Today, President Obama announced a proposal to freeze discretionary budget items, excluding security costs, for the next three years. Here’s how various media outlets presented this story.
Obama Seeks Freeze on Many Domestic Programs
Obama to seek spending freeze, more aid to middle class
Obama seeks to freeze some spending
Obama: Freeze non-security, discretionary spending
AP sources: Obama will ask to freeze a part of govt spending for 3 years beginning in 2011
OBAMA: Freeze on Non-Security Spending
Obama to put limits on government spending
So Long, Spending
Bito – I love this one…………………
Gretel, Totaly agree with you! they only ones that are talking about an
Sue, I think you have it down! What network are starting out on? When do you start? I’ll set my recorder!
Fake News, What i described above will bring a fresh taste or truth to the network LOL. Besides I want to keep an eye on Murdoch
First, conservatives continue to demean themselves by making a comment about Obama’s decision to freeze spending, and then qualify it with “McCain already said that”, so pathetic.
Second, NPR reported that the Whitehouse said there would be no cuts that would negatively affect the economic growth of the nation, doesn’t that seem to be, a Duh!
ArtMan — O/T I’ve sent you an email. Just wanted to make sure you saw it.
Got it, done. Right back at ya.
Well at least they did not say NO, or You are a liar, or tell the reporter how you cannot feed stray animals because then they will reproduce, comparing stray animanl to the free lunch program benifactors in the schools……………
Consider the responses you cited a step up the evolution ladder for the right
According to ABC news, these areas will not be affected by Obama’s spending freeze
1. Social Security
4. Veteran’s Administration
These areas will be affected
1. Air traffic control
2. National Parks
3. Farm Subsidies
It remains to be seen exactly how these areas will be affected.
Let’s hope he adds oil subsidies and insurance subsidies to the second list.
And ABC knows this, how?
B’ito, you’re assuming that what is reported has some correlation with knowledge! When it comes to our media, I don’t think we can make that leap. 😛
And I think the leap gets longer every day. 😀
I think this is where we are now:
I ain’t taking that one! 🙄
I don’t know. They did not state where exactly it came from. I will be watching what Obama says tomorrow.
Seems that site is a little slanted to one side, not very objective from my slant.
Here is the video circulating around…
The video seems very consistent with what Jared Bernstein talked about on Rachel Maddow. Funding will be cut for some programs but increased for others, with a net decrease in overall spending.
Gretel, Totaly agree with you! they only ones that are talking about an “across the board” freeze are the talking heads.
Look how much younger Obama looks!
It’s been a very stressful year for our president.
I was thinking the same thing.
I don’t see this criticism by candidate Obama as contradicting President Obama’s proposed “spending ‘freeze’ of 2011.” Do you?
The nuance is in the details. 🙂
I have a feeling that what McCain would have proposed as a spending freeze and what Obama is proposing are very different things.
To me it looks like an end run around the line item veto problem. We’ll have to see what gets frozen and what gets introduced.
The left says we can never have spending cuts no matter what.
The says right we can never ever raise taxes.
Both are needed and both are difficult politically because the partisans on both sides fearmonger and claim disaster whenever either are mentioned. So the weak kneed politicians never do either when both are needed.
The disconnect is what’s politically popular is not always what the country needs.
Long die America’s hyperpartisan demise.
So what suggestions do you have to correct our political behavior. I think someone needs to draft a constructive article that clearly points out the something that I grew up hearing.
“If you always do what you’ve always done, then you will always get what you always got”
Another words, if all we do is complain, then we deserve what we get. So….. what can we do?
I have not formulated a solution yet and may never have any answers let alone all of them. But I see our system is broken. For example, the left and right are bringing down HCR because they are too busy playing political footsie with their bases. People always blame the leaders but leaders need people to follow and the left has the ideas but a herd of cats and the right has the wrong ideas and orthodoxy attached to those wrong ideas.
My preliminary thoughts are you pull the politically tough decisions away from the sausage grinder that is broken with things like presidential and congressional commissions that have worked well in the past. But even commissions are being politicized now.
j’avaz, I like Joan Walsh, but….
I need to see the actual proposals, some details, not just these generalities.One thing Bernstein did say was that none of the cuts would start till 2011–That is after the mid-terms! How big, how much, what program, when…….
This is a really complicated issue, too. Because the conventional answer to unemployment is to increase spending. Obama is going to get a lot of criticism from the left on this one.
It’s an interesting idea, though — from an economic standpoint — to target spending freezes in order to increase other parts of the budget. I don’t know that I’ve ever heard that proposed before.
Paul Krugman is not happy, but he adds this ray of hope to an otherwise scathing editorial:
The one this morning is even worse, and the comments thread is a full-on lynching party.
From what I understand, several of the programs that are being proposed in the freeze have received big increases so effectively they should be well funded… The freeze will just halt new increases that they may not have received anyhow… Once everything is in place it will be easier to research…
I agree, Mr. Tiger, Sir. We and the MSM get so used to chasing headlines and rumors before we see any details.
A lot of “If they…” “If it …” “what if….””If, if, if……”
I agree…the speculation becomes the facts…
LAB, I like that: “the speculation becomes the facts
Interesting point that Bernstein made last night on Rachel, and I paraphrase,~~We are going to go through the budget line by line—its difficult, for every line there is a lobby fight for or against it. You should come and sit in on one of the meetings Rachel.~~~~
Real invite? Take It Rachel ❗
It’s as if they’re jerry rigging a line item veto. Very very clever.
Alternet is a purist la la land. They don’t have a clue.
They are using Republican tactics of fearmongering, demonizing and conflating issues. SS and Medicare have nothing to do with Wall Street.
Obama has long term plans that progressives are fighting because they contain compromises the purists don’t want. Just like without conservatives, without progressives HCR would be passed by now.
Thanks escribacat for posting this! So how are the teabaggers going to respond to this latest development? Are they going to rally and say they are tired of government freezes?
Has Obama has effectively silenced the teabag noise machine by removing one of their primary trump cards? He has spoken forcefully against the supreme court ruling and vowed to challenge them, he has increased spending for working/middle-class families and proposed to decrease spending in other areas. So what are the teabaggers going to complain about? Geitner? Bernanke? Well I think that’s AH’s domain!!
Unless he has become all white, they’ll have something to complain about. Neatly disguised as ” socialist commnunfascism.”
And yes, I have played the race card – I will cash out my chips now.. 🙂
9/10 comments were also Obame=Bush in orientation…
😆 when did Bush ever cut spending?
he cut personal spending for the wealthiest Americans through those fat tax cuts that 51 Republican senators found a way to push through…does that count?
Escribacat one of my favorite series for sure.
Again this is more BS to drum up faux outrage for the right wing and left wing extremes. They don’t mention that it won’t affect entitlements either. The discretionary spending cuts will only be token at first.
Thanks e’cat! This is great! I listened to Biden’s economics person (missed his name) and realized that Obama is about to give us that great cost-cutting and revenue-shifting scene from “Dave”. (Every real progressive’s dream scene.) He will cut programs that are not working and that soothe the savage heart of only corporate lobbyists. He will then focus on spending around programs that build the economy and shore up the working and middle class people. He’s already anchored programs for the poor that have protected over 3 million people just here in CA.
I am so sick of phony progressives! Left or Right, all this nation knows how to do is whine. HuffPo is the worst of the lot. She doesn’t have a clue what the President will say tomorrow night, but let’s slam him just for the hell of it. I’m done with her.
She is the reason we have Arnold. In the debate before he got elected the first time, he was asked what he would do about the sudden massive shortfall in the CA budget – and before he was forced to answer, to prove he had not a clue – she butted in making derisive comments to and about him, and he never EVER answered the question. She handed the election to him right there. Many of us watching knew it right then, and we’ve never forgiven her for her arrogant stupidity.
The econ guy was Jared Bernstein. I read one of his books and was greatly impressed by it; I’m glad to see he’s on the econ team in the WH. That said, I find it really sad that the WH has lost control of the message already withthe word “freeze”. (Even Rachel didn’t seem to get it, and she’s usually pretty sharp.) It’s seems like a good but complex move, and that doesn’t translate well into sound bites.
I have to agree with you both, When I listened to Bernstein try and explain what he was talking about I knew it wasn’t in plain enough terms, the word freeze seems to be in use to appease, but once again it only misleads and I feel they’ve lost the message before we even got it.
I hope not, And I think Rachel was in the moment and wasn’t thinking on her feet tonight. She’ll figure it out.
I watched the segment with Jared Bernstein and Rachel Maddow last night and I understood exactly was he was saying. I love Rachel and think she’s usually on point even in her criticisms of Obama, but last night I just couldn’t help but feel that she had already made up her mind and was trying to save face by pretending not to understand what Jared was saying. I find it hard to believe that Rachel did not get the concept, especially when Obama himself campaigned on this very idea – this is nothing new. During the debates he talked about going through the budget “line by line” and using a scalpel. John McCain had also proposed freezes but not in the discriminating way that Obama is now proposing.
On the other hand,(just my wild speculation) the media might be trying a strategy to create confusion among the public just so that people will tune in to Obama’s SOTU address to clarify the rumors they’ve heard. The MSM seems to thrive on controversy. If people are too content and know everything, then they won’t be motivated to watch the speech on Wednesday.
Good point, Gretel. I had forgotten about that “line by line” statement, which he made over and over during the campaign.
Speaking of hatchet vs scalpel, this is a statement put out by Jared Bernstein today.
I think Rachel was sincere — she knows economics, and she’s absolutely right that in the first 10 pages of any Econ 101 textbook, you learn that you don’t cut spending during an economic downturn. She has every right to be skeptical.
We just have to see how the plan is structured and if it has a payoff. I’m skeptical as well — my field was economics — but I think it’s an innovative idea.
And I always like the idea of bringing some discipline to our budget — especially where corporate giveaways are concerned.
Nellie I think you’re right. I do believe that Rachel is honest – I recalled her “are you kidding me?” reaction to Chris Matthews when he made the far-fetched claim that the MA voters were concerned about “debt” and gov’t spending which is why they voted for Scott Brown. Well I think the WH should invite the commentators like Rachel Maddow who still have a shred of integrity left to one of their meetings, like Jared said. If she’s on board with what they’re doing and can project confidence on her show, then that would do a lot to allieviate some of the anxiety among progressives.
But I do recall Obama specifically stating that he would comb through the budget and cut spending on programs that have been receiving money but are redundant. The Medicare program he mentioned is a supplemental program that subsides the insurance companies, but does not actually benefit the people on that program. The media and much of the public are confused on that – so it’s really up to Obama and the WH to clarify what exactly they are going to cut spending on.
I think he’s referring to Medicare Advantage — which is not really a medicare program, but an insurance subsidy to private companies that charge more for the same services that Medicare provides.
People really need to be careful before they jump to criticize. And you’re so right about the administration needing to be very clear and straightforward when they explain this.
I think Rachel will come around if this works. She seems to be very fair.
After Keith & Rachel’s segments on this topic tonight, I realized that a) calling it a “freeze” seems like a real distortion, typical of the msm 😛 but b) the WH certainly seems like they’re trying to sharpen their message with a blunt pocketknife. Where is George Lakoff when we need him?
I think Obama needs to get his message out personally and directly to the public. He has allowed the media to distort his entire purpose and agenda by undermining his credibility with these constant streams of rumors from the WH, leaks, annonymous speakers, etc..Unlike George Bush, Obama does not have the MSM as his mouthpiece. They won’t protect him and cover for him. Even his so-called base is willing to throw him under the bus for their peceived betrayal by him. When you have democratic senators coming on cable shows and bashing the president, I have to wonder.
Thanks escrib! Love this feature!
It always comes down to a competition between Huff and Drudge for “Douchiest” and Huff wins again IMO.
Saying nothing about it is an admission that they are disarmed on this issue.
“Mr. Freeze” seems so childish, simple minded and ridiculing it could have come from Rush’s or Beck’s mouth.
What still amazes me is that Huffy is always worse than Fox.
Narcissism is hard to distinguish politically.