Vox Populi – 7-20-2012

AdLib : Night, you have a nice weekend too!

SallyT : I guess it better be good night and have a nice weekend.

AdLib : Right, I understand.

SallyT : Oh, I got that from you saying why would a fair minded person think this. I made that from fair to low minded because of the low informed. I combined. You never said it. I did. I never said anyone called anyone dumb. I said it doesn’t mean they are dumb.

AdLib : A Low Info voter is not making any reference to the intelligence of someone, just that they aren’t as engaged and informed.

SallyT : Really, okay, I don’t know why and I don’t care to go back and look. I guess I went with that from low informed.

AdLib : BTW, you created the phrase, “low minded”, no one else used that to describe anyone.

SallyT : I happen to like the boat I am in but I don’t want to punch a whole in my friends boat just because they want to sit on the lake a little longer.

SallyT : That simply means that you were fighting with the person that was in the same boat with you and rowing in the same direction but arguing with me that the guy in the boat next to us was low minded because they hadn’t decided to row yet.

SallyT : That doesn’t me you are right and I am wrong or I am right and you are wrong.

SallyT : My problem is with you. You jumped on it and ran. That is the way you are and I happen to like you so I stuck it out with you.

SallyT : That doesn’t make them low minded. Frustrating, yes.

SallyT : Now they can be frustrating because they don’t see the President as fondly as I do and certainly you do.

SallyT : They are the type of person that looks at as much as possible before forming an opinion.

SallyT : Well, there you have it. The whole thing started with you assuming a lot of things that weren’t even discussed and you don’t know how they have answered.

AdLib : Sally, it’s not my intention to upset you, I was sharing my POV based on what you shared with us about this person. If it’s off base because I don’t know enough about this person, then it is.

SallyT : This is a good friend of mine.

SallyT : AdLib, this is upsetting me. You are assuming a lot about someone you don’t know.

AdLib : Night Sally!

AdLib : With all respect, I think we just have to agree to disagree in this rare case. I do think that someone who is so narrowly looking at Romney, only as to whether he legally used the tax system to avoid paying his fair share of taxes instead of informing himself/herself about all of the destructive things he did to gain that wealth and the way he has used that wealth against the interests of Americans, is under-informed. I recognize you see it differently, just our divergent POVs on this one.

SallyT : It doesn’t really matter. Good night.

SallyT : Yes, we are sure it won’t get changed under Romney.

SallyT : They know that the tax code favors the rich, as we all know. Will it get changed by not voting for Romney, they are not so sure about that.

SallyT : Okay, I said that. The point my friend was making was that if you are opposed to Romney because he is rich don’t vote for him but on his taxes most of this would be expected. That doesn’t say they are in agreement.

AdLib : You said this below: “If you are against him because he is rich, yes, but most of this is expected.”

SallyT : All I said was that they are not low informed! You took off that they are because of this and that. I never said that they were in agreement or disagreement. All that was said was that they have an idea how his taxes would look because he is rich. I never said that they thought that was fair. You jumped on all this on your own. You started arguing with me on things I already knew. I just thought you should know that my friend is not a low informed voter just because they still have questions that they don’t feel they have the answers too yet.

SallyT : AdLib, I never said any such thing!

AdLib : You keep making the argument that people oppose Romney because he is wealthy. That is not what anyone here has said, it has been about how he got wealthy and what he has done with that wealth. Has he supported or undermined America and American jobs with it? That is the qualitative question that the person you’re mentioning seems not to be considering and I do see that as not seeing the whole picture.

AdLib : Sally – You presented the POV of someone that was perceived in a different way by others here than you perceive it. That’s the nature of POVs, sometimes more will agree with you, sometimes not. In this case, I didn’t see this person’s position as well informed and in the middle, as you do. It’s just my POV though.

SallyT : They aren’t sold on Romney. They just don’t think the a rich person taxes is reason alone. Now with more facts, they would see the other reasons. They already know the tax system is wrong and they are for the tax increase. This person likes to see more before saying.

SallyT : No, I’m not. I feel like this was blown out because I just mentioned that I had a friend that hadn’t made up their mind and thought that seeing the tax returns was just going to show how the rich keep from paying taxes. My friend already knows that.

AdLib : Oh?