Displaying 16,201 To 16,230 Of 19,504 Comments *bows humbly* Thanks Cher, you are so kind! Earth sent me the following response to your question on the back of a leaf: EARTH: Actually, when the first humans said they were just staying for a few days until their cars were invented then broke down and could be repaired, I bought that story hook, line and sinker. I get mad at myself for being so trusting sometimes but before there were humans, I thought all BS came from bulls. » Posted By AdLib On April 23, 2010 @ 1:08 am Thinking about this, I’d have to say that the work by Bill Moyers that had the most profound impact on me was the series he hosted with Joseph Campbell, “The Power of Myth”. If you haven’t seen this, you haven’t yet seen what is one of the most brilliant and enlightening documentaries on the human race’s relationship with existence, religion and explaining it all through storytelling. Here is the first episode, I can’t urge you enough to watch this if you haven’t before…and even if you have! The Power of Myth – The Hero’s Adventure from John Allen Bell on Vimeo. » Posted By AdLib On April 21, 2010 @ 9:02 am Vox Populi – AfterChat – 4-16-2010 Wow, as someone noted, tonight we went from Goldman Sachs fraud to teabaggers, Hawaiian poi, the dishonesty of the GOP, Spam and God and the meaning of life. Not bad for a Friday night! Thanks to all for a thoughtful, serious and hilarious discussion tonight! For anyone who missed it and is interested, you can click here to check out the discussion: https://planetpov.com/live-events/vox-populi/ » Posted By AdLib On April 16, 2010 @ 9:31 pm Friday Music Thread – Tax Free “Laid back!” » Posted By AdLib On April 16, 2010 @ 2:54 pm Tea Party Ingredients: Old Hateful White Males on Social Security “You know I feel okay!” » Posted By AdLib On April 23, 2010 @ 8:54 am I’m right with you. This has always been and is a heavily funded propaganda movement financed by RW Republicans to undermine the Obama Admin and put power back into Repub hands. Simple logic: FreedomWorks is a wealthy RW org and Koch is the 6th wealthiest man in America, the largest contributor to Freedom Works. Someone please recount a single grassroots organization that was founded and financed by a multimillion dollar Republican fund led by a former Republican leader. Fox is a partner in this venture, sponsored and promoted the tea parties from the beginning and pounded the rest of the media into accepting this tiny group into a force. Remember the PUMAs in the Dem Primary? All the angry Dems that were supposedly voting for McCain? And all the media attention they got, pundits announcing how they would vote McCain? Yeah, what happened there? The MSM has morphed into a neverending version of the old CNN show, “Crossfire”. They have a financial stake (read viewership and ad bucks) in promoting any story that pits one group of people against other people, even if the group is tiny or bogus, to create the equivilent of one ultimate fighting match after another. And the suckers in the audience are entertained by the bread and circuses as Caesar (The Ruling Class) further steals money and democracy from them. » Posted By AdLib On April 23, 2010 @ 8:53 am You copied the search page at YouTube instead of the page with the video. Try your search again, click on the video you want in the search then copy and paste its URL. » Posted By AdLib On April 23, 2010 @ 2:38 am Choicelady, indeed we are on the same wavelength! These are the people who are the product of the Reagan Revolution way of thinking. Greed and selfishness are the sensible American traits. All for me, who cares about you? Is it any wonder we find ourselves in such a pathetic state as a society, when selfishness has become so enshrined in this nation? And for all the howling attacks on Obama as being a Muslim » Posted By AdLib On April 15, 2010 @ 12:09 pm Bill Against SCOTUS Decision – One To GROW On Sue, we are on the same page on all of this. The argument you mention is naturally one that will be made but even if it was a national bill to enforce social responsibility on corporations, they’d whine that they’d have to leave the country. Of course they’ll always threaten these things but the logistics of relocating to escape social responsibility is a harder case to make to shareholders and the public. Their argument will be an unattractive one, “As corporations we need to have all of your rights as ‘people’ but we also need to be above the law and superior to people when we commit crimes because we don’t want to be held responsible for our actions. We need to be sociopaths to make a profit.” My argument to this would be, “If you want to have the rights of ‘people’, you need to accept the responsibility of being a ‘person’ in this society.” The idea is, if it starts in CA and is successful, it can be spread to other states and before a corp could convince its board and shareholders to waste money on relocating to another state, that other state would be voting on similar social responsibility provisions. That would be my other argument, “Wherever you go, we’ll follow you and pass this proposition there too!” As for starting up a ballot initiative, I discussed this briefly with Choicelady in Vox Populi last week. She is familiar with the process, cost, etc (she and her group are helping sponsor the current Prop 15 for clean, publicly funded elections in CA…which I urge all Californians to promote and vote for!). Her advice would be invaluable in this pursuit. I thought the first best step would be to see how many here, in CA and in other states would be interested in working together to explore doing this first in Cali, as the beginning of part of a national project, to then spread such a proposition into other states. » Posted By AdLib On April 13, 2010 @ 4:12 pm Cool, me too! The thing about this bill and considering a California initiative is that they are actual concrete goals. That gives people something to come together over and work to accomplish. » Posted By AdLib On April 13, 2010 @ 2:52 pm Promoting such a proposition on the internet would indeed be something those not in the state could do. Why it may make sense to focus on CA is two-fold. First, CA is often at the forefront of progressive trends in legislation and the citizens have shown a willingness to support that. How Cali goes, many other states will go. Secondly, as the most the state with the largest population and with many major corporations based there, the passage of such a bill would have a big effect on millions of people in the state and around the country swiftly. » Posted By AdLib On April 13, 2010 @ 2:48 pm At Huffington Post, Nobody Knows You’re a Dog Heh! And shallow! » Posted By AdLib On April 12, 2010 @ 2:21 pm Well said and summarized! As Cher mentioned below, I think their “Combat Blogging” exploitation tactic has finally maxed out and losses of reasonable bloggers are exceeding the gains of outraged Dem clicks. I think many of us anticipated that this would finally come about, when you gin up hatred between trolls and Dems purely for profit on an alleged Progressive blog, things would eventually get toxic enough that the benefit would be outweighed by the cost. Still, as you say, there is no principle or values involved in this tact. It is purely about what they think might create more clicks and visits. SO when this high school popularity contest explodes into backstabbing and vitriol, as long as clicks and visits are up, it will stay as policy…until it too becomes less profitable. » Posted By AdLib On April 12, 2010 @ 2:19 pm Something else to consider about the texting/blogging/Facebook/Twitter society we now have… …are people becoming so reverent of their own opinions and thoughts that they are becoming less tolerant of opposing opinions and thoughts? I find it self-evident here that folks are interested by and open to others’ POVs but out there among the masses, is what they’re Facebooking and Twittering about of exaggerated importance to individuals? DO they have less patience and interest in other people and truly important things? As for some bloggers, haven’t we seen with them as with talking heads that they fall in love with their own thoughts and become closed off to considering other POVs…i.e., “thinking”? To me, that is the trap for some in all of this, a loss of perspective. Which is why I’m glad there are so many clever people here to keep me on my toes! » Posted By AdLib On April 12, 2010 @ 2:10 pm My POV is that people who are in the kiddie pool business won’t necessarily be very good or committed to the Adult Pool business. I know you’re just joking but of course it would be impossible to have such a setup logistically. I shamelessly would propose that The Planet is the Adult Pool and would be just as miserable and uncommitted to starting a kiddie pool. » Posted By AdLib On April 12, 2010 @ 1:59 pm FANNED! The NYT’s system is good, the only thing that could undercut it is if clicques formed there as they have at HP. I can’t think of a better way to go than in essence, deputizing the bloggers at a site to keep the peace. Ranking and/or flagging posts is the most sensible way to go IMO. » Posted By AdLib On April 12, 2010 @ 12:17 pm Yes, that’s the only reason I’m aware of for trolls to fave bloggers. I was surprised the first time I was fanned by a troll but soon understood why. » Posted By AdLib On April 12, 2010 @ 12:15 pm Right with you. Basing adult and responsible conduct on a blog using a superficial contrivance is not the best path, IMO. And if cliques are bad now, wait till this kicks in. I appreciated the sentiment behind it but having to use youtube links to bewilder trolls seems a bit off course from discussing issues. Well, it will be entertaining to see the evolution of cliques over there. » Posted By AdLib On April 12, 2010 @ 12:13 pm Rhose rar rary rood! Rhanks! » Posted By AdLib On April 12, 2010 @ 12:08 pm Rou’re relrome! » Posted By AdLib On April 12, 2010 @ 11:24 am This is typically…although fortunately not here on The Planet…a big problem on public blogs but I agree that the solution is not to require real names. The HuffPo solution is hugely flawed. Not only can trolls create hundreds of socks to “fan” themselves and be as “respected” as legit bloggers, they fail to see the blowback. HP is like Chuck E. Cheese in that the “kids” love to win “tickets” (Fans) and get as many as they can. People post there specifically saying, “Can people please fan me?”. People fan others there for a variety of reasons. Sometimes because of a brilliant post, sometimes because of a nasty attack on a troll, sometimes because of a shallow snark, sometimes they just want to follow others and fan people who have lots of fans. The competition for “fans” will only become more competitive and petty, IMO. And trolls can easily become as fanned as non-trolls. What it will do is create a classism, new bloggers will be treated as their opinions are inferior to long timers. Might those with more fans also become more hesitant to fan others, wanting to protect and limit how many others join the “elite” bloggers and may compete against them for attention? I hate the whole fan thing. It ends up pulling blogging down into high school popularity contests and creates a whole other focus on the site that has nothing to do with discussing political issues. As for limiting abuse, I think the opposite of “fanning” for comments is more effective and is used on many sites (including this one). If a comment is reported or flagged by a sufficient amount of people, it goes into moderation to be approved or deleted. Yes, it requires some oversight but by allowing the community to police itself, the most outrageous comments will quickly disappear and any wrongly attacked can be swiftly replaced. Combine this with a periodic monitoring of comments to try and nip conflicts in the bud, and things work pretty well. Fortunately, we have a “Character Detector” built into our sign up page that allows constructive people to register but in the case of trolls and haters, redirects them to their local tea party HQ. » Posted By AdLib On April 12, 2010 @ 11:23 am Cheers Sue! » Posted By AdLib On April 13, 2010 @ 2:53 pm Cheers Kes! Sue (and you) inspired me to build on this, check out my new companion article to Sue’s which proposes putting this to a vote by the people, starting in CA, through the proposition process. Let me know what you think. » Posted By AdLib On April 13, 2010 @ 12:09 pm What really gets me is that none seem to have any conscience. It is like they are out to make the money and screw the rest. It is exactly like that. It is how hedge funds and banks operate. They gut the businesses they buy to profit from then put lipstick on the pig to sell it for more money than they paid for it. The whole point of doing business this way is to plunder a company which naturally weakens it and harms employees, then hope someone else will buy it and own it when the spit and bailing wire comes apart. It is a fact, this can’t continue endlessly without a long term or permamnently collapsed society with 1% of haves and 99% of have-nots. What’s frustrating is that the people who should be most hostile towards corporations have been so easily duped by them to blame government for everything. Then again, if they were bright and used reason to make decisions, they wouldn’t be teabaggers. » Posted By AdLib On April 13, 2010 @ 12:05 pm Brilliant article, Sue! What doesn’t come as a surprise is that the mercenary logic of hedge funds and such who bought companies to slice them up and flip at a profit were decimating and destroying the integrity of everything they touched, killing the golden goose that is. It follows that, as with the derivatives crash, someone would finally be holding the hot potato when it exploded. What is worrisome is that this era of corporate psychopathy could come crashing down on the heels of a slow recovery from the related economic crash. Putting all of this in perspective, America was and continues to be raped by corporate capitalism and unregulated financial entities. And they have and will continue to get away with it until or unless the American public comes together and stands against corporate America with laws, rules and a different economic system. If this crash occurs along with commercial real estate and possibly another wave of home foreclosures, if the average American is out of work and losing their homes and jobs, might they then demand and vote to change this failing capitalist model of our economy? I don’t know. Looking at the teabaggers, what is dismaying is that people’s anger can be so easily re-directed from the rapist to the policeman for not stopping the rapist. And my desire for a different economic system is not one that is unrecognizable but one in which corporations are not people nor have the rights of one, where corporations are redefined as having a split responsibility to the investors AND employees AND society, where bonuses are directly connected to success on all of the three responsibilities above, where CEO salaries are capped to a reasonable percentage of the average employee’s, where workers are free to unionize, where investment entities are tightly regulated and forbidden from dealings that could be detrimental to the nation’s economy and/or the long term viability of a business. Yes, this would be very intrusive government control of our corporate and economic system. Just as most other nations practice. We’ve seen the destruction of our economy and democracy that an unregulated, self-correcting free market brings, that experiment is over and has failed. It’s time to join the rest of the world in an economic system that can be sustained without consigning 99% of Americans to a declining standard of living that in the end, would be just a small step above if not near corporate servitude and poverty. » Posted By AdLib On April 13, 2010 @ 10:12 am Let’s All Give Thanks for Bob McDonnell Nice to see you on The Planet, WakingLife! » Posted By AdLib On April 12, 2010 @ 10:07 am Ohio’s 18th District Is Bubbling COR – Thanks for the info and welcome to The Planet! » Posted By AdLib On April 12, 2010 @ 7:56 pm Vox Populi AfterChat – 4-9-2010 Hey all, thanks so much for another invigorating and fun VP! Bloom Boxes, breakthroughs in desalination and corporate responsibility, all positive things to consider! » Posted By AdLib On April 9, 2010 @ 9:24 pm Friday Music Thread – Music That Travels VOX POPULI IS ABOUT TO BEGIN! CLICK THE FOLLOWING LINK TO JOIN OUR LIVE CHAT ABOUT THE WEEK’S EVENTS: https://planetpov.com/live-events/vox-populi/ » Posted By AdLib On April 9, 2010 @ 7:01 pm Southern Accents – Tom Petty
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