Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PDT. Hope to see you then. AdLib 5 hours ago
Hi Ad, TW pinkpantheroz an hour ago
Hello AdLib PPO twilson117 an hour ago
Hey PPO how are things with you? twilson117 an hour ago
Nice to see a US President welcomed by the biggies pinkpantheroz an hour ago
Yes it is twilson117 an hour ago
Hey TW and PPO! AdLib an hour ago
Hey AdLib twilson117 an hour ago
Muttering along, thanks, TW. Usual health issues. Still looking at flowers from the right side! pinkpantheroz an hour ago
So PPO do you think Biden can bring some normalcy back? twilson117 an hour ago
Looks as if he already has, TW. Jjust hope people give him time. You can’t undo 5 years of mayhem in a few months pinkpantheroz an hour ago
AdLiB what’s with the judge who compared an AR15 to a Swiss Army Knife twilson117 an hour ago
TW – That judge is a GW Bush judge who is a nutjob. Plenty of experts say his ruling is nuts. AdLib an hour ago
Obviously the fool uses an ar-15 to get a stone out of a horse’s hoof and open a bottle of wine! pinkpantheroz an hour ago
PPO I agree, he seems to be off to a good start. But when someone stinks up the place for as long as Trump** did it will take time to get the stench to dissipate. twilson117 an hour ago
I use an AR-15 to shoot the tv remote when it’s not in reach when I want to change channels/ AdLib an hour ago
Ad I’m guessing the 9th circuit will overrule him. twilson117 an hour ago
Everyone is looking for instant gratification these days. You can’t have that with this level of evil and corruption. pinkpantheroz an hour ago
Hey Murph twilson117 an hour ago
Ad, that reminds me, I must get more ammo, my toenails need trimming! pinkpantheroz an hour ago
Murph!, Hi there pinkpantheroz an hour ago
TW – Absolutely, that judge is a moron and has zero legal grounding for his decision. He is disputing even Scalia! AdLib an hour ago
Hey Murph! AdLib an hour ago
Howdy folks…… MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
Hey Murph! AdLib an hour ago
Ad disputing Scalia oh Hell he’s got to go.
twilson117 an hour ago
Whoops, that’s two bales of “Hey!” for Murph. AdLib an hour ago
Ad….they all stack up. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
He could probably use a few bales, Ad. pinkpantheroz an hour ago
TW – In that terrible Heller decision Scalia championed, even he said governments had authority to restrict gun ownership. This bozo judge doesn’t even agree with the main ruling that said Americans had a right to have guns. AdLib an hour ago
So Murph I see you got your planting done. twilson117 an hour ago
Lockdown is easing here, but still a few cases being spotted. Ah, well, it is best we keep doing what we do. pinkpantheroz an hour ago
So is Barr going down for abusing the DoJ and spying on sitting Congressmen? AdLib an hour ago
Ad, there are a few saying the DOJ is starting something about Barr. pinkpantheroz an hour ago
PPO – At least things are going in the right direction. AdLib an hour ago
Ad, tweete* pinkpantheroz an hour ago
Ad couldn’t happen to a nicer guy. Hapless Sessions is in trouble as well twilson117 an hour ago
PPO – Yes, the Inspector General is going to investigate the DoJ’s apparently unlawful political investigation of Trump’s enemies. AdLib an hour ago
Hopefully, fogey Lindsay will be asked a couple of pointed Qs soon! pinkpantheroz an hour ago
We all knew Sessions and Barr were puppets for Trump but now it looks like there is proof of their corruption. Both need to be disbarred and prosecuted. As does Trump for abuse of power! AdLib an hour ago
PPO all the talking heads on MSNBC what immediate action by Garland, but, I think they need to slow their roll and allow some things to roll out so he gets it right. What say you? twilson117 an hour ago
What about Gladys Giuliani? Surely major hurt on the way there? pinkpantheroz an hour ago
TW, agree. Old bull and Young bull. pinkpantheroz an hour ago
Some Repubs are now saying it was fine for the DoJ to be used as a weapon against Democrats. And of course, they’re the same ones who howled about Obama spying on Trump and Repubs. The hypocrisy is now just 100% expected in every complaint any Repub makes. AdLib an hour ago
tw, I’d still love to see some paperwork being served on the cretins. Have to praise the FBI. they’re picking off the Terrorists one by one. pinkpantheroz an hour ago
Boragart Sessions is a hapless idiot. twilson117 an hour ago
Ad that’s to be expected they are all in for Trump** no matter what. twilson117 an hour ago
PPO I agree subpoenas should be served. twilson117 an hour ago
Whho is Weisenstein and is he important? pinkpantheroz an hour ago
TW – I have heard the same caution from others, including Choicelady, that Garland is doing what the AG should in continuing cases he inherited to support that principle but knowing the bad cases will be thrown out anyway. However, the Trump DoJ betrayed that in abandoning the government’s legal positions on the ACA, abortion, civil rights, etc. It is a travesty that Garland supported continuing gag orders about spying against Dem congressmen, having the DoJ try to kill the defamation suit against Trump (defamation is not a duty of the president), etc. AdLib an hour ago
TW, I hope that initial papers can be served, with enough to proceed. Getting all the ducks in a 100% line may be impossible. We have a saying here, ‘Near enough is good enough’ At least to begin. Refinement can come later pinkpantheroz an hour ago
My concern with Garland is what we saw with Mueller’s failing the nation. Prioritizing the practices of the institutions over justice. AdLib an hour ago
Ad, wouldn’t President Biden be able to pressure a bit for results without crossing the line? pinkpantheroz an hour ago
PPO – Do you mean Weiselberg, the Trump CFO? AdLib an hour ago
TW…yes got the planting done….9 truck gardens…..it has been very hot here and I am having to water much more than normal. My hoped for freer time has not materialized. And I am facing an identity crisis in the co-op I co founded her in Mo. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
Ad, yes. Oh boy, he would be vital, but will he squeal enough to topple TFG? pinkpantheroz an hour ago
Ad there is strong argument for what you are saying, The caution that Garland is taking to not look partisan is what will trip him up I think. What Trump** and his band of lunkhead did to normal rule of order, has to be addressed. Following the book many not be the right course in this matter. twilson117 an hour ago
PPO – I think Biden should at least discuss with Garland how this putting the institution first ahead of justice, when the actions being supported are the result of corruption, is actually harming the institution far more than dropping bad investigations and cases are. But I do agree, Garland shouldn’t take orders from the president, no AG should. AdLib an hour ago
Murph – So what are you thinking now with regards to the racists overtaking the co-op? AdLib an hour ago
Congrats, by the way for that brave young lady gettin a Pilitzer commendation, but it should have been the full deal, IMO.. pinkpantheroz an hour ago
Howdy all – good to see everyone. choicelady an hour ago
Hey CL! Was just talking about you a moment ago! AdLib an hour ago
CL! HI! pinkpantheroz an hour ago
My ears were burning. choicelady an hour ago
Murph, I get it. Doing a bit of research on the Tulsa Riot so I drifted into the Missouri compromise and I’m getting a better feel for the issues you’re facing. twilson117 an hour ago
Hey Ad, Murph PPO, and TW – the gang’s (mostly) all here! choicelady an hour ago
CL is in the house!! twilson117 an hour ago
Especially now that you’re here, CL pinkpantheroz an hour ago
Hey back atcha, PPO. TW! Yes – I am IN the house. choicelady an hour ago
TW – If we were in more normal times, I wouldn’t even pause at Garlands taking up the cases from the previous admin. But the problem is that he is using that normal practice on abnormal and corrupt cases and in a time of insurrection. Mueller played it by the book and was cautious and failed the country. That doesn’t work right now. AdLib an hour ago
Garland and others in the Biden admin do not seem to be operating as if both of their Congressional Majorities are very deeply threatened in 2022 and beyond. This time the minority presidency that Obama experienced after his first midterm will seem a cakewalk by comparison. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
CL – Burning ears is also a side-effect of being magnetically charged by your vaccine shots. AdLib an hour ago
OK – I’m wading right in on Garland. One – he’s pursuing the Barr/Trump case on presidential immunity to KILL IT. Obama did this with W’s “leftovers” that reeked. It’s what must be done to END any assertion that Trump made concerning Ms. Carroll’s ability to sue the bejeezes out of him. Otherwise it festers and lives as an assertion. Get the courts to kill it? Deader than a doornail. choicelady an hour ago
PPO – That was such a bit of wonderful news, the young woman who shot the Floyd video getting an honorary Pulitzer. I hope some news org mentors her now to become a journalist if she is interested in that. AdLib an hour ago
I havent been jabbed yet (grrrr). Looking forward because then I’ll always have my car keys attached! pinkpantheroz an hour ago
Ad – I thought the burning ear/magnetic boobs thing was related. choicelady an hour ago
Hi CL…. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
Hi Murph. How ARE you and how are things in MO? choicelady an hour ago
Murph – Exactly. Our democracy is on fire and Biden and Garland think their faith in the institutions will counter-balance that. Nope. When zRepubs are rigging the elections in states, you can’t unrig that by showing what great character you have. AdLib an hour ago
Ad I hear you. These are indeed abnormal times based of what Trump** did so it is going to call for different approach. The Republicans are all in for Trump** so playing the rules of the past is not going to work. Having said that I think we need to see what how Garland will handle all this Trump** calls for Barr and Sessions to appear before the Judiciary committee should be demanded now and Dems should not let up at all on this. twilson117 an hour ago
Garland Two – the creeps who hit Schiff and Swalwell and maybe others for Barr, NEED to be there for a time to TELL WHAT THEY KNOW. Garland is no wuss. He’s deeply strategic. Anyone notice DOJ is hiriing more attorneys to ENFORCE the VRA? The SCOTUS decision shot down prior review but NOT the VRA itself. So he can do this no matter WHAT gets done about HR 1 or HR 4. choicelady an hour ago
CL…I agree with your reasoning re. Garland’s strategy to neutralize the cases he appears to be defending. Bring them forward. Expose them to the light and they should wither. Should…but I am so distrustful of the Trump stacked federal judiciary. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
Ad – you are entirely misreading both Biden and Garland. I’ve worked w fed courts for years including right this moment, and what Garland is doing is EXACTLY what is needed. choicelady an hour ago
CL – I get what you’re saying. My point is what the fallout and perception of Garland and the DoJ is when they embrace defending corrupt use of the DoJ. Even if it is to use the system to kill those cases eventually, in the meantime, they are saying to the country, “These corrupt abuses of the DoJ deserve respect.” It undermines confidence in the DoJ and the rule of law even if the ultimate goal is to watch the courts kill them. AdLib an hour ago
Murph – Garland will be VERY careful where he files. Make no mistake. Obama via Holder had the same issue w W’s appointees. They know HOW to do this. choicelady an hour ago
CL…your Garland Two is a stronger case for me….using the tools that are in place in case new tools are not forged. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
I think, Ad, CL that this is where patience is needed. Not too much, but some. pinkpantheroz an hour ago
CL – Speaking officially for my gender, boobs have always been regarded as being magnetic. Magnetic foreheads though is something new. AdLib an hour ago
CL…I bow to your knowledge and experience in all matters legal……your positions deserve respect because you deserve respect. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
That nurse who tried to prove the magnetic side affects of vaxing was absurd but she is one of a far too many medical folk who stand in the of vaccination. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
Ad – instead of worrying about how it LOOKS, maybe we can point out WHAT IT ACHIEVES. I’m sick of worrying about how the faint of heart take bold actions – and want the bold action. I’m sick of dissing Dems, hand wringing and garment rending. Doing anything OTHER than how they’re going might give Bernites a boner, but it’s the fastest route to defeat. He is taking EXACTLY the right thing. choicelady an hour ago
CL…things continue to be a mess. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
TW – What is discouraging is that the DoJ under Garland is refusing to answer questions from Congress about what appears to be the political abuse of power of the DoJ in spying on 38 Dems and staff. They are refusing even to say if any Repubs were spied on. Garland has not reflected any good will as of yet on rooting out the corruption in the DoJ. He has continued some of it as a matter of fact. Even if it is intended to support the institution, continuing corruption is corrupt. AdLib an hour ago