It should be quite interesting to see what happens in Michigan today. Will hating college, gays and women’s rights beat hating unions, economic fairness and honesty?

We will soon find out as Santorum and Romney try to cross the finish line first in this race to the bottom. If Santorum wins, he could gain a lot of momentum going into Super Tuesday next week. If Romney loses or wins by a small margin, his entire candidacy could be mortally wounded.

Please join us tonight for a live blog of the primary returns in Michigan and Arizona. The polls close at 6:00 pm PST/9:00 pm EST but this thread is open now for any and all discussions about Romney, Santorum and the GOP primary.

Personally, I’ve already bought my “Santorum/Exorcist 2012” campaign button.

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KQµårk 死神
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This quote by Erick Erickson on RedState shows the conservative bases contempt for Romney.

Seriously, putting it bluntly, conservatives may not like Barack Obama, but most other people do. And when faced with a guy you like and a guy you don’t like who says he can fix an economy that no longer needs fixing, you’re going to go with the guy you like.

If Republicans in Washington are not panicked and trying desperately to pull Bobby Jindal in the race tomorrow, or someone like him, the party leaders must have a death wish. Mitt Romney continues to run an uninspiring campaign only able to win by massively outspending his opponents to tell voters how much worse the other guys are. That may work in the primary, but it will not work in a general election where the President of the United States won’t be outspent 5 to 1.

Three percentage points. In his home state. In his wife’s home state. In the state his father served as Governor. Three percentage points against a guy few took seriously two months ago and who just three weeks ago no one expected to give Romney a run for his money in Romney’s home state.

http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/02/29/three-percent/

KQµårk 死神
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I saw where Romney’s ‘win’ in MI was actually a tie when it came to delegates.

I watched less than an hour of MSNBC coverage last night figured Mittens would win both states and then played video games. I’m at the point now that I hope this clown show ends.

It seems like Santorum gave another raw meat right wing speech and Romney bored the shyte out of everyone, again. The ironic part is the GOP base is probably more done with the process than I am.

funksands
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I have decided to endorse Newt Gingrich for the GOP nominee. I will be throwing my considerable influence among the local GOP in the upcoming caucus on Saturday. And we have fun caucuses in this state.

I’ll let you know how it goes afterward. I’m almost vibrating with excitement!! 🙂

funksands
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Santorum’s salutatorian speech was perfect. Empty, slogan-y, emotional, combative, and historically inaccurate.

But the best part was when he says its time for “supply-side economics for the working guy”. That, in all seriousness is a genius line.

How does he describe “supply-side economics for the working guy”?

A) Cut the corporate tax rate to 0%
B) Elminate federal funding and running of SS, Medicare, Medicaid and throw them to the states
C) Eliminate the health care the working guy with a pre-existing condition just got.
D) Frack the shit out of everything.

Throw a powered wig and a waistcoat on that pig and you’ve got a winner!!

escribacat
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Turnout is light in Michigan

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120228/POLITICS01/202280374/1361/Turnout-appears-light-in-state%C3%ADs-GOP-primary

GOPers have already given up — they have a choice between Dr. Bland and Crazy Crew, so most stayed home.

SueInCa
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They were expecting a million or more and looks like they fell short.

MurphTheSurf3
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Hello All….just checking in.

I have wavered back and forth this week regarding who I want to win. For a while it came down to my wanting the nation to wrestle over the Santorum vs. Obama vision for America, the Tea Party vs. the Centrist Progressive ideals. I wanted Santorum to win in Michigan and go on to win the nomination. If Romney won the nomination and then lost to Obama the folks on the right would say it was because the GOP had not gone far enough to the right. Nothing would be settled.

But….I shifted and am happy that Romney won tonight.

Why?

Santorum is the kind of person who could reignite the Tea Party bonfires. He is the kind of person who could create the kind of campaign that resurfaces all of the worst elements of those anti health care reform rallies. His would be the kind of campaign that whether he wins or loses would leave the country even more divided.

AND, most importantly, if he were the nominee he might win. If he did, we would have a ultra conservative theocrat in the Oval Office. He would be a stronger debater against Obama because he is more glib and more emotional than Romney. He just might win and that would be the worst outcome of all.

So, congrats…Mitt.

escribacat
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I agree, Murph. Mitt is shallow and empty but not as scary as Santorum or the others.

MurphTheSurf3
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Shallow and empty is better. I agree.

Kalima
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Then it’s a pity that these Dems didn’t think of that before they started this. Not that he’s actually winning there as reported by CNN below.

Democrats launch pro-Santorum campaign for Michigan primary

Republican social conservative Rick Santorum could see an uptick in support during Tuesday’s presidential primary in Michigan from an unlikely voting bloc: hardcore Democrats.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/us-election/9110225/Democrats-launch-pro-Santorum-campaign-for-Michigan-primary.html

Just in:

CNN projects Mitt Romney will win the popular vote in the Michigan primary, but the delegate count is still too close to call, based on exit polls.

Rick Santorum is battling Romney for a share of the 30 delegates in the state, which awards them proportionately.

Romney was born in Detroit and his father was a governor of Michigan, and a victory there was seen as critical.

Earlier in the evening, CNN projected Romney would also win the Arizona primary and its 29 delegates.

MurphTheSurf3
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Hi there….

The Dems voting for Santorum is a Santorum initiative — robocalls that sound Dem but end with a tag that the call is paid for by the Santorum campaign and they have readily admitted it. Romney was so concerned about this that he was putting forth the narrative that if he lost tonight it would have been because of the Santorum effort to draw in Dems. Now he doesn’t have to use that story.

Kalima
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Thanks for explaining. I thought it was a rather silly thing to be doing when I first heard about, and why make it so public if it was in fact legit. So now I know it was just another scam, they just love to play dirty games. Cheers.

MurphTheSurf3
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Romney screamed about it but then video from his days in Mass came out where he told an interviewer he often votes Dem so he could vote for the weakest Dem. Nice.

choicelady
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From what I can see, there is actually no distinction between your sets of questions. They emphasize different things – but they are actually two sides of the same coin. Confederate guilders, if I have that right…

Kalima
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“Mitt Romney will win the Arizona Republican primary and its 29 delegates, CNN projects based on exit polls.

All polls are now closed in Arizona and Michigan, where another GOP primary occurred today.

Romney, who is also locked in a close battle with Rick Santorum in Michigan, is 1,983 votes ahead of Santorum in that state, with 17% reporting”.

funksands
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What will discerning voters in Michigan and Arizona do?

Which candidate has the best imaginary solutions to our most pressing make-believe problems? Only only of them can take us back to a time that never existed and bring back an America that never was.

Onward to the past!
Upward to the depths!

Personally my money is on Romney. Santorum is the GOP’s drunk-dial, soon they’ll get back in line and back to their loveless marriage to the pre-selected candidate.

Carmen
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Carmen

Let’s see how many goose stepping goppers turn out for this latest debacle. Even if only a couple of these fools vote, there will be a “winner” and a “loser” unless, of course, it’s a tie.