Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PDT. Hope to see you then!
AdLib3 hours ago
Hey TW!
AdLiban hour ago
Hey Murph!
AdLiban hour ago
Hey Ad how are doing today? Lots to discuss.
twilson117
an hour ago
Murph is in the house.
twilson117
an hour ago
No kidding, TW. Did you see Jack Smith’s motion to muzzle Trump?
AdLiban hour ago
Hey glenn!!!
AdLiban hour ago
Ad Yes I have it here on my desk I was going through it.
twilson117
an hour ago
Good evening gents. Hope everyone is doing well.
glenn
an hour ago
He Glenn
twilson117
an hour ago
glenn – I’m doing well, how are you doing?
AdLiban hour ago
Hi TW
glenn
an hour ago
Ad— I’m doing all right.
glenn
an hour ago
Hi there. Especially to Glenn….
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
And it looks like the MAGA House impeachment inquiry on Biden is already self-destructing as they also are failing to pass the budget bills!
AdLiban hour ago
That’s good to hear, glenn.
AdLiban hour ago
Hey Murph. Thanks for the shout out.
glenn
an hour ago
Glenn…..think of you often…..I am glad to read that things feel good right now.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
A MAGA shutdown of the US seems very likely.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad— I can’t believe those stupid GOP senators are going to try and shut down the government again.
glenn
an hour ago
Oh thanks Murph. I try to get here as much as I can. I really enjoy talking to you all and getting a good perspective on what’s happening in the world.
glenn
an hour ago
The GOP ….. and to think I was once one of them….of course it was an entirely different entity at that time.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
All the House is in total disarray and McCarthy is two shades away from losing his speakership.
twilson117
an hour ago
Murph what made you change to a Democrat? And when did you change
glenn
an hour ago
glenn – The stupid GOP House has only passed 1 of like 14 bills that must be passed and only two weeks left but they are having a civil war over it. Just read that MAGA Moron Ron Johnson just threw a roadblock in the way of The Senate which was moving forward smoothly to pass aa budget. MAGA traitors want to destroy the country, who can argue otherwise?
AdLiban hour ago
Murph we won’t hold it against you for being an Ike Republican he was one of the reasonable ones. If he was alive the current Rep party would call him a traitor for fighting against Hilter.
twilson117
an hour ago
Murph – Being a Repub used to be an actual option for sane people.
AdLiban hour ago
Oh for sure, Ad. I’m not arguing with you.
glenn
an hour ago
Glenn …. I grew up in the South where the GOP was a party of progress….very much supportive of the civil rights movement….the party was an interesting amalgam of good sense, plus appropriate policy when Dems were the party of the KKK
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Ad what did Johnson do now??
twilson117
an hour ago
TW – I think McCarthy’s pandering has finally forced him into a corner that there’s no way out of, he slipped out of it here and there but now there’s nowhere for him to go. I’m so amused at Gaetz going after him! Over the next two weeks, Repubs may regret reversing the ban on guns in The Capitol.
AdLiban hour ago
Murph and I didn’t realize you grew up in the south. So when do you think the republican party changed? Was it during Reagan?
glenn
an hour ago
Yes, Ad a choice….when I moved to midwest, the GOP was the party of integrity in government….standing up to machine politics for ex.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Ad McCarthy may set a record for being the shortest speaker of the House.
twilson117
an hour ago
Murph I know it was true then but I don’t see any integrity in the republican party nowadays.
glenn
an hour ago
TW – Johnson has refused to do a consent vote to allow all of the budget bills to be passed as an omnibus, which is SOP for House and Senate. Now, each bill can be debated, amendments proposed, it gums up the works with only 2 weeks left until government shuts down.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad— Is Gaetz gunning for the speaker ship do you think?
glenn
an hour ago
Glenn….I could write a book on when and how it changed….but so many others beat me to it. I actually worked for GOP candidates for the Governorship, Senate and House….for me it was the corruption of the Nixon administration that tainted and turned the party along with its growing association with restrictive social policy allied with the embracing of right wing groups and the seizure of the NRA…so much.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Murph seeing how both parties operate I believe is good reason to be independent then caste your vote for candidate who most supports ones’ political views.
twilson117
an hour ago
Oh, Green, the contemporary GOP is craven and disloyal.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Murph although a lot of people have written books you should try it yourself. I think it would be a great book.
glenn
an hour ago
Murph – I still have good friends and relatives who are Repubs. I don’t debate any of it with them because it’s pointless but in the old days, I could have some good debates with Repubs who were rational. Today, it’s like debating the Manson Family that Charles might not be doing what’s best for them.
AdLiban hour ago
Glenn…what a fine judo to toss my way…….
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Murph you’re welcome
glenn
an hour ago
Ad…debsating the Manson Family….great analogy.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Ad— Yeah I’ve given up debating politics with the people here. I just can’t understand how they can support Trump I just can’t. So when they start talking politics I just get up and walk away.
glenn
an hour ago
TW – McCarthy has already set the record for The Speaker having the least number of vertebra so add this to his record breaking speakership.
AdLiban hour ago
L O L
glenn
an hour ago
Glenn Gaetz knows he has no chance of getting the role of Speaker, he wants to be in the stands and just bark at whoever has the job he has not leadership ability at all.
twilson117
an hour ago
The thing is that NO ONE can get and hold the Speakership in the House because the G0P is a party of pirhanas
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
TW— I suppose Gates thinks he’s getting some good publicity from all of this barking he’s doing.
glenn
an hour ago
glenn – No, I would guess Gaetz knows he could never win the speakership, he’s an opportunist and he sees that McCarthy is at his weakest now, if he can rally the MAGAs in The House to bring him down, Gaetz probably thinks he can be the kingmaker for the nest Speaker and get power like MTG did with McCarthy.
AdLiban hour ago
TW…good insight into Goetz goals.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Ad— As usual with three pubs it’s all about the power.
glenn
an hour ago
Ad Maccarthy has Jello for a spine
twilson117
an hour ago
TW— Yeah yellow Jell-O
glenn
an hour ago
Murph I think you should write your book and put your spin on it.
twilson117
an hour ago
Glenn Thats funny. 
twilson117
an hour ago
McCarthy said two weeks ago in several settings that any movement toward an impeachment inquiry would have to go the floor of the House……it did not…..he was forced to mandate it without any idea if there was support for the effort and without debate.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
glenn – I used to debate even obnoxious Repubs on HuffPost but eventually learned that the ones willing to debate merely want to get you upset and delight in that and the others are like cult members, they discount every word you say whether or not its backed up by facts. Pointless to debate cultists.
AdLiban hour ago
Yellow Jello…yep you nailed it.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Murph because the stupid people like Gaetz are pushing him to do that.
glenn
an hour ago
Murph – I think that’s very much the case. Who could become Speaker and not have to kowtow to the MAGA extremists or be thrown out?
AdLiban hour ago
Glenn I am sure that he had no choice….there would have been a vote….to dump him….his days are numbered.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Ad— Yeah I know what you mean I used to try to present facts to this one woman here but she just discounted everything I said. It was so frustrating. So now I just walk away.
glenn
an hour ago
Murph the money they are wasting on doing this so called Biden impeachment clearly failure of clear stewardship of their oath of office and fiscal responsibility in my opinion.
twilson117
an hour ago
Glenn what is that she sees in Trump that makes her believe in him?
twilson117
an hour ago
Murph – I saw McCarthy confronted by a reporter (Manu Raju?) about how he had flipped on his vow to hold a vote first before an impeachment hearing and McCarthy blathered with flopsweat dripping down as he blamed…Nancy Pelosi…for him being a liar and hypocrite.
AdLiban hour ago
TW— I hope many people in the US agree with you. Period 
glenn
an hour ago
Ad what else could he do?
twilson117
an hour ago
TW— That response got really screwed up. I do hope that many people agree with you and then it shows in the voting booths time around
glenn
an hour ago
I am surrounded by MAGATs here in Misery…….I was asked to day by a very obnoxious neighbor if I was going to “fall for the lies and get any other COVID and now the RSV vaccines. I told him I had lots of info about it if he was interested but that I suspect that he was buying the propaganda from his crowd. I then said…..I will however be sure to send flowers if you should get sick and perish…many have. And then I walked away.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
glenn – It’s hard for someone thoughtful and reasoned to go into a conversation believing that the other person is a mindless follower. There must be some way to reach them, we may think. But there isn’t. It’s like trying to explain Uber to a caveman.
AdLiban hour ago
TW— I don’t think it’s so much what she sees in Trump as what she thinks about the Democratic Party. She thinks Biden is a mess and she thinks the US is a mess. She’s not a fox viewer but she watches a lot of
glenn
an hour ago
TW….the GOP is a party of waste….so they haven’t a bit of reticence about spending our money.
MurphTheSurf3
44 minutes ago
Sorry she follows a lot of right wing outlets on YouTube and places like that. And of course she thinks that Biden is corrupt. When I try to point out that Trump is correct is corrupt
glenn
44 minutes ago
Murph – Well said to the MAGA guy. I would also like to ask him, “Are you saying you don’t know anyone who caught Covid and either needed to go to the hospital or died? Because I do.
AdLib44 minutes ago
When I try to point out that Trump is corrupt she just dismisses me and tells me that he’s rich and he doesn’t need to be corrupt.
glenn
44 minutes ago
Murph great response!
glenn
43 minutes ago
Glenn, so many folks listen to what others say, but will not do their own research or bother to read other opinions on things. It’s a lack of intellectual curiosity. Curiosity doesn’t go away when we get older if anything I believe it increases. But, that’s me.
twilson117
42 minutes ago
Ad— Yes as I said I have given up trying to get through to her.
glenn
42 minutes ago
Ad….my neck of the woods had a very high infection rate and very high death rate….did not faze them in the list…..the FBI was poisoning their water doncha know!
MurphTheSurf3
42 minutes ago
Murph you’re correct on that. They have been (and Dem’s also) for so long it’s something they see as a right of passage.
twilson117
41 minutes ago
TW— The sad thing about this woman is that she thinks she has done her own research. Unfortunately it’s with these out of the world right wing outlets. Some of the people she tells me she listens to I’ve never even heard of. And I think intellectual curiosity as you get older it’s because you have more time to pursue some of the things that you want to
glenn
41 minutes ago
TW…….I find that my Mega neighbors have deeply held prejudices and feelings that they have been robbed of their lives by the wicked left and they seek out anything and anyone who tells they are correct and should be honored.
MurphTheSurf3
40 minutes ago
Well gents I’m fading fast. So glad I got to talk with you guys tonight. Hope to see you next week
glenn
40 minutes ago
Glenn I agree with you on the older part for intellectual curiosity.
twilson117
39 minutes ago