Displaying 0 To 0 Of 0 Comments How it is that we get our butts kicked I agree with that – especially the tv news which is never going to go out on a limb about anything. Jon Stewart is my favorite commentator. » Posted By Athena On December 17, 2009 @ 5:12 pm A great image it is – Transylvania, I presume. » Posted By Athena On December 17, 2009 @ 5:07 pm Debate Night Live – Vote and Discuss! Bringing up Abortion is the right wing » Posted By Athena On November 13, 2009 @ 9:16 pm Bringing up Abortion is the right wing’s fall back position. They haven’t contributed constructive elements to the Health care debate so they want to change the subject. No ideas on curbing our rising health care cost and providing coverage to more, it is easier to change the subject to pro-life vs. pro-choice. It diverts attention from their lack of a concrete position about solving the healthcare crisis to the same old ideological debate over abortion. » Posted By Athena On November 13, 2009 @ 9:06 pm You are right, the time pressure to get statements posted AND respond to other post made everything hard to follow. » Posted By Athena On November 13, 2009 @ 8:56 pm I have reread the opening Pro/Con statements by KQ and KK. Neither one made a clear argument that specifically answered the debate topic. The debate topic was regarding the DEGREE OF COMPROMISE – acceptable or not acceptable. KQ was stronger in his con argument (i.e., the Democrats did not compromise too much. ) » Posted By Athena On November 13, 2009 @ 8:52 pm TO ALL MEMBERS: NEW PLANET FEATURES!!! Nice ideas for Planet POV – may I suggest it is time to change the video in the upper right corner. The GOP healthcare reform Music needs to be changed to something new. » Posted By Athena On November 11, 2009 @ 10:38 pm How it is that the Teabagger Movement is bogus I think KevenSeven makes a valid point about the teabaggers marching to get “their” country back. There is a lot of fear of the different in their platform. They feel the white majority rule slipping away after they have so carefully segregated themselves into white flight areas. » Posted By Athena On November 7, 2009 @ 10:23 am Your observations are right on the mark. Just like the jingoistic forwarded emails I have receive from a friend (one who is woefully misinformed) with pictures of US soldiers praying, etc. With the banner: One nation UNDER GOD, . . » Posted By Athena On November 7, 2009 @ 9:56 am Fight the intrusion of quackery and religious woo in health care reform I understand that we are over treated, over tested and over operated on by our current medical establishment, but I am continually dismayed by the “alternative medical crowd” who think that herbal remedies and homeopathic pseudoscience are valid. Why are so many opting out of vaccinating their children? The anti-medical establishment/pharmaceutical crowd is allowing themselves to be manipulated by the alternative medicine crowd! Who started this false idea that autism is caused by vaccines? No one ever said that vaccines had no risk, but come on people, driving your children around in cars has a much higher risk of harming the children than vaccines, and look at the immense benefit they offer. » Posted By Athena On November 4, 2009 @ 9:41 pm You make a valid point, KevenSeven. But what is a “schlong” exactly? Is it like a beer mug or motorcycle? » Posted By Athena On November 4, 2009 @ 9:08 pm Latest Shuttle Mission to Hubble Yields New Moments of Zen Looking at the images from the vast universe, the thought occurs that there must be many, many instances of “life”. How could we be the only planet where life forms have evolved? Will we ever connect? Earth will exist only until our sun burns out, but that is millions of years in the future. What will our species be like in two million years? We can be certain that the most intelligent life forms on other planets may be similar to Earth’s octopus, or snail, or tree frogs. (I have this feeling the chances of our neighbors out in the universe looking like us is the most unlikely factor). Anyway, always nice to contemplate the cosmos. » Posted By Athena On November 4, 2009 @ 8:54 pm AdLib, I like your post, Red White and Bull. Nicely written. » Posted By Athena On November 7, 2009 @ 2:51 pmComments Posted By Athena
I am disappointed that Obama isn’t declaring what exactly he will sign into law. Does that mean anything with Health Care Reform written on will be signed by him? Where does he draw the line?
I think the reason this Health Care Reform debate is so endless is because it avoids as much price control as it can. All who are feeding at the current trough of run away medical cost, must be allowed to continue. That seems to be giant flaw in the entire “reform”.
The initial debate period needs to be slower. Pro has 3 minutes to write, Con has 3 minutes to respond, something like that.
I never got a strong sense that KK was arguing that the DEGREE of COMPROMISE was so extreme that the bill was ruined. Other issues got tossed into discussion so that the arguments got very muddy.
They don’t understand much about this country’s history except that the wealthy and powerful always looked like them. The others (people with non-European heritage) needed to be segregated to the fringe of government and society. This somehow made them more secure. Fear of loosing this social order is at the root of this “movement” and their anxiety. I believe them when they profess that racism is not what the movement is about because they have nothing against the non-white as long as they aren’t in charge of anything. Black people are just fine in the abstract, but having a black President, or employer or bank CEO is another. Privileges slipping away has them fearful.
So anxious to claim the religious righteousness of our cause. The great irony is that the “one nation under god,..” is from the Pledge of Alleigence, a pledge composed long after our democratic founding documents, and the “under god” added during the cold war to draw contrast to the atheist communists. Reciting the pledge became a tradition long after the establishment of our democracy and would have, most likely, offended the Enlightenment principles of the founding fathers of our nation. There are endless examples of the irony in the Teabagger cause.
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