Thanksgiving is less than a week away but here at The Planet, every Friday Night is a holiday from the week’s “adventures”.
As usual, we encourage members to give that other site the day off today though if you do go by there, please don’t hesitate to invite others there to join us today and tonight.
Right here at The Planet tonight, we will as always host a music thread to listen to and share lots of wonderful music videos with your friends and colleagues (as well as chat about anything and everything).
And also tonight, we’re excited to present the debut of “The Weekly Planet”, our live roundtable with humorous and thoughtful discussions of this week’s news, . It begins tonight at 7 pm PST on the page of the same name (which you’ll find under “Live Events” at the top of the page).
For your convenience, here is the link to “The Weekly Planet” page:
http://planetpov.com/live-events/the-weekly-planet/
As with Debate Night Live, the live chat system does give access to all Authors so we really appreciate your allowing just tonight’s guests to enter comments. After the event, we will move to a related post for everyone to chat about the event and the topics that were discussed.
Hope to see you there tonight, should be fun!
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Kalima
Khirad
KQuark
Holi Hai! (or Tha)
Blues Tiger
BlueStateMan
kesmarn
§$%&ß!
AGAIN!
Again I missed the Weekly Planet, although I spent the whole evening at the computer!
Adlib, please, please! Add a countdown-application on the frontpage, showing the time left, until the Weekly Planet will begin NOT IN LOCAL TIME, BUT IN A HOUR:MINUTE:SECOND-COUNTDOWN!
§$%&ß!
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Argh! Sounds as though I missed a great discussion on the death penalty. Got in later than I expected last night; and then, when I checked in here, I seemed to be having technical problems that made everything slllloowwwwww dowwwwnnnn. Finally–poof–my planet vanished entirely. I took it as a sign that it was time to call it a day. Sigh.
And–wouldn’t you know–it’s back to work today. Sigh x 2.
Have a wonderful day (evening), all Planeteers…
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A reminder that Morning Blog will be open for comments from 5am EST until 9am, when it will be moved to Speakers Corner for the day. Everyone is welcome, see you there.
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The slowness has finally gotten to me, and I’ve a book to get back to.
Gute Nacht.
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Gute Nacht Khirad. See you later.
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Me too. Good night.
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Me three, good night all….sleep well.
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Goodnight to both of you, the loading is slow.
Sweet dreams!
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Well, I’m out of here for the night. I’m getting slower than the server! Good night people.
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Night Monk, talk to you soon, sleep well.
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Well, I’m nodding off so I’m going to check out for tonight. Good night, everyone.
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Evening all, I see I missed the debate, once again….can’t seem to stay awake, 12:15 pm here in a very dark CT….how’s everyone?
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Hello, BDM.
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Hey e’cat, how’s the skunk smell, has it dissipated much?
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Hi BDM. Yes, it’s much better, though when I leave the house and come back it’s suddenly a lot more noticeable. I handled it better this time — last time it took weeks because I didn’t limit where the dogs could go and didn’t start treating them until the next morning (I didn’t have the right stuff). This time I knew what to do!
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Friends suggested using a plain douche, the vinegar in it cuts the smell faster, then bathing them with regular dog shampoo.
Have it on hand, haven’t had to use it for over a year, but the young one, Win, chased one the length on the yard last week, didn’t spray him, thank god…he’s such a noodlehead, didn’t know what he was chasing, the big guy, Rudd, just laid on the porch, probably said to himself, “Been there, done that”!
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Lucky you. I wonder why my knucklehead greyhounds didn’t remember that they got nuked in the face only a few months ago!
I have to laugh at your use of the term “noodlehead.” My ex BF used that to describe all the young white “rastafarians” (with dreadlocks) who live in the mountains around here during the summer.
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“Noodlehead” or “Noodles”, for short, is none too bright, he’s young, 15 months…The Big Guy, Rudd, got blasted in the face last year, won’t go out after dark unless one of us is with him. We have to stand on the porch and clap our hands before he’ll come down. Smarter than the younger one!
and yes that is a great discription of white rasta’s! Blondes I supose…
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Doing well, hope you are too. You can always pop over there to skim through it.
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I saw that, still a little confused on how you go on a live chat, maybe if I ever stay awake for the next one someone can walk me through it.
Hey did anyone see that Sister Sarah walked out in the middle of a book signing yesterday? the youtube video of the angry mob was posted at HP this afternoon.
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Lawrence O’Donnell covered it filling in for KO. Kofinis couldn’t keep a straight face!
Also, the montage of all the comedy bits this week on late-night had me in stitches.
I managed to fully boycott HP today as I’ve done except for like 3-4 weeks now, except for two special-interest articles once when this site was down.
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Nope, missed that (I rarely visit HP anymore). Angry mob of Dems?
Chat is easy, it’s closed now but when it’s open there’s a text entry box like the ones here for comments to add chat comments.
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Broke my Friday boycott, was bored this afternoon…here’s the link, not a word on MSM on it, gee wonder why?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8mAZhOJIfI
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Hello … is there anybody out there?
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Hello….
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Just us loons. Welcome to the Planet.
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Here, my friend.
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Yep, Welcome to the Planet, Benard!
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I don’t know if any of you know Brownforall, a nice young guy but prone to emotional outbursts, but he came back as GuardianForever, a chick, and I hit on her, uh, him. Then, ladynaga figured it out and exposed him. Was I embarassed. LMAO.
I tried to create another sock but was unable to get it through. I guess there is a way to do that, but I haven’t figured it out. If I ever get banned, HP will rue the day. I have access to three computers and I’ll create hell for them.
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I figured her out right away … because she was flirting with both AC and LadyNaga and BrownForAll always did that.
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Brownforall was hard for me to figure out for the longest time.
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Yeah, he seems a bit obsessive.
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That would be the right word. There’s another who is a bit of a spaz, too – I’m totally blanking on names tonight, oh yeah GOPsteals. The ones with the bad spelling and grammar always embarrass me a bit, elitist that I am. Still, if they make a good point or have a decent rejoinder here and there, I’ll fan them. I think they’re nice guys all the same, but can become a little bothersome.
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LOL. I’m an English major and this drives me crazy. I often correct the spelling of trolls just to be annoying. It’s a major effort for me to resist doing it to some of the leftie posters. There are some pretty bad ones! One guy I’m thinking of probably writes at about a third grade level — obviously sounding words out with *very* creative spelling. And these are pretty simple words too. Yikes.
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OMG – is not that urge to correct them powerful?!!
I love mocking the righties with atrocious English with suggesting ESL classes – no offense to those in ESL!
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LOL. That’s pretty good. I think I’ll use that one in future if you don’t mind!
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I’ve created several extra sox. You just need a new email address. Monk says it doesn’t even have to be a real one. Was that the problem?
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Yeah, I tried setting up Mr_Miyagi, but it didn’t get approved even though I used another email addy. I haven’t tried lately, maybe I did get it through. I’ll double check. But I guess that sock would have been a dead giveaway so maybe I’ll try another one.
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OK, here’s my techniques. Work MOST of the time.
I start out clearing out my internet cookies, ect on the browser. This is having started on a neutral page, like my search engine (which isn’t google)
Then I’ve already decided on a new sock name and password. Find an avatar which is interesting
Then I figure out “where” my location is, go to the USPS web site, and find an appropriate zip code.
Then I make up an imaginary e-mail address, something plausible, often g-mail or hotmail but also Qwest or Cox, for example.
Finally I go on and start the sign up process.
Another note: Do some commenting immediately upon signup or they seem to delete it.
It also seems to help if you go in initially with a bunch of innocuous comments that make you seem like an average user, even approaching trolls with semi-friendly comments like you’re the new kid on the block and don’t know what they are. I did this with Rami and AC both.
Lastly but very important, be random in just about everyhing.
And, if you can do your initial signup at a public connection, do so in order to not get hit by any ISP initial checks, although I’ve never seen any catches based on ISP that I could tell.
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Tonight’s discussion was very interesting when discussing the death penalty and Osama. Though I would want him dead if he’s not already, I wouldn’t favor giving him the death penalty, life in prison instead.
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I’m sorry I missed that part of the discussion. I have a direct example on why trying him is good for America. In the wake of post-election turmoil, Iran has recently sentenced five people to death, no names released, vague accusations like the “enmity towards God” (moharebeh ba-Khoda) thing, with no defense, in camera. Sorry, but nothing tells that regime to shove it up their ass like an open trial and the upholding of the TRUE American way – as the IRI is OBSESSED with Western hypocrisy. For anyone who doesn’t see that as plain as day, well, they have something stuck up their asses as well.
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I’m against the death penalty in principle, but I won’t shed any tears over a needle in KSM’s arm, either. This is one of those times, where while I could live with him suffering the rest of his days in supermax solitary easily, I’m not particularly opposed to state sanctioned murder for his level of atrocity. ‘Tis true that it’s a shame Obama has bloodthirsty ‘Murkans to assuage, preemptively undercutting them strategically, though. Lord knows we can never have a rational discussion about the visceral underpinnings of institutionalized vengeance.
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Khirad — that is one of the best arguments I’ve seen in favor of a civilian trial for these guys — not just proving to the IRI but to the world — and to ourselves — that we are still a nation of laws and not hypocrites.
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Yes, it just happened to dawn on me when on a thread dealing with the Iranian sentences earlier this week, but was meant to demonstrate a much larger point, as you say.
We often speak of our nation’s ‘moral standing’ in the abstract. It is useful to have a specific instance to drive it home.
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Your point is right on the money!
America is in the same category of Iran and Iraq BECAUSE we still have a death penalty, the only industrialized democracy to have one.
No, I won’t be protesting if KSM is put to death but I don’t agree with it.
As you say, if we are trying to distinguish ourselves as civilized, having official state sanctioned killings ain’t the way to go.
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Actually, you’re dead on (any pun so not intended) for bringing up the list of Death Penalty countries and our sorry position in it.
Whether or not we sentence him to death is not a concern to their hypocrisy barometer, though I’m sure its people would take notice.
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Death penalty is a tricky issue for me. I think it degrades the society who uses it, but in some cases….just off the bastard! I’m thinking people like the BTK killer and Ramon Salcedo (if anyone from CA remembers him). I think Osama’s already dead but if we found him, I’d say keep him alive — that would be worse for him. I’m not sure how I feel about executing KSM.
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I don’t think he should get the death penalty, that is what he wants, to go into AQ history as a martyr and symbol for future terrorists. He should get life without parole, then put into a max security slammer, isolated from the world for 23 hours a day, in a stark cell with nothing inside. Give him only one book to read, Going Rogue. That ought to make him nuts.
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LOL. No, make him listen to it on tape! Her voice is incredibly grating.
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You might have the ACLU get involved on that!
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Saw her interview with Billo the clown tonight, what a vapid person and your right, the voice would be considered torture.
Do we still torture?
Thank god for the edit button, not quite awake!
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Was he kissing her arse?
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LOL. Yeah, that’s a better idea. And feed him non beef bologna sandwiches every day, breakfast,lunch and dinner.
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Cruel and unusual punishment indeed.
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I totally understand and have the same feelings about wanting the human monsters out there to be taken out, if anyone in my family was attacked, you know I would want blood.
But blood rage aside, I think it is a natural but destructive instinct with in us that just wants to kill, it’s more primal.
I think we need to fight that impulse if as a people, we want to move forward. The problem is, you can’t have a society that says no one has the right to take another’s life and have a death penalty.
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I am genuinely torn about the death penalty. I’m not wild about it, not at all, but for some piece of scum like Joseph Duncan, yeah, there is a part of me that says, “screw it, kill him. He’s forsaken his right to exist…”
I dunno. It’s one of those things I can’t make up my mind about. See, I’m not a total bleeding heart liberal.
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I’m with you and escribecat. I have an opinion of the head, and one of the heart. I also would describe myself as someone who is 99.9% against the death penalty, but for some – and when there is iron-clad evidence, I just don’t care. I don’t particularly push for their death, I think we might learn more from studying them, and with AQ types to deny them their martyrdom at the hands of the infidel is even more degrading to them… but… I totally know what you guys are saying. Plus, with dictators like Saddam, as it was in old times, it prevents them from ever regaining power. I know the Bolshevik argument isn’t particularly progressive of me, and hey, I’m not saying to go after the whole family, but exile, at the very least, is a tricky thing when dealing with a mass-murdering dictator, as is locking them up with a sentence any shorter than life. I know one short guy who came back from a small island to become emperor.
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Good points. I was by no means in favor of the Iraq invasion, but I wasn’t sad to see the end of Saddam and his psychopathic sons — “Caligula and Nero.”
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Ditto on all counts.
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Yes, this is true. I know you are right! But there are still times. …
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Obama? Rush.
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Why, whatever are you referring to, sir? Heh!
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