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The Brexit referendum vote in the UK, which resulted in telling the UK to leave the EU, was a little more complex than the core supporters of Brexit would admit. There were of course many voters who voted for it because they are xenophobes and racists but there appear to be many who voted for it out of ignorance, either deceived by the pro-Brexit propaganda or to “send a message”.

One can hardly sympathize with the “send a message” voters who, after the destruction to their economy, whined “I thought it wouldn’t pass anyway.” Now they want a re-do of the vote to “really” vote and while that would be a good thing for the UK and world economy, admitting you’ve been an idiot and used your vote to restructure the UK’s economic and political status like a thumbs down on a Yahoo comment, is not impressing anyone with showing someone worthy of getting to vote again in a do-over.

Of course, the MSM which has been co-financing Donald Trump’s campaign through in-kind contributions of billions of dollars in free airtime, was quick to try and re-inflate the sagging Trump campaign by parroting that this proves Donald Trump could win the Presidency.

No, it doesn’t.

There are big difference between the UK and the US (and not just the windshield vs. “windscreen” crap) in demographics, politics and the fact that Donald Trump is not an organization of sovereign states that our country belongs to (yet).

To begin, there is little question that the core Brexit voters want to leave the EU because of their anger at immigration (and out of resentment that Germany doesn’t have a leader with a small moustache). These core voters, not too dissimilar from Trump’s core voters, are markedly racists, poorly educated, more rural, more elderly and look goofy when wearing baseball caps.

Oh, and did I mention they’re white? Really, really, really white?

The UK is 87% white and known for being very provincial (IOW, anti-immigrant). That’s a huge base to try and gain a majority from, especially in the current global environment of the wealthy robbing the 99% of their standard of living and pointing at the “others” as the phony cause for that.

Though there were high profile supporters of Brexit including ex-London Mayor Boris Johnson and UKIP Leader and Antichrist groupie, Nigel Farage but they were not the ones being voted for, it was a vote on a referendum that had been wholly propagandized.

The fact that Johnson and Farage and the Pro-Brexit movement lied hugely to the public to get it passed is similar to Trump’s compulsive lying but similarity does not mean things are identical (I drink water and my dog drinks water but only one of us humps people’s legs…but I am going to therapy for it).


  1. DEMOGRAPHICS – The UK has a white population of 87.1% (AKA “Whitetopia”). The US has a white population of 63.7%. So the pool from which white racists could slither out of is much smaller as a percentage. On the Brexit vote, the “Stay” supporters had an uphill battle along the way because their arguments were primarily intellectual. They tried to invoke fear of economic harm if Brexit passed but compared to “Them immigrants are stealin’ our jobs and women!”, it is a cold and intellectual argument. However, in the U.S. Presidential race, Trump’s attacks on just about everyone but older, white, uneducated males  has emotionally energized women, Latinos, African Americans, Muslims, Asians, etc. to register and get out and vote. Polls show Democrats very enthusiastic about voting for Hillary while they show Republicans unenthusiastic about voting for Trump. When it comes to getting out the vote, this is a critical advantage for Dems in most all demographics.
  2. VOTING FOR A REFERENDUM VS. A PERSON – People in the UK voted for and against a policy which itself, has no character, personality or fake comb over. People in the US will be voting for a person to become President. It’s not a binary vote of “yes” or “no”, Americans will be choosing between two people, comparing the two and voting in a combination of who they like and who they dislike. Also, (unlike Brexit) Donald Trump already has a negative rating among 70% of the population, many Republican politicians  and voters are refusing to support him and there’s even a movement within his party to deny him the nomination at the convention. While there may be many independents who support the anti-globalism Trump blathers about disingenuously, they won’t vote for him to advance it if they hate him.
  3. DIRECT VOTE VS. ELECTORAL COLLEGE – Sometimes, as the quote goes, the masses are asses. Unfortunately, tyrants and tyranny can rise by whipping up the public into a populist furor (or Fuher) and winning a direct vote. One reason The Founders instituted an Electoral College in U.S. elections was to protect our democracy from such a situation. So, does it really matter if Trump is polling nationally close to Hillary? Does that mean he can pull a Brexit? No. Just because Trump may excite racists to turn out in huge numbers in a red state he’s already going to win, it changes nothing. In Presidential elections, it is about winning states, not voters nationally. So national polls are just informational about trends but otherwise have no relation to how much of a landslide or nail biter a Presidential election will be. As it is, counting strongly Democratic and Republican states, Democrats begin being close to winning in the Electoral College from the start. There are swing states that need to be won but few need to be won by Hillary, many need to be won by Trump. Hillary could lose most of them but if she were to win a state like Florida, it wouldn’t matter if she lost other states, she’d still win. Trump has to run the table and with a 70% disapproval rating and the polls reflecting the enthusiasm advantage very much in Hillary’s favor, that is highly unlikely to happen.
  4. VOTING TRENDS – PM David Cameron was very cocky when he guaranteed the Brexit vote, as a ploy to win what he thought would be a tough election and rally pro-Brexit Conservatives to support him. The polling trends though began moving bit by bit towards pro-Brexit, especially after the Syrian refugee crisis and the Paris attacks by ISIS. Those trends continued to favor Brexit and it was a struggle for Cameron to steer opinion against it. Trump on the other hand is experiencing an ongoing negative trend in support (from his own party as well as others). What’s very interesting is that in most primary races while the GOP Primary was still competitive, undecided voters flocked to Trump’s opponents by wide margins. Trump seems to be the kind of candidate that, the more undecided voters see of him, the less they like him.

So in the end, despite the MSM’s insistence that Brexit proves Trump could win, that’s not the case. Yes, any candidate could win any race, even someone with a 99% chance of losing has a 1% chance of winning so it’s not impossible for Trump to win.

But it is not more likely because Brexit passed in the UK. In fact, polls released since the passage of Brexit show Hillary with a growing lead over Trump (I guess it didn’t look so good for Trump to be applauding the crashing stock markets and Pound while on the world stage, trying to spin it as beneficial as an incentive for wealthy people to fly to his golf courses in the UK and make him richer…and how do the folks in Florida feel about losing tourists to their golf courses?).

It may instead be that the cautionary tale that is the pro-Brexit vote, how it has destabilized the nation politically and economically…and will continue to play out as a disaster over the coming months…may convince many of the (unbelievably!) undecided voters in the U.S. towards the Hillary side to avoid boarding the Trumptanic.

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Folks, just FYI. The now Home Secretary in Britain, Theresa May is in the running for Prime Minister. Why do I mention this? Because, although 10 years younger than me, she is an “old girl” (alum) from my school in Oxford! Yikes. I would still never vote for a Tory in a million years.


Hello, Fergie, yes I saw that this morning and said a quick prayer. I have nothing nice to say about May, except when she gets flustered she panics, makes huge mistakes and tries to cover them up. Hardly the person now needed to clean up and organise the Brexit mess left behind by Cameron, Johnson and Hitler-lite, Farage.

Under her control, asylum seekers, unforgivably many children, were treated like criminals and some even died. Her border patrol was a shambles. Human rights were abused. I have no respect for this woman. If she can’t even keep the borders safe, what on earth could she do for the rest of the country?

I see a flash election coming before the end of this year.


I can’t believe what has happened. Britain is suffering economic PTSD as we speak. It wouldn’t happen in the US, the demographics are against it as is the culture (for want of a better word).
One thing that inflames me is the absolute and utter cowardice of both Cameron and Johnson. Where is the ‘If You Break It, You Own It’? They destroy the UK and creep away to let Someone Else sort it out. Pathetic cretins, both of ’em.

Maybe we could suggest a solution for both the US and the UK – send Don The Con and nominate him for Pry Minister. He’d be YUUUUGE and the best in the world for the job.


No thanks, ppo, there are enough dickheads running around loose as it is. The British people voted against something they didn’t understand just because Cameron was for it. That was stupid, many regret it, but they would never be stupid enough to vote for a horror like trump. Almost 2 million of them actually wanted him banned from the country, and in his self promotion trip to Scotland, he had tight police security that I think he should pay for himself.

Maybe you can have him? He did send emails to Australian politicians asking for campaign funding after all.

Trump in my neck of the woods would be pelted with rotten tomatoes, and something worse I’m sure.

The line up for the next PM look like entries for The Gong Show. Each of them has screwed the British people on healthcare cuts, Hunt, education “reforms”, Gove, military cuts, Fox. All I can say is what a bloody nerve these conservative twits have. Scandals roll off their backs like dirty rain water. Conscience is a word they never learned to spell or understand.


There is a world of difference between voting for something you believe in and voting for something you are frightened of. The end results can be disastrous. The English are learning that lesson the hard way. What is amazing though is reading posts by Trump clones applauding the disaster. Do they know it is their 401’s that are losing value, sure isn’t Trump. The average citizen in the UK have lost about 20% of their buying power in less than a week, the rich could care less, if you have a million or so it hurts on paper, if you have a hundred it hurts a whole bunch. Sometimes that old expression; ‘cutting your nose off to spite your face’ is true and this is one of those times. Vote Trump and lose, even the republican controlled Chamber of Commerce agrees.


No, I don’t think trump can win in a similar way because while the U.K. and Europe chose austerity, the American v oters chose President Obama who along with congressional Democrats, stopped the Republicans from implementing the same brutal agenda in the U.S. There are 65 million people in the U.K. compared to over 350 million in the U.S. most of whom are not anti-immigration. Of those 65 million, only 45 million of the population in the U.K. were eligible to vote.

The republican scare tactics of the msm are deplorable as is the comparison to the Brexit farce in the U.K. The Caneron government is to blame for the decision to leave while the president has been fighting as hard as he could to improve the lives of Americans, not destroy them. I find the comparison rather insulting to President Obama, but what else is new?

The vote in the U.K. was about hardships imposed by the Tory government as too many Brits had no idea what the EU even was or did. Yes, some were about immigration but what they don’t know about many immigrants from Europe is that some corporations send people to Europe to find workers and bring them back to work in the U.K. paying them very low wages, providing inadequate housing, and leaving them adrift in the country once the work is completed. So the meme “they are stealing our jobs” is the propaganda of monsters like Nigel Fararge and the Tory xenophobes to strengthen their own platforms and have dissatisfied voters crossing over to them.

The hardships in the U.S. are the direct result of repub legislation in repub controlled states. Most intelligent repubs know that. Like the U.K. there are the haters and racists who will vote for trump because he enabled them to come out of the closet and gave legitimacy for them to be open with their hate.

The U.K. Is now facing verbal abuse of anyone with a different skin colour, some actually citizens born there, and hate crimes.

What bothers me is the lack of unified outrage from both the politicians and the general public. The U.K. may have voted to leave but until they do they still have to abide by EU rules and laws, among them, hate crimes and human rights.


Brexit: Wave of hate crime and racial abuse reported following EU referendum


With trump’s falling poll numbers, and some repubs crossing party lines to vote for Clinton, I don’t think that a GE can be compared to a misguided decision to leave the security of the EU.

According to BBC sources, about 3 million people now want a second referendum because they realise they have been lied to by xenophobic Tories, and “Nasty Little Nigel” the racist and bff of the European extreme Far Right nut jobs like Le Pen and Geert Wilders. Both not welcome in the U.K. because of their hate speech.

As Farage stood like the jerk he is, insulting the EU parliament, all I could think of was the skinheads in the 70’s roaming around the streets insulting foreigners, and in some cases trashing their businesses and causing grave bodily harm. I know about these extremists because we were almost attacked one night leaving a London Tube station while they screamed insults against my Asian husband, and threw insults at me for being with him. We were lucky to find a Bobby at the exit, some were not. It has started again, and I fear for the country that once was my home. Knowing that this man had unleashed this horror again, I wanted to weep.

I have hope that the majority of American voters are against everything trump stands for, and will vote accordingly.

As usual, AdLib, you approached the issue with the clarity and understanding that will never be seen in most news sources, and so-called expert opinions. Thank you as always.


Hey Ad. I wouldn’t say a Trump win is impossible, but I do think it’s highly unlikely. He’s starting to unravel already, and the general election season hasn’t even begun.

I don’t believe any candidate can alienate that many voting blocks and still win a general election. Women hate him, Latinos hate him, immigrants hate him, the LGBT is not too crazy about him, and he has a bad rep with veterans. That’s a whole lot of people to piss off and still expect to win.

That said, I still think dems need to come out in massive numbers to vote for Hillary so we can win by a landslide. The GOP needs a severe ass kicking, politically. They need to be humiliated to the nth degree.