Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events, begins tonight at 7:00pm PDT. Hope to see you then! AdLib 5 hours ago

took me 10 miutes to log in…. glad it’s not raining. lol Harleigh 3 hours ago

guess I’ll just lay down on the couch and rest my eyes. Harleigh 3 hours ago

Hey Harleigh, don’t fall asleep now! AdLib 3 hours ago

lol bu…. wha…. huh lol Harleigh 3 hours ago

hey mon Harleigh 3 hours ago

Happy Hamilton Day. AdLib 3 hours ago

Meanwhille, Trump is at Mt. Rushmore proving he has more rocks in his head than the monument does. AdLib 3 hours ago

hahaha lad i’m not at Spankys fireworks bullshit. Is there still some fucking parade in DC Harleigh 3 hours ago

Yes, tomorrow night, Trump is haviig another big fireworks show…while the DC mayor is telling people to stay away from outdoor gatherings. AdLib 3 hours ago

I remember him threatening a big destructive think but have not seen any updates. Harleigh 3 hours ago

Trump sees his only path as killing all Americans so they aren’t able to vote him out. AdLib 3 hours ago

good news is the attendees are expendable deplorables Harleigh 3 hours ago

He wants havoc, people dying of Covid-19, white nationalists shooting up black people, poverty making people homeless and desperate…all he has as a hope is Armegeddon. AdLib 3 hours ago

I love that the asshole known as Herbie Cain denounced masks, praised panky and then got hospitalized with the covid hoax Harleigh 3 hours ago

The thig is, all these mask-rejecters will have hiigher infection and death rates. Trump’s killing his own voters to get his addiction for adulation filled. How enthusiastic will Trump voters be when they’ve lost family to Trump’s Virus? AdLib 3 hours ago

this fall the 40 MILLION unemployed get evicted when benefits are curtailed. this is going to go south Harleigh 3 hours ago

I don’t wish death on anyone but the more prominent Trump supporters pass away from COVID-19 will not elicit condolences from me. AdLib 3 hours ago

Meawhiile, Wall Street and the wealthy continue to get trillions handed to them by The Fed and Trump. AdLib 3 hours ago

Hey PPO! AdLib 3 hours ago

well down here im god’s waiting room the retarded old repubes in retirement homes or assisted living are starting to really get the message. They are mostly turning away. the the tealibangecals will syay with Spanky. Harleigh 3 hours ago

Hi, Ad. Problem logging in. Home page wouldn’t allow me. pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

me too… Harleigh 3 hours ago

hi Harleigh. Has WhatsHisName blown up Mt. Rushmore yet? how long was it before he suggested his face be up there? pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Yep, I saw the Battle of the Golf Carts in The Villages. Damn, those old folks down there can sure Tokyo Drift their carts! AdLib 3 hours ago

I thought maybe I got fucking banned Harleigh 3 hours ago

Ad, had to use WordPress login pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

the scooters are free from medicaid/medicare Harleigh 3 hours ago

I updated the site, it is hopefully an issue with the cache in your browsers. Now that you have logged on, hopefully, it won’t happen again. If it does, please let me know by email ASAP. AdLib 3 hours ago

OK pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

BRB, let me try the login to check… AdLib 3 hours ago

k Harleigh 3 hours ago

BTW is anyone keeping an eye on Ghislaine? pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

dead meat. she was the operative and her boss was arrested and murdered at the same place they snuffed pstein. Harleigh 3 hours ago

Was it the login link in the upper right of the page that wasn’t letting you login? AdLib 3 hours ago

yes and then wanted id/pswd…. Harleigh 3 hours ago

yes, the little red sign in bit. Got to the Blue Logon screen, entered, then back to the home page but no PPO in the top corner pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

And when you enntered ID/PW, it didn’t log you in? WHat happened? AdLib 3 hours ago

just the little red sign in logo again pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Hey glenn! Did you have any issue logging in just now? AdLib 3 hours ago

hi glenn pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Thanks, that helps me investigate what the login issue is. AdLib 3 hours ago

went back to login didnt recognize valid id or pswd…. put in in again and vula…. was in Harleigh 3 hours ago

So it wouldn’t login the first time? AdLib 3 hours ago

I tried 3 times, nada. had to go to the blue logon blot at the side pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Good evening, everyone. Ad, I had the same problem logging in. And, yes, it was the login link in the upper right of the page that was the problem. After filling in my user name and password, and pressing “login”, it would send me right back to the home page, where it says, “Sign in” I had to use the word press log in, too, like PPO. glenn 3 hours ago

Thanks all for the info, I’ll have to troubleshoot after Vox. It never pays to update! AdLib 3 hours ago

that you, Khalid guest? pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

well that outta keep those russiantrolls away for awhile. Harleigh 3 hours ago

Ad–It wouldn’t let me log in at all. I tried three times. Even closed the site, came back again, and tried three more times. glenn 3 hours ago

Covid-POV! pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Damn, Ad, that updating! glenn 3 hours ago

lol Harleigh 3 hours ago

If it aint broke…. pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

So….how is everyone tonight? glenn 3 hours ago

PPO–How’s Fergie? glenn 3 hours ago

well the 3 of us were persistant enough to get in…. Harleigh 3 hours ago

how are we all? Here in Victoria, we’re basically back to square 1 for 38 suburbs in Melbourne. Spike had caused major upset pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

And, still she persisted! glenn 3 hours ago

lol Harleigh 3 hours ago

Scheißen. Logging in took forever! Khirad 3 hours ago

PPO–Oh dear, sounds like you’re having the same problems as the US. glenn 3 hours ago

glenn, pretty OK. Not venturing out at all. I’m doing all the shopping once a week and cleaning as I go. pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Yes, Kh, we all had it today. pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Khirad–glad you made it! glenn 3 hours ago

Alles gute. Khirad 3 hours ago

I just turned off a function, hope that may help for now. AdLib 3 hours ago

Hi Khirad! AdLib 3 hours ago

Have the Siooux gone on warpath against Big Orange Thie..er Chief? pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

PPO–Right before I came here; checked my news feed. Seems that some Native Americans supposedly blocked the road the RTLB was using. Don’t know any more details. glenn 3 hours ago

I have not heard anything about the Sioux. Khirad 3 hours ago

here in floiduh naziland they pulled all stops… 10,000 a day. mia/ftl closed bars and beaches for the weekend. rest of the state is open Harleigh 3 hours ago

Oh, Mount Rushmore, of course. Khirad 3 hours ago

Trump supporters are shouting at the Sioux – ‘Go Home”!!!!! pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Sorry, just making a few adjustments that I hope will help for now. I’m back. AdLib 3 hours ago

hahahaha go back where you came from!!!! Harleigh 3 hours ago

truly, H! and the fools don’t get it! pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/505829-protesters-block-highway-as-trump-makes-his-way-to-mount-rushmore? glenn 3 hours ago

PPO–And police are using tear gas and smoke bombs. Protesting just ain’t what it used to be! glenn 3 hours ago

I’ve seen videos before, especially around here in the Southwest where Natives intermixed with the Spanish and heard white people telling them to go back to their country. Khirad 3 hours ago

and they are mostly on medicaid scooters and oxygen Harleigh 3 hours ago

glenn – The National Guard cleared away the rightful owners of the land to allow the racist invader and his cult onto that land. AdLib 3 hours ago

Murph! pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Khirad–Yeah, those white people just ain’t too bright! glenn 3 hours ago

Hey Murph! Did you have an issue logging in? AdLib 2 hours ago

What an insult to trespass without permission. pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Logging in was EZ…. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Glenn I’ll look for some later, but the native gets the last word. I guess we call them Karens now. Khirad 2 hours ago

Ad–Yup! I just don’t get it! glenn 2 hours ago

Murph–Logging was EZ for you because you’re Murph! glenn 2 hours ago

Good Murph! I just adjusted a couple of things, earlier, the updates to the site made it hard for everyone else to login so glad that I may have found the culprit. AdLib 2 hours ago

PPO–The RTLB is an insult to sane people. glenn 2 hours ago

So does anyone think Trump’s attempt to start a new Civil War has any chance at all in succeeding or getting him re-elected? AdLib 2 hours ago

So, shouldn’t it be time for another impeachment? I mean, really, to ignore Putin’s bounty on US soldiers! glenn 2 hours ago

Wouldn’t it be a fucking hoot if the fireworks fired an big boomer up washingtons nose and broke it off Harleigh 2 hours ago

Ad, no. I think enough sanity has crept back into US society to prevent that. But I would love to see those fat militias confronted by real soldiers pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Are impeachments cheaper if you apply them in bulk? Trump, Pence and Barr should all be impeached so Pelosi can protect the nation and voting until Biden gets in. AdLib 2 hours ago

Harleigh, Jefferson better? pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

If anyone doesn’t know, the Senate candidate in Arizona is Mark Kelly, Gabby Giffords Navy astronaut husband and I’m always reticent with Arizona, but we could have two Democratic senators here! I know, right? It’s crazy. Good crazy, but crazy. The land of Goldwater and McCain! https://markkelly.com Khirad 2 hours ago

Harleigh – Only if it fell on Trump and lodged him in Washington’s nostril for the next 4 months. AdLib 2 hours ago

Hello All….. are well…I could not get on last week at all….so I got lucky this week…I did as Ad suggested and cleared all of my caches and restarted my operations….beauty. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Khirad, Wow, that wuld be great, and its looking achievable pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Ad–I think we are in the middle of a unCivil War already. I don’t think it will help his chances of re-election. Although, I will never count the RTLB or his supporters out. There’s no telling how far the turtle and lindsey will go to prop up the RTLB. They’ve already stacked the courts. glenn 2 hours ago

PP, he’s ahead of McSally by around 8 points. Khirad 2 hours ago

PPO – I think you’re right, Trump’s act seems so weak and impotent (like him) nowadays. His poll numbers keep sinking no matter what he does because all he knows is lying, conning and hating. AdLib 2 hours ago

Great, Kh. pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Harleigh–I really think that’s the RTLB’s motivation. To destroy part of the monument so he can put his ugly mug up there. glenn 2 hours ago

Khirad – Especially after Ducey has the deaths of thousands of Arizonians on his hands now for trying to please Trump with a rapid opening, I think AZ is ready to fully flip to blue. Being murdered by the GOP isn’t the best advertising. AdLib 2 hours ago

I’ll get back here and comment more about reviving the Civil War, but I was talking to my dad, born in Savannah, GA about it. Even he’s like: burn it all. Khirad 2 hours ago

Khirad–Arizona is looking promising! glenn 2 hours ago

question: are any of you carrying weapons when you go out? I can’t believe whats happening. One day, a POC will react with their own and all hell will break loose. pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Ad–LOL! glenn 2 hours ago

I shared with Ad an experience last week at a local American Legion Post where a motion was made over lunch that the post condemn the President for the Putin/Bounty on our Soldiers matter. Outrage and uproar on both sides but the motion was accepted and then tabled until the next meeting which was scheduled for a month from now BUT a motion from the floor got the meeting moved to next week. Unbelievable….I think this might pass. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Murph–So glad you’re here. How’s the arm? glenn 2 hours ago

mcgrath is challenging mcturtle but KY is dirt poor and really dumb. Harleigh 2 hours ago

Murph, that’s huge! pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Murph – I think that same thing could have been what caused an issue for other folks here. I added a new caching app which may have conflicted with the cache for this site on people’s browsers. It’s off now so shouldn’t cause an issue. AdLib 2 hours ago

Glenn….arm is about 80 percent restored. I still have some motion that is extremely hard but I am doing my exercises three times a day, going to PT twice a week and cardiac rehab twice a week. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

AD – douchey? I don’t want to hijack this about Arizona, but while we’ve flipped VA and North Carolina, I do believe Arizona is significant. We’ve been waiting for Texas to flip forever so I take a little joy that Arizona could be first. Just keep saying racist shit Trump! Khirad 2 hours ago

glenn – But it’s not a real Civil War, it’s thousands of protesters and a handful of white nationalists. If a war started, they would be crushed. AdLib 2 hours ago

PPO–Don’t own any weapons, so can’t carry them. I’d probably shoot myself in the foot, or some other place. I agree, if a POC fights back, all hell will break loose. And the POC will be the one arrested, of course! glenn 2 hours ago

glenn, if they aren’t shot on the spot, of course. pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

PPO…yes, the American Legion is very, very, very, conservative….but there were enough people there who were deeply disturbed by the story to break them out of their usual channels. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

About a week ago we started to have to wear masks in public. I had been, but since it’s Arizona, they waited as long as they could before even the ice cream douche had to give way to masks. Khirad 2 hours ago

Khirad – That’s fascinating! That even folks who have been around the confederacy crap their whole lives recognize that itdoesn’t need to be there anymore. AdLib 2 hours ago

Milestone this week. My new SUV, bought mid-March, just clocked 60 Miles/100 Km!!! pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

quite a road trip!!!! Harleigh 2 hours ago

That is since March! pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Murph–I truly hope Putin’s bounty is finally the RTLB’s “waterloo”. And our retired military men and women should be speaking out every day. This should NOT be allowed to be swept under the rug of the next RTLB outrage. glenn 2 hours ago

PPO–Yes, of coure. glenn 2 hours ago

glenn, the final straw, hopefully. Even the most feral of MAGAts must see his lack of sanctioning Russia is dead wrong pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Khirad….as one who has lived in formerly confederate states three times in my life I am surprised how quickly the majority seems to be letting go….it is as if they were waiting for the ok to say enough really is enough. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

AD it was a long time ago, but my travelogue here – I’ll never forget going to Richmond and seeing Jefferson Davis’ grave, the museum of the Confederacy. It wasn’t even my dad that wanted to go there, but me, as a dorta dark tourist kinda thing. My dad was brought up as a Segregationist, but brought me up not as a Dixiecrat but as very liberal. He was the first to go to college. Funny how reading books changes things? Khirad 2 hours ago

Murph–The American Legion needs to speak out nationwide. This is actual out and out treason! Even if the RTLB wasn’t briefed (yeah, right), he has known about it for about a week now, so what is he doing about it? glenn 2 hours ago

PPO – Nope, I’m not a gun persn but I have no issue with folks having or carrying guns legally. However, when I see those videos of Karens and Kens getting obnoxious and spitting and violent, I do imagine stepping up to shut them down. AdLib 2 hours ago

Murph, maybe the latest generations rejection of the old Confederate ways has opened many eyes. FLags and Statues of slavers no longer have places in the USA pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Glenn……one of the men at the Amercan Legion post, a veteran sgt of 20 years made a simple point….whether it is true or not the Presidient owes it to us to be sure that we are factually convinced and the fact that he ducking, dodging and weaving points clearly to his guilt. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Murph–glad to hear you’re healing. glenn 2 hours ago

Kim Guilfoyle, girlfriend of Don Jr, and planner of the Mt. Rushmore event has tested positive for COVID MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Regarding Russia, Putin just made it official that he’s President for Life. I know it’s anticlimactic, but it got over “70%” of the vote – and we’re busy with our own shit, so… Khirad 2 hours ago

Yes, the combo of disasters that Trump has failed to protect Americans from and the racism should make for a perfect storm for AZ and maybe even TX to flip against Trump and Repubs. I mean, who in their right mind (excludes Trump cultists) would want 4 more years of this hell? AdLib 2 hours ago

PPO–Sometimes I wonder at what the MAGAts actually “see”. I just don’t understand why even 1% of people support the RTLB. So, somehow, I bet, the MAGAts will find an excuse for him. glenn 2 hours ago

K…..Putin is the very model of a perfect president in the small mind of our own MAGAT MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

floriduh with all this death an disease may flip/ Harleigh 2 hours ago

PPO – That’s a lot more miles than I’ve driven since March! AdLib 2 hours ago

Ad, pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Spanky knew about the bountys march 2019 Harleigh 2 hours ago

Ad–That’s why it’s the unCivil War. There is no civility. glenn 2 hours ago

Here in Missouri in two poles Biden is up by one….he will not win once the GOP machine gets to work but Trump will have a narrow victory here and the GOP here are swinging away from his trumpista party rather dramatically MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

HArleih, GWRs in FLa must be awash in soiled Pampers at the panic that must be spreading. So many homes, so many vulnerable people pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Murph–hopefully, people have finally had enough! glenn 2 hours ago

Murph, I at least respect Putin. I mean, in the same way I respect Stalin and Hitler. He at least is wily and knows exactly what he’s doing. He’s not hard to read by anyone but Trump. I’m not saying Putin is like Hitler, but he’s better. He’s better at how he’s playing Trump like a балала́йка. Khirad 2 hours ago

it’s going to be real bad here Harleigh 2 hours ago

Very cool to hear about your dad. And yes, education is the enemy of racism and authoritarianism. Only after people learn critical thinking, can they become resistent to propaganda. If you learn to question and conclude things in your own mind, you can’t be used as these Trump cultists are. He’s convinced them to risk their lives and some will die, for Trump’s greater glory. How sick is that, especially in America? AdLib 2 hours ago

The GOP government here has done a remarkably good job with the Pandemic. In no small part this has been evident in its ignoring of the national governments messaging. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

no leadership at all Harleigh 2 hours ago

AD I’ve thinking about writing about my dad and my experience with racism and coming a heritage that was hate. A few generations back, we owned slaves. Khirad 2 hours ago

Khirad – I think Putin was rubbing Trump’s nose in it, “I can rig elections and be president for life. How about you, Donny?” AdLib 2 hours ago

Murph–The RTLB owes the American public a lot of things, not the least of which is the truth. Your sgt is just seeing right through the RTLB. glenn 2 hours ago

Missouri is surrounded by COVID hotspots (six states)….it has been hard to keep an even pace….a key was putting the medical leadership in charge of policy development. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Murph–Awwww, poor Kimmy! glenn 2 hours ago

AD, Putin has bigger plans than Trump. Trump is Putin’s side piece. He has a bigger picture. Khirad 2 hours ago

Glenn…to paraphrase a film….Trump…He can’t handle the ruth. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Harleigh–not sure FL will actually flip, but if the RTLB does win FL, it’s going to be a very slim margin, I think. glenn 2 hours ago

glenn – Personality cults are like this. Followers are slavishly committed to the cult leader, anything that is said or that happens is only seen through the lens of supporting or attacking their Dear Leader. Like a religious cult, same thing. They don’t think, they are vested in him being like a God and no amount of facts or reason can change their minds. AdLib 2 hours ago

so many of the old GOP guard seem SO outraged now at what has happened to the party I wonder if his losing will be enough for them….they want blood. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Khirad–I agree with Ad. Putin is just rubbing the RTLB’s face in his (Putin’s) “victory”. glenn 2 hours ago

Has anyone heard of the BITE model for cults. Cult gets thrown around a lot, but it’s a sociological model and I say – without hyperbole – that it IS a cult. Khirad 2 hours ago

All else being equal (snort!) how would today’s polls show as Electoral college votes? pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

ad…when your identity is so wrapped in the persona of deified leader separation from him/her feels like a slow death…. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Harleigh – Depending on the election interference by De Santis and Repubs, I thiink the real vote will give FL to Biden. Will they cheat the vte away from him? Possible, I think they did to defeat Gillum annd hand it to De Santis. AdLib 2 hours ago

K what does BITE stand for? MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Murph–isn’t it amazing that if you ignore the RTLB how well things can work? glenn 2 hours ago

Glenn….true but it is so hard to ignore/not deal with the literal elephant in the room. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

evangelical nazis is what they are!!!!agree ad Harleigh 2 hours ago

Khirad – That would be a very timely article! AdLib 2 hours ago

Murph–WOW! A republican governor actually put medical experts in charge of a medical problem. What a novel idea! glenn 2 hours ago

Glenn & AD, yes Putin is rubbing Trumps nose, but I’m trying to say that’s navel gazing and myopic as well. He’s despatched of America, Putin is still revanchist and trying to rebuild the Russian Empire. Khirad 2 hours ago

Ad–I agree. We are going to need a national cult de-programming after the RTLB is gone! glenn 2 hours ago

Khirad – Perhaps but Putin knows that with a more stable US and president, he will run into a lot more confrontation trying to execute his bigger plans. If the West is united again and forceful against him, he’s in trouble. AdLib 2 hours ago

BITE model https://freedomofmind.com/bite-model/ Khirad 2 hours ago

Glenn…the governor did not see the office….farmer/rancher/business guy in our very part time state legislature for many years became Lt. Gov when the guy who won was driven from office and shortly thereafter became governor when the elected guy had to resign…..he reminds me of Harry Truman. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Khirad – I am using “cult” in a genuie way, not as an insult. I did a bit of research on cults a while back and the behavior of Trump followers and the way he messages with them and manipulates them is classic cultism. AdLib 2 hours ago

K….Behavioral, Informational, thought, emotional control…BITE …makes sense MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Murph–I’m with the old GOP guard. I want blood, too. Maybe not literal blood, but figurative blood. As in the RTLB being put behind bars for the rest of his life. His cult can worship him while he’s in jail, I don’t care. But I want to see him humiliated, disgraced, debased, and behind bars with no Twitter feed. glenn 2 hours ago

PPO – If the election was held today and the polls turned out as results, Biden would be over 400, Trump would hardly break 100. AdLib 2 hours ago

Glenn…I want him gasping for air (financial, and social) for the rest of his fat, bald, old life…. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Ad…I expect Trump to either exit the race….or plan on throwing it into the House in a well organized disputing of its results. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

I have no doubt that Trump wil get more horrible and do and say more awful things but I can’t see any way that it helps his numbers or brings him more voters. Trump is painted into a corner now, there is noo way out, even with cheating since most swing states now have Dem governors. AdLib 2 hours ago

Murph–Sounds good to me…I want him to live for a while after his defeat, so we can watch him. glenn 2 hours ago

It’s going to be a fiasco this noverber. Harleigh 2 hours ago

Agree, Murph, I want the bugger destitute for the first time in his blighted existence pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

AD, I’m agreeing with you. On the BITE model just check off the Information Control. Steven Hassan and other former Cult members tell stories that are strikingly familiar. If there’s a spectrum or Venn diagram, Trumpists are a bit more than even a Personality Cult. Khirad 2 hours ago

PPO….and publicly destitute unable to get debt relief, and personally reviled from both sides. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Ad, I think his days of saying horrible things and them having any real effect is now gone. He has cried Wolf too many times. We’re all on to his smoke and mirror tactics. pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

mein kompf is the playbook like we saw on TV WWII germany for 20 years. same thing Harleigh 2 hours ago

Murph – Exactly, Trump’s failure would be his cultists failure and the very reason they bow to him is that they see their own hatred and ignorance in him. They are wholly vested in his staying in power no matter what. Let’s face it, around 38% of this country are immoral, hateful and selfish people. And most of those people are racists either by being such or by rationalizing away that they can overlook it in Trump. AdLib 2 hours ago

Murph, bring back the Poor House for him! pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Murph–I really don’t want the RTLB to exit the race. I have a question about that. If the RTLB does exit the race, then I think Biden’s poll numbers go waaay down. Then the repubs can nominate someone else and the outraged repubs can go back to voting republican. Although the RTLB wouldn’t have made it this far without republicans propping him up, I think that the RTLB dropping out would actually not be a good thing for Dems. It’s one of those “be careful what you wish for” things. glenn 2 hours ago

Glenn…I go further…I want his sons, his daughter, and his minions hounded into hell’s flames….a lesson must be conveyed….Grifters who seek the White House will be punished awesomely when they exit from it. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

RICO! pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

glenn, could Pence atually have a chance against Joe? pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Thanks for the BITE info, Khirad. AdLib 2 hours ago

Ad, and that investment makes them rather dangerous too. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

I think we can all agree that there is no low too low for the RTLB after his defeat. glenn 2 hours ago

Ad–It’s so sad to me that over 30% of my fellow Americans are so immoral, selfish, hateful, and I would add, racist. glenn 2 hours ago

I just got started, but I’m fading in my attention. I’ve got a million ideas swimming in my brain right now, including Harleigh’s comment right now. I’m watching about the enabling act and I still want to research more about Otto Wels and the SDP in Germany and the rise of Hitler – who was totally a Leftist even though… uggggh. I just wait in debates for them to try that point. I’m preaching to the choir here, but please try to play the liberal fascist card on me – just try it. Khirad 2 hours ago

Murph–Yup. Lock them all up! I’d really like to see what color Princess Sparkle Pony’s hair really is! glenn 2 hours ago

Anyway, as I just said, I have thoughts swimming in my head at a thousam MPH so I need say adieu and get centered. See y’all later! Khirad 2 hours ago

Glenn….the GOP would have to come up with someone….my guess is that it would be Pence who would lose…they will throw their weight into keeping the Senate using the theme that if the Dems have it all, House/Senate/White House there will be Holy Hell to pay….so “for the sake of balance, please let us keep the Senate:. To which I say: You GOP have lost all claims to legitimacy and must earn the chance back to be considered for national leadership anywhere in the government. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

‘night, Kh pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

later kh Harleigh 2 hours ago

Goodnight K….you added a lot of lofty thinking to our rambles tonight. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Agree 100% murph. GOP are history for the next few cycles. pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Murph – It’s possible of course but I don’t read Trump that way. He’s a denialist, he refuses to see reality when it doesn’t compliment him on hoow he’s lost weight. All polls showing him losing are hoaxes and even though a part of him knows it’s true, he thinks he is able to shape reality by declarng what he wants to be true. Trump is unlikely to drop out and be seen as a quitter, he will run the race and think he could win anyway…and if not, he’ll use every tactic he can think of to disqualify the election (which ain’t gonnna happen). AdLib 2 hours ago

Ad, will he debate Joe? pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Watching Trump now…..he is so lost in his own totally fantastical space…. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

bigly Harleigh 2 hours ago

PPO–I think anyone but the RTLB could have a chance against Joe. It gives the average republican voter an “out”. Right now, if they are going to vote, they’ll vote for Joe because he’s the anti-trump. It’s much like the 2016 election. People hated Hillary so much that they would’ve voted for the devil himself (which they actually did) to keep her out of office. If the RTLB exits the race, then the average republican voter can justify voting republican again. They won’t think about how the republicans in Congress aided and abetted the RTLB; they’ll just go with the surface justification, which is the repub nominee is not the RTLB. glenn 2 hours ago

Ad…I want him to run…I really do….the more he runs the more pain down the road for him and his minions. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

The speech he is reading right now is pure Miller…… MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

PPO – Absolutely, Trump is desperate to have debates with Joe. First off, the candidate who’s behind always wants debates, hoping something their opponent says could change the dynamics of the race. In fact, Trump’s campaign tried to get Biden to agree to many more debates and Bden’s camp said, get lost, just the debates as usual. AdLib 2 hours ago

Hey NoMan! AdLib 2 hours ago

NoMan….long, long time…..good to see you. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Hi, Noman pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

this cult is the megachurches and rwnj white supremacists Harleigh 2 hours ago

glenn – What is Trump even running on, what is he promising to do if he even had 4 more years? Nothing. He just wants to keep power. How is that a message that will brinng him more voters than his cult? AdLib 2 hours ago

No Man….what is new, or old with you? MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Murph–I agree. But most republicans won’t focus on the GOP’s enabling of the RTLB. They will just be looking for an excuse to vote repub again. Also, repubs are going to push the court issue big time, if the RTLB exits. If the repubs keep the Senate, they can keep packing the federal courts, including the SCOTUS, and most republicans are just fine with that. glenn 2 hours ago

Glenn….yes, the courts are the one place that Trump is going to leave his mark…god help us….and the Senate staying GOP is essential in blocking Dems from doing their own court packing to balance it out. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Murph – Trump will run and he needs to run so that he can be beaten and thrown away in front of the whole country and the world. That statement, that racists and dictators are losers and rejected in the US will be a powerful symbol to the country and the world. AdLib 2 hours ago

Harleigh – Yep, that’s pretty much it. The ignorant, fearful, hateful and bigoted. How proud Trump is of a constituency that really reflects him. AdLib 2 hours ago

Ad…while some, perhaps many, will carry away that message, I fear that much of the world will want more evidence that we are not as bad as we seemed to be in his four years. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

glen – But I think Dems and Indies and Never Trump Repubs will far outweigh any remaining enthusiasm the sickly Trumpers will still have in Nov. AdLib 2 hours ago

Ad–All that you say about the RTLB is true as far as denying reality, etc. In addition, so far, he has not suffered any consequences for his actions. Not any consequences of any matter. The repubs propped him up from the Mueller report; they refused to hold an impeachment trial; no repub has spoken out about his selling out of our troops, so why wouldn’t he continue with the things that have worked for him before? I don’t think he understands how many average Americans have finally had enough of his shit, so I agree. He will not change; we have to vote him out of office, convict him for his crimes, and lock him up before he will change. And even then, I suspect, it will be someone else’s fault. glenn 2 hours ago

Agree, Ad. The world needs to see him humiliated and rejected and his dismal record reduced to little footnotes in US History. No library, a blank frame in the WH and other rejections of his existence. pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Murph – And hopefully, Biden and Dems in Congress, getting rid of the filibuster, will have a whirlwind first 100 days to make massive changes that show the country and the world that America is back, baby! AdLib 2 hours ago

they’ll need to change some laws and clean up the court fiasco. Harleigh 2 hours ago

OK, folks. I’m away. See you all next week. Hope Mt Rushmore is still there then pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

later ppo Harleigh 2 hours ago

So long PPO MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

roght behind ya… nite folks Harleigh 2 hours ago

glenn – It’s typical of criminals, they never thnk they will get caught before they commit a crime. Trump has gotten away with every awful thing he’s done in his life, why would this turn out any differently, he’s probably thinking. But he is so wrong now and he will never accept it. AdLib 2 hours ago

Until he loses on Nov 3. AdLib 2 hours ago

I too am going to call it a night…..great discussion. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

And the world needs to see Trump coonvicted of his crimes. AdLib 2 hours ago

Not to mention, Ghislaine Maxwell spilling on Trump about his dirty business with Epstein. AdLib 2 hours ago

I hope her lawyers will be more successful protecting her than Epstein’s were. AdLib 2 hours ago

NoMan and glenn, still here? AdLib 2 hours ago

Murph–I’m with you. No easy way out for the RTLB. He needs to see this through to the end and LOSE in a big way! glenn 2 hours ago

PPO–g’night. glenn 2 hours ago

glenn – The only way Trump thinks he can win is by tearing the country apart into total chaos. And we’re not playing that. AdLib 2 hours ago

Ad–I’m still here. Had to take a short break. As for the RTLB’s platform and getting new voters, he has no platform except for division and racism and he is losing voters, not gaining them. glenn 2 hours ago

Ad–I agree. I think the American people, or at least the majority of them, have finally said, “Enough”. There is nothing that justifies keeping this man in office. I also want to see the turtle and lindsey defeated big time, too. glenn an hour ago

Trump has all the racists and neo-Nazis voting for him already. He thinks there are tons of them out there he can bring out to vote who haven’t voted before. Not in a country falling apart under him. And they don’t exist anyway. AdLib an hour ago

Ad–the Ghislaine Maxwell issue is just a side issue. Won’t change anyone’s mind. glenn an hour ago

Exactly. There are only about 30% of the US supporting him. And, boy, are they showing up on social media, or what? glenn an hour ago

Unless something I can’t think of happens, Dems will win back The Senate, keep The House and get the WH. Unified power in DC and as I say, they better trash the filibuster and get down to making huge changes as soon as they get in because all of the madness going on now will still be going on then. Big things need to get done quickly. Then Dems will earn support to retaiin power for a much longer time. AdLib an hour ago

Maybe Maxwell will be a side story but Barr tried his best to take over the SDNY before she was arrested and charged. An accusation of raping a minor isn’t exactly going to be irrelevant against Trump as he tries to win re-election. AdLib an hour ago

I also have to laugh at the RTLB actually calling out Biden’s intellectual capacity. I don’t know who told him that this is a good idea; it probably came from his “great brain” himself. It has already backfired big time. When they debate, it will be clear whose intellectual capacity is diminished. To most of us, it’s already clear, but the delusion is strong with the RTLB. glenn an hour ago

I think it’s more around 38% that are Trump cultists. But a clear minority, he can’t win in a fair election nd if it’s a landslide, you can’t do enough cheating without being too obvious to give him the win. AdLib an hour ago

Yes, this is Trump’s enormous problem. There is nothing he can attack Biden for that he isn’t worse on exponentially. Comparing videos of mental diminishment, on race, healthcare, the military, nothing Trump can attack him on that doesn’t prove Trump worse. AdLib an hour ago

Ad–I hope you’re correct about the Dems winning it all. When they do, I really think it will be time for Pelosi to step down. She has outplayed the RTLB many times, but it’s time for new blood. Dems need to focus on people like Katie Porter, and other young Congress people. Let them start leading us out of the wilderness. glenn an hour ago

Not so sure that an accusation of raping a minor is going to be that big a deal. It wasn’t in the 2016 election, where that same charge was leveled against him. glenn an hour ago

Couldn’t agree more. Big fan of Katie Porter (a Warren ally). And let’s get ris of useless Schumer. Let Warren be Majority Leader if she’s not VP. AdLib an hour ago

Still, 38% is, as you say, a minority. Sorry, I keep trying to lower how many stupid Americans we have. glenn an hour ago

Yup. That is why I cannot fathom why the RTLB thinks this is a winning issue. glenn an hour ago

glenn – But if it’s coming as testimony from Maxwell, as an eyewitness and now that the woman who claimed Trump raped her at 13 has re-filed her suit, it coudl all come crashing down on him. Then, at the very least, he will be so toxic, many of his supporters will stay home. AdLib an hour ago

Schumer also needs to go. Warren for Majority Leader, and who would you choose for Speaker? glenn an hour ago

glenn – It’s still a shocking number and way too may hateful, ignorant people to be voting out there. AdLib an hour ago

That’s a good question. I could see Adam Schiff as a strong speaker. AdLib an hour ago

I hope you’re correct about Maxwell’s testimony–that is, if she testifies. That is my best hope; that even those who would hold their nose to vote for the RTLB will decide that raping a minor is too much, and just stay home. glenn an hour ago

Nadler has to go. I think his heart is in the right place but he gets plowed over all the time by Repubs. AdLib an hour ago

I look at this race as a demolition derby. If we can keep getting Trump trashed by one revelation after another, like his niece Mary’s book too, he will be kept on his heels and on the defense. It just keeps hammering him into the ground. AdLib an hour ago

Adam Schiff is a good candidate for Speaker. Right now, I can’t think of anyone else but that’s because I’m tired and can’t think of many Dem reps off the top of my head. glenn an hour ago

That’s a great way to describe this race. I see the RTLB bouncing around like a bumper car trying to “answer” one revelation after another. glenn an hour ago

Schiff has the seniority, he’s not terribly old and he is brilliant. Other younger Reps should be borught up but can’t think of any I would rather have as Speaker. AdLib an hour ago

Exactly, that’s the best way to weaken Trump ad keep him off balance, having to constantly defend himself and whine about being attacked. Take the offense away from him (but we could never take the “offensiveness” away from him. AdLib an hour ago

I agree. I do love listening to Schiff as he excoriates the RTLB. With that being said, I’m calling it a night, Ad. Have you any plans for the Fourth? I’m just staying home; sometimes I can see the fireworks from my house, but I’m not even sure they’re having them this year. Anyway, good night and I hope you and your family have a good weekend! glenn an hour ago

I’ve been looking at it that way. The multiple failures in all of these diasters and social uprising followed by Bolton’s book, followed by hopefully the SCOTUS releasinng his taxes then at the end of the month, Mary Trump’s book and we’re in August with Trump still buried. Then debates putting him on the hot seat for all of his lies and failures then the election. AdLib an hour ago

Same as you, staying home, Newsom has closed the beaches and asked folks not to go out. Wasn’t going to anyway. Hope yoou have a nice but quiet 4th! AdLib an hour ago

Oh, BTW, my nephew has bought me a copy of Bolton’s book. I would have never bought it myself, but he thought I would enjoy reading it, so he’s sending me a copy to read during my self-imposed quarantine. I’ll let you know how it is. Take care, and g’night! glenn an hour ago

Well, that was thoughtful and kind of him. It should be quite a read! Have a great weekend! AdLib an hour ago

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