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The Right Wing’s Psychotic Version of God

The problem with the types of mental illnesses you mention, KT, are they are all a type of psychosis that both noticeable and usually treatable. The people that are responsible for mass killings are usually psychopathic and their symptoms are less noticeable, almost subtle to the average person who isn’t close to them.

» Posted By bito On July 22, 2012 @ 9:31 pm

Those were his drinking and partying years

» Posted By bito On July 22, 2012 @ 7:23 pm

Remember AdLib in the Heller decision SCOTUS decided that that comma was just there, it didn’t mean a thing.

» Posted By bito On July 22, 2012 @ 5:57 pm

KT. all good thoughts, my problem is that in Europe both before and after the revolutionary war they practically were charter members of the war of the week club.
Perhaps at some point after WWII they had complete change on the taking of lives because it was so up close and personal. The killings happened in their town and cities, something the US has not seen since the civil war.

» Posted By bito On July 22, 2012 @ 4:26 pm

C’Lady, you may like to read this, it does have some similarities to what you are saying. Interesting.

The Psychogeography of Gun Violence

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/01/the-psychogeography-of-gun-violence/69353/

After considering possible explanations having to do with poverty, slavery, and even the region’s hotter climate, he found a different answer in a cultural vestige of pastoralism: a deep “culture of honor” in which residents place an extraordinary value on personal reputation, family, and property. Threats to these things provoke aggressive reactions, leading to higher rates of murder and domestic violence

» Posted By bito On July 22, 2012 @ 3:59 pm

k’es, great question and it has been bugging me since I read it. C’Lady (below) certainty has some good thoughts.

I will be the first to admit my anti-NRA reaction does seem like a knee-jerk and it doesn’t get to your basic question at all. I am just so damn tired that every 18.25 days we have a rerun of another mass murder, Mylar balloons, flowers, candles and stuffed teddy bears and the picture in my own mind of Gabby and the young child that was murdered within moments from my house. Wash. Rinse Repeat. Meanwhile the NRA and the gun industry collect their blood money, spread their campaign money spread fear and blackmail congress. (and collect their untraceable money)
You’re right, there is more to it.
Could it be America’s “rugged individualism” our we can make it on our own personality that we don’t share with others or even notice others problems? We’re just too busy and “they can work it out on their own,” I don’t want to pry” attitude even with people we see and work with every day?
Are we an isolationist people? We don’t notice the warning signs, “it’s none of our business”?

I did read an interesting article on individuals but how can it be used for society as a whole?
Colorado “Batman” Shootings Eerily Similar to Others Involving a Lack of Cognitive Control
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/2012/07/20/colorado-batman-shootings-eerily-similar-to-others-involving-a-lack-of-cognitive-control/

The cognitive control capacities of the subject get somewhat redirected—we don’t quite understand how—toward goals and activities that are violent in a very specific way. Not the violent outburst of somebody who has “lost it” in a bar, punching people right and left. The violence is channeled in a very specific plan, with a very specific target—generally fed by the media through some sort of rhetoric, political or otherwise—with very specific tools, in the Giffords case, a 9-millimeter Glock.

Does it come down to education, we both have to learn the warning signs and take the time to help others, compassion?

Great question and topic, k’es. looks like a post that you can handle in your future. Sad to say, there will be an occasion to write it in 18.25 days.

» Posted By bito On July 22, 2012 @ 3:32 pm

‘Looie’ saying that John Adams said something makes me highly suspicious that Mr. Adams said any such thing, same goes for ole’ Ben.
He didn’t quote either one of them, he interpreted and paraphrased something.

(edit: oops, looks like KT already made this point below. https://planetpov.com/2012/07/20/the-right-wings-psychotic-version-of-god/comment-page-1/#comment-187064

» Posted By bito On July 22, 2012 @ 1:32 pm

Oh, I believe you, C’lady, you have the experiences to know. Luckily, I am not a public person and would have a difficult time tracking me down.

» Posted By bito On July 21, 2012 @ 8:01 pm

I would pay to see it! It may be somewhat humiliating for Bill Moyers and Looie probably wouldn’t be able to understand what Bill is saying, but I would pay!

» Posted By bito On July 21, 2012 @ 7:46 pm

Worth Watching!

Video Essay: Living Under the Gun

In a web-exclusive video essay, Bill Moyers says Friday’s deadly shooting in Colorado is yet another tragic indication that our society — and too many of our politicians — covet guns more than common sense or life itself. The National Rifle Association in particular, Bill says, “has turned the Second Amendment of the Constitution into a cruel and deadly hoax.”

http://billmoyers.com/segment/bill-moyers-essay-living-under-the-gun/

This in part is what I was feebly attempting to say yesterday, that the whole Second Amendment/Gun Rights/NRA is but a multimillion dollar scam put into place to retain reelection, greed and power for a few.

» Posted By bito On July 21, 2012 @ 7:36 pm

Yep, I liked it too, it’s a keeper.

» Posted By bito On July 21, 2012 @ 6:21 pm

😆 I think there is some drool involved in there somewhere, somehow. 😉

(Their site is complete gibberish)

» Posted By bito On July 21, 2012 @ 6:06 pm

This was aimed at Louie, AdLib, I should have made myself clear on that. According to the article he was a good church going person, so where does that fit into Louie’s “not enough God” argument?

» Posted By bito On July 21, 2012 @ 5:57 pm

KT, “Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.”

Samuel Johnson (1709–1784), British author, lexicographer.

You might like this one:

Patriotism is a lively sense of collective responsibility. Nationalism is a silly cock crowing on its own dunghill and calling for larger spurs and brighter beaks.[….]
Richard Aldington

» Posted By bito On July 21, 2012 @ 5:45 pm

James Eagan Holmes has been described as a shy and well-mannered young man by a neighbor, who claims the Colorado shooting suspect was heavily involved in his local Presbyterian church.

» Posted By bito On July 21, 2012 @ 5:13 pm

That is why I posted it AdLib, he could have just as easily tweeted “I am a hypocrite” and been done with it. 🙂

» Posted By bito On July 21, 2012 @ 5:09 pm

AdLib, He pops up now and then on our timeline, usually to inform us where we went wrong in our thinking (was it that misspent youth? 😉 ), since he hasn’t made any personal attacks, he stays on our time line. Hey, sometimes it’s worth a good chuckle.

Unlike the “Fairtax” people, they have no problem calling us, PPOV, a bunch of blithering, ignorant…idiots. They are gone from our time line.

» Posted By bito On July 21, 2012 @ 5:05 pm

We received an interesting tweet on your piece AdLib.
(I’ll leave out the name of the sender)

@PlanetPOV I just excoriated ThinkProgress for the same thing. No politics on the #theatershooting. Stop.

No mention whether he excoriated Louie.

(In his profile he describes himself as a “Republican, Patriot..”, I’ve often wonder about what that “patriot” actually means.)

» Posted By bito On July 21, 2012 @ 4:08 pm

I apologize to everyone for being short, not a good day for me.
There’s just too many damn guns in this country and we pay for it daily.

» Posted By bito On July 20, 2012 @ 7:23 pm

Gun shows are legal as are personal sales legal in many states, no checks required.

» Posted By bito On July 20, 2012 @ 7:18 pm

KT, haven’t you ever heard of the gun show loophole? They can buy, sell or trade with out any checks but something that shows they are 18 and that is iffy.
Florida shows supply Virgina, Virginia sales supply DC and NYC…..

» Posted By bito On July 20, 2012 @ 7:16 pm

Oh screw the damn background checks KT, that’s not the only problem. Guns in this country are as easy to get as is sand in your shoes at a beach and we allow it to happen! it’s a multi-billon dollar industry that we won’t make any attempt to control because of fear. Some drooling gun nut can walk up and buy a gun out of trunk of a car in any town or city in this country because we can’t register them! Stupid.

» Posted By bito On July 20, 2012 @ 6:42 pm

I wonder if Louie believes a word of what he is saying or if it just serves his lust for power, greed and reelection (OK, Louie is pretty bonkers, so maybe he does)like so many others do.
I am going to be say that this has nothing to do with God, religion or faith but everything to do with the G.D. NRA and need to spread fear both on the unwitting Second Amendment fanatics and congress. They need to stay in business with their untraceable multimillion dollar scam.
I’m pissed, I’m tired of this God and Guns ripoff, we aren’t a nation of flintlocks and muzzle loaders any longer, we are a nation of cold blooded executioners supporting a multibillion dollar industry because of a quackery theory that “the Gubment is gonna take my guns” and the idolatry of the “Old West” with a “From my cold dead hands” mentality.

There were many towns in the good ole days in the west where one couldn’t walk in town armed, it was against the law, but now thanks to fanatics and the NRA we have concealed carry, open carry, carry carry “because we got rights!” Well, damn it, people have rights to go to a town hall meeting with their congresswoman, right to go to college or see a damn movie without getting shot at, wounded or killed!

But no, we can’t register guns, we can’t regulate gun manufactures (just enough to make sure they shoot deadly ammo correctly)and any angry ass or mentally unstable fool can walk into a gun show and walk out armed to the teeth. All it takes is the bucks.

Sorry for the rant, I’m damn pissed!

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» Posted By bito On July 20, 2012 @ 6:15 pm

The Apple Fell Far from the Tree

To all that you have mentioned Adlib, I can’t let go of what I see as a great deal of institutional breakdown. The rapidity almost seems to have started with he selection of GW Bush when many saw through the politics of the Supreme Court, from their it seemed to snowball. That one decision put doubt in so many peoples minds developing an even greater division. Then came the Bush tax cuts–division, the invasion of Iraq and the questioning of that further adding to the institutional breakdown. Then the housing/banking breakdown came along and so many things in that brought breakdowns, banks, flyby mortgage lenders, flyby appraisers…Then the Tea Party people backed by the libertarian Koch’s50 year old dream of not trusting government at all. That nothing good can come from government but deregulation and government is an intrusion in everyone’s lives (except “Keep you hands off my Medicare.) I may even throw in the Penn. St affair as another breakdown. Now we have the Banks a LIBOR scamming interest rates and revaluations that they may have also. been doing it with energy rates. And what do we get from the Mitt candidacy but a whole lot of mistrust and questions.

So just adding to all of what you said, our not being able to see what is good for the future, has been tainted by so mistrust and our breakdown in so many institutions tat we once trusted. Congress used to pass 5-6-7 surface transportation acts, no longer they do one year, 18 month pacts, afraid that the other party might do better/worse and collect the most campaign funds

» Posted By bito On July 17, 2012 @ 12:10 pm

When Will The Poor Get Their Chance?

You are a prolific writer and a damn good researcher.

» Posted By bito On July 16, 2012 @ 12:35 am

Hey Nomad, nice to see you here instead of just the 140 characters place. Stop by more often.

» Posted By bito On July 15, 2012 @ 4:47 pm

All that’s Mitt that Fits

Why am I not shocked at this, there is hardly a scrap of paper that the American voter can look at that hasn’t been destroyed, personal proprietary or hidden.

2002 Olympic papers unlikely to shed light on Romney’s leadership
Operational details of Salt Lake 2002 Games will not be included

People searching for insight on how Salt Lake’s 2002 Winter Games operated and how Mitt Romney led the effort may be disappointed when 1,100 boxes of Olympic archives are made public next month, according to the project director.

“I think they will have no answers,” said Elizabeth Rogers, curator of manuscripts at the University of Utah Marriott Library.

The records that the Salt Lake Olympic Committee turned over to the University of Utah do not appear to contain things like meaningful budget documents, internal memos, executive calendars and other records that might shed light on the internal workings of the Olympic organization, Rogers said.

[…]

As large as the project is, operational details of the Games will not be included. The Olympic Committee set its own policy on which records should be kept and which should be destroyed

And of course the alibi:

Romney — who had previously been criticized for failing to preserve records from his term as governor of Massachusetts — was gone from the Olympic Committee before decisions were made on what documents to keep and played no role in the decision-making, according to the Romney campaign.

Mark Jensen, who was hired as the SLOC archivist, said that personnel in each department had the discretion to decide what should be archived. Retention was voluntary, he said.

And this is handy:

“Anything we could disclose, of course, we couldn’t destroy that. Anything that had a legal or contractual requirement to be confidential … they were just destroyed,” Fraser Bullock, a longtime friend and business partner of Romney, who took the SLOC helm after Romney left, told ABC News, which reported on the status of the SLOC records Monday.

Bullock told ABC that he doubts Romney saved personal papers or calendars.

Much more>>> http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/54542587-90/romney-olympic-information-records.html.csp

Mitt takes the Nixon “Trust Me” with his secret ending of the Vietnam war to a whole ‘nother dimension.

» Posted By bito On July 23, 2012 @ 11:35 pm

The other part of it Sally, is that his whole “success” at Bain was done using “Other People’s Money including the workers pension funds, tax loopholes, the local and state taxpayer breaks and grants.

Anyone stealing a fifty year old working persons pension for the own enrichment is about as low as one can go in my book. Then he turns that loss over to the government so that the taxpayers can pick up the tab.

» Posted By bito On July 23, 2012 @ 9:12 pm

I’m not really sure which way to interpret this from Mitt.

Carr says Romney quoted his ‘US in decline’ remark out of context

FOREIGN minister Bob Carr says he wasn’t criticising America when he spoke of a nation “in decline” during a private conversation with Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney.

Foreign Minister Bob Carr and other Australian officials said that Mr Carr was praising American economic strengths during Sunday’s meeting. The meeting was kept secret until Mr Romney shared Mr Carr’s comments with donors later in the day.

“He said America is just one budget deal away from ending all talk of America being in decline,” Mr Romney said, while addressing roughly 250 donors at San Francisco’s Fairmont hotel. “I said, ‘Can I quote you on that?’ and he said, ‘Yes.'”

Seizing on the remark to criticise a lack of leadership in Washington, Mr Romney added that Mr Carr “led the talk of America being in decline.”

“See that’s not talk we hear about here as much as they’re hearing there. And if they’re thinking about investing in America, entrepreneurs putting their future in America, if they think America’s in decline, they’re not gonna do it,” Mr Romney said.

[…]

“The foreign minister’s remarks represent a considered assessment of the US economy and an antidote to talk of US declinism,” said Kim Beazley, Australia’s ambassador to the United States.

He said Mr Carr has identified increasing US energy competitiveness and continued inventiveness coming from Silicon Valley “as a sound base for the next progression in the US economy.”

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/world/carr-clarifies-us-in-decline-remark/story-fnd134gw-1226433452429

How many ways is this wrong? Why did Mitt take a private semi-diplomatic conversation and make it public for political purposes? How is it that he relayed the conversation 180 degrees from what the foreign minister meant, doesn’t he understand the Australian language? Is this what we can expect from him when he talks to foreign leaders? (I thought he said stand-up when what he said was shut-up?)

I know this may seem minor, but it just so wrong and fits into all of Mitt’s lying so sickeningly perfect. It’s not how one does diplomacy.

» Posted By bito On July 23, 2012 @ 8:22 pm

😆 VIDEO: I Didn’t Work At Bain


I Didn’t Work At Bain (by Hockey Mama For Obama)

H/T @GottaLaff http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2012/07/22/video-i-didnt-work-at-bain/

» Posted By bito On July 22, 2012 @ 2:24 pm

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