Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events, begins tonight at 7:00pm PDT. Hope to see you then! AdLib 3 hours ago
Hey PPO! AdLib an hour ago
If at first you don’t impeach, try, try Trump again. AdLib an hour ago
Hi, Ad! How goes it in Ca? pinkpantheroz an hour ago
All is well this way. How are things out your way? AdLib an hour ago
Hey glenn! AdLib an hour ago
Apparently there is a clause in the Con that BLOTUS ccan be banned from politics altogether, and it only needs a senate majority. So that’s available. So, of course are all the criminal indictments…Bring ’em on. NOW! pinkpantheroz an hour ago
Howdy, Ad and PPO. You all doing okay? glenn an hour ago
So we can agree that the GOP is now a terrorist, criminal mob, right? AdLib an hour ago
PPO–Ban him! glenn an hour ago
hiya glenn. Doing OK – just. Melbourne is in Lockdown for 5 days. Crowds excluded from the Tennis pinkpantheroz an hour ago
Ad–oh, for sure. They’re not even paying lip service to the rule of law; the rules of the Senate–i.e. Senators meeting with the defense team; nor are they interested in facts. Cowardly, treasonous, anti-American cretins–all of them. glenn an hour ago
PPO – Yep, that’s the 14th Amendment Article 3, any elected official committing sedition or…giving aid or comfort to those committing it can be barred from holding office in the future. This is what’s needed after the corrupt Repubs let a traitorous Trump off the hook to do it all over again but worse. AdLib an hour ago
Ad, has there been a vote yet? All the news here is about our COVID outbreak pinkpantheroz an hour ago
PPO–Oh dear. Hang in there; hopefully, this, too shall pass. glenn an hour ago
PPO–No vote yet. Maybe tomorrow. glenn an hour ago
Ad–exactly. Schiff told repubs the RTLB would do it again if they let him off last year. Sure enough, he did it again; this time only worse. glenn an hour ago
Yeah, glenn, someone in an airport coffee shop who shouldn’t have been there. quick tracing, but our great Premier (State Gov,) is being cautious. pinkpantheroz an hour ago
We had a power failure last Saturday, which clobbered our Air Conditioning/heating! Partly fixed Thursday, but part needed for heater. at least the air-con is OK, but we worry about the repairmen observing hands, distance and masks. No one has been to our house in a year. pinkpantheroz an hour ago
All well my way, glenn. How did your tests turn out? AdLib an hour ago
yes, glenn, how went your tests? pinkpantheroz an hour ago
glenn – Which is why their BS call for “unity” was so obvious. The GOP is just a criminal enterprise now. AdLib an hour ago
I know it’s a moot point; but it sure sticks in my craw that repubs just shrug off the fact that the RTLB did NOTHING to stop the insurrection. He let it go on until he got tired of watching it, I guess. Yet, remember how outraged repubs were during the Benghazi hearings when there was all that nonsense about not sending help and “stand down” orders? Repubs were outraged; outraged, I tell you, because there was no help sent, and the help was 2-3 hours away by plane. Yet, right down the street from the White House, the RTLB watched with glee as his blockhead supporters trashed a government building and tried to murder his vice president! And yet, repubs are “yawn”. glenn an hour ago
They need to be RICOed. AdLib an hour ago
No vote yet, PPO. AdLib an hour ago
Ad, glenn, Hillary had him pegged in the debates! He will never change. pinkpantheroz an hour ago
Sorry to hear that, PPO. Hope it’s fully fixed ASAP. AdLib an hour ago
Ad, apparently the DOJ are examining RICO-ing The Proud Boys – alla of ’em! Good. pinkpantheroz an hour ago
Hey Murph! AdLib an hour ago
OK…made it…took a few minutes. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
hiya Murph! pinkpantheroz an hour ago
PPO–I think the quick tracing is the way to go, along with caution. Glad to hear you have air con glenn an hour ago
glenn, It is sorely needed this week, 30 plus forecast and high humidity. Yeuch! pinkpantheroz an hour ago
Howdy all….I wrote a piece for several facebook based private groups about what Trump did and f ailed to do once the riot started with the thesis that this alone is enough to impeach him…dereliction of duty….failure to fulfill the duties of the commander in chief…boy did that narrow focus piss off folks on the right…..Yeah I post at a Trumper site…makes their eyes bleed. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
glenn – This is why I think most Americans need to see the GOP as an anti-American terrorist group. They oppose democracy and the rule of law. True enemies of the people. AdLib an hour ago
Ad–My biopsy turned out negative; I do not have the eye disease they thought I did. Still don’t know what caused the double vision and headache, though. Also, don’t know if I told you or not, but it was suspected I had gall stones (a totally different issue) and the ultrasound on that turned out negative, also. So, I had all these symptoms, but don’t know why. Will be doing a bunch of blood tests next week, so we’ll see if those turn up anything. I’m just a mess. glenn an hour ago
Murph, keep socking it to them, even though they probably won’t believe a word that hasn’t been issued by the Mobsters at Fox. pinkpantheroz an hour ago
PPO – Yep, great that they’re looking at RICO for Proud Boys but with a little further investigation, they should RICO the GOP. AdLib an hour ago
Hey Murph! glenn an hour ago
Glenn….good health news but also not good…..an undiagnosed bolder around your neck….. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
Ad, they would probably need a whole new RICO departemnt for all that! Help the employment figures – a Twofer! pinkpantheroz an hour ago
PPO…Fox is now moderate….One America News and News Max have taken the road to the right… MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
Did everyone see the new breaking news, when McCarthy phoned Trump in the middle of the siege and asked Trump to stop it, Trump snickered, “I guess they’re more upset about the election than you are.” AdLib an hour ago
And Trump refused to do anything to stop them. AdLib an hour ago
Murph, I don’t have cable, so Fox never seen. But I see enough of Hannity and Carlson reaction tweets to believe that Fox won’t change much until they are outed. pinkpantheroz an hour ago
Ad and the McCarthy said: “Who the fuck do you think you are….” but that moment of courage and truth passed and his real nature as a scared little piece of vermin reasserted itself and he crawled to Mira Lago beggin Mr. T for his blessing and donor list. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
Murph–good on ya! That’s what I keep going back to. The RTLB let those people trash the Capitol building and almost kill his own vice president; yet he gets a pass. I just don’t get it that breaking the law is okay if you don’t get what you want. Talk about IOIYAR! His tweet at the end when he said something like that’s what you get when we don’t get our way is such an admission of guilt, and as you say, dereliction of duty. glenn an hour ago
glenn – That’s good news that it wasn’t disease but now comes the frustration of trying to figure out what it is. AdLib an hour ago
PPO…and H and C are mild when compared with those on the other channels. Narrower and more rabid. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
Murph–exactly. Since I don’t know what caused the double vision and the gall bladder symptoms, don’t know how to prevent it from happening again. glenn an hour ago
BLOTUS isn’t Pres any more, so why isn’t McCarthy and the GOP telling him to eff off and try and repair their trashed image somehow, if that is at all possible. pinkpantheroz an hour ago
Ad–Another admission of the RTLB’s guilt. How can you be president of the United States and take pleasure in lawlessness? glenn an hour ago
Murph – All the same, you can bet The House Managers will bring up that McCarthy-Trump convo tomorrow to prove further Trump intended and perpetuated the sedition and violence. AdLib an hour ago
Ad–Yeah, I’m afraid I’m in for a lot of medical testing before it’s all over. glenn an hour ago
BRB MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
PPO–Because they’re afraid of what the RTLB’s base will do to them in the next election. It’s not about doing what’s right; it’s about staying in office. glenn an hour ago
What’s fascinating is that as Trump’s image becomes more and more toxic, as he loses more supporters, the GOP is staying tied to him. Trump is sinking like the Titanic and they are choosing to be pulled down with him because his cultists are the base of their party. The GOP has been overrun by the walking dead, no turning back now. AdLib an hour ago
Hopefully, glenn your tests will finalise the treatments you need. Fergie has to wait till end March to see the specialist about her right heart failure, COPD,Scoliosis and Uncle Tom Cobbley’s syndrome! pinkpantheroz an hour ago
Ad–The House Managers need to keep pounding that over and over again. The RTLB had no intention of stopping that insurrection; it’s exactly what he wanted; which is essentially what he told McCarthy and what he tweeted at the end, when he said “That’s what you get”. glenn an hour ago
And Tuberville has confirmed that he told Trump on the phone that Pence had just been evacuated for his safety and that was before Trump posted his attack on Pence. AdLib an hour ago
glenn, If he forms a new party, wouldn’t that be the kiss of Death to the GQP? pinkpantheroz an hour ago
I am back….we are having a mega freeze here….single digit temps 8 days is what it is going to last….and then we are going to have three days of heavy snow….a lot to get ready for…. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
Honestly, I think Trump would have been ratified if Pence had been killed. AdLib an hour ago
PPO..you and fergie are walking a rocky and steep road….your faithfulness is an inspiration. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
Ad, Pence’s SS detail surely told BLOTUS’ SS detail of their movements. Trump knew and did nothing, because Pence didn’t annul the election for him. pinkpantheroz an hour ago
Ad–I agree. I just keep shaking my head watching these silent repubs as every day it becomes more clear that the RTLB wanted to commit sedition; actually committed sedition; and has absolutely no remorse about committing sedition. Yet, there are too many repubs who are never mentioned in the press, who are just staying silent. I keep hoping that they will have an attack of conscience and speak up, but I guess they’re all too far down the rabbit (trump) hole now. glenn an hour ago
Trump didn’t call or talk to Pence during the siege nor for 5 days. He wanted Pence dead for not obeying his dictatorial demands. AdLib an hour ago
murph, simply, she is my life. pinkpantheroz an hour ago
PPO–Hopefully. And hopefully for Fergie, too. My best to her. glenn 44 minutes ago
The last of the Trump flag displays in my area went down yesterday….last night at the bar..one the big Trump fans said….” Trump is acting like a loser….I can’t believe it.” MurphTheSurf3 44 minutes ago
PPO – And Trump’s lawyers flat out lied today in an impeachment trial in The Senate, saying Trump didn’t know that Pence was being hunted. Usually, it is a hard and fast law that any lie in COngress by anyone other than a member is a crime. AdLib 44 minutes ago
Thanks, glenn. wishing you a speedy solution and recovery. pinkpantheroz 44 minutes ago
How can Pence keep his silence….(and that silence does say a lot)? MurphTheSurf3 43 minutes ago
Murph, I can see you quietly smiling to yourself and saying not a word, which must drive them nuts! pinkpantheroz 43 minutes ago
glenn – We always suspected that the GOP was an evil enterprise but their support for inciting an insurrection against the U.S. put an exclamation mark on that. AdLib 42 minutes ago
PPO….yeah, that’s me….sitting quietly in the corner sipping my cup of weak tea….not on your life….I guffawed…… MurphTheSurf3 42 minutes ago
PPO–If the RTLB forms a new party; it could be the death of the GOP. However, I don’t think the RTLB will form a new party. First of all, he doesn’t have the political savvy to do so, nor do any of his “advisors”. Look at how incompetent their administration was. I think he’ll just keep threatening, bluffing, because that is his M.O. But actually doing the work and effort it takes to form a new party….no way, IMO> glenn 42 minutes ago
Murph,
pinkpantheroz 41 minutes ago
PPO – Pence’s aides have come out today to state that Trump DID know Pence was running for his life and released that attack tweet against him with that knowledge. AdLib 41 minutes ago
PPO…I knew an Aussie would get my weak tea reference. MurphTheSurf3 41 minutes ago
Murph, I’m Irish! but i get it! pinkpantheroz 40 minutes ago
Murph–your weather forecast sucks! glenn 39 minutes ago
glenn, what you say makes sense, so why is the GQP persisting? rhetorical. pinkpantheroz 39 minutes ago
AND Glenn Dr. T the RTLB is going to be running from his pursuers….the law, debt collectors, and the many who now really tell the truth about him. MurphTheSurf3 39 minutes ago
I think that after this, the GOP will continue to shrink, at least gradually, and be seen by the majority of Americans as an adversary of America, democracy and law and order. AdLib 39 minutes ago
PPO….I thought you were from down under? No? Ireland…..the weather opposite of the world. MurphTheSurf3 38 minutes ago
Ad–You think the insurrection would have worked if Pence had been killed? The repubs would have had the nerve to overturn the election? glenn 38 minutes ago
glenn – Agreed, Trump was only using the threat of starting a new party to extort Repubs into voting not guilty in the trial. The real question is whether Never Trumpers go so far as to try and start another party. There’s no home for them now though they are welcome to vote with Dems. AdLib 37 minutes ago
Ad, sorry to say I doubt it. All they need to do now is to yell ‘Socialism’ at every Dem proposal. they will still get traction with the poor dumb buggers that still believe their crap. pinkpantheroz 37 minutes ago
Murph–poor, brain dead RTLB fans. The RTLB is not only acting like a loser; he is a loser! glenn 37 minutes ago
A little side trip into COVID land….Mo. my beloved state is 50th in the USA, dead last, for its distribution record for COVID vaccine……I joined a campaign to recall both our U.S. Sen. Hawley and the governor for rank incompetenece. MurphTheSurf3 36 minutes ago
Murph, Irish/Australian. Born Dublin, migrated 1974 to OZ. Naturalised, but still have deep roots! pinkpantheroz 36 minutes ago
glenn – No, I think the insurrection would have failed in any case…as long as the National Guard and military didn’t join in. Had Pence been killed, Trump would lie and say Antifa did it, declare Martial Law and send his secret police and National Guard out to arrest and kill “Antifa” while declaring that in this national emergency, he needed to stay in office. AdLib 35 minutes ago
If the VP dies in office who steps up to take his place…….that person would serve as the presider of the senate…. MurphTheSurf3 35 minutes ago
Murph, that fool Hee Hawley is dangerous. please recall him asap! pinkpantheroz 34 minutes ago
Loads of people of color and protesters would have been murdered in the aftermath of Pence being killed, Trump probably would have declared the Insurrection Act. AdLib 34 minutes ago
If Pence dies…doesn’t Nancy Pelosi step into the role…she is next in the line of succession. MurphTheSurf3 33 minutes ago
Murph – The President would pick his new VP if his VP died, right? AdLib 33 minutes ago
Ad–I absolutely cannot understand repubs. The RTLB was willing to let his own vp be killed! I just can’t understand why the RTLB is not facing criminal charges, nor why he isn’t locked up in Gitmo. Grrrrrr! glenn 33 minutes ago
Murph – I don’t think that’s how it works, succession is only for the POTUS. AdLib 33 minutes ago
With you in that anger, glenn. WTF? pinkpantheroz 32 minutes ago
Ad..the VP has to be nominated and confirmed…who is VP pro tem? MurphTheSurf3 32 minutes ago
Ad…interesting question. MurphTheSurf3 32 minutes ago
glenn – If you think of the GOP as a cult with Trump as their cult leader, who they will follow no matter what he does, it makes sense. AdLib 31 minutes ago
Ad–Evil enterprise indeed! And, once again, the party of “law and order” is willing to break the law and the Constitution to stay in power. Patriots, all of them! glenn 31 minutes ago
Murph–good luck with the recall. However, incompetence is a feature of the GOP, not a bug. glenn 30 minutes ago
Murph – “The responsibility for nominating a person to replace Spiro T. Agnew as vice-president belongs to Richard M. Nixon. Once Nixon chooses his nominee, the new vice-president will take office after being confirmed by a majority vote in both houses of the Congress.” AdLib 30 minutes ago
Law and Order! Ignore the Law and follow my Order, more like, bbut now we have a loving, decent reasonable couple in the WH spreading love and healing. pinkpantheroz 29 minutes ago
Have you all heard that rooms at the Trump International in DC are going for 800 a night for the nights up to and including Mr. 22….the day the REAL PRESIDENT steps into his second term. I kid you not. MurphTheSurf3 29 minutes ago
Ad…but who took on Spiro’s role until Ford was confirmed….the president pro tem of the Senate? MurphTheSurf3 28 minutes ago
glenn – The other important thing to know about the GOP and Trump is that every claim they make to flatter themselves, being in favor of law and order, worried about voter fraud, trickle down economics, everything they claim as a credit to them is merely a lie that says the opposite of what they know they really are. AdLib 28 minutes ago
Murph, I heard $8,000! (99% Discount for Proud Boys, etc..) pinkpantheroz 28 minutes ago
PPO….cheap at twice the price. MurphTheSurf3 28 minutes ago
Ad–Could your scenario of the RTLB staying in office happen? Is it constitutional? I mean, after seeing what he was willing to do I don’t doubt that he would try something like that; just not sure he would be able to pull it off. However, with the complicity of the repubs in the scenario we are now working in; it is possible. Thank goodness we avoided that at least and have Biden in office. glenn 27 minutes ago
Ad…are you suggesting the GOP do not “Love their Police!” MurphTheSurf3 27 minutes ago
Murph – Yep, heard all about the latest, desperate Q-BS. As each lie about Trump re-taking power falls apart, Q followers buy into even more ridiculous conspiracies. And Qanon just pivots from one phony prediction to an even bigger phony one. Sorry, Q followers are morons, cultists and morons. AdLib 25 minutes ago
I hate the huge time differences. I have to wait until Tuesday here to find if the BLOTUS Family have had charges laid and bail set! pinkpantheroz 25 minutes ago
Here is an example of the way the Biden admin is taking care of business….we have not had a farm agent in my county for four years and without one there are a lot of services we cannot get to…….there is a meeting next week with our new agent….a local who everyone respects. MurphTheSurf3 24 minutes ago
Murph – Good question. Not sure how that gap is filled with a VP gone and not immediately replaced. AdLib 24 minutes ago
Ad–a cult is the only thing that makes sense. It just blows my mind that supposedly intelligent people can buy into this vile, evil man’s agenda. No matter how much you try to rationalize it to me; I will never in a billion, trillion years understand. glenn 24 minutes ago
Well, sorry folks, got to depart early. Fergie need her hair cut before her shower, so i’d better get to the scissors! See you all next week. pinkpantheroz 23 minutes ago
PPO–Exactly. Lovely to see the First Couple out on the lawn today with loving messages! glenn 23 minutes ago
G’day PPO. Love to Fergie! glenn 23 minutes ago
ciao, will do pinkpantheroz 22 minutes ago
glenn – In that scenario, as long as the military didn’t support his coup, it would fail. The only way a coup can succeed is with a nation’s military on board. So while I think it would have been madness and possibly very deadly, if Trump used the death of Pence to declare the Insurrection Act and martial law, it would be a battle to drag him out of there but the military would be able to do it. AdLib 22 minutes ago
Ad…lacking the visible and noisy foci that DT is ….. without him…and is largely invisible…..inspiration is in short supply. MurphTheSurf3 22 minutes ago
Murph – Blue Lives Matter was only a way of Trumpers saying black lives don’t matter. Trumpers were excited to attack and maim and kill any police standing in the way of their attempt to put Trump in as dictator. AdLib 21 minutes ago
Murph–That may be the price for those rooms, but are any of them booked? So, where is this inauguration taking place and where will the REAL president live? glenn 21 minutes ago
Ad–Much as I would have loved to have seen the RTLB being dragged out of the WH by force; I’m glad the insurrection failed. glenn 20 minutes ago
Ad….good mix and match…..Blue LIves Matter, when that perspective…otherwie…back ofthe bus. MurphTheSurf3 19 minutes ago
Murph – That is very cool to hear about the farm agent. Biden is around 62% approval, I think that will only rise as COVID is more controlled and his COVID relief bill and infrastructure bills are passed. No one outside of the crazies will want Trump and his insane years back. AdLib 19 minutes ago
Murph–isn’t it nice to have a competent administration? glenn 18 minutes ago
Glenn..I expect the Trump DC is going to go the way of the Trump Casinos. MurphTheSurf3 18 minutes ago
glenn – The power of a cult leader to draw in people of all kinds is fascinating but to those far too principled to sign on, it’s like looking at lemmings following each other off a cliff. AdLib 18 minutes ago
Murph–bankrupt, you mean? Gee, breaks my heart! glenn 17 minutes ago
Ad ….as one of my fellow farmer friends pointed out……now when he calls the local farm bureau SOMEONE ANSWERS. …tickled pink. MurphTheSurf3 17 minutes ago
glenn – Same here, I’m happier to have had Trump crawl away from DC…but am looking forward to him being dragged into court and hopefully, dragged to prison. AdLib 16 minutes ago
Glenn..busted wide open and revealed to be a crook … love it. MurphTheSurf3 16 minutes ago
Ad–It’s not so much principled as it is common sense. But it is definitely like watching lemmings. glenn 15 minutes ago
Murph – There’s a thing about comedians, you never want to follow one who got a lot of laughs, you want to follow a guy who bombed because it makes you look even better. This is what I think will happen with Biden. Trump made the country a “shithole”, Biden’s bringing back function and competence will look spectacular in comparison. But, Biden is pursuing very Progressive changes so he can and I think will be a madern day FDR. AdLib 14 minutes ago
Well…friends….hitting the hay….and the hey! When Trump “wins” tomorrow he will actually lose ….. look forward to it…..best to you both. Be well. MurphTheSurf3 14 minutes ago
glenn – Yep, common sense but principles protect you from being convinced into a group that presents itself as righteous while their actions show they’re not. Too many who join cults learn to accept the immorality of those in charge and rationalize it away. Principled people draw the line at that. AdLib 12 minutes ago
Murph–when will your farmer friends learn that repubs don’t believe that our government is there to help people? They’re always trying to cut government services–hence no one answering the phone at the farm bureau–yet complain that it’s the Dems’ fault it doesn’t work and even more unbelievable–expect Dems to fix it for them? With the mental effort it must take to reconcile those two things in your mind, it’s no wonder they don’t know which way is up. glenn 12 minutes ago
‘Nite Murph. Stay safe with your weather! glenn 11 minutes ago
Ad–True, there are only so many rationalizations that can actually be rationalized. glenn 10 minutes ago
I think the farmers and other Repub types will secretly appreciate all that Biden and Dems bring to them but their loyalty to the GOP is more of a racial thing and their fragility about the loss of white superiority will overrule any reason in their minds of who’s really helping them the most. AdLib 10 minutes ago
glenn – But studies have shown that the more people compromise all they believe in to rationalize away the horrible things their cult does, the deeper they are committed to the cult. AdLib 9 minutes ago
Ad–That is the toxic elephant in the room….their damn white superiority. This second impeachment has certainly proven how toxic it is, when an insurrection urged, led, and allowed to happen for 2-3 hours has not led to the RTLB and his enablers being in Gitmo. glenn 8 minutes ago
It is exactly the slippery slope thing. Once Trumpers could rationalize away that Trump assaulted women and had an allegience to Putin, he could kill hundreds of thousands of people via COVID and even attempt to kill our democracy and they chant “USA!” as they follow his orders to blow up the country. AdLib 7 minutes ago
Ad–well, that makes sense…they’re so far down the hole it would take them admitting they were wrong about their whole life view and that is a difficult thing for anyone to admit. glenn 6 minutes ago
I am really hoping that AG Garland, once in office, will build a big team to investigate and prosecute all of the crimes Trump and those around him committed. AdLib 6 minutes ago
Ad–yup. Slippery slope indeed. And they are so covered in his slime that they can’t even smell it any more. glenn 5 minutes ago
Exactly, the farther gone these people are into believing Qanon and Trump, the deeper they’ll go. There needs to be a harsh, law enforcement push to gut the white nationalist movement and a lot of the power of this movement will be drained away. AdLib 4 minutes ago
Oh well. That’s enough for me. It’s nice to have someone to vent to who understands, but after a while, I just can’t take it any more. So…have a good weekend and see you next week. glenn 4 minutes ago
The madness is still out there, still visible above the surface, only the social pressure that supports a vigorous law enforcement push against these racists will force white nationalism and this radical Repub thing to submerge. AdLib 2 minutes ago
Same here, glenn. Have a relaxing weekend! AdLib 2 minutes ago
Hopefully, it won’t just submerge; it will be destroyed. glenn a minute ago
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