Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events, begins tonight at 7:00pm PDT. Hope to see you then! AdLib 3 hours ago

I got lost looking for the ice wall and found myself back here. Khirad 2 hours ago

Heh! Bring your dragon. AdLib 2 hours ago

Dinosaurs are part of the hoax. Khirad 2 hours ago

And you’re not lost, you’re just south of Thighland. In the foothills. AdLib 2 hours ago

Yo: Semites! Khirad 2 hours ago

I thought dinoaurs lived side by side with human beings just a thousand years ago? AdLib 2 hours ago

Kent Hovind is a hoot, look him up later. Khirad 2 hours ago

What’s weird is that I expected Trump to say, “Yo AntiSemites!” AdLib 2 hours ago

Will do. AdLib 2 hours ago

I’m just glad we have Trump. That Biden fella might not be all there. Khirad 2 hours ago

Yep, Biden wouldn’t be able to brag about how well he remembered 5 words on a dementia test. AdLib 2 hours ago

I hear they’re having to change the definition of “idiot” in the dictionary because they feel Trump has made the existing definition obsolete. AdLib 2 hours ago

I say not only a padded cell to keep the demon sex dreams away, we give him an accordion. Even if he can’t play it at lieast his hands will have purpose. Khirad 2 hours ago

I heard that Karens should now be referred to as Ivanka’s now Khirad 2 hours ago

But it will keep slipping through his tiny hands. Maybe a kids xylophone? AdLib 2 hours ago

Ivanka have a higher IQ. AdLib 2 hours ago

Hi, Ad, Khirad pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Does Ivanka understand that she’s going to jail along with daddy after he loses? AdLib 2 hours ago

Khirad 2 hours ago

Hey PPO! AdLib 2 hours ago

Very funny! AdLib 2 hours ago

I feel sorry for the accordian. AdLib 2 hours ago

PPO – How is Fergie feeling now? Better after her fall? AdLib 2 hours ago

Hey glenn! AdLib 2 hours ago

What a week, Eh? NRA in shtook, Joe Arpaio bounced, Thighland joins Lapland . pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Glenn! pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Good evening, all. Hope everyone is well. Can’t see the top of the posts, but the dinosaurs dialogue sounds interesting! glenn 2 hours ago

PPO – Not to mention the Axios interview. AdLib 2 hours ago

Ad, Fergie is still v sore. We’re teleconferencing with the Doc on Tuesday next. He has limited movement, but v painful jabs in the shoulder. pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Quote of the week: “Perhaps you mistook them (republicans) for someone who gives a damn.” glenn 2 hours ago

Pelosi strikes again! pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

glenn – If you click in the comment window then use your “page up” key on your keyboard, you can scroll backwards. There’s also a tab that appears on the right hand side once you start scrolling. AdLib 2 hours ago

PPO – Sorry to hear that. Is it a bone bruise? AdLib 2 hours ago

Axios – but did it do damage where it was needed? pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

PPO–My best to Fergie! glenn 2 hours ago

glenn – That was a great quote from Pelosi! AdLib 2 hours ago

Ad, dunno. Most scanning shops are closed and we’re too scared to go to a hospital right now. pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Thanks, glenn pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

PPO – Is she able to take Advil? AdLib 2 hours ago

So Trump is making an EO saying people with pre-existing conditions can get health insurance. I guess no one told him Obama signed a law enforciing that 10 years ago. AdLib 2 hours ago

Don’t know Advil, sorry, Ad. We’re using codeine for the pain , Nurofen for any swelling and allsorts for so many other aches and pains. pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

A law Trump is trying to get struck down in court. AdLib 2 hours ago

PPO – Yes, Ibuprofen is the best if there’s no ssue taking it, actually reduces swelling. AdLib 2 hours ago

Hey Murph! AdLib 2 hours ago

Hey CL! AdLib 2 hours ago

Evening all – how are you? choicelady 2 hours ago

Ad–That Axios interview was a world-class lesson on how to interview the RTLB. My favorite part was when the RTLB handed the interviewer the paper with deaths; he looked at it, and understood it immediately, and told the RTLB what it was, and how the RTLB was wrong in what he was saying. Priceless! glenn 2 hours ago

He AdLib – good to see you. choicelady 2 hours ago

Doing well, CL. Planning a trip to Thighland. AdLib 2 hours ago

I don’t know why, by now, anyone isn’t aware that Trump is a dumb shit who says and does stuff just because he can and because he hates Obama and becuse he is a sadistic shit. There! pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

HeyCL–how are you? glenn 2 hours ago

CL! pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Murph! glenn 2 hours ago

Once had a girl from Thighland live w my family. Always thought it was pronounced differently, but hey – I’m merely a commoner. choicelady 2 hours ago

Hi PPO Hi glenn, Hi Murph the Magnificent! choicelady 2 hours ago

glenn – Agreed but to be fair, Swan was just doiing what most of us yell back at the tv when Trump lies. But other journalists are too worried about him getting mad and limiting access that they won’t question his lies. Swan was well prepared with facts though. AdLib 2 hours ago

Thailand is near Siam, I hear. pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Ad–really? I missed that about the RTLB’s EO. I thought we were supposed to have a great health care plan by now. Or is the EO the great health care plan? glenn 2 hours ago

Everyone – MO went for Medicaid, and Murph’s RW Redneck County went with that. Murph “done good” there! choicelady 2 hours ago

PPO – that’s what I always thought – Thighland was near Siam. choicelady 2 hours ago

CL – Same here, good to see you too! You and hubby are well I hope? AdLib 2 hours ago

Khirad 2 hours ago

Ad – we’re good. Off to lockdown in a hotel room in Fort Bragg just for a change of scenery. choicelady 2 hours ago

Ad – hope you and yours are doing OK? choicelady 2 hours ago

Hey Khirad! I used Rosetta Stone, left me in the dust. choicelady 2 hours ago

Thank you CL……and of course, my own county, whose denizens will benefit enormously from the expansion of medicaid, voted hands down against the whole thing. Dim, dimmer, dimmest. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

PPO – As you say, most of Trump’s EOs are illegal and non-binding anyway. And making an EO on an already-passed law is doubly meaningless. AdLib 2 hours ago

CL–According to Dinesh D’Souza, the RTLB pronounced it correctly, and the rest of us are wrong. Reminds me of parents of troubled children who would tell me that every teacher their child ever had said the same thing I was saying about their child. Of course, all the teachers were wrong; not the child! glenn 2 hours ago

Murph -I thought they went FOR it. Sorry – misunderstood. Damned fools. choicelady 2 hours ago

Is Thighland next door to Wing Stop? AdLib 2 hours ago

Glenn – how are things in GA? choicelady 2 hours ago

Change of scenery – sheer Luxury, CL! We’ve been in lockdown since feb! No excuse to be out? $2000 fine on the spot. Argue the toss and it is court and $20,000! And there are still dumbos killing us all pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

CL….my county did not but I live in the boonies….I worked hard to get a big turnout in St Louis. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Ad, Lapland pinkpantheroz an hour ago

glenn – Trump’s health care plan is always 2 weeks away ad has been for nearly 4 years. AdLib an hour ago

Ad–I know we had this discussion last week, but I still think more pushback is needed and journalists have to confront the RTLB with his own words. glenn an hour ago

Murph – good. At least it passed even IF you’re idiot compadres want it but wouldn’t vote for it. choicelady an hour ago

Glenn…it is not as if Trump did Dinesh a big favor or anything….like a pardon… MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

PPO – Lapland is pretty funny! My first offering was Thighland was near Legoland but I like Lapland better. AdLib an hour ago

I’m sorry, I was away offering thoughts and prayers to the NRA. Khirad an hour ago

Murph – You’ve got ACA Medicare in MO! Congrats! AdLib an hour ago

Murph – “even if YOUR…” I have too much on my brain. Grammar is going south… choicelady an hour ago

I am personally pleased to see the NRA in the spotlight…….I have friends who are ardent members and they, of course, regard the New York State effort as typical socialist zeal. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Crimea a river Khirad an hour ago

Murph – NY is not even remotely socialist. choicelady an hour ago

glenn, d’Douchebag is utterly unaware that the th…. sound doesn’t exist in the Thai language, just like it doesn’t in Irish pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Khirad – LOL! choicelady an hour ago

CL – Are you driving or flying to Fort Bragg? AdLib an hour ago

CL–Yeah, that’s great news about MO and Medicaid! glenn an hour ago

Oh driving. It’s four hours, and I think they have an airport I’d never dream of flying into. White knuckle type. choicelady an hour ago

I’m just so scared… Joe Biden is an antifa Leftist. Tell the Bernie Bruhs that… Khirad an hour ago

Ad….the GOP thought they won the day by putting the constitutional referendum on a primary ballot….instead it pushed a lot of voters in the cities out the doors which led to victories by progressive dems along with the passage of the amendent. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

The drive, once you get past I’5 to 20 is really pretty. IF it’s not on fire… choicelady an hour ago

glenn – Hopefully, the cowardly journalists will see all the praise Swan has gotten and look at the polls and feel freer to challenge Trump’s lies. AdLib an hour ago

CL…I have little hope that my neighbors here will see the light….so I go where the light has a chance of breaking through. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

All – I have a friend who is in dire crisis, and if she calls, I will have to drop out. But she hasn’t called, so I’ll probably not hear until tomorrow. Just a heads up. choicelady an hour ago

Murph – most sensible. choicelady an hour ago

Khirad…..Crimea a river….LMAO….really

MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

glenn – It’s pronounced “Die Nish”. And I pointed out what a fool he is since Trump himself corrected his mistake in the same breath. What a moron, defending a mistake his cult leader already proved was a mistake. AdLib an hour ago

I see Pink Frilly knickers Joe Arpaio has been booted to the kerb. At last. pinkpantheroz an hour ago

PPO – how are things there in terms of weather, fire, etc. you are coming out of winter to spring, so it SHOULD be ok? choicelady an hour ago

CL–Things in GA are pretty boring. I’m still in lockdown, although my granddaughter just started in person school on Monday. She wears a mask, but says not all students are wearing them. She tells us her teachers are telling the students that school will be closed in two weeks; a month at the most! She’s applied to graduate in December; she is applying to universities to start in January. She figures since her senior year is so messed up anyway, she may as well start college in Jan. glenn an hour ago

PPO……Arpaio lost? Did not pick up on that. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

glenn- I sure hope she will be OK. This is very scary. choicelady an hour ago

Murph – Arpaio got skunked. choicelady an hour ago

CL, support your friend – don’t worry aabout us. pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Ad–Yeah, two weeks away. Reminds me of a bar in Key West that had a sign painted on its’ side: “Free beer tomorrow”. glenn an hour ago

CL – I can’t get myself to agree to flying anywhere yet.They aren’t providing ANY stats on people catching COVID from flying, probably to protect the airline industry. But it can’t be good. AdLib an hour ago

glenn…smart young lady…..was it not in GA where a student got suspended for capturing an image of crowded hallways full of no mask kids. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

PPO – thanks. I will, but I think she’s buried in bed dealing with the fresh hell handed her today. choicelady an hour ago

Murph – the student’s suspension WAS finally lifted today. choicelady an hour ago

CL…Skunked…..good to hear. I will find an article and enjoy it. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

McSally is getting crushed, but… I don’t want to jinx it. Khirad an hour ago

Khirad – I’m with you. Shhhhh. Don’t SAY anythng! choicelady an hour ago

Murph – Repubs are so smart they outsmart themselves. Demskow that the point is too try and get a proposition on ballots to drive turnout, just like Medicaid expansion. They did it to themselves in the primary because turnout will be massive for Dems already in the primary. I mean TX is neck and neck? TX??? It will be like that all around the country including MO. AdLib an hour ago

Murph–so you’re saying Dinesh’s statement is a quid pro quid? glenn an hour ago

OK – who thinks Barr will have Obama and Biden arrested in October for “crimes against the administration” on Russian issues? choicelady an hour ago

cl, weather cool and wet. no fires down this end of the Contrinent, DG, but the COVID is a total pain pinkpantheroz an hour ago

glenn – wouldn’t that be SQUID pro quo? choicelady an hour ago

Ad…..I have a pilot friend and I trust him….he says that the efforts of the airlines are working…..I have a hard time understanding how. I had an associate fly to Florida and she wore a double mask, sat facing a window the whole time, wore gloves, spoke to no one, and was still so worried. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

CL – No worries, go if you eed to. Is this the same person you’ve mentioned previously? AdLib an hour ago

PPO – I’m sorry about the Covid crap. choicelady an hour ago

CL..yes the suspension was lifted but the school sent out a warning to all students that there would be serious action if students violated the privacy of other students by posting such a photo…so… MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Ik’m going to bow out but, you will know all about Flat Earth soon, even if you have to Thai me up. Khirad an hour ago

Glenn…quid pro quack! MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Ad – yes. It was a horrid day in court for her. The fact she’s not calling does not bode well. We are pursuing an immediate appeal, and we WILL win, but they say horrid things about her and say her kid doesn’t ever want to come back. She’s blasted. choicelady an hour ago

Murph–I will never understand these people who complain about tax money going to poor people, but actually celebrate people taking money from non-profits and churches! glenn an hour ago

glenn – Just make sure she checks out colleges that are beinng goood about protecting students. I saw Purdue is forcing students to come back for example, that ass Mitch Daniels is in charge and forcing them. AdLib an hour ago

glenn – I’m for taxing the cheater churches but not all of them. choicelady an hour ago

What happened to Khirad? He keeps dropping in and out. choicelady an hour ago

Ad…that all sounds good…..and yet trump has pulled within striking range of biden…..the stupid factor raises its ugly face again. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

PPO–There are a whole bunch of things that d’Douchebag is utterly unaware of! glenn an hour ago

Murph – I don’t read most polls as “in striking distance” but a couple of outlier ones. choicelady an hour ago

CL–Yeah, I worry about her; she assures me she is being as careful as can be. glenn an hour ago

CL – I don’t think Barr will arrest Biden or Obama since that would be illegal as we know they’ve committed no crimes and it would set him up to be arrested after Biden wins. And can you imagine how turnout would spike if he and Trump had their opponent arrested? Biden would win in a massive landslide. AdLib an hour ago

cl, Khirad is doing his Thoughts and Prayers for the poor NRA

pinkpantheroz an hour ago

CL….you are in court on something? Or am reading the posts wrongly. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph – The problem is, a pilot wouldn’t know. Only tracking of passengers after the flight would tell us. AdLib an hour ago

Ad–I really have no hope for journalists. If they haven’t learned by now, then I don’t think Swan’s great example is going to do much. glenn an hour ago

CL–do you really think lowbarr will actually sink that low? So, you think that is his “October surprise”? glenn an hour ago

CL – I’m very sorry to hear that she is still faciing such madness. They are sick to be doing this to her. AdLib an hour ago

Murph – no, a friend had her child taken by CPS on totally fraudulent assertions, and she’s in a court that has appalling biases and illegal actions. She lost today – but the appeal will be won. It’s just horrid for her right now. choicelady an hour ago

I actually saw a fist fight yesterday over the wearing of masks outside a wal mart……and the police let the guy who started it whaling on a store staffer who said he needed to wear a mask to ship…of the hook. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

CL–LOL! squid pro quo? Love it! glenn an hour ago

Hopefully Swan’s performance will wake some MSM journos from their hypnotic trances. pinkpantheroz an hour ago

CL…..so sorry for your friend….so often the courts are not the friends of the innocent. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Ad – they ARE sick. Their social worker admitted ON THE STAND to doing ILLEGAL things to her. I did the code searches for the attorney, and they have broken the law so many ways it’s revolting. choicelady an hour ago

glenn – I agree but they are such conformists, especially the White House Press Corps. Once Trump looks like he’s done for, they’ll suddenly find such courage. AdLib an hour ago

Murph – that’s the damned truth. choicelady an hour ago

Murph–yeah, she is pretty smart. And, yes, it was here in GA where the student got suspended for showing the crowded hallways. I read today that the suspension has been lifted, though. glenn an hour ago

CL…and the appointment of so many right wingers to the federal bench is the horror that this admin will visit on generations of those seeking fairness and justice. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Glenn…yes…the suspension was lifted but then the admin warned students that there would be serious penalties for any others who did the same….. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph – That’s terrible to hear. We’ve seen far too much now of police being the adversaries of the people and political partisans. The Defund the Police movement needs to gain speed when Biden is elected. Police forces across the country need to be disbanded and reformed with people who focus on keeping the peace, enforcing the law and protecting the public. These goon squads are awful. AdLib an hour ago

Murph – luckily for us, both the 3rd District appellate court and even the federal Ninth are still solidly pro LAW, so no matter what we’re in good hands. Her attorney – for whom my husband I are paying (gulp) is EXCELLENT. He will sue the hell out of them, she will get millions – this is the most outrageous case I’ve seen. EVER. choicelady an hour ago

Ad–I did see the other day where an airline, I think it was Delta, but not sure, turned a plane around because two passengers wouldn’t wear their masks correctly. They got kicked off the flight. But, you’re right, no statistics. glenn an hour ago

Ad, the WHPC is a national disgrace, with a couple of exceptions. But no one is still calling out the lies, all so as not to have their coveted ‘Access’ withdrawn. I do wish that one day no one turns up to any presser. pinkpantheroz an hour ago

CL – So they are breaking the law to accomplish their abuse of the child and mother. It’s insane! AdLib an hour ago

I just reallized that Arpaio has tried to regain his seat twice already….talk about not getting the hnt. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

PPO – I am very pleased that several cable outlets refuse to air the press “briefings” when they turn stupid. choicelady an hour ago

Ad – I have proof positive that they are indeed breaking the law. choicelady an hour ago

CL–Horrid seems to be a great word to describe what’s happening to your friend. I hope it gets sorted out soon. Are the kids at least in a good situation? glenn an hour ago

Murph – There is already a Dem strategy beiig designed to refoorm the judiciary and address all oof these unqualified Trump judges. They won’t be warping this country. AdLib an hour ago

It’s one boy, with Autism, and NO HE IS NOT. The fucking court gave him to his ABUSER in Texas who by TX law is NOT allowed to have him! choicelady an hour ago

CL….how extraordinary, and unsurprising, that you are backing another just cause. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph–WTF is wrong with these people who won’t wear masks? Rhetorical question, I know, but really, WTF? glenn an hour ago

Murph – LOL!!! Yes. Mother Courage rises again. Or Mother Jones – “pray for the dead. Fight like HELL for the living!” choicelady an hour ago

Ad, Even FOX dropped out of tonight’s rant! pinkpantheroz an hour ago

PPO – FOX?????? choicelady an hour ago

glenn – I saw that story about Delta and was glad to hear it. But there are no studies or info that I’m aware of, tracking passengers to see how contagious COVID is on planes. We should have science to inform us on this, even if good efforts are being made by airlines…I still don’t want to get infected. AdLib an hour ago

CL….I would not be at all surprised to learn that you are channeling Mother Courage. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

glenn – I am furious about the NON mask wearers. SCOTUS rules in fucking 1905 in Jacobson v MA that governments MAY demand that citizens comply with public health demands by the gov’t. Screw their “freeeeeeedoms”. choicelady an hour ago

PPO–as Ad says, it’s “accessibility” that the MSM is worried about. As if the RTLB is going to grant any more interviews, except on foxsocallednews by people like Geraldo Rivera, that hard-hitting journalist! glenn an hour ago

YES! They went to cover, of all things……… wait for it………KANYE! pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Murph – more likely Mother Jones. I visited her grave once. I never got over it. choicelady an hour ago

PPO – screw any media who cover Kanye without saying he’s mentally ill. choicelady an hour ago

I picked up on the story about Gov Mike Devine who tested positive for COVID on a quick test only to test negative on another one hours later. Beward. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

CL…Mother Jones it is….you get to choose your own blithe spirit. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

PPO – Agreed, the WHPC is a clique more than a journalistic force, they’re cozy in their positions and that seems to be what matters most. Few stand up to the lies, many passively obey instructions from the podium and such. Remember when they willingly sat next to each other after WH staff moved all their chairs close together to deceive viewers into thinking COVID was pretty much over? Who picked up their chair and spread out? No one. AdLib an hour ago

Ad–journalism from behind! glenn an hour ago

Murph – my ex is in OH, and DeWine isn’t the worst. But I sure don’t get that testing shit. choicelady an hour ago

Sorry all – I just realized I’m descending into vulgarities. I’m just that mad about my friend. I do apologize. choicelady an hour ago

CL Dewine is indeed not the worst….he has made the effort to appear un-bought and paid for. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Arpaio and Kobach lost. Saw a funny comment, Kris Kobach can now spend his time looking for a middle name that starts with “K”. AdLib an hour ago

Murph – my ex (we remain friends) isn’t horribly displeased w DeWine. choicelady an hour ago

CL…the vulgarity, the true vulgarity, is the injustice at the hands of those charged with safeguarding the innocent. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph–we have to keep reminding progressives of the importance of voting by reminding them constantly how the right wingers are taking over the courts. We need to get some actual jurists on the federal courts! glenn an hour ago

Ad –

choicelady an hour ago

Ad….I wish Koback had won……that would have given the Dem opponent a chance. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph – thank you. That’s true. But I’m enraged. choicelady an hour ago

PPO – Really? Fox dropped out of Trump’s BS speech? The recent division between Fox and Trump should speak volumes. They know he’s gone too far now and is going to lose. AdLib an hour ago

Ad, how about Kanye as a middle name, Kill 2 birds with one stone! pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Glenn…with you on that……in that case, as in many others, a demand for the perfect will be the enemy of the good. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph – part of the real problem is CA’s use of contract defense attorneys. They are easily bullied by the prosecution: you don’t do what we say, you’ll never get another case. The entire system sucks. choicelady an hour ago

Murph–it just blows my mind how people in my state are so willing to restrict everyone else’s rights, but scream bloody murder over wearing masks. I weep sometimes! glenn an hour ago

Okay, new theory. Kanye will actually pull more votes away from Trump, the few percentages of black Repubs. What do you think? Black people voting for Biden aren’t falling for Kanye’s exploitation by Trump, they’re not the idiots Trump assumes they are. AdLib an hour ago

Remember, TikTok is a “national emergency,” but COVID-19 will “just go away on its own.” Sarah Cooper is the best! pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Look at all the GOP is trying to do the spoil the election: sabotage in the USPO, attacks of absentee voting, Kanye, suits against small media outlets to keep them scared of passing on Trump attack pieces, and so much more. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

glenn – is it not appalling they use prochoice memes: “My body, my choice” sorts of things??? choicelady an hour ago

CL..interesting observation re. contract defense attorneys….yes, makes a sad sense. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Ad–That’s why it’s so important for the RTLB to be voted out, and even more important for the turtle to be gone! Not sure if he’s worse than the RTLB, but he needs to go! glenn an hour ago

CL – Your language is welcome whatever you choose to say. It is all coming from a place of outrage at injustice. AdLib an hour ago

Glenn….the open season on maskwearing is a sign of how misplace our priorities are. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph – Yes, that is the downside, Kobach would have been easier for a Dem to defeat but since he was defeated, we can at least celebrate that. AdLib an hour ago

CL–OMG! That’s just awful! My heart goes out to your friend! glenn an hour ago

PPO – KKKobach will be delighted! AdLib an hour ago

We did a project to get congregations to help people expunge their felonies served in jail (you can’t do it for prison). To do this I had to research defense attorneys – public defenders – for all 58 counties. Surprise! about 1/3 have contract people whose contracts do NOT include that work or who will be smacked down for doing it. One count has NO PUBLIC DEFENDER AT ALL. WTF is THAT? choicelady an hour ago

glenn – thank you. It is hideous. choicelady an hour ago

CL…and that is in progressive CA! MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph – CA isn’t progressive at the county level. On any issue at all it’s a crap shoot. choicelady an hour ago

CL–If I ever get in trouble, I want you on my side! You are such a fighter for justice! glenn an hour ago

PPO – o doubt in my mind that Trump’s attack on TikTok is only whipping up that TikTok army against him in the near future. All Trump has is cultists and enemies! In every direction! AdLib an hour ago

I had to chuckle, actually guffaw, at the persecution of Falwell Jr. …… the Christian Right so Wrong once again. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

glenn – well, my dear friend – let’s see if I win this one! You MIGHT want better friends than I! choicelady an hour ago

PPO–LOL! KrisKanyeKobach! glenn an hour ago

Murph – that Falwell photo was a Dr. Phil moment: What WERE you Thinking?????? choicelady an hour ago

CL….indeed….CA is complex but I still find it so surprising until I remembers its rootedness in the politics of the right. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

CL–Hey, a little vulgarity can be excused when you’re incensed! glenn an hour ago

Murph – even our flag represented affinity w the Confederacy for a long time. choicelady an hour ago

Ad–I like your theory. Hope it stands up in practice. glenn an hour ago

Murph – But all that Trump and Repubs are doiing to stop the inevitable will only lead to reforms that prevent them from doing so in the future and possibly exiling them from power for some time. Once a new VRA is put in place, to stop these abuses, they will look like the criminals they are and have no way to attack the vote again. AdLib an hour ago

I fought like hell for good legislation at the Capitol only to see it bastardized and corrupted at the county levels. It’s sickening. choicelady an hour ago

Falwell: God’s Staff of righteousness! pinkpantheroz an hour ago

CL…..Liberty University…..it’s all about repression…..and he was their leader…..such cognitive dissonance. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago


choicelady an hour ago

Ad….I pray every day that you are prophetic. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph – Oh yes, add Falwell to Arpaio and KKKobach to being big losers this week! AdLib an hour ago

Murph – if you’ve read Jeff Sharlet’s weighty tome, “The Family” you learn that the “key men” (it’s always men) are above the law. choicelady an hour ago

Murph–your quote, plus sometimes I think some Dem voters like to think they’re so superior that they can’t deign themselves to vote for the imperfect! glenn an hour ago

I have not read it….perused it but never dived in..on your recc. I may have to find time. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

glenn – that’s an astute observation about too many faux Dems. choicelady an hour ago

Glenn when idealism is the enemy of anything short of the absolutely ideal….we all lose. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph – it’s a hard slog, but it’s well worth it. Also Nancy MacLean’s “Democracy in Chains”. Both will make you ill. Both are essential reading. choicelady an hour ago

Murph–It’s not so much misplaced priorities as it is stupidity! Or owning the libs! The cultists just don’t see/hear/believe anything that the libs think is good. glenn an hour ago

glenn, sometimes we must realize that ‘near enough IS good enough” pinkpantheroz an hour ago

glenn and Murph – Just consider that the reason Biden is the nominee is that black voters wanted the safest, most secure choice in their minds to beat Trump. They want as badly as any of us, to beat Trump. They are not going to suddenly think, “ah, I just want to have the fun of voting for Kanye and keep Trump after all.” It won’t work. Not now, when it is out in the public that it is Trump and Repubs explotig Kanye’s mental issues to win. Exploiting black people isn’t how you get their vote. AdLib an hour ago

CL…you make me think! MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

glenn – we’ve always had a ‘paranoid’ style in politics. The sheer cultish insanity seems more extensive than ever now. choicelady an hour ago

PPO….near enough IS good enough… MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Ad–the RTLB is only pissed at TikTok because that’s where Sara Cooper’s videos are! That and the fact that young people on TikTok totally messed up his bragging about his Tulsa rally! glenn an hour ago

Ad…..my black associates certainly reflect your understanding of the matter. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Kanye West Booted Off Illinois Ballot Due to 1,900 Invalid Signatures….TMZ reporting pinkpantheroz an hour ago

CL–Absolutely not! Can’t think of a better person to have on my side, whether you win or lose! glenn an hour ago

And Dems should do a info campaign about people returning their ballots in drop boxes, county clerk offices (which may have drop boxes and at polling places (without needing to wait in line) on Election Day if the USPS continues to be sandbagged. AdLib an hour ago

PPO….West is SO troubled……Il did him a favor. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

PPO!!! I had not heard about Kanye getting kicked off IL ballot!!!! choicelady an hour ago

Murph–Falwell jr literally got caught with his pants down! LOL! glenn an hour ago

glenn – Sara Cooper and TikTokers who helped sabotage his OK event. AdLib an hour ago

glenn – the concern he expressed was they might think he was drinking (he was but hey) NOT that he was canoodling with his wife’s assistant! The man is a slime merchant. choicelady 44 minutes ago

Murph – Glad to hear that. I’ve seen comments by black Americans saying, “How stupid does anyone think we are? We’re ot voting for Kanye.” It seems very condescending to eve think people, just because they’re black, would vote for Kanye after seeing how troubled he is and that he is a Trumper serving Trump. AdLib 43 minutes ago

Well….I am running out of steam…..I must say I was very encouraged about the activism I witnessed in pursuit of Medicaid passage….it was wide spread- across ages, races, and geographical roots….and seen as another one of the battles to secure the nation for liberal democratic principles…. MurphTheSurf3 42 minutes ago

Ad–once again, I hope your theory about the VRA stands up in practice. I also think we have to make sure that the new AG has to bring charges against the RTLB and his cronies based on the Mueller report and other crimes. glenn 42 minutes ago

PPO – I’ve seen some of the petition signatures from NJ, IL and WI, one signatire was from Mickey Mouse and the handwriting is the same on multiple “people”. This is election fraud in process. AdLib 42 minutes ago

Ad – both Left and Right think Black people are stupid. That may be our saving grace. They ARE NOT, and every effort to cater to that ideology that Black people are ignorant backfires. choicelady 42 minutes ago

Ad…..I understand the concerns re. the black voter after 2016…..but I think the lesson is well learned. MurphTheSurf3 41 minutes ago

Murph–good night. It’s nice to hear there is some encouraging news out there. Take care of yourself, my friend. glenn 41 minutes ago

And there has been a complaint filed in WI against the Trump lawyer who walked in petitions of signatures for Kanye to appear on the ballot. A lawyer representing “competing” candidates is unethical. Hpe she gets her license pulled. AdLib 41 minutes ago

PPO–Well said! Near enough is good enough! For now, and we keep moving forward! glenn 41 minutes ago

Good night, glenn – I wish we lived closer so we could talk longer. Have a good weekend. Be well! choicelady 41 minutes ago

So long folks…such fun and SO enlightening. MurphTheSurf3 40 minutes ago

CL–I’m not leaving quite yet. I was saying good night to Murph; I thought he was leaving! glenn 40 minutes ago

Good night Murph – thank you for all the things you are, all the things you do. choicelady 40 minutes ago

glenn – GOOD. Good night to Murph! Take care of yourself, Murph! choicelady 39 minutes ago

Time for me to go as well, folks. Fergie and I will be tele-attending a Church Service in Dublin for my best friend’s late mother later today. pinkpantheroz 39 minutes ago

CL….I stand in the shadow of folks like you, my friend. I know the truth of it and am proud to have come to appreciate you. MurphTheSurf3 39 minutes ago

glenn – Yes, I think prosecutions are critical to stopping this voter suppression and election tampering, need to put the fear of imprisonment in their heads. Same with Trump and his crime family, lots of covictions will help to prevent such a crime spree in the future. AdLib 39 minutes ago

PPO – I’m so sorry you have to do that. Be well, PPO and we’ll talk soon. choicelady 39 minutes ago

Night Murph! Have a nice weekend! AdLib 39 minutes ago

Murph – I adore you for what YOU had done! choicelady 38 minutes ago

Ad–didn’t get to read the article; but now there seems to be some backlash against drop boxes. Those have to be watched carefully! glenn 38 minutes ago

Murph – I’m blown away with the wisdom and humor I see here every week. It keeps mr sane! Cheerio foor now. pinkpantheroz 38 minutes ago

PPO….tele attending….the new age dawning. MurphTheSurf3 38 minutes ago

We love YOU, PPO! choicelady 38 minutes ago

Blush pinkpantheroz 38 minutes ago

‘Nite PPO. Take care of yourself and Fergie. See you next week! glenn 38 minutes ago

I must say, one and all, Vox is a class act. Night! MurphTheSurf3 37 minutes ago

CL – Exactly, I’m surprised that allegedly enlightened liberals think so little of black people that they think they are so mindless as to vote for Kanye. Aiin’t happening. And I have no doubt that they will have a black woman VP to vote for on the Biden ticket who is sharp and successful. Who needs Kanye? AdLib 37 minutes ago

Honestly, we all have to meet some day. I don’t want you at my virtual funeral having no clue what the hell I look like! choicelady 37 minutes ago

Back at ya, Murph! AdLib 37 minutes ago

Ad – the racism. It is to the BONE in too many people. choicelady 36 minutes ago

CL…wouldn’t that be nice….remember the MASH episode when the characters all had their relatives meet in the states and Radar’s family hit it off with CHarles elite family. MurphTheSurf3 36 minutes ago

glenn – Don’t know what complaints there are against drop boxes but they have been used like VBM without an issue so wouldn’t worry about them. AdLib 36 minutes ago

I’m going to go soon, myself. But I do have to add one thing about my smart granddaughter. She took her ACT again so that she had scores closer to her graduation, improved her score, which means she still scored in the top 10% of students in the country. glenn 35 minutes ago

Murph – I’d totally forgotten that, but yes – how grand that was! choicelady 35 minutes ago

glenn – HOOORAY!!!! Your granddaughter ROCKS! choicelady 35 minutes ago

CL – I think that’s a great idea! We should all meet once this COVID crisis is under control! AdLib 35 minutes ago

Ad – I think that would be so cool. choicelady 35 minutes ago

Ad…it is worth dreaming about…… MurphTheSurf3 34 minutes ago

Murph – I remember that MASH episode. AdLib 34 minutes ago

OK – my phone is ringing. Gotta go – hugs to all! choicelady 34 minutes ago

By CL! AdLib 34 minutes ago

Ad–I tend to agree with you regarding black voters. I’m sure there will be some who will vote for Kanye, but I don’t think it will make much difference. glenn 34 minutes ago

Glenn…your grand daughter sounds like grand mother. MurphTheSurf3 34 minutes ago

Bye CL! glenn 34 minutes ago

Well….it does appear the bar is closing….so with a toast to Ad and Glenn…ta ta! MurphTheSurf3 33 minutes ago

Thanks Murph! glenn 33 minutes ago

glenn – I doubt many black Dems will be among them. More liikely black Repubs, they share some of his positions and they’re used to voting for someone with mental issues. AdLib 33 minutes ago

Thanks Murph! AdLib 33 minutes ago

Geez, Ad, that’s two weeks in a row you and I have closed the place down. Was it something we said? glenn 33 minutes ago

I think we just hold our liquor better. AdLib 32 minutes ago

My daughter is starting her Senior year in HS like your granddaughter. Fortunately, we have the option to keep her home and we are. AdLib 31 minutes ago

Regarding the drop boxes, I’m going to have to go back and read the article. I just did a quick search to see if I could find it, and I couldn’t. I think it was on DailyKos. glenn 30 minutes ago

I know GA isn’t allowing for that. I’m very concerned that a big outbreak is coming after kids are forced back into schools. AdLib 30 minutes ago

glenn – Please pass the link aloong to me, I have no info on a downside for drop boxes, I can’t imagine what that could be. AdLib 29 minutes ago

It seems the most reliable option next to handing it in at the county clerk’s office…which oofte uses drop boxes. AdLib 28 minutes ago

often AdLib 28 minutes ago

I thought your daughter is the same age as my granddaughter. My granddaughter absolutely hated the on-line classes last school year, so she made the choice to go inperson. My daughter made her swear up and down she would wear her mask at all times. It’s very worrying, but I try not to interfere in my daughter’s parenting. That is not a criticism; just that I don’t want to be overbearing,, which I can be sometimes glenn 26 minutes ago

Have you never read DailyKos? It’s another great website like the Planet. They do a lot of in depth reporting on voting trends. As far as I know, it’s DailyKos.com glenn 25 minutes ago

sorry, just looked it up. It’s dailykos.com glenn 23 minutes ago

I don’t criticize other parents but I do have my beliefs. It is unsafe right now, all the reliable experts including Fauci and surprisingly Biirx say it too, if you live where there is currently a sizeable outbreak, kids shouldn’t attend school. This mistake happened in Israel, now it’s happening around the US already. And since we know that masks mainly protect others from our breath droplets, wearing a mask is little protection when you’re around a lot of people not wearing masks. So my daughter will stay home, even though she doesn’t want to, until 3 weeks after students are on campus and we learn if there are infections spreading. AdLib 22 minutes ago

Yes, I like Daily Kos and I have an old account there from a while back, don’t post there but there are good folks over there and some very good articles. AdLib 22 minutes ago

I agree. I think we all have to do what we think is right. I gave my daughter the same arguments, she and her husband decided. I just worry. glenn 20 minutes ago

I consider attending schol a real toss of the dice and it’s not worth it to me. In any case, my daughter’s school is only doing a hybrid plan, where those who want to attend only 2 days a week. I don’t feel that is even missing much if they don’t attend. AdLib 20 minutes ago

On that note, I’m going to close for the night. Always great talking to you and others here on the Planet. As everyone says, it saves my sanity! glenn 19 minutes ago

glenn – We think alike on this. But my daughter has friends that are going to attend, their parents have decided it’s okay and unfortunately, I’m going to have to quarrantine her away from them for at least 3 weeks until we see what’s going on. AdLib 18 minutes ago

That’s an interesting plan. So, yeah, not attending in person makes sense. Unfortunately, that is not an option here in Cherokee County. Every county in GA has a different plan. glenn 18 minutes ago

Same here, glenn! Really enjoy chatting with you too! Maybe as CL suggested, we plan a Planet get together after COVID iis a memory. Would be wonderful to meet you inn person! AdLib 17 minutes ago

Good for you! I think I mentioned earlier that Hailey’s teachers keep telling the students that they don’t expect school to be open for long anyway. Now, that’s encouraging! /s/ glenn 16 minutes ago

I will be sending good thoughts about your granddaughter that she stays safe and healthy. Would there be an option to have her back at home iif there is an outbreak at school? AdLib 16 minutes ago

Yes, I saw that but that’s because the teachers anticiipate COVID spreading in the school soon, right? AdLib 15 minutes ago

Yes, she can stay home and do her classes. Thanks for the good thoughts! And, yes it’s because the teachers think c-19 will spread! Lovely, right? glenn 14 minutes ago

Okay, I’m really going now. You take care, too. See you next week! glenn 14 minutes ago

Sounds good! Have a nce weekend! AdLib 14 minutes ago

OOps, just saw your post about meeting in person! Yes, I think that would be so cool! Maybe next summer when we’ve had about six months of sanity with Biden! glenn 13 minutes ago

Yes, that souds ideal! AdLib 13 minutes ago

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