Perry’s out! Newt’s up! Romney’s down! Newt’s ex-wife attacks! Romney’s taxes attack him! And the South Carolina primary is in two days!

Let’s get ready to rum-m-mble!!!

Newt has pulled to a possible tie or better with Romney and is drooling at the possibility of beating Romney. Meanwhile, now that Romney’s been exposed as having lost in Iowa and is deteriorating in SC, maybe the inevitable nominee has a lot longer fight to become inevitable.

Tonight’s debate begins at 5:00 pm PST/8:00 pm EST on CNN and streaming at http://cnn.com.

Please join us for an always entertaining and insightful live blog of tonight’s probable mudfight!

May the dirtiest candidate lose…to Obama.

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bito
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Catholic leaders to Gingrich, Santorum: ‘Stop perpetuating ugly racial stereotypes’

Mr. Gingrich has frequently attacked President Obama as a “food stamp president” and claimed that African Americans are content to collect welfare benefits rather than pursue employment. Campaigning in Iowa, Mr. Santorum remarked: “I don’t want to make black people’s lives better by giving them somebody else’s money.”

“At a time when nearly 1 in 6 Americans live in poverty, charities and the free market alone can’t address the urgent needs of our most vulnerable neighbors. And while jobseekers outnumber job openings 4-to-1, suggesting that the unemployed would rather collect benefits than work is misleading and insulting,” the letter adds.

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He also said that Gingrich and Santorum’s “rhetoric around class and racial issues is in many ways out of line with Catholic social teaching. That is something Catholic voters will be concerned about, particularly given that both Santourm and Gingrich have not been shy about talking about the importance of their faith from a personal perspetcive and also how it shapes their political views as well.”

http://www.americanindependent.com/209366/catholic-leaders-to-gingrich-santorum-%E2%80%98stop-perpetuating-ugly-racial-stereotypes%E2%80%99

But what do they care about their hypocrisy, people of color and the poor are not their base. Damn the teachings!

The letter>>> http://www.faithinpubliclife.org/newsroom/press/catholic-leaders-challenge-gingrich-and-santorum-on-divisive-rhetoric-around-race-and-poverty/

Sisters of Mercy of the Americas Institute Leadership Team:
Sisters Patricia McDermott, RSM (President) Eileen Campbell, RSM Anne Curtis, RSM Mary Pat Gavin, RSM Deborah Troillett, RSM

KQµårk 死神
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I think the real significance of this comes from the fact that it’s Catholic bishops because both Gingrich and Santorum Catholic, especially Gingrich who says his Catholic faith ‘saved him’ from he past life of debauchery.

bito
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KQ, yes the bishops also signing the letter does carry more weight but the wait for an answer may have to come after the primaries. Just not their base.

KQµårk 死神
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Oh absolutely. That’s why it’s better the primaries go on for a while. Because when Mittens dives for the center it will look more obvious if he has to do it in a short time.

Ironically I’m starting to think Mittens will be easier to defeat than Gingrich.

bito
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Excellent KQ, I like that thought. The longer the primaries continue, and their pandering to the RW they have to do, the more obvious it will making the turn to the center. Iowa was proportional, so no massive win of delegates for anyone, SC is proportional and Florida will be the first test of winner take all. With more proportional the more pandering? Or the opposite? Hmmm, I need to think about that one.

kesmarn
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Coming from someone who viciously, ruthlessly attacked Bill Clinton, based on much less damaging private peccadillos, this is really rich:

I think the destructive, vicious negative nature of much of the news media makes it harder to govern this country, harder to attract decent people to run for public office and I am appalled that you would begin a presidential debate on a topic like that.

When I think of the way Clinton and his family were tormented at length over something that a young woman was very likely paid to set up (who keeps a stained dress hanging in a closet for many months?), as compared to the cruel and calculating way that Newt abandoned two women, I get a whole new insight on what the word “hypocrite” really means.

KQµårk 死神
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“Peccadilloes” Ding Ding you said the magic word of the day. :mrgreen:

kesmarn
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Do I get a cigar? I hate cigars.

KillgoreTrout
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Hey kes, it’s really sickening isn’t it? Newt gets all upset about being asked a question concerning his private life, and attacks King for asking such a question, instead of manning up and answering it.
As you say, he sure wasn’t worried about exposing Clinton’s private life.
I find it troublesome in the way he viciously went after King for asking that question. Once again he tried to control the debate and pick and choose which questions he thought appropriate.
Newt doth protest too much I think. His vehement reaction to the question shows, to me, that it really struck a nerve and his ex wife’s story is absolutely true.

kesmarn
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I had the same reaction, KT. That’s an old trick: becoming outraged and accusatory toward the person who dares to speak the truth. Put the other person on the defensive and take the spotlight off yourself.

As you say, his behavior makes the ex-wife’s statement ring true.

bito
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k’es, I heard a top aide to Newt while he was both Whip and Speaker, that this is very typical of Newt, SOP. I don’t know if this is true, but he said Newt has done the same thing in every debate, outrage over the media/question.
Went on to say that he shouldn’t become Prez because of his shooting off at the lip, without thought.

kesmarn
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I’ve read similar accounts, b’ito…that Newtie made many enemies on his own side of the aisle with his high-handed “leadership style” (euphemism for bullying).

I think he has very few serious backers outside of the religious right wackos and the racist demographic.

MurphTheSurf3
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NITE ALL.

Chernynkaya
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TPM: Mitt Romney’s Very Bad Night In Charleston
http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/01/mitt-romneys-very-bad-night-in-charleston.php?ref=fpa
Video of him booed over tax-return dodge.

Chernynkaya
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The Hill says the two tailor-made for Dems attack ads are Mitt’s response about abortion, and the “real streets” statement.

SallyT
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The “real street’ in Beverly Hills maybe.

Chernynkaya
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I’m sticking with Easy Street. Wall Street is a close second.

SallyT
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Guess you need to add K Street in there, too.

KillgoreTrout
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And C Street too.

bito
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@MiaFarrow: I resent the fact that those four men are so vehemently sure about what we women should do with our bodies #prochoice

choicelady
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Especially when the men cannot seem to control their own…

I’d not be surprised if somewhere along the line a few more of these self-righteous preachers-of-your-morality suddenly were revealed to be Tom cats in their day. Arrogance leads to “I can do anything I want” kinds of actions.

Chernynkaya
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EDIT: Nevermind–we missed it.

In the meantime, Obama’s at the Apollo LIVE. Watch it here:

http://www.rentadrone.tv/cspan/cspan/

SallyT
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Now that is the guy I’m voting for! Oh, yah, they think they will beat this man in debates…..don’t THINK so!!!!

Chernynkaya
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The only way Obama could possibly lose is if this country is terminally stupid. (Uh-oh.)

SallyT
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If Newt wins So Caroline, I wouldn’t stand to near him. You might get your eye put out by the buttons popping off his shirt from his chest all puffed out.

Chernynkaya
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Sally–HAH! That’s a great image!

AlphaBitch
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AlphaBitch

Honey, I’m not sure those buttons will be from his shirt. His belt looks mighty T-I-G-H-T.

SallyT
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AB, that too but I would never be eye level with that! Or in the backseat with him.

Chernynkaya
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Sally!! That was a WINNER!

SallyT
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Cher, thank you. And, that is not a great image to imagine either!

KillgoreTrout
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I think it will be from his big fat midsection.

MurphTheSurf3
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I campaigned for Barack in South Carolina in 2008. I recognize that crowd. South Carolinians have been embarrassed for three years that their state proved that Obama was an acceptable Southern candidate. Most, in that state assumed Edwards would take the state.

Chernynkaya
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Now they can all go offstage and release the farts they’ve been squeezing in.

AlphaBitch
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AlphaBitch

Why do you think I call him “Poot”? He doesn’t hold back, I bet.

SallyT
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Cher, I think they have let a few go on stage but out of their mouths.

MurphTheSurf3
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Gingrich: This is the “most dangerous president of our lifetime”

IF GINGRICH GETS INTO THE OVAL OFFICE, HIS NONSENSE ABOUT OBAMA WILL BE PROPHECY ABOUT HIMSELF.

bito
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anamariecox Ana Marie Cox
Ron Paul’s health care plan precedes government, his plan for government pre-dates Jonathan Swift! #scdebate