on the Mods, heavily, and got bounced again.
I guess asking them to just tell me what they want me to say, by editing my submission, was a little harsh. Although,I’m sure my choice of verbiage may have had something to do with it, as well.
Ah, but fear not, I’ll still be there to harass them some more with a new name,1shamus1,and the use of one of my sons e-mail addresses. Just thought I’d share.

escribacat
Member

Well, congratulations. They say it’s a badge of honor. Have you tried gushing over Arianna?

johnie2xs
Member
johnie2xs

Is gushing a euphemism for puking?
Actually,I centered most of my contempt and bile for the moderators themselves. I found out early on that logic didn’t work, so instead I just savaged them.
They brought out in me a dark side I didn’t know I possessed. I really do not do well when someone tries to suppress my thoughts and ideas, as it happens. Who knew!

Corgi Lover
Guest

johnie2xs: You know that HP doesn’t check e-mail addresses. An imaginary one works as well as a real one. Why waste your time and privacy giving them a real one? So they may or may not send you an eviction notice or a threat?

johnie2xs
Member
johnie2xs

I haven’t had any blowback at my other addresses, and what can they do to me anyway. I’ve already been drafted,divorced, and audited by the IRS, so what could they possibly do to me that could be of any consequence.
I did try, however, to run a bunch of different names, as you’re suggesting, but couldn’t get any to work. Plus they sent a confirmation notice to my son, and had they done that with a bogus address, I might have been dumped that way. No biggy.I got a working name,”1shamus1″, with a picture of Mike Gravel for the avatar. I’ll see how long I last this time.

Kalima
Admin

That’s odd because when I joined there they sent a confirmation email to my email address.

johnie2xs
Member
johnie2xs

Sorry Kalima. It was 1:45 in the morning where I am (Fla), so I had gone to bed.Hope you didn’t think bad of me for not answering.
To your comment….
this last username I’ve set up with HP,I used one of my son’s e-mail addresses, therefore he got the notice.

Corgi Lover
Guest

Kalima: They don’t require any use of a confirmation login, and they do send out a welcome e-mail but they don’t seem to notice a failed delivery because this is my standard mode of operation over there now. A dozen plus in this way. Just saying..

escribacat
Member

johnie, your anger sounds very healthy. They’ve been screwing with all of us — just because they can.

Pepe Lepew
Member

I’ve found a dark side I didn’t know I had at HuffPost a few times. Mostly with troolies…

nicole473
Member

I had the same issue with them. I began ranting at them on fully modded posts, just wanting them to hear me. They definitely brought out my dark side!

I am now used to it, however, and since joining POV, I don’t post at HP nearly as often as I did.

KevenSeven
Member

Fuck those assholes. Hard.

johnie2xs
Member
johnie2xs

I see language like that in print, and I feel like I’m home. You know,It’s not that I want to use foul language all the time, it’s just that some words cannot be substituted for, no matter what their color. And no word, I mean none, has the punch, versatility, or ability to incite, like the word, FUCK.
For me, that would be like living without salt.
Don’t misunderstand and think that I will use it every other word…not so. I just like knowing it’s in the quiver.

Pepe Lepew
Member

You know what’s funny. I type “Putain” all I want at HP, and I never got in trouble for it … it never got scrubbed. I even tryped “Putain the Mods.” Even if people didn’t know what it meant, that made it pretty obvious what it meant…

nicole473
Member

Damn. I’ve fanned you under at least 2 of your incarnations. The fukking moderators make me want to annihilate them. grrrr……….

Just fanned your latest incarnation.

Keep the faith. 😆

johnie2xs
Member
johnie2xs

I noticed, thank you. And I fanned you back.
Solidarity, mon ami, solidarity.

Kalima
Admin

Oh, before I forget, your President is due to arrive in Tokyo today and we wiil be treated to an interview with a reporter from the NHK network, a sort of Japanese copy of the BBC of yore but much more stuffed shirt.

bito
Member

Kalima, Please attempt to tell the news about the visit that we won’t hear.

Kalima
Admin

I will do that of course, I’ll keep you posted.

KQµårk 死神
Member

Yes please do Kalima. You know how bad the media is in the states.

Kalima
Admin

I’ll keep my eyes and ears open, I still read a daily newspaper too. I think there will be a lengthy discussion about the U.S. bases in Okinawa, this new PM wants the troops to leave. There have been many attacks and rapes of young women by the U.S. military there, residents have been getting very annoyed over the last few year. One girl was only 14, it’s a problem.

Khirad
Member

Okinawa is one of those perennial issues if I recall correctly.

Anything still doing on the Japanese armed forces issue, as well?

Kalima
Admin

The last PM renewed the contract for another 10 years, the new wimp says out.

The Japanese signed a treaty after the war not to rearm, form an army or join in any combat, nothing much has changed since then and Japan will assist with support ships, financial aid and a Peacekeeping force but no actual combat. Germany signed the same kind of treaty after the war too.

Japan would only use force if it was attacked.

Khirad
Member

Right, I’d heard that the Lib Dems (I think) had wanted to revisit that post-war agreement in light of China and North Korea.

BTW, where would I fall in Japanese politics? I know I’m not a Liberal Democrat, Shinzo Abe struck me as real skeezy (I know there was one after him too). I don’t really know enough to comment on this guy. I’m embarrassed to say I know more about his wife.

Kalima
Admin

Well there you have just highlighted the problem Japan would have, China and Korea, if they formed a regular army. With the history and horrific past of the Japanese military and the stone-headed resistance of the previous 50 years of the LDP rule and their reluctance to formally apologize for past wrongs to these countries, Asia would not welcome a functioning army in Japan.

You have not missed much by not knowing about the previous PM’s here, they were all a bunch of weak-kneed wonders and crooks to boot.

Hatoyama is being investigated for not paying his back taxes, old crooks meet the new crooks.

KQµårk 死神
Member

Actually if all countries adopted the JDF model we would not have all these wars in the first place.

Khirad
Member

Right I saw it more as posturing regarding the military. China would never allow it, and it would need our blessing, I imagine.

For all those who complain about their own countries, it is nice to take a step back and realize pig-headedness isn’t just a US trait, etc.

The Japanese chauvinism to this day regarding China is breathtaking to me at times.

Kalima
Admin

The LDP continuously rewrote history books leaving out most of the horror as if it had never taken place, my hubby and I would be furious.

What Japan has is a voluntary Self Defense Force, they are highly trained with the latest technology but act only in an emergency here or would act if we were attacked. Their role on the world stage is strictly Peacekeeping and helping to rebuild a country, the Japanese people would never agree to let them be anything more.

Pepe Lepew
Member

OT, but I just read The Who is playing the halftime of the Super Bowl.
Or, as our Mexican exchange student this summer called them: “Crazy Englishmen…”

KQµårk 死神
Member

I would love for Rage Against the Machine to reunite and play for the Super Bowl but they would never sell out like that.

Khirad
Member

I’ve said it a million times, I’ll say it again. Why did they break up right before the Bush years?! To think of the material they had during a Democratic admin!

KQµårk 死神
Member

Tell me about it! The music and art community let us down as well during the Bush years. Most of the protests came too little too late. One of the few protest albums out there was the best album of the decade in my opinion, American Idiot.

Corgi Lover
Guest

I just want you guys to know that last night I came in to commune with you during the halftime of the Suns game only to forget about the rest of the game. This will not happen tonight! The Suns / Lakers game is a must see. No matter how much I enjoy being here.

bito
Member

Milwaukee Lakers by 5!

Khirad
Member

Even though I’m a Suns fan (of course), I root against the Lakers no matter what (same goes for USC in college football). Only dilemma I would ever have is if the Blazers play the Suns (to which I revert back to Blazers, but am happy either way).

Corgi Lover
Guest

Khirad: My years in the LA area made me a non-Lakers fan. Now the Dodgers are all right, but the Lakers, nah! And it took a little convincing about having Shaq on our team, but I was pleased with his performance and ethic here.

Khirad
Member

Yeah, got nothing against the Dodgers. The Big Cactus just didn’t work. I like the fast game as much as the temptation to have a big man underneath was thought to be the missing link to our success.

Unfortunately, I don’t know what we’ll do after Nash. Luckily for me, the Blazers are ascending. Oh, and did I say I always root against the Lakers? Well, not if they play the Thunder – go Kobe!

Mogamboguru
Member

I am out for the night.

Seeya tomorrow, folks.

Hasta la vista, babies! 😎

Kalima
Admin

Gute Nacht Mo, take care.

KQµårk 死神
Member

Night Mo take it easy.

javaz
Member

Talk about Republican hypocrisy!

http://rawstory.com/2009/11/gop-health-insurance-abortions/

“The health insurance plan offered to employees of the Republican National Committee includes coverage for elective abortions, a fact that could compromise the party’s insistence that abortion be left out of any health care reform measure.”

“According to several Cigna employees, the insurer offers its customers the opportunity to opt out of abortion coverage

Kalima
Admin

A classic description of the word hypocrisy javez, I hope it gets picked up by Rachel or KO. Those lying, thieving bastards need to have their noses rubbed in their own scheisse for a change.

Khirad
Member

Yeah I saw this. I don’t know what was better, this, or the Prejean spectacle on Larry King. Well, this is more serious, but that was damn entertaining.

bito
Member

Due to her tape, that was played in court. Shouldn’t she change her name to Carrie Sans-Jeans? 😉

Khirad
Member

That was inappropriate!

Mogamboguru
Member

But good! 😎

Kalima
Admin

I just sat through that drivel on my iTunes Podcast.

Conservative women like Mooseburger and Bachman being attacked? The Libs much more guilty of this than the Repugs, wtf, which cave has she been living in?

What on earth wasn’t appropriate with LK’s question about her reasons for settling?

I just wasted almost 30 minutes on this non interview, I need to clear my head.

Khirad
Member

I could have just sent you a link to the highlight at the end. I’m sorry you sat through it all. I’m so sorry for anyone who sits through that much of Larry King regardless of guest (except maybe Maher). The story here is that Larry grew a pair for once and pursued the line of questioning. I’m sure she was as surprised as me. Larry? You’re the fluff guy people go on to apologize for beating their wife, not a journalist (and not like this one instance redeems him, either).

My fave part: Palin and Bachmann are “brilliant” hahaha! That was almost as funny as the Palin Oprah interview where she said she “wasn’t into drama”!

Kalima
Admin

No probs, I was parked on my sofa anyway.

Yes, can you believe she said that Palin and Bachman were intelligent? brilliant?

I was having a Danish cinnamon with my tea and almost choked, thought about throwing the remainder at the screen but it was just too delicious to waste.

bito
Member

Nicholas Kristoff has a very good op-ed to day calling out the war hawks willing to pay for an expanded war (what deficit?) and not willing to pay for health care(My God– the deficit!!)
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/12/opinion/12kristof.html?_r=2&ref=opinion
Why is it we spend so much on killing and so little on helping? When there is any talk of cutting back on a defense contract, the hypocrites yell “Jobs, Jobs! When there is even a remark made out the “recovery act” it’s “That doesn’t work–Those aren’t REAL jobs”
more @ http://thinkprogress.org/2009/11/12/health-care-afghanistan/

KQµårk 死神
Member

What conservative principle are conservatives sincere about the last 30 years?

In reality they are not even principled about abortion. They had six years to do something about it but they don’t really want to stop abortions they just want to use the issue as a wedge. Hell the rate of abortions went up during most of Bush’s presidency, how come anti-abortion groups never called him a murderer?

It’s like blue dog Dems that fight the robust public option when it is more fiscally conservative and would cost people less.

bito
Member

They “hippo-critters” seem unable to quit. Calling out Acorn and ignoring Blackwater.

BigDogMom
Member
BigDogMom

Now that gets my goat, the amount of money we have spent on military contractors is enormous, we all know that healthcare would have been paid for.

But nooooo, they go after ACORN, once again it makes no sense…but then again we’re talking about the Conservative Autistics.

bito
Member

I do not find this conservative at all.
It is Neo. Whether Neo-Lib or Neo-Con.
Neo something. is that any where like Nero and his fiddling? “Nero-crits”?

BigDogMom
Member
BigDogMom

LOL

Mogamboguru
Member

Hi, bitohistory.

It may be, because the USA are no democracy anymore, but have become a fascist state during the past 30 years – says not me, but Naomi Wolf:

Fascist America, in 10 easy steps

From Hitler to Pinochet and beyond, history shows there are certain steps that any would-be dictator must take to destroy constitutional freedoms. And, argues Naomi Wolf, George Bush and his administration seem to be taking them all

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/apr/24/usa.comment

While this piece was written, while the Bush-cronies were still in power, it nevertheless remains only too true even today – if only, because president Obama made the mother of blunders, when he made the the mistake to leave all deciding perpetrators from the former administration in the Pentagon, as well as in the Fed, the Treasury and Wall street in power, when he took over.

“Fascism”, the italian fascist dictator Benito Mussolini once stated, “is the merger of the military and the corporations at the expense of the people!” And he really should know – because he INVENTED IT!

And that’s where we are today. That’s the harsh, ugly, undisputable truth. That’s, what the american society has become.

Ike Eisenhower understood that, when he warned America of the MIC. But nobody would listen to him – until now.

bito
Member

Hello, Mo, thanks for the link. I don’t know if I can be that extreme but then I live in the middle of the forest. It is often easier to see with fresh eyes from a distance.

Mogamboguru
Member

Yep – and there’s more:

A Fascist America

http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2005/03/04/a-fascist-america/

America hasn’t stopped being a fascist state, only because Barack Obama became president. The so-called “powers thatbe” saw to their survival suring the machinated crisis, which was staged to blunt his presidency from the onset.

Call me a conspiracist. But I believe that, from a certain level onwards, nothing happens only by chance, fate or incompetence. NOTHING.

These people know EXACTLY, what they want – and what they have to do, to achieve it.

This will gon on so long, until they have completely wrecked the system, like a swarm of locusts devastates your cornfied, before they move on – or, until you chase them off your cornfield again.

bito
Member

The MIC knows where the endless supply of money is: taxpayers. All they need is a really good boogieman for the people to be in fear of and willing to pay for it.

Kalima
Admin

😆 Did you ever find your nephew again?

Mogamboguru
Member

The tank is still half full, while the brat is still giving the highway-cops a high speed-chase on the interstate…

Kalima
Admin

LOL Evening Mo, are you settling in ok?

Mogamboguru
Member

Hi, Kalima.

Yes, Kalima, I am doing fine. I am getting better by the day.

But it’s still hard to resist the scissors in my head, telling me what to write and what not, or the .d.o.t.t.i.n.g. -.t.r.e.m.o.r., which is still catching me .e.v.e.r.y. .o.n.c.e. .i.n .a. .w.h.i.l.e….

😉

Kalima
Admin

This too shall pass. 🙂

Corgi Lover
Guest

adlib et al; I hope we can get some of our Arianna bashing out of our systems so that tomorrow if we get any new visitors we don’t get caught again looking like the only issue we have is Arianna. The debate and other activities will help, but let’s act like we are progressives concerned about progressive causes.

It’s for the good of us all. If anyone else can write anything tonight for release tonight or early tomorrow, that would be great.

BTW, I confess to being as bad of an offender as anyone else. And I don’t even like going there anymore. How will I get my Jon and Kate news? Or the new Huffington Sports section?

KQµårk 死神
Member

Aryanna I just can’t quit you.

Corgi Lover
Guest

I need a new income. Think we could start a PlanetPOV Center for Recovering Ariannics? We could provide them with all the online time they need in soothing, settling environments that are troll free and full of informative and educational content, plus the chance to make a real difference on real issues. And, it would only cost them $500 a day for the full treatment! Minimum stay, 14 days.

KQµårk 死神
Member

Yup and 12 steps won’t be enough.

Corgi Lover
Guest

KQuark: 13 Steps are good enough for most trolls, though. Especially since the rope and the short drop wait for them at the top.

BTW, not that I’ve ever needed a 12 step program, but I interface with people who help and counsel many who do.

KQµårk 死神
Member

Yes he walked the 13 steps to his just rewards via the hangman’s rope. We love OTR and the Black Museum is one of the best old shows. Almost every episodes ends with the 13 steps.

Pepe Lepew
Member

Yeah, one usually nice poster on HP called this site just an “HP hatefest” yesterday. I actually thought that was pretty unfair.

Corgi Lover
Guest

Any chance of a name or is that person involved in the personality frakus issue? Some of them really have an issue based on attendees here. So sad they can’t be more mature about people.

Pepe Lepew
Member

I think she has an interest….

Corgi Lover
Guest

That sounds positive so let’s not spoil it. We need more good people.

KQµårk 死神
Member

That’s probably it but you do have the Aryanna automatons too that think she is always right and can do no wrong.

Pepe Lepew
Member

The irony is, there was a lot of toxicity going on on that thread at the time…

Kalima
Admin

They should take a look at some of the other blogs where the tired and wounded victims of HP ended up. This is nothing yet compared to some, I know I was on one such site from March this year and we fought our demons for about a month, some still have the occasional “flashbacks.”

nicole473
Member

We are progressives concerned about progressive causes.

That’s why we are so upset by AH…….she could do progressive causes so much good if that was her intent, yet she is simply using the progressive banner to do harm.

BigDogMom
Member
BigDogMom

AH had to start somewhere, and during the campaign there was an opening for the progressive niche. So we start a progressive news blog. Marketing coupe.

Now the money and interest are in sensationalized news, so we go there…it’s all about following the almighty dollar for AH.

Like with so many others in MSN, it has absolutely nothing to do with personal principles, it’s all about market share and $$$.

BigDogMom
Member
BigDogMom

There’s always the TMZ website for your Jon & Kate news!

But what are we going to do without “The Game Changers”? I think AdLib or someone should do a parody on this, could be interesting…

escribacat
Member

LOL. Excellent idea, BDM.

javaz