Today, I made North Carolina history. I have become the first openly-transgender person in state history to seek election to our State Legislature.
I am running because I dare to dream what may be possible rather than accept what is.
What is
600,000 North Carolinians lack even the ability to access basic healthcare, because of cost. We can do better. Our Legislature refuses to even discuss expanding Medicaid, preferring that over 1/2 a million of our citizens go without healthcare. That taxes we pay to Washington partly fund the expanded Medicaid program in 33 other states.
They would prefer our rural health clinics, doctors and hospitals struggle to remain open, rather than increasing the number of people able to visit them, enabling them to remain solvent and continue to serve the rural population.
What is
A severe shortage in school support staff, especially school counselors and nurses. If our children are not able to stay healthy, they cannot learn. This is an injustice. We can and must do better.
What is
We are working off our third set of maps in five years, because the NC-GOP is incapable of drawing District maps that comply with the free and fair election provisions of the NC Constitution. It is beyond time we took the map-drawing duties out of the hands of elected officials with a vested interest in the outcome, and placed them in the hands of a non-partisan citizen’s redistricting committee which would draw maps that the Legislature can then vote on without amendments.
Gerrymandering is bad, regardless of which Party engages in it, and it deprives citizens of one of the most important rights a citizen has…the ability to cast a ballot that matters; the ability to hold their elected officials accountable.
What is
Is a state with a large agricultural economy – placed at disadvantage, because our government forbids local governments from buying or leasing equipment to provide broadband access to citizens in rural areas the private companies refuse to serve.
Economic development does not come to areas unserved by broadband, health records are increasingly transmitted via the Internet, and the latest precision agricultural equipment depends on a broadband signal. lack of this hurts our farmers and hurts our economy. This is the rural electrification of our century.
What is
A majority Party in our Legislature that refuses to hold votes when they know the votes will not go their way, rather than coming to the table to negotiate in good faith with the minority Party. This is not democracy, if you only have a vote when you know what the outcome will be.
Because of this, we currently lack a state budget. Our Governor vetoed the budget…which he, by law, had ten days to do. Our Legislature should have a comparable limit, they must override within ten days, or the veto stands. Instead, the NC-GOP treated NC to a four-month-long dog and pony show, complete with dirty tricks, refusing to vote, and holding our teachers and many other school and state employees hostage. Many programs are not being funded even at previous levels, because of this lack of a budget.
What is
We have a State Legislature that continues to cut funding to education, even as our state’s Lottery increases its support of education. This was not the intent of voters who approved the Lottery in 2006. The intent was for the Lottery funds to supplement funds from the General Assembly, not supplant them.
What is
A state that refuses to value and protect its LGBTQ citizens, and grant them full civil rights and protects of law.
All of these things and more, I pledge to work on as the next Senator from District 18.
What I dare to dream
I dream of a state in which all voices are heard, not just those of the rich, powerful and connected. A government that works for ALL of its citizens, not just the few who can afford to hire lobbyists. I dream of educational excellence and economic opportunity…I dream of a state we can all be proud to say is our home.
Too many of our citizens’ voices are not being heard; their challenges remain unaddressed. I am running because I hear their voices, and I want to make sure our government does, too.
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Congrats and wishing you all the best! I’m sorry for some of the comments I just read – and see some things never change. People that “claim” they are Christian and are complicit in their cruelty to others … only use Christianity as an excuse to be a bully and have their own issues. You are going to be great for NC!
Thanks. And, after 25 years, I am pretty inured to my critics. Water off a duck’s back.
You have to have a pretty thick skin just to run for office at all. And to be transgender, especially in North Carolina…and to be that openly for the last 25 years…you have to have a pretty thick skin.
Now imagine what it takes to both be what I am…and to run for office!
Oh, there’s times it hurts, I won’t deny that. But you just have to let it go and not let it get you off track. You learn to recognize it for what it is…they cannot attack your message…because it is right and they know it. They lack counterarguments. And so they try to attack the messenger.
That – in my case – is an exercise in futility. I am totally confident in my own identity, and have now lived more than half my life in that identity. I am past the point where they ever had a chance to define me. I will define me…nobody else has that right.
Congrats Angela. I know it’s been a bit of a battle for you but you’re persevering.
Yeah. Just wish the Primary were in May instead of March. I lose almost a whole month of fundraising and canvassing and phonebanking. NOBODY wants to get canvassed, phonebanked or solicited for campaign contributions during the holidays.
But in order to get a message out…you need money. Trying to figure out how to do this during holidays.
To Jondo…and any other detractors that want to focus on my transgender status as something which is bad:
Hatred requires no effort, and no bravery. If you want to do something worthwhile, and build something…try love. Love takes both effort and bravery. Do you have what it takes?
You are engaging in gender fraud
Wrong. My gender was always my gender and it was always female. Nobody ASKED ME what I felt before they arbitrarily assigned me to a gender…and to a role I was never meant to have.
Truthfully, this is why I do not even like the term “transgender” for myself. My SEX changed, not my gender. But the word “transsexual” has fallen out of favor in our community. Thus, I identify myself as simply “trans” – it can mean transgender to them…and TRANSSEXUAL to me. I only use the term “transgender” for myself, when speaking with an audience that I am not sure understands the subtlety of our lexicon.
The only fraud…was my ever being assigned male. It is not a role I was ever wired or equipped to play. I tried. I tried real hard…badly, too…because it was never the right role for me.
Just can’t leave things alone can you Jondo. It’s folks like you that make it so hard for others who don’t believe as you do to come to your side of the religious aisle. Because you’ve set yourself up as judge, which according to scripture you have no right to do. How does it go, “do not judge less you should be judged.”
Have to give you credit though you’re consistent you were a jerk on Yabberz, and you’ve brought that same crap with you here at The Planet. As I said to you before, go play in the traffic on South Salina Street I’m sure you know it well.
Finally, for someone who has always set themself up as some self-righteous Christian you’re the antithesis of what Jesus preached about love for one’s fellow human. As I’ve said to you before you’re pathetic.
I blocked him on Yabz for what I call G.P (General Principles) – as soon as I saw his icon was a Confederate flag…I knew there was nothing he had to say that I wanted to hear.
Our Pope intentionally misstated the bit about judging. Its about condemning. As stated I do not condemn
https://www.bibletruths.org/jesus-does-not-condemn-you/
Your Pope? You make me feel ashamed to call myself a Catholic. Shame on your hate. Neither the Church nor Jesus approves of your misguided version of Christianity. This hate speech will not be accepted here at the Planet, and as your only comments here have been to demean Angela, I suggest that you take your obnoxious harassment of another member somewhere else.
https://planetpov.com/faq/terms-of-use/
I have made expression NO of hate on YABBERZ where I posted daily for about 4 years nor here on Planet where I post in a blue moon. Melissa railed against views but she never put me off the site. Not only is there no hate but my posts are civil. I was a lifelong Democrat with a lifelong career in Public Service in income redistribution programs who voted for Obama twice. Melissa verified this. In the end Obama revolted me with his GLBT and abortion support and I voted for Trump.
So don’t become a speech fascist please. That is not what the party needs. The party needs an autopsy on these two items.
I have no idea who Melissa is and it has nothing to do with our Terms of Use on the Planet. Since you joined you have only commented on Angela’s posts to insult her, and I’m asking you to stop because it won’t be tolerated here.
I’ve heard “I voted for Obama twice” here more times than I can count from people who didn’t. We have unfortunately heard your hateful opinion about minorities claiming your religious beliefs as an excuse, and being a lifelong Christian myself, it won’t fly here.
If you want to join in on other discussions here you are welcome to do that. If you continue to harass Angela, I will remove your comments.
Thanks for your cooperation.
They were the Hortons who owned Yabberz. I came there by her invitation, her having seen me post at Huffington-liked my humor for being that she thought I was a RWer. I am here by invitation from Murph the Surf who was helpful in founding the site. Murph may have regretted the invite. I posted for a short while after Yabberz2 was established here at Planet POV but it became pretty dictatorial and stopped being fun. Your second sentence about Obama is in error. You are resorting to calling me a liar, I am not. I posted a profile on Yabberz which included a mention that Marched anti-Vietnam and anti-poverty and that I interned with a Congressman and got to hang out for a day with one of the Kent State who was shot in the heel. There was a Margaret Hedberg who verified that detail. I will post as I post as I post without restriction other then my own. So keep destroying the party, RWers will love you.
I continually said I do not hate the man in question. I address the behavior advocated. I address reality. The ball is in your court.
No, the ball is in your court. You will either follow our Terms of Use, or I will remove your comments because we have had complaints from other members.
I did not accuse you of lying, I just said that many people who came here would say that they had voted for Obama twice when later, through discussions, we realised that they were not Democrats at all.
I’m not destroying the party, people who cause division like you do are.
Angela is a woman whether you approve or not.
Please read our Terms of Use.
I have followed the terms of use, I made no expression of hate. I have not condemned him personally, I judge the behavior advocated. So are you saying the site is about mob rule? But you would destroy free speech in support of scientific fiction that DNA maleness can be changed by the will of a confused individual. What I am telling you is that the Democrats are destroying their own party by backing abortion and GLBT behaviors
You have condemned me in your words, and you have condemned me accusing me of gender fraud….and just now in misgendering me.
Your very first response to this post was to tell me to seek counseling….as if you had any right to suggest that.
If you are gonna discriminate against me and hate on me for being what I am, the least you could do is acknowledge my gender pronouns.
Good day to you.
Angela its not about you its about the nature of the behavior you advocate
I advocate treating other people as you would like to be treated yourself. And you have a problem with this?
Who am I in fact actually HURTING by being transgender? Nobody. If people like you would just let us live our lives and leave us alone and stop discriminating against us…we would not have to be as “in your face” about it as we are.
You and people like you started the war on us. We did not ask for it. But we WILL fight back when we are attacked.
You have obviously not understood our Terms of Use and continue to attack Angela with your misguided beliefs. You could have stated your disapproval of the LGBT community in one comment and left it there but you chose to insult her in every comment. A true Christian would never use their beliefs to demean others. We are about love, understanding and compassion for others.
You have made this thread all about your hate for others when it was written about her campaign that includes issues that have nothing to do with gender. I won’t allow you to continue to disrupt and disrespect other members.
I have said all I want to say. This discussion is over for me. I’m disgusted.
Liberals are attempting to pervert the meaning of Christianity. Liberalism is Futile philosophy
I am a Catholic and have been taught love, understanding and compassion since I was a small child so don’t you dare tell me that political and social beliefs are perverting Christianity. I have always thought this way and most Christians I know, do too. You are the one living in the past obstructing progress. You push your extreme religious ideals on others. You are the sinner here. I’m done. No need to reply.
You voted for trump, that’s all I need to know about you.
Food for Thought for a person claiming Catholic beliefs. The are fascinating links.
https://www.cleansingfire.org
Just an aside did you notice how Angela dismissed a life’s work in antipoverty, Racial Equality Anti War, and income redistribution just because I call a spade a spade in regard to GLBT.
Exactly how have I dismissed a life’s work in those areas?
And how have YOU not dismissed a life’s work in overcoming adversity? And, I might add…ADVERSITY CAUSED BY PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND YOUR INTOLERANCE OF PEOPLE WHO ARE DIFFERENT FROM YOURSELF?
Hoo-boy… I have to bleach my eyes after having taken a look at “cleansing fire.” As a Catholic, I have to ask myself: “How long, Oh Lord?” How long will we have to deal with this aging claque who long to return to the days of the Latin Mass, the stifled nun in the burka— excuse me— habit, and the protected pedophile priest?These are not vigorous followers of a dynamic Christ. They are wannabe historical re-enactors who pray for it to be 1952 again with Fulton Sheen as Pope.
Unfortunately Our Pope is the one protecting the gay pedos and their enablers
Hardly. But as a card carrying right wing fundie, I suppose you’d have to stick with the script you’ve been handed.
what do you suggest that is untrue about my statement
Your first comment. You have spent 9 days harassing another member and pushing your minority religious beliefs of condemnation, lack of understanding and fear of the other.
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You should seek counseling not office. Then seek to make society better.
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so you recognize Transgenderism as Cognitive Dissonance?
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You can never be a woman. You can engage is gender fraud
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Those are the End Times Sealed. Jesus will judge the rest.
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GLBT is a Sin. The fate of God’s creation is in God’s hands not mine. I do enjoy life and have no desire to cut it short
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II do not wish to upset you fragile ego but while liberals and progressives may have had a short day in the sun and they may have a few days left Christians have faith that God will deliver his kingdom and his values to the whole world and that Jesus will be King.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/04/05/christians-remain-worlds-largest-religious-group-but-they-are-declining-in-europe/
Currently the Church is being chastised by God for the sins in the Church. But this will only make it stronger. There is also prophesy that a Pope will be assassinated. But fear not.
The powers/nations are being destroyed.
Where are the Sumerians? Long gone.
“Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment.”
Jesus’ last words to the adulteress release her from liability before the impromptu court, but He still judges her for her sin of adultery: “Go and sin no more.”
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Hi JONDO,
new reply have been posted by the AdLib on the discussion section you’ve been interested in
https://planetpov.com/2019/12/05/papers-filed-north-carolina-has-first-in-history-openly-trans-candidate-for-state-legislature/#comment-250313
Do you really believe that all of these simple concepts that all societies adopt, including ones that aren’t Christian, were invented by the Bible? Respecting others, whether parents or spouses, is not anyone’s invention. It’s common behavior even among animals. And no, bearing false witness in the Bible just refers to lying which is not against the law. You really think the Bible was referring to perjury in a criminal trial? No, coveting is not stealing, it is the act of wanting which is not a crime. The 8th Commandment already says, “Don’t steal”. Did they just throw that in a second time to round out the number of commandments to 10? The irony is that many of those who claim to be very religious seem less informed about their religion than those who aren’t. The bottom line is that the U.S. is NOT a “Christian Nation”. Most of its laws are not based on the Bible or Christianity. So neither you nor any follower of any religion has justification to declare an official religion for the country that excludes any who have different religious beliefs. Your “moral” opinions are just simple prejudices. There are many religious Christians who exhibit the love of Christ and love their neighbor no matter how they differ from them. Christ did not preach prejudice or hostility. I would challenge you to share one single quote from him in the Bible that validates your prejudice against your neighbors.
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Hi JONDO,
new reply have been posted by the AdLib on the discussion section you’ve been interested in
https://planetpov.com/2019/12/06/facing-facts-the-gop-is-a-russian-asset/#comment-250314
Not a very high bar you’re setting there. If that’s the best you can do, okay.
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“Invented by the bible”? God’s Commandments were given to us by God. Regarding the equivalency of humans and animals, animals do not write law. Sorry lying to the police and courts is ILLEGAL. Common lying is not illegal. Where would society be if we could lie legally to the police. Thank a Christian. I said that many of the “actions’ resulting from coveting are illegal. The coveting motive is not the action of theft nor does it just pertain to stealing. Remember the movie Hannibal the serial killer coveted what he first saw. He did not steal he possessed as his action. This is still a Christian Nation despite the efforts of some progressives. Morality is not prejudice. Moreover I am not prejudiced. One is not prejudiced against a behavior.
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Your belief that only two Commandments can be related to US Law shows why you so misunderstand Christians. Commandments 1-4 relate to our personal relationship with God not society. #5 honor your father and mother. The moral relationship is ingrained in law until emancipation because the family is the basis of society. Oh and note, man and woman not some mishmash. #7 you shall not commit adultery. Entrenched Until recently but the libs have been pecking away at this. But adultery is still has legal consequences in divorce and the responsibility for children. You did acknowledge #6 and 8. #9 False witness – try lying to law enforcement or a court. #10 you shall not covet. Acting on coveting and taking what is not yours covers a huge range of range of legal consequences.
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We are not hurting you by preventing the spread of perverted behavior. If you can avoid the conduct we are helping you repent.
Asking does not change your NATURE. There is no need to ask you anything. Your confusion is not important except to the extent that you do damage to children or others.
Your reference to science is an untruth.
Your paragraph about the DMS is a flat out lie.
No one is denying you a job, a home, healthcare…
Praying for your repentance and mental health.
I am certain Jesus is praying for you too
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not without belief in Jesus as the Son of God
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Thank you I am sincere even to Angela. The GLBTers are the political bullies attempting to convince society that immoral behavior deserves the protection of law.
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I do not hate you. I do not condemn you or take vengeance on you. I judge the behavior as being wrong
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then he said this, Sin No More
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I know that each of us individuals is a creation of God. I know that Jesus will Judge our behavior and deeds. Praying that Angela repents
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I know that each of us individuals is a creation of God. I know that Jesus will Judge our behavior and deeds. Praying that Angela repents
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I have no hostility to Mr. Angela and certainly no prejudice and above all no hate. I simply recognize what the sin is. You do not acknowledge Jesus’s injunction to Sin No More. Do You? Hence the perversion.
If you check back in the conversion you will see I gave you two quotes
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You are advocating a perverted expression of Christianity. Repent and Sin No More.
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Liberals are attempting to pervert the meaning of Christianity. Liberalism is Futile philosophy
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I have followed the terms of use, I made no expression of hate. I have not condemned him personally, I judge the behavior advocated. So are you saying the site is about mob rule? But you would destroy free speech in support of scientific fiction that DNA maleness can be changed by the will of a confused individual. What I am telling you is that the Democrats are destroying their own party by backing abortion and GLBT behaviors
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I have made expression NO of hate on YABBERZ where I posted daily for about 4 years nor here on Planet where I post in a blue moon. Melissa railed against views but she never put me off the site. Not only is there no hate but my posts are civil. I was a lifelong Democrat with a lifelong career in Public Service in income redistribution programs who voted for Obama twice. Melissa verified this. In the end Obama revolted me with his GLBT and abortion support and I voted for Trump.
So don’t become a speech fascist please. That is not what the party needs. The party needs an autopsy on these two items.
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You are engaging in gender fraud
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yes Jesus loves you and wants your behavior to merit salvation
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Remember I voted for Trump for his Supreme Court picks not his policies ask the old Yabberz Posters if this is true.
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Another thing. Mr. Angela has now CHOSEN a Public Life. We all know that makes one fair game for COMMENT without harassment. But I do not harass.
Again, the disrespect of misgendering. I am not surprised that intolerant hateful people like yourself would engage in this.
You cannot attack my message, my platform or my agenda, because you lack counterarguments…so you seek to attack the messenger.
Won’t work. Water off a duck’s back, you need to have thick skin to be trans. You need thick skin just to run for office, even if you are not trans. Imagine what it takes to both be trans AND run for office?
Believe me, I have dealt with far worse than you in my 25 years as an out transgender woman.
Of course, the other possible answer for your abuse is simple human psychology. You feel badly about yourself, for whatever reason, so…instead of trying to build yourself up…which is hard, trust me, I know…after transition I had to start all over from scratch…instead of doing the hard thing and building yourself up….you’d rather tear someone else down.
Well, if it makes you feel better…then have at it. But you are not affecting me, and you will not define me.
Only I define me. Nobody else gets to.
She was targeted by you when her first article was published here months ago. Your lame excuse has no merit at all. I read every comment on this site.
That’s Ms. Bridgman and your continuing insults are noted. Give it a rest. It is boring and very tiresome already. No one here shares your distorted religious excuses to hate something you don’t understand and therefore fear of recognising her as a human being.
You have done nothing but harass and insult her as my comment listing your comments proves.
I address behavior.
Like this comment on Steppenwolfe’s post about Epstein.
“Is it the 1% who are intentionally dividing and paralyzing a decent American to maintain theirown power and position?”
https://www.vox.com/recode/2019/12/13/21021008/pete-buttigieg-reed-hastings-laurene-powell-jobs-sergey-brin-eric-schmidt-fundraiser-palo-alto
Remember I voted for Trump for his Supreme Court picks not his policies ask the old Yabberz Posters if this is true.
Jondo, the central and primary rule in posting here is to refrain from personal attacks. We provide some leeway on this as you should know since we haven’t moderated any of your comments to date.
You are free to express your religious and political beliefs as long as they don’t devolve into a pattern of personal attacks and insults.
We certainly don’t think it is difficult for anyone to express what they believe without the need to demean or devalue another person or group of people.
For example, you could express that due to your religious beliefs, you view folks in the LGBTQ community as sinners, you can express that you don’t think they should be entitled to equality or decency, whatever you believe but when you personally attack Angela or an entire community in a degrading way, that is a violation of our Terms of Use.
I know you’re no stranger to being rebuked at Yabberz or here for your hostilities towards those who you claim your religious beliefs entitle you to attack. So it would be odd if you claim to be unaware of how you intentionally provoke personal conflicts.
In any case, like every other member here, you have the freedom to express yourself on any issue as long as you stick to addressing an issue and do not engage in personal attacks and insults.
We have shown our good will and taking the higher ground by engaging you instead of moderating your comments that have included personal attacks. Personally, I think people who act like that publicly do more damage to themselves the more they’re allowed to display their character and that proposition is affirmed when the replies they receive are all rejecting their bigotry, hostility, etc..
One thing we believe in very strongly here at PlanetPOV is Freedom of Expression. We prefer to err on the side of allowing expression. But we also believe in the dignity of others no matter their beliefs (excepting those of hatred and prejudice) and the responsibility to stand up to bullying in whatever form it appears.
I know that if you chose to, you could freely express your most unpopular beliefs (a vast majority of America believes in LGBTQ equality, you are in a small minority that doesn’t) without personally attacking anyone.
What we are trying to do is encourage you to show this kind of conscience and exemplify what good Christians do, The Golden Rule that appears in the Bible, Matthew 7:12,
You are advocating a perverted expression of Christianity. Repent and Sin No More.
The Golden Rule is a perversion of Christianity? Judge not lest ye be judged is perverted?
There is a perversion of Christianity here indeed and it is by someone who calls Biblical teachings perverted to justify their unChristian bigotry.
I’ve asked twice but you’ve never replied because we both know you can’t so I’ll point out the truth again with the same challenge.
Quote one sentence from The Bible where Jesus says anything supporting your hostility and prejudice towards others.
You can never answer that because you know he didn’t. In fact, one who does not love thy neighbor as thyself is the type of person Jesus stood against.
So there’s that.
I have no hostility to Mr. Angela and certainly no prejudice and above all no hate. I simply recognize what the sin is. You do not acknowledge Jesus’s injunction to Sin No More. Do You? Hence the perversion.
If you check back in the conversion you will see I gave you two quotes
And there is the misgendering again. It is hostile and it is attacking me. But you have at it if it makes you feel better. You do not define me…only I get to do that.
That is part of living in a free country. You do not get to make my choices for me and you don’t get to define me.
The problem with you and people like you is that you cannot stand OTHER PEOPLE’S FREEDOM. You’ll have it for yourself, but will deny it to anyone who you decide is an enemy.
If LGBT revolts you, then you are no Democrat and never were. Good riddance to you, there is no place for people like you in our Party.
We have tolerance for everyone…except for those who fail to show tolerance to others. We do not have to tolerate that, and I, for one, will not.
by your definition I am not a Democrat. LOL see your own intolerance.
You have company
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014jan/24/governor-cuomo-conservatives-not-welcome-new-york
I am a tolerant person. That does NOT require me to tolerate intolerance. I have no tolerance for those who refuse to show tolerance for others.
You are engaging in religion fraud.
God is not a fraud
But you aren’t God.
I pray
Do you know what the primary purpose a Christian is supposed to have??
To spread the good news…and bring others to God.
You and people like you are really BAD AT IT.
Think about it…if someone comes to YOU with a message as comforting as a crown of thorns, how likely are you to listen to them?
You are driving people AWAY from God and Jesus…and thus you are an agent of Satan. Unwitting, perhaps, but an agent of Satan nevertheless.
yes Jesus loves you and wants your behavior to merit salvation
Man seeth the outside, but the Lord seeth the heart. I have no fear of what God or Jesus will see in my heart. Can you say the same, after the way you have continued to stalk and abuse and harass me?
Congratulations Angela! I wish the best for you and the people of the great state of North Carolina.
Thanks! I hope you and your family are well…I miss you from the old Yabz.
Congrats! Wishing you all good luck in your efforts Angela. (Excellent post BTW.)
You’re too kind, Opie. Thank you!
Angela…my friend, you make a remarkably clear, and cogent argument for why your states needs persons of integrity, with wisdom and a commitment to work for the people and not for themselves or for special interests who have paid for the loyalty of legislators. You clearly lay a claim to being such a person. As I said before, I will support you in this effort. I will make another contribution tonight.
May I suggest that you post this at New Yabz as well. It is worth being seen and your are worthy of the role you have undertaken.
All my admiration to you.
I am not even sure how to get to New Yabz anymore, or if I could post there.
Wishing you the best of luck and great success, Angela!
Some things are constant. Merry Christmas.
As we’ve learned from Trump, those who resort to such insults are usually projecting their own issues.
Hope this helps you with your issues:
Free Telephone Counseling Hotlines in the United States
Physician heal thyself
That is just a tactic to silence comment but Merry Christmas to you as well
Do you know that EVERY soul in this universe as well as EVERY universe is a projection of the Source of Consciousness (some people refer to this being as God). Therefore, just as you are a projection of the Source, so is Angela. AND since you are a projection of the Source and Angela is as well, you are also a projection of Angela from a different reality, as she is a projection of you from a different reality. Isn’t that amazing?
I know that each of us individuals is a creation of God. I know that Jesus will Judge our behavior and deeds. Praying that Angela repents
Although I don’t dispute that you BELIEVE Jesus will “judge” the behaviors of humans, you actually do not KNOW that. I was indoctrinated in the Christian doctrine as a child and I BELIEVE much of it. However, Christianity is a religion, and religions are created by men. Most religions, including Christianity, have some good and some bad.
I BELIEVE the Source of Consciousness created ALL things and allows those creations a free will to experience unlimited realities. I also believe the Source is continuously expanding and that it is boundless. It is not limited in ANY way. It has no gender, but rather it is ALL genders, which probably include some genders that humans don’t even know about and cannot comprehend.
Think you went off the rails at the end
Most humans cannot comprehend that concept, but that is okay. It is an evolution.
I don’t know about you, but I have my hands full with my own repentance. Above all else, the Christian God commands humans to LOVE. UNCONDITIONAL LOVE. As a practicing Christian, I am commanded to love you unconditionally and I am commanded to love Angela unconditionally. Maybe you practice a different kind of Christianity than I do, which you are entitled to do.
then he said this, Sin No More
It is not sinning to be that which I was created to be. I felt as a female long before I knew about the physical differences between boys and girls…let alone adult relations. I always felt I belonged among the girls…they enjoyed the same activities I enjoyed, and I hated the activities boys engaged in.
I did not fit in with the boys and did not feel I belonged among them. Because I felt this way from my earliest memory…and long before I knew of the physical differences, long before I knew about adult relations, and long before I knew about sin….I can only conclude I was created to be the way I am.
And being that which I was created to be is not sinful.
On the other hand, I believe that stalking and harassing another person, and not treating them as you yourself would wish to be treated is a sin…it goes directly against what your Lord commanded of you.
Indeed. That is recorded as being said by Jesus. And as YOU have stated, Jesus is the authority to judge sins, not you or me.
Matthew 7:1-3 King James Version (KJV)
Given our own limitations, why would we even want the burden of judging the sins of others, whether we think they are sins or not. IF you and I unconditionally love all of “God’s” creation, THAT is the most important thing we can do, according to the Christian “God”.
Matthew 22:36-40 New International Version (NIV)
Let us endeavor to do what “God” commanded us to do, and let “God” do what ONLY “God” CAN do.
Endeavor away.
https://christianciv.com/blog/index.php/2015/09/08/judge-others-jesus-said-to/
I have no need to repent from being transgender. I am what I was created to be. Did you ever stop to think that JUST MAYBE…people like me were created as a test for YOU? Your Lord commanded you to love ALL PEOPLE. So maybe people like me were created to test you…will you REALLY love all people?
Incidentally, as I am now seventeen years beyond the surgery…going back would not be possible…even if I wanted to…which I do not.
I do not need or want your acceptance, your tolerance or your permission. I need only for you to repent of your hateful ways towards me and to treat me as you yourself would want to be treated. If you find you cannot do this, then we have nothing further to say to each other. And you will answer to your Creator for the way you have treated me and people like me.
Meanwhile, I refer you to Romans 12:19 – It is NOT your place to take vengeance against me and people like me in the name of God…and when you do so, you blaspheme against your Creator.
I will account for my own life. You should worry more about your own.
Have a nice day.
I do not hate you. I do not condemn you or take vengeance on you. I judge the behavior as being wrong
And what do you call supporting laws that take away the ability of my people to live…if not hate and vengeance?
I don’t like YOUR behavior. And I am sure I am not the only one. I would not advocate depriving YOU of the things which the maintenance of your life requires.
Again, projection. Your insult was intended to silence her free expression. Not only won’t that work here, it just reflects the typical hypocrisy of those who bully.
Christmas is a time for self-reflection and a consideration of one’s humanity. Wishing Merry Christmas in earnest reflects goodwill and the kind of person who could consider their compassion towards their fellow human beings. Said in cynicism, it is far more insulting of one’s own character or lack thereof.
So, in the spirit of the season and being an eternal optimist, I hope your wishes are earnest and I wish you a Merry Christmas.
Very, very well thought, well said and well presented. I have had a number of good conversations with Jondo. It saddens me that he seems so stuck so often. Angela deserves our respect.
Thanks Murph. You know me, I am fine with discussing differences of opinion with anyone, without it becoming a volley of personal attacks and insults.
That said, if a conversation does veer into personal attacks and insults, our ToU requires us to moderate it.
I never expect to change the prejudiced thinking of other people but I do try to offer a little perspective which hopefully may bring them to have at least a crumb of a doubt about harboring bigotry towards other human beings…which could have been them with a couple of changes of Fate.
Thank you I am sincere even to Angela. The GLBTers are the political bullies attempting to convince society that immoral behavior deserves the protection of law.
Let me tell you what we DO seek, Jondo, okay? I really do not even know why I engage you, because it is clear your mind is made up, and that we LGBTQ are all demons in your mind. But we aren’t. We’re just people. People wired a little differently than you are.
But, like you…we want to work, laugh, play, love and live. We care about the same things you do..or at least most people do. And those things are that I believe most of us have a desire to see a well-educated and healthy public…who can then be self-sufficient and drive economic opportunity that empowers and enriches all of us.
You see, in humans, there is a thing called a bell curve. Those who fall under that bell curve, which is arbitrarily defined…are considered “normal” – and those who do not…are not considered normal. But here is the thing…if we all fit under that curve, it would not be a curve, it would be a straight line…and how boring would THAT be? Also, some in society seem to have the idea that what falls outside the bell curve is BAD. It isn’t. It is just different.
Now…with all that background…which I sincerely hope you do read…let me tell you what our agenda as LGBTQ people is:
We do NOT seek any person’s permission or acceptance of our authentic selves. We do not feel the need to ask your permission, nor will we allow you to determine our validity or our truth.
We also do NOT seek to change any of your “sincerely-held beliefs” – religious or otherwise. We are not into being the Thought Police.
As I said, we are into being allowed, without unfair extra obstacles and without harassment or other additional impediment…to live, laugh, work, love and play…just like everyone else.
So the only thing we seek is the protection of our government to make that a reality. Because of people like you who will not simply live and let live. We seek only to prevent you from acting on those beliefs you hold…IN WAYS THAT CAUSE OBJECTIVE AND MEASURABLE HARM TO US.
Because, like you…we have a right to live. I doubt you have read all this,, but I hope that you have…and that you will consider my words. And I, in all sincerity wish you and yours a Merry Christmas, or Happy Hanukkah, or whatever holidays you and yours celebrate at this time.
I wish you peace and joy…just as I wish for my entire LGBTQ family…and myself.
You’re welcome, I would hope that there are always opportunities to discuss disagreements without ill will.
I understand that some believe their religious views should be instituted as laws but that is specifically prohibited by The Constitution of the U.S..
The U.S. was founded to provide religious freedom. Some religious folk have lost sight of why this country was founded in the first place.
I understand that for religious reasons, you have personally judged LGBTQ folks to be immoral and have taken that a step further to believe that they should not be legally protected from being victims of prejudices.
I have seen racists out there who believe black people are mostly criminals and immoral and undeserving of legal protections against attacks on them for their race.
Both sensibilities are, IMO, immoral.
Morality is not an absolute, your view of morality may strike me as immoral (which it does). But the difference between us is that I don’t believe those who I see as immoral are less deserving of legal protections than those I see of being moral.
The real test of one’s belief in justice is if they can apply it to people who disagree with them as fairly as they apply it to those who agree with their views.
Should a majority Muslim city be able to take away legal protections from Christians that Muslims continue to enjoy, simply because of the difference in religious beliefs and morality?
As a personal belief, as much as I disagree with you, you’re entitled to your opinion. However, advocating that the force of law is put behind a subjective belief about morality is the definition of injustice.
One of the finer counters to those who regard their moral stances as inherently superior of others on the basis of a moral system that is clearly subjective.
I remember you trying to claim to be a Christian Humanist. Contradictory terms.
The term Christian humanism has been used to refer to a wide range of views, some of which are more biblical than others. In general, humanism is a system of thought that centers on human values, potential, and worth; humanism is concerned with the needs and welfare of humanity, emphasizes the intrinsic worth of the individual, and sees human beings as autonomous, rational, and moral agents.
The extent to which this broad viewpoint is integrated with Christian beliefs determines exactly how biblical Christian humanism is.
Classical humanism, which is associated with the Renaissance, emphasized aesthetics, liberty, and the study of the “humanities” (literature, art, philosophy, and classical languages of Greek and Latin).
Secular humanism emphasizes human potential and self-fulfillment to the point of excluding all need for God; it is a naturalistic philosophy based on reason, science, and end-justifies-the-means thinking.
Christian humanism teaches that liberty, individual conscience, and intellectual freedom are compatible with, and supported by Christian principles and that the Bible itself promotes human fulfillment—based on God’s salvation in Christ and subject to God’s sovereign control of the universe.
Christian humanism represents the philosophical union of Christianity and classical humanist principles. While classical humanists studied Greek and Latin writings, Christian humanists turned to Hebrew and biblical Greek, along with the writings of the early church fathers. the patristics. Christian humanism, like classical humanism, pursues reason, free inquiry, the separation of church and state, and the ideal of freedom. Christian humanists are committed to scholasticism and the development and use of science and technology. Christian humanism says that all advances in knowledge, science, and individual freedom should be used to serve humanity for the glory of God. Unlike their secular counterparts, Christian humanists stress the need to apply Christian principles to every area of life, public and private.
Christian humanism maintains that humans have dignity and value due to the fact that mankind was created in the image of God (Genesis 1:27). The extent to which human beings are autonomous, rational, and moral agents is itself a reflection of their having been created in imago dei. Human worth is assumed in many places in Scripture: in Jesus’ incarnation (John 1:14), His compassion for people (Matthew 9:36), His command to “love your neighbor as yourself” (Mark 12:31), and His parable of the good Samaritan (Luke 10:30–37). Paul’s allusions to secular writings (Acts 17:28; Titus 1:12) show the value of a classical education in presenting truth. The second-century writings of Justin Martyr also demonstrate the usefulness of classical learning in bringing the gospel to a pagan audience.
Christian humanists understand that all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge are hidden in Christ (Colossians 2:3) and seek to grow into the full knowledge of every good thing for Christ’s service (Philippians 1:9; 4:6; cf. Colossians 1:9). Unlike secular humanists who reject the notion of revealed truth, Christian humanists adhere to the Word of God as the standard against which they test the quality of all things. The Christian humanist values human culture but acknowledges the noetic (i.e., intellectual) effects of man’s fallen nature (1 Corinthians 1:18–25) and the presence of the sin nature in every human heart (Jeremiah 17:9). Christian humanism says that man reaches his full potential only as he comes into a right relationship with Christ. At salvation, he becomes a new creation and can experience growth in every area of life (2 Corinthians 5:17).
Christian humanism says that every human endeavor and achievement should be Christ-centered. Everything should be done to God’s glory and not in pride or self-promotion (1 Corinthians 10:31). We should strive to do our best physically, mentally, and spiritually in all that God desires us to do and be. Christian humanists believe this includes intellectual life, artistic life, domestic life, economic life, politics, race relations, and environmental work.
Christian humanism believes the church should be actively involved in the culture and that Christians should be a voice affirming the worth and dignity of humanity while denouncing, protesting, and defending against all dehumanizing influences in the world.
Christian scholars such as Augustine, Anselm, Aquinas, and Calvin were advocates of Christian humanism, although they did not call it that. Today, the term Christian humanism is used to describe the viewpoints of writers as varied as Fyodor Dostoevsky, G. K. Chesterton, C. S. Lewis, J. R. R. Tolkien, and Alexander Solzhenitsyn.
Christian humanism is biblical insofar as it holds to the biblical view of man—a responsible moral agent created in God’s image but fallen into sin. Christian humanism becomes less Christian the more it compromises with secular humanism, which promotes humanity to godlike status.
I suspect that much of this is a revelation to you.
I have seen you post that Jesus is not the Son of God nor God himself. So much for the Christian priority over the Humanism you embrace
In your opinion. And in the opinion of others. I do not claim it. I am it as are many others.
not without belief in Jesus as the Son of God
Thanks pal.
I have always found that those who are truly moral and confident of how fair their views are, don’t feel the need to aggressively insist how others who have different beliefs are immoral and inferior.
As I mentioned, I find it more a matter of projection, revealing the flaws of the one claiming others are inferior.
You are incorrect on several counts. I do not believe any religious person wishes to codify their beliefs as law. A sense of morality is essential to just laws and Christians do seek that. And that is not prohibited by the Constitution. European and American law has its roots in Judao Christian morality. We would not be the country we were and are without codifying morality to a degree. The people choosing GLBT behaviors are not inherently immoral. The behaviors are immoral.
The Constitution protects the free exercise of religion for Muslins and Christians and I do not see Muslins unable practice their religion. I do think this country should limit Muslim immigration since it is not in the collective interest of Christian and even atheist Americans to embrace Sharia Law.
And you are likewise incorrect with your last paragraph
Who gets to define “moral” versus not “moral?” Why do you get to arbitrarily decide that?
My own take would be that…any behavior that harms another person in an objective, measurable way…is immoral. All else is moral.
Hi JONDO,
new reply have been posted by the Angela Bridgman on the discussion section you’ve been interested in
https://planetpov.com/2019/12/05/papers-filed-north-carolina-has-first-in-history-openly-trans-candidate-for-state-legislature/#comment-250302
Let me tell you what we DO seek, Jondo, okay? I really do not even know why I engage you, because it is clear your mind is made up, and that we LGBTQ are all demons in your mind. But we aren’t. We’re just people. People wired a little differently than you are. But, like you…we want to work, laugh, play, love and live. We care about the same things you do..or at least most people do. And those things are that I believe most of us have a desire to see a well-educated and healthy public…who can then be self-sufficient and drive economic opportunity that empowers and enriches all of us. You see, in humans, there is a thing called a bell curve. Those who fall under that bell curve, which is arbitrarily defined…are considered “normal” – and those who do not…are not considered normal. But here is the thing…if we all fit under that curve, it would not be a curve, it would be a straight line…and how boring would THAT be? Also, some in society seem to have the idea that what falls outside the bell curve is BAD. It isn’t. It is just different. Now…with all that background…which I sincerely hope you do read…let me tell you what our agenda as LGBTQ people is: We do NOT seek any person’s permission or acceptance of our authentic selves. We do not feel the need to ask your permission, nor will we allow you to determine our validity or our truth. We also do NOT seek to change any of your “sincerely-held beliefs” – religious or otherwise. We are not into being the Thought Police. As I said, we are into being allowed, without unfair extra obstacles and without harassment or other additional impediment…to live, laugh, work, love and play…just like everyone else. So the only thing we seek is the protection of our government to make that a reality. Because of people like you who will not simply live and let live. We seek only to prevent you from acting on those beliefs you hold…IN WAYS THAT CAUSE OBJECTIVE AND MEASURABLE HARM TO US. Because, like you…we have a right to live. I doubt you have read all this,, but I hope that you have…and that you will consider my words. And I, in all sincerity wish you and yours a Merry Christmas, or Happy Hanukkah, or whatever holidays you and yours celebrate at this time. I wish you peace and joy…just as I wish for my entire LGBTQ family…and myself.
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Hi JONDO,
new reply have been posted by the Angela Bridgman on the discussion section you’ve been interested in
https://planetpov.com/2019/12/05/papers-filed-north-carolina-has-first-in-history-openly-trans-candidate-for-state-legislature/#comment-250303
Who gets to define “maral” versus not “moral?” Why do you get to arbitrarily decide that? My own take would be that…any behavior that harms another person in an objective, measurable way…is immoral. All else is moral.
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The first thing you do is jump to accusations. I do not consider you a demon. Secondly you are not wired differently, you have made different choices based on you confusion. You have let that way of thinking and the behavior become ingrained. Maybe that is what you mean by “wired”. But “wired” does not mean born that way. You do not have to overcome your “wiring”. In terms of work , laugh, play and even the desire to serves are common good things. The drive to feel normal about your choices makes you want to “champion” promoting the behavior as normal. If your word “demonic” at all comes into play it is that the choice is spiritually inspired by the bad. This is the crux of fitness for office. The choice is a mental illness. You need to get beyond the illness to better help.
Your use of the bell curve is to pretend normality is just silly. The range of human actions/choices includes the good and the bad and they all fall under that curve and EVERY person can fall into doing the bad or evil. The idea is REPENT the bad.
Here is where you go arrogant. “We do not feel the need to ask your permission, nor will we allow you to determine our validity or our truth.” Please remember that Society controls corrosive behavior if self control is not exercised.
Praying for your mind to exercise self control
If you do not see me as a demon then why do you wish to hurt me and people like me? We are NOT hurting you.
You are the one confused, not me. You see, nobody ASKED me my gender or how I wanted to be treated when I was born…they made an assumption based on visible external features or lack thereof…and then attempted to force me into their ideal of what that meant.
The fact that there are those born anatomically male, but who feel and identify as female, because their brain is “wired” in a female way is proved in science; certain brain structures in male-to-female trans people are more consistent with those same structures in female brains versus male brains…and this is true even before hormone therapy.
The fact that you refuse to accept this reality, or that you cannot conceptualize this as possible…makes you the one confused…not me. Similarly, it does not change my truth of my reality. I do not require your approval, acceptance, permission or validation.
Being trans IS NOT a mental illness, it was de-listed from the DSM as being such, because research proved that it should never have been so classed in the first place.
My being trans in no way harms you…outside of maybe making you a little uncomfortable. Sorry, the Constitution does not give you the right to never be made a little uncomfortable.
YOU trying to make it possible to deny me a job, a home, healthcare…DOES harm me. And as a citizen, I have a right to the protection of law from harm.
Now, it is clear I cannot change your mind…so I ask that you respect me and simply not engage me going forward, because I do not find engagement with you to be worthwhile. You are not willing to countenance any ideas other than your own. So have a nice life.
We are not hurting you by preventing the spread of perverted behavior. If you can avoid the conduct we are helping you repent.
Asking does not change your NATURE. There is no need to ask you anything. Your confusion is not important except to the extent that you do damage to children or others.
Your reference to science is an untruth.
Your paragraph about the DMS is a flat out lie.
No one is denying you a job, a home, healthcare…
Praying for your repentance and mental health.
I am certain Jesus is praying for you too
You are hurting me by attempting to deprive me of employment, housing, and healthcare…all things required for life.
Good day.
Morality and Christianity are two separate things. One can be Christian and moral, one can be Christian and immoral. One does not inherit morality simply because of the religion they claim as theirs.
As for your theory about Christianity being the basis of U.S. laws, once again I direct you to read the Constitution and study history to understand that the Founders intentionally created a constitution that did not rely on religion for its laws, one of the core reasons they wanted a republic and not a religious monarchy like the one they fought a revolution to leave.
Some of the Founders were Atheists so that kind of undermines this assumption as well.
As for US law being based on Christianity, the core morality and laws of Christianity stem from The Ten Commandments. Guess how many of them are actually laws in the U.S.?
Only 2 out of 10 and they are pretty obvious ones that The Ten Commandments really didn’t need to be sourced for:
1. Killing people.
2. Stealing.
I think every society came up with those two pretty easily without the need of cribbing from The 10 Commandments. 8 out of 10 are not laws and they shouldn’t be.
Your prejudice against Muslims has no foundation except your mistaken belief that the U.S. was founded as a Christian country and Christians should prevent those of other religions from having different beliefs.
And BTW, if Christians who display bigotry would truly understand the Constitution and the 1st Amendment prohibiting the establishment of a religion by government, they would know that the same law that prevents them from making laws based on their beliefs prevents those Muslims who believe in Sharia Law from making that the law of the land so there is nothing to fear from them.
And thankfully, unfounded fears and paranoia are not a basis for lawmaking in the U.S.
Your belief that only two Commandments can be related to US Law shows why you so misunderstand Christians. Commandments 1-4 relate to our personal relationship with God not society. #5 honor your father and mother. The moral relationship is ingrained in law until emancipation because the family is the basis of society. Oh and note, man and woman not some mishmash. #7 you shall not commit adultery. Entrenched Until recently but the libs have been pecking away at this. But adultery is still has legal consequences in divorce and the responsibility for children. You did acknowledge #6 and 8. #9 False witness – try lying to law enforcement or a court. #10 you shall not covet. Acting on coveting and taking what is not yours covers a huge range of range of legal consequences.
Do you really believe that all of these simple concepts that all societies adopt, including ones that aren’t Christian, were invented by the Bible?
Respecting others, whether parents or spouses, is not anyone’s invention. It’s common behavior even among animals.
And no, bearing false witness in the Bible just refers to lying which is not against the law. You really think the Bible was referring to perjury in a criminal trial?
No, coveting is not stealing, it is the act of wanting which is not a crime. The 8th Commandment already says, “Don’t steal”. Did they just throw that in a second time to round out the number of commandments to 10?
The irony is that many of those who claim to be very religious seem less informed about their religion than those who aren’t.
The bottom line is that the U.S. is NOT a “Christian Nation”. Most of its laws are not based on the Bible or Christianity. So neither you nor any follower of any religion has justification to declare an official religion for the country that excludes any who have different religious beliefs.
Your “moral” opinions are just simple prejudices. There are many religious Christians who exhibit the love of Christ and love their neighbor no matter how they differ from them.
Christ did not preach prejudice or hostility. I would challenge you to share one single quote from him in the Bible that validates your prejudice against your neighbors.
Well said.
As you know by now Jondo is one of those, shall I say, willful idiots who will not admit they are wrong regardless of the amount of proof presented to him.
I had many encounters with him and he likes his little one line responses thinking they portray him witty, when in fact the show his shallowness and intolerance for any and all things that fail to conform this his belief system.
He sighted work he did, I suspect because he believes that it puts him a notch above those who haven’t perform in his view as a Christian should. But that is nothing more than a version of “showy display” and and attempt to win a place in heaven with supposed good works. But, if Jondo truly believes in the Bible, then it’s what’s in his heart that leads to salvation not the showy display.
There are those who will say that they don’t know what’s in so-n-so’s heart so they won’t judge them, but the words one speaks are a good clue to what is indeed in one’s heart. Jondo’s words and his actions against Angela is a clear enough indication of his feelings for her.
As I said Jondo will continue with his one line comments as it’s his only way of launching any form of cogent discussion. So when I was on Yabberz, I took to blocking him. After all there is only so much dribble one can tolerate when you finally have to just shut it off or else on finds themselves going to Best Buy to replace their monitor. 🙂
Agreed. And I truly wish I could block Jondo on this site…because I am tired of responding to his drivel.
There are countless self-identified Christians, who, having done good works…will say, Lord, Lord…and he will say”Turn away from me for I knew you not” because their hearts are black. Such is the case with Jondo, as evidenced by his behavior towards me.
Angela, he feeds off your replies, so you don’t have to engage with him anymore. If his replies come to your Inbox, delete them. We know what he is and should ignore him. We are all on your side.
Don’t feed the trolls.
twilson117, “willful” is the perfect word to describe someone like this.
Despite that most people point out to him that his arguments and opinions are defective and hateful, he just willfully continues to regurgitate the same hatred and anti-Christian prejudices that demean himself…not his intended victims.
The total lack of self-awareness is amazing to see. Being so clueless about how such flat out wrong behavior disqualifies and humiliates the person doing it.
Why advertise to other people that you are not worthy of being listened to?
Sometimes, such people have and continue to alienate others from them and they’re content to get negative attention because at least it’s better than none.
As for whatever stories he’s told to describe good works he’s done, when someone is frequently dishonest and of bad character, they have no credibility IMO so any claims by an anonymous person are as legit to me as every other untrue and unjustifiable thing he’s said.
The rise of Trump and the fact that around one-third of Americans support him no matter how horrible he is, forced me to accept that there is a large swath of people in this country, and undoubtedly, around the world, who have profound mental issues of one kind or another. This can lead some of them to embrace prejudice and hatred as an emotional shield, to protect them from facing the feelings of fear, insecurity and inadequacy that haunt them.
Most people have family and friends as a baseline of what normal, decent, well-adjusted people are like so what maladjusted folks don’t realize is that it is quite glaring when they display such behavior.
Like bigotry, mental illness is far more rampant in the country than we may have assumed pre-Trump.
All that said…hope you got a great deal on a monitor!
Indeed. And I wonder if Jondo ever underwent higher education. I tried to, but dropped out after a semester, when, five days after Matt Shepard’s murder, I was forced to choose between pursuit of higher education and my own personal safety.
Ending with a quote:
Education is, I think, without value if those who emerge from it are not able to cope with what is outside the comfy and familiar.
-Betty Winston-Baye
Indeed. Read some of John Pavlovitz’s stuff some time. Now THERE is a real Christian. And I love him very much.
He is local here even though he is famous across the country. I have him on speed dial and I have hugged him. He truly is a man of God.
One of our PlanetPOV members spent much of her career as a lobbyist for a Christian organization, one of the largest lobbying groups in California, focused on bettering life for everyone. She lobbied to help the poor, minorities, workers, protect democracy, she is one of the most genuinely compassionate and principled people you’ll ever meet.
As you describe about John Pavlovitz, who PlanetPOV follows on Twitter, there are Christians and people of every other religion who truly embody the love, compassion and goodness of human spirit that is at the core of every meaningful religion.
There will always be those who cynically usurp what a religion has built (or create their own cult) to bring themselves power and wealth and they will prey on those who are emotionally needy or just foolish to build their power base. And those misguided people just repeat the selfishness and hatred poured into their ears, oblivious or uncaring about how their behavior is a betrayal of their avowed religion.
Some eventually recognize the mistake they’ve made but it seems like most never look up to question the strings that have been tied to them to control and manipulate them.
Oh well, it’s been that way for a long time. There will always be “followers” who lack critical thinking skills and can be easily manipulated to say and do what actually only benefits the leaders they follow…often at their own expense.
But at least, they are a minority. Decent people of reason and conscience make up the majority of Americans and, keeping on a religious note, thank God for that.
I hope you are right about decent people being the majority…because if so, Trump will be a one-termer.
Deplorable was not the correct word. DEPRAVED would have been better.
Hi JONDO,
new reply have been posted by the AdLib on the discussion section you’ve been interested in
https://planetpov.com/2019/12/05/papers-filed-north-carolina-has-first-in-history-openly-trans-candidate-for-state-legislature/#comment-250313
Do you really believe that all of these simple concepts that all societies adopt, including ones that aren’t Christian, were invented by the Bible? Respecting others, whether parents or spouses, is not anyone’s invention. It’s common behavior even among animals. And no, bearing false witness in the Bible just refers to lying which is not against the law. You really think the Bible was referring to perjury in a criminal trial? No, coveting is not stealing, it is the act of wanting which is not a crime. The 8th Commandment already says, “Don’t steal”. Did they just throw that in a second time to round out the number of commandments to 10? The irony is that many of those who claim to be very religious seem less informed about their religion than those who aren’t. The bottom line is that the U.S. is NOT a “Christian Nation”. Most of its laws are not based on the Bible or Christianity. So neither you nor any follower of any religion has justification to declare an official religion for the country that excludes any who have different religious beliefs. Your “moral” opinions are just simple prejudices. There are many religious Christians who exhibit the love of Christ and love their neighbor no matter how they differ from them. Christ did not preach prejudice or hostility. I would challenge you to share one single quote from him in the Bible that validates your prejudice against your neighbors.
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Hi JONDO,
new reply have been posted by the AdLib on the discussion section you’ve been interested in
https://planetpov.com/2019/12/06/facing-facts-the-gop-is-a-russian-asset/#comment-250314
Not a very high bar you’re setting there. If that’s the best you can do, okay.
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“Invented by the bible”? God’s Commandments were given to us by God. Regarding the equivalency of humans and animals, animals do not write law. Sorry lying to the police and courts is ILLEGAL. Common lying is not illegal. Where would society be if we could lie legally to the police. Thank a Christian. I said that many of the “actions’ resulting from coveting are illegal. The coveting motive is not the action of theft nor does it just pertain to stealing. Remember the movie Hannibal the serial killer coveted what he first saw. He did not steal he possessed as his action. This is still a Christian Nation despite the efforts of some progressives. Morality is not prejudice. Moreover I am not prejudiced. One is not prejudiced against a behavior.
Don’t mean to upset you, just setting the record straight, Christianity offered nothing new or original to the world in terms of “laws”.
The Sumerians established laws thousands of years before Jesus and Christianity existed, around 2100 BC, laws against murder, stealing and bearing false witness, all the items that you thought Christianity originated.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Ur-Nammu#Surviving_laws
No, this is not a Christian nation, you clearly know very little about world history, the history of legal principles or the history of the founding of the United States.
Though some may emotionally need to believe that a nation that was founded on separation of church and state somehow is a Christian nation, it makes no sense. Neither does painting prejudice as “morality”.
Many self-proclaimed Christians rode with the KKK and lynched innocent black men, women and children in the name of “morality”.
Christ’s teachings were about love and “Love thy neighbor.” Since you wouldn’t answer it in my previous, I challenge you again, quote one sentence from Jesus where he supports the prejudicial “morality” you exhibit in his name.
I know you can’t but if you try, maybe you’ll recognized that prejudice, fear and/or hatred towards those who are different in some way from you is not moral or Christian.
II do not wish to upset you fragile ego but while liberals and progressives may have had a short day in the sun and they may have a few days left Christians have faith that God will deliver his kingdom and his values to the whole world and that Jesus will be King.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/04/05/christians-remain-worlds-largest-religious-group-but-they-are-declining-in-europe/
Currently the Church is being chastised by God for the sins in the Church. But this will only make it stronger. There is also prophesy that a Pope will be assassinated. But fear not.
The powers/nations are being destroyed.
Where are the Sumerians? Long gone.
“Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment.”
Jesus’ last words to the adulteress release her from liability before the impromptu court, but He still judges her for her sin of adultery: “Go and sin no more.”
Being transgender IS NOT A SIN.
And if you will pardon me for saying it…you seems eager and excited for the fall of nations…which will cause great suffering to many people.
How Christian is that…eagerly anticipating the pain and suffering of others?
GLBT is a Sin. The fate of God’s creation is in God’s hands not mine. I do enjoy life and have no desire to cut it short
Your response to learning that Christianity isn’t actually the basis for the U.S. legal system or the founding of the country is to express hope that The Rapture will come soon?
A bit of a curious disconnect, isn’t it?
And to prove something, I’m not sure what, you linked to an article that explains that Christianity is declining in most Western nations.
I don’t think that makes the point you think it does.
You know the funny part, AdLib? Millions upon millions of Christians and so-called Christians believe they will be Raptured. The Bible states 144,000.
Gonna be an awful lot of disappointed peeps. Just sayin’!!
Yep, I guess it’s like playing the lottery for them, before the numbers are called, they’re thinking, “I could be part of the 144,000!”
Then after the numbers are called, they’ll finally concede, “Ah, the odds were so high I was never going to win anyway!”
There are 2.18 billion Christians in the world…and only 144,000 of them are getting raptured? I suppose our friend Jondo thinks he’s going to win a lottery where the odds are 99.9999% against him.
Someone’s in for a big surprise!
Those are the End Times Sealed. Jesus will judge the rest.
I have no fear of his judgement. Man seeth the outside, but the Lord seeth the heart.
Am I perfect? Hell, no and I would not want that burden. But my heart is in the right place…and I have always stood for goodness, kindness, tolerance, justice and mercy.
Can you honestly say you have?
Good luck. People like him will never learn. Because they don’t want to. We simply have to endure them.
Psychology 101 states that most people find it easier to tear down someone else than to build themselves up.
I have had to build myself up. From the ground floor. When I transitioned, I lost everything. And I mean I lost everything. But I gained internal peace.
Over the intervening years, I have had to rebuild myself. And have had to suffer many people trying to tear down what I was painfully and slowly rebuilding.
I have built myself into a woman I am proud to be. And they cannot and will not tear that down. Because I know who I am, and I know what I believe in and what I stand for.
My only wish is that more of my fellow citizens would ACT like they live in the Home Of The Brave. The actions and words of those who stand against me and people like me…are the words and actions of FEAR…not bravery.
You can never be a woman. You can engage is gender fraud
I never could be a man. Attempting to do so…as I did, for the first 23 years of my life…that was the gender fraud.
Yes, those who are intimidated by people who are simply different from them often embrace intolerance out of fear. They can be like children who are afraid of growing up, clutching tighter and tighter onto their simplistic prejudices, especially as they’re exposed because insecurity is as insecurity does…it feeds on itself.
I don’t fully understand why some people feel the need to claim how passionately they believe in a religion while espousing beliefs that contradict what that very religion is all about.
There are many out there who are fearful and disappointing but I also have seen (and know) people who are brave and principled.
I do wish more people would have the courage to be heroes in their own lives and in the lives of others but that doesn’t make me take for granted the many people who do stand strong and won’t back down from doing what’s right.
There may always be a segment of people that espouse prejudice and hide behind religion to claim it’s due to morality but as you say, they are the ones who are weaker because they are slaves to their fears.
As to the need to claim passionately about their belief ion a particular religion…this is because some people absolutely HAVE to be, and publicly…on what they see as “the winning team.”
To them that is more important than what is the just and right team.
This is why Presidential polls are often used by many to determine who they will support. They cannot stand to be not on the winning team.
I support candidates on issues, not on how I perceive their popularity with others.
And the odd part about it is they do not even recognize the cognitive dissonance.
For example…I am a smoker. I know smoking is bad for me. That is cognitive dissonance…but I am at least aware of it and acknowledge it for what it is.
so you recognize Transgenderism as Cognitive Dissonance?
No, I do not. I recognize YOUR cognitive dissonance, because you refuse to acknowledge someone else’s true feelings simply because you can’t understand them.
What are you afraid of, Jondo? The human race is in no danger of extinction. At least not from the LGBT, anyway.
Are you afraid you might be attracted to someone like me? I assure you you have nothing to worry about…it takes two to tango, and no self-respecting trans woman would want anything to do with you.
its just a tactic to try to shift the exchange to the other party
I have been consistently respectful and nice in the face of your stalking and harassment. I will let that record speak for itself.
As you are only repeating yourself I will once again wish you a sincere Merry Christmas and suggest we can let it go at that.
I would have let it go ages ago, but you have to keep responding and spewing hateful and hurtful words at me.
So NOR SIR….YOU DO NOT GET TO JUST WISH ME A MERRY CHRISTMAS…like you are some kind of good guy and let it go.
If you are sincere,, first you will apologize for your hurtful words, and you will acknowledge your behavior of stalking me.
There are about 120 comments on this thread. I’d wager fifty of them are yours, spewing hateful and hurtful words to or about me. Another about 25 are my mostly kind responses in the face of such sheer provocation.
Another 30 of them are from people defending me from your hateful hurtful words and calling you out…including several moderators. And frankly, if YOUR STALKING BEHAVIOR does not violate Terms Of Service here then I am amazed. But you have been shown incredible tolerance, both by staff here and by myself in the face of your onslaught.
The remaining fifteen comments are about the actual topic of the thread. So NO SIR…you do NOT get to “just let it go” and wish me any kind of a Merry Christmas, when you have done your level best to try to destroy any joy in my life…which you will not succeed in doing.
You are not a good person,, you are not a kind person, and frankly, if you are a Christian, acting as you do…treating me as you do…then a lot of people are doing it wrong. I suspect, however, it is YOU who is doing it wrong.
And since I have been,, for the most part, incredibly kind in the face of being stalked and attacked by you, I will wish YOU a Merry Christmas. Because it seems to me you need some joy in your life…you must have none, otherwise you’d stop trying to take the joy out of other people’s lives.
You should seek counseling not office. Then seek to make society better.
Nice. Typical Jondo.