Scottish Independence Day

EDINBURGH, Scotland (AP) — Anger at the Conservative/Tory Dominated British Parliament (an anger that goes back to Maggie Thatcher’s Days), a culture that is as much Scandinavian as it is English, AND the lack of creative alternatives (such as a Canada-like federation) have created a situation which could chop away 1/3 of the UK, change NATO and the EU, and mark another degradation of the once glorious Empire over which the sun never set.

Scots hold the fate of the United Kingdom in their hands Thursday as they voted in a referendum on becoming an independent state, deciding whether to unravel a marriage with England that built an empire but has increasingly been felt by many Scots as stifling and one-sided.

The question on the ballot paper is simplicity itself: “Should Scotland be an independent country?” Yet it has divided Scots during months of campaigning, and polls suggest the result is too close to call.

A final Ipsos MORI poll released Thursday put support for the No side at 53 percent and Yes at 47 percent. The phone survey of 991 people has a margin of error of plus or minus three percentage points.

For a slightly humorous overview….

More at this excellent story exploring the deeper causes and likely impact of a separation.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/09/18/1330471..

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BREAKING NEWS

Scotland to reject independence – BBC

Scotland will vote to stay in the United Kingdom after rejecting independence, the BBC predicts.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-29270441

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Scotland rejects independence with No vote set for victory

Estimated 55% of voters set to reject Alex Salmond’s prospectus for independence with more than half of results declared

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/19/scotland-independence-no-vote-victory-alex-salmond

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Wanting independence and wanting growth, vitality, and self governing power seems to create a conundrum. Can small countries maintain the viability they want on their own? I guess it would depend on how entangled the asset/wealth/potential is. And I don’t know what their situation is but these would be the first questions to ask. I would, in my mind, be more satisfied if England has concessions and consequences. Being occupied is never quite what the occupier ever understands. it’s not the same two way street

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When you have a leader who is taking advice from Rupert Murdoch, his new BFF, you know you are in trouble and greed won’t win the day when you stand to lose your membership to the EU, NATO, the currency, the NHS and no one to bail you out of the financial mess that is sure to follow. Who wants to visit Scotland with a visa and a passport? If they want to play golf they can go to Hawaii, the weather is much warmer and at least people smile a lot. 😉

In case anyone wants to follow.

Counts start in Scottish referendum

Polls close and counting is under way in the referendum to decide whether Scotland should stay in the UK or become an independent country.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-29263022

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Scottish Referendum result

Video, audio and text coverage through the night as the referendum results are announced in each of Scotland’s 32 local authorities.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-scotland-29130277

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Murph, I don’t know enough about this to make a comment. The USA got its independence a while ago from the England and we seem to have done pretty well until lately.

Remember that Texas has wanted to leave the US and become a separate country, too.
Would that be so bad? We would have a buffer between us and Mexico. Hmmmm?

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