• choicelady : Thank you always for the Music, and a wonderful weekend to you, too! Good night!

  • KillgoreTrout : Thanks CL. I always enjoy our conversations. It’s rare to know someone who “gets it.” I gotta start the music thread, so peace be with you and have a great weekend.

  • choicelady : Amen!

  • KillgoreTrout : I truly believe that sheer greed is a real mental illness, and that is one of our biggest problems in America.

  • choicelady : And with that – it’s past 10 here, past 1 there. Are you ready to call it a night? I’ve totally enjoyed talking with you! We don’t usually get this much time. VERY nice.

  • choicelady : Thank you, KT – that means a lot! I do think gratitude is an important part of loving your life! Enough is, well, enough!

  • KillgoreTrout : CL you are a wise person. So many just don’t see it, or can’t or won’t. That’s why I have such love for the Tao. “The sage stays behind and thus advances.” “Knowing when you have enough, you will always have enough.”

  • choicelady : KT – I think the gutting of the VA is the sorriest story of America, and I’m awfully glad you got help. I know that secular and faith people here want the city to make housing people a priority, but noooo – have to have an arena! It’s a disgrace. We do have a good circle of people that do open churches and other facilities taking up to 400 people per night, but there are 1200 homeless. So we individually do what we can. No excuse for it, frankly. But it’s NOT anyone’s top priority. And then Nevada started dumping its mentally ill here and throughout the country. Despicable. It never ends – those with the most serious needs get the least help. It’s no longer the America we were promised, is it>

  • KillgoreTrout : CL, the homeless face the same desperation that people with mental illness face, and are often one and the same. There is no money to be made by taking proper “Christian,” care of these people. I was fortunate, because I had the VA to turn to, and they helped me immensely. I would be dead now, if it weren’t for the VA. I have to say though, I am one of the lucky ones. At that time, the VA was really helping people. Now, they face immense odds.

  • choicelady : KT – right now at work I’m under the gun and running in place. But I know that in another couple of months it will be better, and I will be damned if I’m going to let the world run ME. I never wanted a job where you had to beat yourself to death for money. And looking back, I do not regret anything I have done because it was led my a zest for living and learning even when it did not pay squat. I’m not rich but am comfortable and I treasure that – it helps as you get older – but I’d not put chasing dollars ahead of any of the really cool things I’ve done. It’s a good life. I’m glad I’m living it!

  • KillgoreTrout : There used to be a great train station in Columbus, but they shut down in 1990 I believe it was. Union Station. right off High Street. in the Short North.

  • KillgoreTrout : CL, I agree. It truly is. people are now are just too much in a big hurry. and it goes beyond just travel. People are becoming almost schizoid in their race against time.

  • choicelady : KT – my folks were married 62 years when my Mom died. She was a terrible person in many ways, but my father loved her. I also hope they found each other. It helped him in the year he lived past her thinking he was going to. I don’t care if it’s true or not – what gets you through the dark night of the soul.

  • KillgoreTrout : CL, my mother, who is 83, wants nothing more than to be with my father who passed in 04. She’s pissed at god. Ihope she gets her wish. They were together for 58 years. I can’t even imagine such a loss.

  • choicelady : KT – I am SO sorry you had to go through that. I’m glad you came through it.

  • choicelady : Oh KT – what a dreadful experience! Sacramento is doing the very best it can for homeless people – it’s such a waste of humanity and because SO many are vets, it’s despicable. There is NO excuse for our abandonment of those who are just down on their luck. Lots of folks hang in the park a block from here, and most are just unemployed, period. Horrid that they can’t be treated decently and housed well. We’re seriously working on changing that.

  • KillgoreTrout : Ohhh!, flip em like burgers. Now that is hot. You are a kind person CL. I wish there were more like you. I’ve been homeless in sweltering heat before, when I first came to Ohio, from Boston. High 90s and very high humidity. Brutal. I surely would never want to go through that again.

  • choicelady : Fairly recently wasn’t there a line that went through Youngstown, Akron, Columbus to Toledo where you could catch the Lakeshore Limited? Something like that. All those towns – no train. Awful.

  • choicelady : KT – the decimation of our rail system is a national scandal.

  • KillgoreTrout : CL, Cleveland is one of the few places in Ohio where Amtrack still goes. I had to take a bus from Cleveland to get to Columbus, because Amtrak no longer stops in Columbus. That’s too bad, because Columbus is literally in the center of the state.

  • choicelady : KT – just catching up here. I agree about the process of dying. It had better NOT be awful or I will send a letter of protest! But I’m not afraid of ‘after’ since I seriously doubt there is any. I think the desire for there to be something is powerful. My atheist father wanted to find my mother – and he’d steadfastly NOT believed in anything. It wasn’t heaven he wanted – it was her. The night he died, I was on the porch grieving, and I thought I heard her speak his name, and felt him grinning in joy. I cannot explain it, and I don’t have to. It’s whatever it was.

  • choicelady : funk – good night! Sweet dreams and good rest.