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AdLib On June - 24 - 2016
Vox Populi, our weekly live chat on the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm! So much to talk about including Brexit, hope to see you then!
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey Beatlex!
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey Ad,lot to unravel here tonite!
Beatlex

7 days ago
No kidding!
AdLib 7 days ago
How about this AD? I am beginning to think that there are a lot of connections with what has been going on worldwide.When the influx of refugees began,a lot jumped right in to save people in danger.The aftermath is not going so well in a lot of the countries that opened their doors. A criminal element,rapists.Which dovetails with the rantings of one Donald J Trump. There are growing numbers of people who are sorry they were so quick to help.These are scary times for democracies.Socially and financially”more to come add please)
Beatlex

7 days ago
Beatlex – I think you’re onto something there. It seems that in this time of global terrorism and economic oppression of the majority while a tiny fraction owns most everything and gets most of the earnings…the rise of racist tyrants is ripe. Germany was going through economic hardship when WWI and WWII began and of course the rise of Hitler happened.
AdLib 7 days ago
Something is different Ad,people have had it it seems.This may be what is needed,a change of the status quo,WORLDWIDE
Beatlex

7 days ago
That may be right though I think moves like Brexit are ignorant ways to change the status quo. I think we’ll do it right here in the US but half of the folks in the UK have blown it big time.
AdLib 7 days ago
That is why these knds of votes are dangerous to leave to the people.What do we elect leaders for? TO lead of course
Beatlex

7 days ago
And all this BS about how this means we should be more scared of Trump is annoying. Big differences between the Brexit vote and Trump’s presidential chances.
AdLib 7 days ago
But he has great suites at his golf course! He showed he was a fool right there AD!
Beatlex

7 days ago
Yes, he was on a global stage and looked like an utter ignoramus!
AdLib 7 days ago
He seems clueless Ad.He has no political smarts,only a firm belief in himself! There is mania named for that I’m sure
Beatlex

7 days ago
Egomaniacal?
AdLib 7 days ago
Narcissist,countless more
Beatlex

7 days ago
Yep. The reason why Trump can’t ride the nationalist wave into the WH…is because he’s Trump and he’s hated so widely and deeply.
AdLib 7 days ago
He is what a lot of people call”A Piece Of Work” Ad,LOL
Beatlex

7 days ago
Except he’s never really worked a day in his life.
AdLib 7 days ago
Touche!,work at figuring how to rip people off it seems Ad.Or gets lawyers to do it
Beatlex

7 days ago
If conning people is work, then I guess he has worked.
AdLib 7 days ago
His evil mind at work Ad.His Dad probabl showed him
Beatlex

7 days ago
I know so little about his dad but judging from Donald, he must have been just as big a piece of “work”.
AdLib 7 days ago
He was more honest from the litle I have read.But he forgot to teach him morals
Beatlex

7 days ago
I don
Beatlex

7 days ago
Donald must’ve been out on the streets learning 3 Card Monte when lessons about morality were scheduled.
AdLib 7 days ago
I don’t think Warren should be VP.She can do more in the senate,and she has a lot of god years left
Beatlex

7 days ago
++Good++ no “god” here lol
Beatlex

7 days ago
I think she’d be valuable in either position. Hard to imagine Hillary would want a woman who’s far more loved an influential as her running mate and outshining her. But if she does pick Warren, she will win over some who might vote for Trump to vote against the status quo.
AdLib 7 days ago
Good God!
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey glenn!
AdLib 7 days ago
Why would Warren want it Ad? i glenn
Beatlex

7 days ago
Hey KT!
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey peoploids!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
What’s up Ad?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
10,000 peoploids KT!
Beatlex

7 days ago
Beatlex – It would give her a higher profile, an executive position to get things done and position her to run fro President.
AdLib 7 days ago
Great catch B!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
She has a high profile Ad! Maybe a cabinet post.VP’s don’t much
Beatlex

7 days ago
I didn’t think EW would want the job, but I think she does. I would rather her stay in the Senate and have Hillar see
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Beatlex – Cheney was a very powerful VP, she could become a very powerful VP…if Hillary doesn’t prevent that.
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey KT! read my post at the start and tell me what you think please
Beatlex

7 days ago
That was weird.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT – I didn’t think either Hillary or Warren would want her as VP but things may be in flux on that.
AdLib 7 days ago
hi all, had trouble connecting, Ad
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
OZ!
Beatlex

7 days ago
I think you’re right B, to an extent. I think it’s mostly here in the US that I see it. I don’t follow world news as much as I should.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
PPO – What happened? Details will help me investigate it.
AdLib 7 days ago
KT Thx for reading.It is a theory of mine
Beatlex

7 days ago
Hate to say this but the UK has just diminished itself for a very long time. But it will be a cautionary tale for anyone open to a Trump presidency. Watching the UK economy tank will display what Trump would bring to the US.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad, clicked on ‘Join the chatroom’ got little clock ‘connecting’…… 30 secs later, still connecting. closed out, came back in and all is well.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
PPO – Thanks for the details. Will check into it!
AdLib 7 days ago
I would rather see a more balanced ticket, gender wise. I know that may sound trivial, but I think two women on the same ticket might turn off some voters. Of course, I could be wrong. I think she should pick the most qualified for the job. It’s a stepping stone for whomever gets it. I’d rather see EW stay where she is. We need more EW
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
New sec state for Elizabeth?
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
My computer is getting weird. I can’t finish a frickin comment without a jum in the page.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Aside from the Brits supporting it, who else applauded the Brexit? Putin, Iran and Trump. That should scare any intelligent US voter on Trump.
AdLib 7 days ago
I’ll try this again!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Ah, Fool Brittania! the end of any feeble attempt at maintaining their arrogance thaqt they’re the dog’s Bollocks of countries. Hooray!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
KT – Maybe try closing then reopening your browser? Sounds like a browser function is corrupted.
AdLib 7 days ago
I refreshed the page. That may have done it.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Good evening, all. Beatlex, your analysis of the global interconnections is spot on. I think that some people are rightfully angry, but I think the anger is misplaced in a lot of cases. The refugee problem stems from the countries from which the refugees come. I know that’s obvious. However, somehow or another, the world needs to do something about those countries. I don’t know what the answer is; I think the institutions that we have relied on have failed the “little people” big time. For example, what is the UN doing? What is NATO doing? For that matter, what is the EU doing to help stem the tide of refugees? Perhaps I am ignorant of the facts as to what those institutions are doing; but we are definitely in a global mess, and anger, hate, and division don’t seem to be working. I just wish there was another answer(s). I’m just not smart enough to figure it out.
glenn

7 days ago
Hey glenn! That’s quite the comment!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
very, very well said, glenn.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
PPO – Yep, I used to think of the UK as a bit smarter than the US but after the economic crash, the US chose Obama and spending on infrastructure, the UK chose Cameron and austerity. Then re-elected Cameron. Now this? The UK has even more ignorant voters than the US. Have you seen the video of dumbass Brit voters who voted for Brexit then today said, “I wish I hadn’t, I was just trying to make a statement,” or “I didn’t know what it meant.”
AdLib 7 days ago
How about that sit-in? Eh?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Cool, KT! Glad it’s working now!
AdLib 7 days ago
Big decisions like remaining in the EU should never be put in the hands of average voters.Leaders are elected to deal with big things like this.And look what happenened? The fear campaigns and bogus information ruled the day
Beatlex

7 days ago
Thanks, PPO.
glenn

7 days ago
…Spain grabbing back Gibraltar, oohh, lots of good stuff!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
The people in the UK aren’t smarter, they just speak better English!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Christ you know it ain’t easy! Sorry, the mention of Gibralter made me think of the Ballad of John and Yoko!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
glenn – I think the world community should have banded together to insist that Arab nations take in refugees. They’re happy to take billions in defense money from us but when their help is needed, The Saudis and others just say, “Screw you, you deal with it!”
AdLib 7 days ago
KT,You know how hard it can be
Beatlex

7 days ago
The way things are going…
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
There tryin to crucify me!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Beatlex–and the same thing could happen here in the US. We have such fear mongering and bogus information going on; it scares me half to death that trump will actually be elected. Conservatives are gloating about the results of Brexit, yet people are saying, “Oh, hold on a sec. I didn’t think this would happen.” Well, they’ve “taken their country back”. Now what the hell are they going to do with it?
glenn

7 days ago
They’re!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT – I was so elated by the sit in! This is the kind of activism and out of the box thinking that’s needed. The tables are turning on gun control and finally, the Repubs are starting to look like they’re running scared. What I’d also like to see is a big media campaign rightfully demonizing the NRA as arming terrorist to kill Americans.
AdLib 7 days ago
Yes glenn,that is what I am trying to say
Beatlex

7 days ago
Ad–I agree completely. So, the U
glenn

7 days ago
A line that harkens back to Lennon’s comment that the Beatles were more popular than Jesus. That Lennon, he was a sly one! Bless his soul!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Ad–I agree completely. They say the same thing with the internal conflicts between Sunnis and Shiites. They haven’t been dealing with that for centuries; yet expect the US to come in and “make it all better”; yet complain about what we are doing. It’s an endless cycle.
glenn

7 days ago
glenn, I don’t see why conservatives are gloating, It was a Conservative decision to have the friggin’ referendum in the first place to satisfy the equivalent of the Tea Party in the UK. It’s a disaster for the 1%, with gazillions wiped off the Stock Exchanges, the Pound Sterling devalued. they should really be shitting themselves.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Beatlex–I know.
glenn

7 days ago
Beatlex, all you say is right on the money. Add to that having a national referendum where people directly vote on national policy that can destroy the economy. They’re too uninformed, did you see the article about the biggest searches on the internet today by Brits? “What is the EU?” “What happens when we leave the EU?” “What countries are in the EU?” The voters at large don’t even know what they voted for! Here in the US, half the country or more can’t even name the VP! The masses are not informed enough to make critical policy decisions, this is proof of that.
AdLib 7 days ago
Does anyone but me think that Bernie may have helped inspire the dems to stage their sit-in?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Lennon had a way with words that was different than other wordsmiths.”Time wounds all heels” to his haters,HA!
Beatlex

7 days ago
PPO–they’re gloating because they “defeated” the “elites”. You know, all those people who use facts and figures to tell you what’s going to happen, and when it happens, the conservatives “won.” Circular “logic” at its finest.
glenn

7 days ago
Wage Peace, Not War!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Of course, Don the Con had to put in a gloat hinmself:
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
KT–Don’t know about Bernie; I think John Lewis finally had enough, and wanted to do something different. I thought the sit-in was fantastic! Do you think they’ll continue it after the recess?
glenn

7 days ago
Trump is toast!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Asked about the uncertainty of the pound, Trump responded by pointing out how he stood to benefit from a weaker currency. It’s not the first time Trump has boasted about profiting off a weak economy. “If the pound goes down, more people are coming to Turnberry, frankly,” he said at a press conference. “For traveling and for other things, I think it very well could turn out to be positive.”
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
hey guys
Harleigh

7 days ago
Hey! Chump wants you to know he has great suites at his golf resort! What a Maroon
Beatlex

7 days ago
Harleigh!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Oh, no doubt, but I saw him in a clip today and casually mentioned November. I think Sanders has ignited a spark that may just embolden more dems.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
glenn – I’m going to write an article about this, don’t be concerned that this means Trump has a stronger chance of becoming President. As similar as the nationalist sentiments are, there are so many different factors including the UK being far more white, Trump having a 70% disapproval, his attacking minoorities to the point where 90% oppose him. The sentiment of some Americans may mirror Brits who voted for Brexit but there are great differences that will prevent Trump from winning the WH.
AdLib 7 days ago
PPO–You’re right it’s not the first time trump has bragged about profiting off financial disasters. He also bragged that the crashing real estate market was good for him.
glenn

7 days ago
Hey Harleigh!
glenn

7 days ago
Hey Harleigh! How’s it hangin?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
glenn – There is an old Arab saying, “Arab problems on Arab shoulders.” That should be the US policy in general, with occassional exceptions.
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey Harleigh!
AdLib 7 days ago
AD-*****
Beatlex

7 days ago
the answer is always…”to the left, to the left.”
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
I see the end of Empire world wide. the Roman, Ottoman, French, Dutch, Spanish, Portuguese, British, USSR and now the US Empire are all going or gone. Hooray
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
I don’t have much of an understanding of the EU/brexit
Harleigh

7 days ago
Apologies folks. I was reading Frank Zappa’s biography earlier today, and have been corrupted!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
it’s an economic/nationalist issue.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Ad–I surely hope you’re right. I do wish we actually had a “liberal media” that would quit reporting trump’s and his supporters every breath and would start reporting some positive news over and over again, the same way they report the negative shit over and over again. I’m with Bernie; I’m sick to death of hearing about Hillary’s emails. No matter how many times it is explained that she is not under criminal investigation, no matter how many times it is explained that she did nothing illegal; no matter how many times it is explained that she did not kill Vince Foster, no matter how many times it is explained that…..(fill in the conservative talking point blank), we keep hearing the same things over and over again from conservatives, and from the orange one himself.
glenn

7 days ago
harleigh, basically it means that, in 2 years time, when the final exit document is signed, the UK will no longer be subject to rules and regs and laws from Brussels. BUT, they also won’t have any privileges within the EU.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
A good summation P!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
PPO is that good or bad and for who??
Harleigh

7 days ago
it’s not too good for the Untied Kingdom as a whole.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
++Serious Question++ Has a constitutional conferance ever taken place? It seems to me that to fix the biggest problem(campaign finance) would take a ammendment to enshrine it.Am I wrongÉ and why don`t progressives fight for thatÉ
Beatlex

7 days ago
H, IMO it’s bad for both. The UK will have to have a border with Ireland and extra Customs and Immigration points. Brits will have to use passports to go onto mainland Europe. All sorts of legal and social probs as well. F’r instance, many Brits have retired to Spain because it is so much cheaper there and their pensions go further. What happens to them now?
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Harleigh–it also means that there won’t be any more “open borders” between UK and the rest of Europe. The UK kept their own currency even though it joined the EU, but now their currency is at it’s lowest point that it’s been in 31 years. Also, it means that inter-EU trading will be different; the UK will no longer be a favored trading partner within the EU. As to what that actually means financially, no one knows, because no country has walked away from the EU before.
glenn

7 days ago
glenn LOL I love going to reichwingdom at Newsmax and the hill. Now I am banned for commenting on Newsmax.LOL
Harleigh

7 days ago
That’s because you’re a hippie/commie/pinko/liberal/progressive!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
true, glenn, and I’m sure there are other countries looking at how the UK will get on, to see if they should follow
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Harleigh–I cannot understand why you would be banned from Newsmax. Your comments are always so respectful to conservatives.
glenn

7 days ago
glenn, ( snigger!)
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Testing, testing!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
A OK, KT
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
No answer to my above QÉ
Beatlex

7 days ago
good. I thought the internet gremilns were afoot.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
who me B?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
anyone
Beatlex

7 days ago
muhahaha…. the new Harleigh from another ID will return, same as the 7 times HP banned me!!
Harleigh

7 days ago
what was the question, again?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
read just above KT
Beatlex

7 days ago
Being banned from those sites is a badge of honor!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
I was hoping you wouldn’t ask me that, B. My machine is acting strange tonight.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
PPO–Several of them are already talking about it; I know France is one. I also read today that many giant corporations are planning on leaving the UK to go to Germany. Companies like Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan and others. Not looking good for the British financial markets.
glenn

7 days ago
Beatlex – I used to think that a Constitutional Convention woould be a good thing to update the Constitution but knowing how the Kochs and other powerful entities control so many Repubs (including the NRA), it woould be a scary gamble that’s not worth it. Imagine if The Kochs got too mess around with our Constitution, nightmare! I think a liberal SCOTUS is the best way to get those changes.
AdLib 7 days ago
Maybe I shouldn’t have dropped those two hits of acid, earlier! Just kidding!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Beatlex I don’t think a constitutional amendment will ever happen in this climate.
Harleigh

7 days ago
I don’t have any acid.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT – Try closing then restarting your browser, that should fix it!
AdLib 7 days ago
KT, maybe clear your history
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
I did that a minute ago. I think it worked. For now.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT – Keeping my fingers crossed!
AdLib 7 days ago
I do that pretty regularly P.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Thanks.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
LOL KT… bet it’s been a long while!
Harleigh

7 days ago
how about that revolution in congress, eh?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Yeah Ad,but when there is a right court,it will change again.No
Beatlex

7 days ago
1989 Harleigh! Goony bird blotters. Copped at a California Grateful Dead show.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT–aren’t we still waiting to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment? The SCOTUS is the way to go.
glenn

7 days ago
I see that Don the Con is so bankrupt, he even has to have someone else create his controversial blurts! “A former Donald Trump adviser said the handling of Trump’s racially-based attacks against a federal judge was the straw that broke the camel’s back on Corey Lewandowski.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Be back my keyboard is showing És instead of question marks-reboot
Beatlex

7 days ago
no doubt glenn.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
E, did you say?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
I think Nigel Farage of UKIP and Boris Johnson, whoo is likely to be the new PM, will be captains of the Titanic as it sinks, though they’re crowing about Brexit now. It’s necessary to have these madmen own the destruction they’ve helped bring about.
AdLib 7 days ago
For Lewandowsky, that was a pretty thick straw.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Ad–Yup, Farage and Johnson should own every bit of the financial ruin they have brought on the UK.
glenn

7 days ago
London Calling?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
PPO and KT–I see people are now calling CNN the “Corey News Network”. LOL!
glenn

7 days ago
I think there are a lot of Brits looking at each other and saying ‘WTF have we just done?’
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
PPO – That’s the reaction of a cowardly candidate, blaming his campaign manager for the words the candidate said. Lame and unbelieveable.
AdLib 7 days ago
glenn
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
going backwards in time never really works out.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
PPO–that’s the take I’m getting with reading some of the tweets and news. Some of the people didn’t even know what the EU was.
glenn

7 days ago
Just when you think that CNN can’t sink any lower. Too bad Anderson Cooper doesn’t leave them. He’s better than his bosses.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
He certainly doesn’t need the money!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
PPO – Yep, you’ve got a number of Brits who stupidly voted for Brexit just to “send a message” while thinking that it would never happen.
AdLib 7 days ago
you all saw drumps yyyuuugggggeeee gaff in Scotland at his new golf course right??
Harleigh

7 days ago
Hmmmm! That reminds me of another group of people!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT–I love the way AC held the attorney general’s feet to the fire when he wouldn’t let her off the hook with her “love of gays” when months earlier she was saying they were a “threat to Floridians.”
glenn

7 days ago
There are good people in the media and politics.But most of the good ones don’t whore themselves out
Beatlex

7 days ago
Any truth to the rumor that CNN is hiring Bill Cosby to cover entertainment news?
AdLib 7 days ago
Harleigh–yea, I understand the suites are great!
glenn

7 days ago
yes, harleigh, we mentioned it earlier about his making profit from Brexit, if that’s what you mean
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Yeah, I think Cooper is one of the good folks.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Ad–LOL!
glenn

7 days ago
glenn – Agreed, that was a fantastic moment for Cooper! Very glad he did that.
AdLib 7 days ago
Cooper has skin in the game. But he was on the right side.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT – Yep, just wish Cooper and others would be as comitted to doing the right thing and confronting pols even when it isn’t an issue they’re directly connected to.
AdLib 7 days ago
Me too Ad. There so few who actually do that. Maddow and Lawrence come to mind.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Trump congratulated Scotland for getting their country back by getting out of the EU!! They were furious at him and his stupidity. they voted 52% to 48% to stay in EU.
Harleigh

7 days ago
Oh, missed that one, H! Oh Boy!!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Trump’s blowhardedness is being realized the world over.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Finally!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
I think the media and entertainment conglomerates have spun a web of bullshit for all of us to consume.We have no power or real choice,new ideas are needed
Beatlex

7 days ago
Just think, the Tories have destroyed the Brits’ social safety net, their economic future and maybe broken it apart into a smaller nation. That’s what Conservatives can do foor you!
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad,I agree,it was like an American fear fest
Beatlex

7 days ago
ah B, there were some congress critters that proved you wrong recently. I don’t know what’s taken them so long.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
trump has less of a clue than me and that is fuckin scary such a dumbass be worse than Bush and run.
Harleigh

7 days ago
KT-Who?
Beatlex

7 days ago
True, Ad. Now Scotland may cecede from England and Wales, and a United Ireland is possible, but unlikely. NI voted to Remain inn the EU, where the Republic still is.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Harleigh – Actually, Scotland voted 62-38 to stay in the EU. Trump got swarmed with hate Tweets from Scots!
AdLib 7 days ago
CAnny lot, the Scots!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
A whole bunch of dem representatives who stood up to the GOP by staging a sit-in on the floor of the house. They shamed the GOP…big time.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
PPO – I wouldn’t blame Scotland for going independent but they represent a lot of the Labor vote so the remaining UK will be even more conservative.
AdLib 7 days ago
i’m talking about congress critters here. That’s astonishing.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Yes KT! That is not over I think,John Lewis doesn’t F around
Beatlex

7 days ago
Sorry AD, my numbers came from a Newsmax story that always stokes more hate than accuracy! LOL
Harleigh

7 days ago
no he doesn’t B. He’s a principled man who doesn’t take shit lightly.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT–Love those congress critters who sat down to stand up for the American people. John Lewis gets it done!
glenn

7 days ago
He’s also a very wise man.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Ad, that’s n ot necessarily so. The industrial North of England voted overwhelmingly to Exit.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
KT – Our Dems made me so proud! And did you see how slimy and scared Ryan came off trying to ignore them and run out of town. Such cowards! Why anyone still thinks of Repubs as tough, I’ll bever know. They’re bullies like Trump who wilt when faced with a real confrontation.
AdLib 7 days ago
Although he didn’t get the vote on the floor yet; hope they keep pursuing it after the break.
glenn

7 days ago
KT,that was awesome! I stayed up really late for that
Beatlex

7 days ago
He sure did. He had a lot of help though. That was amazing. The GOP is being forced to do their job. Isn’t it pathetic that this is what it takes?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Harleigh: Scots voted by 62 percent to 38 percent to remain in the EU, according to Friday’s results, in contrast to the overall U.K.-wide result of 52 percent to 48 percent in favor of quitting the bloc. http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/brexit-referendum/scotland-could-seek-independence-again-after-u-k-brexit-vote-n598166

Brexit Triggers New Bid for Scottish Independence
Scotlands government began moves Friday to hold a new referendum on independence from the U.K. after the “Brexit” vote.

AdLib 7 days ago
glenn, are you talking about the Terrorist John Lewis, or another one?????
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
KT,It shows how broken things are
Beatlex

7 days ago
I caught most of it today in video clips. It was truly history in the making.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Ad–exactly. Why anyone thinks repubs are good for the economy is another mystery of our times. As I said before, if we really had a liberal media, then every time repubs said something about the economy, the reporter would come back with the figures about how a Dem president is always better for the economy than a repub one. Always!
glenn

7 days ago
As it was intended to do B.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Yes KT!!
Beatlex

7 days ago
PPO–the “terrorist” John Lewis. I just love that man! And to think, he’s a GA rep. Not my district, but at least he’s representing some of us in GA!
glenn

7 days ago
PPO – LMAO back in the day Lewis was ‘uppity!’!
Harleigh

7 days ago
PPO – Saw an operative from Labor on tv today, saying that Labour just dooesn’t have a big enough coalition to re-take power and that Scotland represents a lot of Labour voters.
AdLib 7 days ago
LOL Harleigh. And a lot worse than that!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Harleigh–back in the day, John Lewis had his head bashed in–literally–for being so uppity!
glenn

7 days ago
Ad, that’s a bit of a worry, but maybe the Conservatives will face a huge backlash at the next election
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Yeah, in Selma Alabama.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
How disgusting is the NRA for attacking Lewis as a terrorist? And how disgusting is it that an entire party openly declares it can’t support what 90% of the natioon wants because it’s beholden to a greedy special interest group that profits from the killing of innocent Americans?
AdLib 7 days ago
glenn and Harleigh, maybe the word ‘terrorist’ is now being used instead of ‘uppity’
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Really Ad,sooner or later we will win,chip away
Beatlex

7 days ago
Let’s keep up the mantra, Ad – THE NRA IS ARMING TERRORISTS
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
The NRA owned congress critters are the terrorist sympathizers. They sell guns to terrorists, and want to keep on doing so.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Lewis was an icon and kept on even after MLK was gone. He walked that scary walk, and is quite a man.
Harleigh

7 days ago
I actually met him, about 20 years ago.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
A genuine Hero, H. WOW, KT that’s awesome.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
I remember barack and michelle doing terrorist fist bumps!! bwahahahaha
Harleigh

7 days ago
PPO – Sure hope that’s the case but Labour’s in disarray too since Corbyn was ineffective and weak in promoting opposition amongst Labour voters to oppose Brexit. They’re trying to remove him now: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-36621777

Labour MPs submit Corbyn no confidence motion – BBC News
Two Labour MPs submit a motion of no confidence in Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn following the UK’s vote to leave the EU.

AdLib 7 days ago
PPO–I’m with Ad. How dare the NRA call a man who has devoted his life to fighting for civil rights for ALL people a terrorist? I really believe the tide is changing, finally, though. The group, Moms Demand Action is becoming more visible; Dems are finally getting a spine, so I think things are looking up–at least as far as gun laws go. We’ll never get to the point the Aussies are; but at least we’re getting some movement.
glenn

7 days ago
PPO – Absolutely!
AdLib 7 days ago
I was fortunate enough to have a doctor who is good friends with Mr. Lewis. She invited me to a seminar he was attending in Columbus. It was a brief meeting, but I got say a few words and shake his hand.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT – That is very cool!
AdLib 7 days ago
It truly was Ad. the man has real gravity.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Better later than never…Tammy Duckworth is wearing me out…..
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Harleigh–and MIchelle and Barrack are still supporting the terrorists, dontcha know?
glenn

7 days ago
Harleigh – The world according to the NRA: 1. Terrorist Fist Bumps are a threat to the nation. 2. Protecting the right of terrorists to get assault weapons is patriotic.
AdLib 7 days ago
Love Tammy! How’s it goin Murph? Long time no see.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT–that is awesome.
glenn

7 days ago
It truly was glenn.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Hey Murph! Tammy’s putting you to work a lot?
AdLib 7 days ago
I felt humbled.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
In the bigger picture,”civilization” has proven to be a failure. The world has been divided by religions and different forms of governments. With their own agendas.There is no viable way for us all come together for what needs to be done.IMO
Beatlex

7 days ago
hey murph
Harleigh

7 days ago
KT….Howdy…good to see you as well….Tammy is wonderful but the campaign in Southern Illinois is wicked mean.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Hey Murph–good to hear from you.
glenn

7 days ago
Murph!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
KT – Must’ve been quite a memorable moment.
AdLib 7 days ago
I have no doubt about that Murph. I take you have been experiencing that first hand?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Ad…indeed….because of my time in Missouri, hostile territory, they have put be in the lion’s den of southern illinois.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
One of my best, Ad. But then, I’ve had a lot of them, fortunately.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Hi Glenn and PPO….nice to touch bases this week…weekends are campaign primetime.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
And, with that being said, it’s time for me to move on out. I won’t be here for the next two weeks. I’m going to visit a friend in Michigan. Going to see some of the Great Lakes, and go through the locks at the St. Lawrence Seaway to see the 4th of July fireworks. I’m really psyched! Take care all, and see you in a couple of weeks.
glenn

7 days ago
And last night I was up late talking with friends in the UK…..nearly all of whom are very upset.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Envy you, glenn. Have a great vacation and see you in a couple of weeks.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
you’re in for a great time glenn! I wish you much fun!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Beatlex – I think “civilization” is exactly what it could ever be, a conflict of people with strong emotions and beliefs, always bumping up against each other. Sometimes working together and sometimes fighting. That will never change. What we try to do is try to increase the good and decrease the bad but there will always be both. Reality is the necessity of duality, inescapable.
AdLib 7 days ago
Murph did you remember to bring your RONCO bullethole repair kit?
Harleigh

7 days ago
Glenn….have a wonderful time.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
How cool, glenn! Have a wonderful time!
AdLib 7 days ago
later glenn…. enjoy!
Harleigh

7 days ago
Hey, if it’s RONCO, it’s the best!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Harleigh…hah…WOW!
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – I think the UK is now permanently damaged thanks to the Tories and Cameron. It will be many years before they can even hope to recover some of what they’ve lost.
AdLib 7 days ago
I know I’m not going anywhere near the republican convention in Cleveland. and I live in Ohio!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Ad…where are you on the BRexit event?
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
big mistake Murph.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT – Aw, you could be our live reporter! Interviewing the violent protesters wearing your, “PlanetPOV” t-shirt!
AdLib 7 days ago
I think their conveshun should allow guns AND free drinks.
Harleigh

7 days ago
KT…..I ver much agree.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
I have a daughter, Ad! I’d like to stick around a while.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Murph – It is a permanent damaging of the UK and the nationalists who manipulated the voters to side with them will pay a big price as the damage sets in and people realize how messed up their country is now.
AdLib 7 days ago
There will be lots of guns, outside the convention hall. Rednecks, heavily armed, and all wearing hairshirts. What could possibly go wrong?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Murph – What do you think about Brexit?
AdLib 7 days ago
Harleigh, just like Don the Con wanted the people at Pulse armed and pissed when the gunman walked in.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
We a a specie are brilliant.But are screw ups are monumental too
Beatlex

7 days ago
Harleigh – And there should be a target shooting competition between delegates after a long night of drinking!
AdLib 7 days ago
KT- ‘hold mah beer an watch this!!!
Harleigh

7 days ago
KT – Well, if you insist!
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad…very much agree. My friends are mostly fellow academics…..as one of my pals wrote last night: “Very mis and ill informed people have been maneuvered into voting against their own interests….AGAIN!”
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Kt, Thish here thing ain’t Load…..awwww sheeeeit!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
no lack of allegiance to the Planet, but self preservation has taken hold.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
I mentioned this earlier, I am annoyed at the MSM trying so hard to claim the Brexit vote means Trump could be as victorious. So many different factors at play, mainly that Trump is hated by 70% of the nation!
AdLib 7 days ago
LOL P. That has actually happened thousands of times.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Sadly so, KT, sadly so.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Damn Hareigh, where’d my leg go?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Murph,such decisions should be made by the leaders we elect.It just becomes a fear fest if left up to the voters(ala America)
Beatlex

7 days ago
97 of this countries poorest counties are in red states and those counties are hardcore repubs! Absolutely no fuckin sense.
Harleigh

7 days ago
Ad, I sincerely hope that Brexit will cause a lot of Trump-leaning folk to think again.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
One of my best friends, and a fellow student in grad school at Cambridge, tells me that he thinks that the the referendum will be recalled. The petition on the government site set up to handle requests to government has close to a million signatures on it. 100,000 requires the Parliament to take it up.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph,then what?
Beatlex

7 days ago
Hareigh, that’s why all the Trump supporters are so pissed. But they’re so stupid to realize that their voting rep all these years has brought about their dissatisfaction. Truly stupid people.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT,ANGRY stupid voters
Beatlex

7 days ago
And they’re dangerous B.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
The powers that be love it KT
Beatlex

7 days ago
Murph, I’m sure they’re scrambling to see what they can do to nullify the Vote. There is one thing. There is no LEGAL obligation for the Perliament to actually heed the reesult! There is of course the matter of self-preservation of any politician who doean’t follow the will of the people. But we’ve seen that trampled onbefore, havent we?
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Murph – Exactly how I see it, Brits whoo are angry and scared were manipulated and lied to. Farage and Johnson assured them there wouldn’t be any economic problems if they won, just the opposite, the UK would be booming and making them all rich. They even promoted a massive lie about the UK paying the EU £350million a week that would instead go to NHS (national healthcare). It was a big fat lie! http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/24/nigel-farage-350-million-pledge-to-fund-the-nhs-was-a-mistake/

Nigel Farage: £350 million pledge to fund the NHS was ‘a mistake’
Nigel Farage has admitted that it was a

AdLib 7 days ago
Again…”they’re.” Maybe it’s the brownie I ate an hour ago?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Beatlex…the idea is that Parliament would take up the petition, cite the many emerging polls that show that the regret is huge and growing in no small part because of the outright lies now being uncovered…..and decide to either redo the referendum or to find other means to explore the issues. Referendums are non binding….
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Thx M
Beatlex

7 days ago
PPO…but what if the real will of the people is to register their disgust with aspects of the EU but not to walk away? That is the tack I think they wil take.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Back now, what did I miss?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
well i gotta go folks. have a great weekend!
Harleigh

7 days ago
Bye Harl
Beatlex

7 days ago
Ciao, Harleigh
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
LaFarge is a nasty piece of work. I thought Johnson was made of better stuff. Seems not.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
You too Harleigh. Remember, we’re here to enjoy.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
By Harleigh.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – From what I’ve heard, they can’t recall the referendum. Once held, it can’t be recalled or it invalidates the whole concept of having such a vote. The UK is stuck with it now, the nationalists will be taking over the government to ensure Brexit takes place. Those rightfully wanting to reverse it will be disappointed.
AdLib 7 days ago
Just maybe Trump will finally offend enough to get the congress back.He will have done a service if that happens
Beatlex

7 days ago
Here’s hoping, Ad. It is bewildering the amount of stuff all the talking heads are chundering out.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
it just might B. It just might.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Another of my friends says she has a neighbor who has been a huge proponent of Brexit and was ecstatic last night…..only to come knocking at her door this morning a ripped up mess because of quick look at her retirement portfolio and word that her husbands company was going to move to the EU because it said that is what they would have to do.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Beatlex – Between Trump and the Dems becoming more activist, the Repubs are looking more and more like the losers who need to go.
AdLib 7 days ago
That’s all talking heads are good for P…talking.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Even R’s are balking Ad!
Beatlex

7 days ago
I think the dems have placed a stink on the GOP that won’t wash off for a long time to come. Actually, the GOP put the stink on themselves. The dems finally stood up and said “Take a wiff America.”
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
murph, suggest that the lady tell her husband to get the company to move to Ireland! closer and they speak English, sort of.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Ad…the referendum is non binding. It is advisory. Another referendum can be done but that is unlikely. I think that the Parliament may commission a series of very public fact finding efforts to show that the referendum results are not representative of the national will.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
PPO- good suggestion…800 jobs in Leeds.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph,who decides if it is binding?
Beatlex

7 days ago
Beatlex…all referenda are non-binding. They are advisory.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
LOL P! “sort of!”
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Any Parliament that holds a referendum like this and then ignores the result, does so at it’s own peril. But the conmen will surely try.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
It was a 5 point victory,or close
Beatlex

7 days ago
Murph – I’ve seen multiple voters regretting their support for Brexit now that they see that the experts who the pro-Brexit pols were attacking as dishonest were correct. What you describe is just the tip of the iceberg, the UK financial industry is gooing to come crashing down and so many other companies and investors will flee. These ignorant people have set their own house on fire after being told it will transform into a mansion and just now are learning that they’ve only burned down their house. I do hope there is some way for the UK to reverse course but I haven’t heard one legit way that they can.
AdLib 7 days ago
PPO….greater peril…follow through and the country goes into the toilet and they get blamed for that….if they are going to set the referendum aside they are going to have to commission a major fact finding effort, very public, very transparent to show that referendum did not reflect the will of the people.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
KT, Ireland ( the Republic of) is encouraging companies to base there out of the UK! Good business!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Well good Planet peeps, I must say so long and farewell, for now. Take care all, it’s been nice chatting, as usual.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Bye KT!
Beatlex

7 days ago
Night KT! Seeya over the weekend for the music thread!
AdLib 7 days ago
G’night, KT. Great chat today. Congrats to all.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Ad…it is your description that would be reflected in a Parliamentary effort to discredit the Referndum results…..Cameron’s decision not to step down immediately (October!) gives room for that to happen.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Nite KT…
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
I’m going to call it a day as well. take care y’all see you next week.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Nite PPO – glad I caught up to you guys for a while.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Cheers, murph.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
I heard that the EU is going to play hardball and get them out quick
Beatlex

7 days ago
Murph – The problem with that is that it would destroy the legitimacy of the UK government and ignite an angry uprising throughout the UK. They can’t just ignore the referendum, they have to follow it. Again, I haven’t heard from one reputable source that Parliament can just wiggle out of following the will of the people.
AdLib 7 days ago
Beatle…EU does not want UK to leave….and cannot really force it since Article 50 governs the process but I think they are putting public pressure on the UK to face up to what has been done AND THEN UNDO IT.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Can they though? Murph
Beatlex

7 days ago
Granted, the public was horribly misled about what would happen due to Brexit but the truth was out there, they chose noot to listen to or care about it. I don’t see that calling for a do-over would look like anything other than the Establishment ignoring the will of the people.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad…IF Parliamentarians in large numbers are being assaulted by very angry constituents, even in districts where the vote was to exit, then the question will be how do legitimately represent their citizens.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – Don’t you think the majority of those supporting Brexit will go nuts against the goovernment if it tries to find a way to ignore the referendum?
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad,that opens up the argument about getting people to react emotionally.They did have 78% vote
Beatlex

7 days ago
The Times London is reporting that its flash polling is now showing a 60 percent rejection of the exit….what the hell….expect the Guardian to really dig into this….what is the duty of a legislature….to cooperate with a propaganda victory or do what is necessary to preserve the nation?
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
There are other countries n the EU ripe for the same thing
Beatlex

7 days ago
Beatlex – Exactly. I think that if Brits were properly educated aboout Brexit, they would have rejected it. I don’t want to see this happen but I also don’t want to see the UK deteriorate into a civil war. As horrible as this is, they can’t ignore the results of a vote, even if it isn’t literally binding. The UK government will lose its integrity and the trust of the people if it ignores the results. The operation could be a success but the patient will die.
AdLib 7 days ago
My friends tell me that many of those who voted with the exit are quickly realizing what a muck up it all is…especially those who call Labour their home party…
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
It’s a fine mess AD
Beatlex

7 days ago
Murph – A poll can’t really be held up to dispute an election. I would hope that maybe after a while, trying to work through the 2 years of getting out that the UK holds one final vote approving Brexit, perhaps that’s the way but there can’t be another referendum right after this one.
AdLib 7 days ago
I just did a quick check on the UK government site where the petition is mounted……it has crashed three times…more than 1.5 million are now signed on…my guess it will continue to grow day by day.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Ad..no poll by itself but as part of a wider info gathering…yes.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Well…interesting…I am brain dead…..time to fold the tent.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Goodnight Beatle and Ad. MTS
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – Of course, now that many pro-Brexit voters have seen the Pound and the UK economy tank, they’re regretting it. Why didn’t they try to learn about it before they voted?
AdLib 7 days ago
Night Murph
Beatlex

7 days ago
Well, looks like it’s time to wrap Vox for the night. Have a great weekend Beatlex and be glad Canada has gone in the right direction with Trudeau while the UK has again voted against their best interests.
AdLib 7 days ago
Trudeau is a subject for another time,By Ad!
Beatlex

7 days ago
Night Beatlex!
AdLib 7 days ago
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