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Promise and Problems

Where else do you write? Your material should be more widely shared. I am going to share it at Yabberz.com another news blog.

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On September 1, 2014 @ 7:30 pm

I just left you a response to your fine work. The system only alerts you via e mail when a response is left to a reply. So check near the bottom of the replies. SOOO well done.

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On September 1, 2014 @ 7:27 pm

I have been caught up in a number of things for the past several days and am SO pleased to have read your thought provoking post here.

I worked in the inner city in a high school that did great work. I worked at a university that was known for its outreach to families where college had always been out of reach.

The lives of “kids” from troubled neighborhoods and of their families are very complex and the neat narrative that the media takes from the police or from activists or from clergy or from business people or from….is simplistic.

You have provided several stories here that speak to complexity and to the subtlety of response that the narrative requires (like the theater group).

You remind us of the everyday heroism of families that fight the streets and sometimes lose in a horrifying tragedy.

Please write more here…you always have something of importance to share with us.

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On September 1, 2014 @ 7:24 pm

Help Us Test Drive Our New Chat System!

Can’t get on at Firefox at all.
I get the small screen with the names of whose there but no big chat screen in Safari.
Google Chrome Next.

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On August 25, 2014 @ 3:30 pm

Living With What You Have Done .

How do we teach our children that murder is wrong, and then send them to war where they are taught that, just for a time, murder is right?

Right on the mark.

I do not doubt that war is sometimes the last ditch effort in defense of a greater peace, but so often it is the result of error, greed, power hunger, meglomania and we subvert our young as instruments of our will.

Look at what is happening in the middle east right now.

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On September 2, 2014 @ 11:04 pm

Just left you a comment in reply to your post. The system does not notify you if get a comment to a post but it does when you get a reply to a comment. So heads up. Powerful post. It struck a chord and I went looking for the bell it rang.

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On September 2, 2014 @ 7:19 pm

I read this a while back…

On Killing: The Psychological Cost of Learning to Kill in War and Society.

by Lt. Col. Dave Grossman. Back Bay Books: Little, Brown, [1995, hb] rev. ed. 2009. 377 pp., pb, ISBN 978-0-316-04093-8

During WWI and WWII research (done after WWII when concerns about kill rates were voiced in the permanent military establishment that arose from the ashes of that war to face the Cold War), the compunction against killing occurred a lot in close combat situations, including aerial dogfights where pilots could see each other. It did not prevail with killing at a distance by artillery or bombing from airplanes.

Grossman spent years researching the innate resistance to killing and efforts to overcome it by armies throughout history–previously a taboo topic. After WWII, this became a topic of great significance. He tells of desensitization, operant conditioning, and psychotropic drugs that raised to 90 percent the proportion of U.S. troops who shot to kill in Vietnam.

The cost of this was high. The high incidence of PTSD among our three million Vietnam veterans follows disinhibition compounded by unprecedented unit instability and rapid return home from the front. He also points to loss of support at home for the war.

Given your experience….and previous posts here this makes sense.

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On September 2, 2014 @ 7:17 pm

Try the New Vox Populi Tonight! Live Chat About the Week’s Events!

Found the “Chat” Button at the menu and clicked it….nothing.

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On August 22, 2014 @ 7:06 pm

Trying to get on. Clicking “Join the Chatroom” noting happening.

I do not see the “Chat” button.

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On August 22, 2014 @ 7:04 pm

Police and Body Cameras

KT….what a very direct, simple, and so well timed comment. Excellent.

I know an officer who was opposed to his force adopting them and now says: “I feel a lot safer with my cam and so does the public.”

His force has a message on the side of their cars: “Smile, your on Candid Camera and So are We!”

They have had the same experience you describe: They act better and so does the public. Complaints against the police have been cut in half since documentation is so easy.

AND, in an e-mail he sent met shortly after the shooting in Ferguson told me: “The Chief Just announced that they are phasing in a system whereby the office can live broadcast sight and sound with a push of a button on his person or in his car. They are even looking at voice activation with a code phrase. Of course, we quickly figured out that if could activate live broadcast from our end, then the communications center could activate our cameras as well. It is invasive, no doubt. It is also really a good idea. We don’t have partners riding with us so this is the next best thing.”

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On August 24, 2014 @ 10:22 am

Completely agree. I know an officer who was opposed to his force adopting them and now say: “I feel a lot safer with my cam and so does the public.”

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On August 24, 2014 @ 10:13 am

In Pittsburgh there are two cameras, front and back, and they follow the officer as he/she moves. They also have collar cams at the top of their vests. Your suggestion reflects what is in the process of being done…good thinking.

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On August 24, 2014 @ 10:11 am

Ferguson Police Force Deployed to Iraq

remember those two bozos at the store a couple of days past….can I volunteer them for an advance force…..

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On August 22, 2014 @ 6:59 pm

Great minds…and all of that…doncha know!

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On August 22, 2014 @ 6:58 pm

I would like to think that this really is a heavily armed Barney Fife syndrome….but…

I had lunch today with a senior deputy in the sheriff’s department in a nearby county who was a Missouri “big city” police officer and a trainer in their academy. He is 61. He had many insights that I need to gather. I told him that I would like to create an on-line article based on his reflection. He said he was fine with that as long as I shielded his identity. So I am going to work on it. Basically he says that current SOP’s have institutionalized a lot of bad practice which is amply illustrated by both the Ferguson office who did the shooting, but also the treatment of the crime scene afterwards, of the town’s people in the aftermath and of the crowds. Bad policing.

Not isolated. Not uncommon. In fact, the model for contemporary policy in the USA.

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On August 22, 2014 @ 6:57 pm

Precisely what I gathered from the interview.

Thanks for the reply.

I had lunch today with a senior deputy in the sheriff’s department in a nearby county who was a Missouri “big city” police officer and a trainer in their academy. He is 61. He had many insights that I need to gather. I told him that I would like to create an on-line article based on his reflection. He said he was fine with that as long as I shielded his identity. So I am going to work on it. Basically he says that current SOP’s have institutionalized a lot of bad practice which is amply illustrated by both the Ferguson office who did the shooting, but also the treatment of the crime scene afterwards, of the town’s people in the aftermath and of the crowds. Bad policing.

I hope to get it together in the next day or so.

Your article has gotten some nice attention at Yabberz. I wish you also published at DK.

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On August 22, 2014 @ 6:55 pm

From http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/14/us/missouri-ferguson-police-tactics/

Retired Lt. Gen. Russel Honore knows a thing or two about this kind of thing, having been dispatched to New Orleans in 2005 to lead recovery efforts after Hurricane Katrina. What authorities in Ferguson should have done, he said, is have “front line policemen” to face protesters, not a SWAT team.

His judgment: you’re in trouble when your SWAT team is on the front line of dealing with a civil disturbance.

“The tactics they are using, I don’t know where they learned them from,” Honore said Thursday on “CNN Newsroom.” “It appears they may be making them up on the way. But this is escalating the situation.”

Josh Weinberg, an Army veteran who focuses on security issues for the Truman Project, contends that police sometimes do “need high-powered weaponry” and other tools to go after “up-armored” and heavily armed criminals.

Veterans critical of police response

Josh Weinberg, an Army veteran who focuses on security issues for the Truman Project, contends that police sometimes do “need high-powered weaponry” and other tools to go after “up-armored” and heavily armed criminals.

“It’s really scary,” he says.

But that doesn’t mean the way Ferguson police used some of that equipment made sense, he argues.

Videos showed “a bunch of guys on top of an armored personnel carrier,” Weinberg said. “When we’re rolling around in Afghanistan and there is a threat of being shot, you don’t sit on top of an APC. That defeats the purpose.”

Weinberg says it’s unfair to the military to call what happened in Ferguson evidence of “militarization,” saying U.S. soldiers are well “trained in escalation of force.”

The police apparently “had their weapons up and pointed at protesters who are obviously unarmed,” he said. In the military, he learned that “your force posture matches the threat. You only raise your weapon if there is a threat that requires lethal force.”

With a pointed weapon, Weinberg said, “you could make a mistake, maybe get startled, put your finger on the trigger and shoot somebody who doesn’t deserve to be shot.”

And threatening people unnecessarily can increase the tensions and danger, exacerbating the situation, he says. “A crowd kind of has a mind of its own that develops over time, depending on what threat they perceive.”

Weinberg isn’t alone. “As someone who studies policing in conflict, what’s going on Ferguson isn’t just immoral and probably unconstitutional, it’s ineffective,” Army veteran Jason Fritz wrote on Twitter. Fritz is now senior editor of War on the Rocks, which analyzes national security issues.

His was one of the tweets included in a storify being shared widely online Thursday morning, with this line at the top: “The general consensus here: if this is militarization, it’s the s***iest, least-trained, least professional military in the world, using weapons far beyond what they need, or what the military would use when doing crowd control.”

In another, author and former Marine logistics officer Jeff Clement wrote: “Our (Rules of Engagement) regarding who we could point weapons at in Afghanistan was more restrictive than cops in MO.”

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On August 22, 2014 @ 2:30 pm

Hi there I just linked this story to Yabberz – https://www.yabberz.com/

My intro: “This is Very Funny…linking Iraq, ISIS and the Ferguson PD…is no easy trick but Ad Lib from PlanetPOV did it. Enjoy and then ponder. Ad Lib’s funnies are meant to provoke considered response.”

NOW, for a real challenge to ISIS, let’s also send a battalion of sharpshooting Patriots from the Bundy Ranch standoff to engage ala the SEAL and Rangers…that’s who they pretend to be….

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On August 22, 2014 @ 1:54 pm

EDUCATION IS THE KEY!

I sent the URL for your comment to the teachers I mentioned.

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On September 4, 2014 @ 4:15 pm

Hi Monica Angela…I am late getting to your fine post on education. There is a new, longish comment for you at the site. I do this because the system does not notify you of comments to posts, only of replies to comments. It was very well done. I have passed it along. MTS3

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On September 2, 2014 @ 10:43 pm

What an interesting exploration of “education” in its global sense. I read it twice….you describe an ecology of learning that is quantitative and qualitative….impressive and impressing.

Parent, child, teachers, neighbors, friends, family all involved in the process of learning

Educate, as I suspect you know, comes from the Latin “educere” – to lead out- Out of what…the common symbol for education was the lamp of learning…thus to lead out of darkness.

Surely this is our hope for each other…

I have a number of teachers who were my students who still communicate with me and their tales of woe in regard to their schools, their student and their families is heart rending.

The growing emphasis on teacher meeting goal objectives as measured by rote testing, of form filling and endless meetings, of accepting abysmally low standards for students from lower middle and lower socio economic strata as the best that can be done coupled with an absence of curiosity about the wider world and far too little engagement with the world of ideas has been a disaster for education as the leading out of darkness into light.

Indeed, one of my former students, now in her mid 40’s and a very well liked and respected teacher whose high demands are in keeping with her challenge to students that they measure up their own hopes and dreams for themselves told me last week that she feels like school boards are turning off the lights for so many and that the goal is to create a large class of the “unknowing” because they are so easily controlled – so easily manipulated.

I sent her a copy of your vision statement. Thanks for it.

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On September 2, 2014 @ 10:40 pm

Undermining ISIS on Five Fronts- The Emerging Strategy

I am not explaining it away. I offer two sources that make it clear that the Snowden piece is a total fabrication.

NOW…if you want my agreement the U.S., Israel and a number of European powers have connived together in all kind of schemes….you got. It is just that this was not one of them.

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On August 22, 2014 @ 6:07 pm

The video you left is from 1991.

The Inside Story of the U.S.-Israeli Covert Relationship: Money, Mossad, and the CIA (1991)

This is a C span program.

I can see a connection IF the first part of the submission, the supposed Snowden claim, is true.

As I note, it seems to be a hoax- origin. Iran.

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On August 22, 2014 @ 4:52 am

This appears to be a hoax.

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/aug/19/blog-posting/edward-snowden-leaked-nsa-documents-show-us-israel/

Closing Paragraph
“Middle Eastern publications have been circulating a rumor that Snowden’s NSA leak reveals “Operation Hornet’s Nest,” an American, British and Israeli plot to create the Islamic State to destabilize the Middle East.

This isn’t the first time Iranian publications have mischaracterized the Islamic State as an American creation, but it is the first time Snowden’s name has been attached. Sources with access to Snowden’s documents have directly refuted the hoax. The Islamic State started as an al-Qaida offshoot, and there’s no reason to believe otherwise.

We rate this claim Pants on Fire!”

http://time.com/2992269/isis-is-an-american-plot-says-iran/

Concluding paragraph

“Why IRNA had to concoct something so obviously fictional as a fake Snowden interview to bolster the narrative is still unclear. Even Shariatmadari, editor of Kayhan, is mystified. “I thought this interview was strange too, because all this happened after Snowden had access to those documents,” he tells TIME. Nonetheless, he ran the story on his front page as well.”

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On August 22, 2014 @ 4:43 am

Which is why I agreed to a different wording. The figure of 10,000 is the one that emerged out of Syria, the forces fighting Assad. Clearly it has grown since entering Iraq. But by how much? Thu my alternative wording which you are free to put into place. I have a new favorite quote a former Marine who is a current friend. He is from a Pakistani family that came to the U.S. when he was 15. The guy has a gift for languages and he spent time in both Afghanistan and Iraq….he was a “community relations officer”. I wrote this down: “Conquerorers, even those with the best of intentions, eventually fail because they are not OF the place which they now occupy. They cannot even communicate except through intermediaries….much less think and feel as native people do.” I think Obama and his crowd know that and believe it.

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On August 21, 2014 @ 11:11 pm

I generally trust the Guardian. I have seen the 10 to 15 thousand figure as well and it might well be more accurate.

What I am reading is that the 10,000 might have been an accurate number when they were just in Syria, but they seem to have grown significantly since.

The Daily Mail offers a similar analysis: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2669218/ISIS-doubles-size-one-fell-swoop-merges-al-Qaedas-15-000-strong-Syrian-offshoot-border-Iraq.html

I would be ok with the lower number as long as it was accompanied by a statement that “there are reports that the size of the force may have grown significantly since the invasion of Iraq when ISIS began to recruit aggressively among the Sunni population there.”

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On August 21, 2014 @ 8:20 pm

I knew a marine, still do, who was from a Pakistani family that came to the U.S. when he was 15. They guy had a gift for languages and he spent time in both Afghanistan and Iraq….he was a “community relations officer”. I wrote this down: “Conquerorers, even those with the best of intentions, eventually fail because they are not OF the place which they now occupy. They cannot even communicate except through intermediaries….much less think and feel as native people do.”

and that is why we cannot be the ones on the ground.

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On August 21, 2014 @ 8:02 pm

The numbers vary widely. Here is one that uses 30,000 – 50,000.

“The number of militants now fighting with the Islamic State, according to a recent estimate by Dr. Hisham al-Hashimi, an expert on the group. Many former Iraqi Army soldiers have been forced to join and others have been recruited from around the region and beyond.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/11/isis-iraq-numbers_n_5659239.html from http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/07/40000-iraqis-stranded-mountain-isis-death-threat

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On August 21, 2014 @ 5:46 pm

Very welcome. Thank you for making the connection…I had not…..today’s middle east look much more like the Arrakis of Dune than it did in 1966 when Herbert published his first volume of the saga.

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On August 21, 2014 @ 3:36 pm

Now to respond to your ideas about the current situation.

Your ideas are creative, interesting and applicable but no matter what is done it must be done at the local and regional level and not be us or our allies.

I knew a marine, still do, who was from a Pakistani family that came to the U.S. when he was 15. The guy had a gift for languages and he spent time in both Afghanistan and Iraq….he was a “community relations officer”. I wrote these words of his down: “Conquerorers, even those with the best of intentions, eventually fail because they are not OF the place which they now occupy. They cannot even communicate except through intermediaries….much less think and feel as native people do.”

That is something that George HW Bush understood and it is that knowledge upon which he acted in the Gulf War- a military intervention that I regard as a textbook model for how to do this kind of thing well.

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On August 21, 2014 @ 3:21 pm

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