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Against Their Own Self Interest: Missourians Likely to Vote to Hurt Themselves

You are correct. Obama was correct. And the reaction to his statement was as angry as it was because it hit raw nerves (since it was true). It is true here.

Most of those who are GOP today would have been Democrats prior to the mid 60’s when the Dems became the party of civil rights. Their parents and grandparents fled from the Democratic Party as race traitors.

That memory lingers and it is not a good one.

At its root their belief in the GOP is fundamentally irrational.

Church-Family-Patriotism-Republican

They are melded together. And the TV news of choice, as you say…Fox, along with the internet right wing zone, reinforces the message shaping current event to support their voting the “right way.”

I see this again and again.

AND, one of the “niftiest tricks” is to actually find creative ways to blame the Dems and their Demon Leader for a lack of health care for ex. “We GOP want good health care for all of our citizens but we have been saddled with this job killing, socialist death panel monster.” And because they are disposed to believe, because the narrative fits what they want to be so…then it is so.

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On October 16, 2014 @ 3:14 pm

Most of those who are GOP today would have been Democrats prior to the mid 60’s when the Dems became the party of civil rights. That memory lingers and it is not a good one.

At its root this is fundamentally irrational.

Church-Family-Patriotism-Republican

They are melded together. And the TV news of choice, Fox, along with the internet right wing zone, reinforces the message shaping current event to support their voting the “right way.”

I see this again and again.

AND, one of the “niftiest tricks” is to actually find creative ways to blame the Dems and their Demon Leader for a lack of health care for ex. “We GOP want good health care for all of our citizens but we have been saddled with this job killing, socialist death panel monster.” And because they are disposed to believe, because the narrative fits what they want to be so…then it is so.

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On October 16, 2014 @ 3:09 pm

You are correct.

This is fundamentally irrational.

Church-Family-Patriotism-Republican

They are melded together. And the TV news of choice, Fox, along with the internet right wing zone, reinforces the message shaping current event to support their voting the “right way.”

I see this again and again.

AND, one of the “niftiest tricks” is to actually find creative ways to blame the Dems and their Demon Leader for a lack of health care for ex. “We GOP want good health care for all of our citizens but we have been saddled with this job killing, socialist death panel monster.” And because they are disposed to believe, because the narrative fits what they want to be so…then it is so.

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On October 16, 2014 @ 3:05 pm

Dear Trolls: Yes, I do think Barack Obama is a Very Good President and Here is Why

Welcome to the Troll Whacker Club – I should not that I whack all trolls, on the right or left…I am a bipartian/nonpartian troll whacker.

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On September 22, 2014 @ 9:02 am

Scottish Independence? A Push Back Against Conservatism Threatens the UK

and now Salmond is out….

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On September 19, 2014 @ 6:22 pm

I was please with the result.

I am also pleased with devolution.

And now devolution is probably going to include Wales, Ulster, Scotland, England. A smart move.

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On September 19, 2014 @ 6:21 pm

I have friends in Scotland who say that in the last week the question of Salmond’s motivation has become commonplace so perhaps the thoughts you share here are the thoughts of others in Scotland.

I agree with your analysis of the reality that geography imparts in decisions like this one.

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On September 18, 2014 @ 8:16 pm

The questions you are asking are the ones emerging in the last few days especially as applied to things like currency, stock trades, pensions etc. AND growth potential.

So, it seems that Scotland will vote NO as the steam in the Yes campaign appears to have run out…

I favor the UNITED KINGDOM for many reasons (economic, historic, social, nostalgic) but I also favor federated state concept ala Canada. If Scotland votes NO, devolution plus (transferring significant tax-raising and welfare powers from Westminster) heads us in that direction, but devolution max (leaving Westminster controlling only defense, foreign affairs and possibly taxes such as VAT, levied on purchases, and national health insurance but turning over to Edinburgh corporate taxes, air passenger duties, total control over income taxes, and more welfare powers) puts the pedal to the metal.

Two very pro Yes regions appear to have said NO in the vote. If that trend continues then it will be no to independence/seperation

For more see: http://www.ibtimes.com/if-scotland-votes-no-new-promised-powers-will-have-be-wrestled-angry-conservative-mps-1691457

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On September 18, 2014 @ 6:17 pm

Separatist movements are alive and well in a number of region in the U.S. but Texas does stand out since its own governor made that suggestion in 2011.

Whether Scotland would have fared well or not is looking like one of those things we will not know for the time being as it looks like Scotland will be voting No.

I favor the UNITED KINGDOM for many reasons (economic, historic, social, nostalgic) but I also favor federated state concept ala Canada. If Scotland votes NO, devolution plus (transferring significant tax-raising and welfare powers from Westminster) heads us in that direction, but devolution max (leaving Westminster controlling only defense, foreign affairs and possibly taxes such as VAT, levied on purchases, and national health insurance but turning over to Edinburgh corporate taxes, air passenger duties, total control over income taxes, and more welfare powers) puts the pedal to the metal.

Two very pro Yes regions appear to have said NO in the vote. If that trend continues then it will be no to independence/seperation

For more see: http://www.ibtimes.com/if-scotland-votes-no-new-promised-powers-will-have-be-wrestled-angry-conservative-mps-1691457

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On September 18, 2014 @ 6:12 pm

I favor the UNITED KINGDOM for many reasons (economic, historic, social, nostalgic) but I also favor federated state concept ala Canada. If Scotland votes NO, devolution plus (transferring significant tax-raising and welfare powers from Westminster) heads us in that direction, but devolution max (leaving Westminster controlling only defense, foreign affairs and possibly taxes such as VAT, levied on purchases, and national health insurance but turning over to Edinburgh corporate taxes, air passenger duties, total control over income taxes, and more welfare powers) puts the pedal to the metal.

Two very pro Yes regions appear to have said NO in the vote. If that trend continues then it will be no to independence/seperation

For more see: http://www.ibtimes.com/if-scotland-votes-no-new-promised-powers-will-have-be-wrestled-angry-conservative-mps-1691457

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On September 18, 2014 @ 6:00 pm

The GOP Refrain: Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi (But Never 9/11)

I do not recall this person but I will be most pleased to meet him or her.

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On September 19, 2014 @ 6:30 pm

They are.

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On September 19, 2014 @ 6:29 pm

It is and their base buys it all.

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On September 19, 2014 @ 6:28 pm

They are back.

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On September 19, 2014 @ 6:27 pm

The symbols are back to thumbs up away.

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On September 19, 2014 @ 6:27 pm

and now are we at the start of another round of war for fun and profit?

I hope not.

Congress ran for the hills.

The president does not SEEM (cuz I do not really know) really pressing for REAL commitment from regional powers.

We have spent 80 million on ordnance so far- A merry christmas for some maker of devastation.

Your list brings it all home.

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On September 19, 2014 @ 6:26 pm

Correct on both counts.

The rules do not apply to Dems.

and

The Dems were accomplices.

BUT they were unwitting accomplices.

Bush and his cadre…knew the truth and hid it.

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On September 18, 2014 @ 8:10 pm

I notice that the thumbs up and down option is gone from the reply windows too. Hmmmmm….gremlins.

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On September 18, 2014 @ 6:33 pm

Knowing you wanted to give me 10 is good enough. Thanks. Demons and Gremlins in the machines. I have twitter but not facebook. I thank you for your good words.

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On September 18, 2014 @ 6:32 pm

52 embassy attacks and 15 domestic acts….I am very serious about the need to press the GOP on 9/11 again…that is the REAL scandal of the last 15 years at the root of the many scandals of war in Iraq and Afghanistan.

P.S. good to see you at yabberz

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On September 18, 2014 @ 6:30 pm

And 9/11 was one of about 15.

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On September 18, 2014 @ 6:27 pm

They have to create scandal to cover their own failure to engage in responsible government.

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On September 18, 2014 @ 6:27 pm

Bush was so focused on Iraq, in his mind his father’s unfinished war, and his desire to become the Reagan of his time by stabilizing and westernizing the Middle East and making inroads into Asia.

It was not to be.

But he allowed himself to be misled by some of his closest advisers because he really wanted to believe them.

And the result? Costs beyond imagination then, now and into the future.

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On September 18, 2014 @ 6:25 pm

Could Electing Hillary in 2016 Assure a Republican President in 2020?

Just left you a late reply to your excellent essay on Hillary and the Perils of 2020.

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On September 22, 2014 @ 12:13 pm

Late to the Party….

1) I worked in 4 states for the Obama Campaign AND the idea of electing a black candidate to the WH WAS a very important current within the campaign for many reasons BUT it was not THE current and that is the most significant critique I have about the Clinton Campaign.

People were drawn to Obama for many reasons. His policy positions, his life experience, his personality, his family, his vision AND his race were the mix that drew in the crowds and created the stir that was expressed as enthusiasm and then as zeal. Fired Up. Ready to Go. Why?…..a long, long list.

2) For Hillary the enthusiasm is generated largely, is many cases almost entirely, by gender.

3) She does not feel genuine to me. I do not trust here. Her policies- well he is femaleBill in most of them, maybe a bit more right wing on interventionist policy and a bit more left wing on Wall Street. Her social policy is very dem, and largely very progressive. But, she is such a pragmatist I wonder what she would be willing to deal away.

4) One thing is correct- her people know that there really is NO GOP candidate out there that I would vote for because even if the had one I could support, he/she is part of a party I do not trust at all.

AND, they know that people like me know that Third Party Candidacy are La Manchan efforts that usually end up screwing things up (often for the very people and ideas that you support the 3rd Partier for).

SO….I am going to spend more time thinking about your 2020 argument…there are nuances there that deserve more reflection.

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On September 22, 2014 @ 12:12 pm

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» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On September 2, 2014 @ 7:05 pm

I was half joking. Stamps would have been my next suggestion followed by bartering.

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On September 2, 2014 @ 6:58 pm

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» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On September 2, 2014 @ 6:14 pm

Thank you, Kalima, for all of your hard work and dedication to the Spirit of the Planet.

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On September 2, 2014 @ 3:28 pm

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Particular greetings and salutations to

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Left you all a gift and I urge everyone to do what they can to support this terrific oasis of sanity, civility, and hilarity.

» Posted By MurphTheSurf3 On September 2, 2014 @ 2:52 pm

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