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  • AdLib : Thanks Tex!

  • texliberal : Have a great 4th

  • AdLib : Night Tex, have a fun 4th!

  • AdLib : Well, looks like a good time to bring this edition of Vox Populi to a close, Thanks to everyone for a riveting and fascinating discussion tonight. Have a great 4th of July all!!!

  • AdLib : Nope but I do have a turducken!

  • texliberal : AL, got any Spam, the BBQ kind?

  • AdLib : Damn, you run out of Vienna Sausages and everyone heads for the door! Night Sue!

  • AdLib : Night Funk!

  • SueInCa : later Cher, I think I am going to shut down and read all this good material. See you all on the flip side tomorrow

  • AdLib : Night Cher and Choicelady! Have a great 4th of July!

  • funksands : I’m off too! Night!

  • Chernynkaya : Jinx, Choice!

  • choicelady : Good night all!

  • choicelady : Well folks, long day, and I’m folding like a cheap suit. Off to dreamland. I wish you all a good night. Sue – I will write tomorrow about maybe getting together this coming week? Too tired to think anymore. I need a keeper like Jerry has…

  • Chernynkaya : Well, now that that’s settled, I can go to sleep easy. And I will bid you all adieu for now! Great conversation, as usual friends.

  • AdLib : CL – I am with you and not discounting the potential for danger Prince and his Dominionist followers represent. There have always been entities and countries that represent severe threats to our nation but in the end, few actions have ever been taken and those that have never resulted well for the perpetrators. Terrorism will happen again but it has all across the world and hasn’t undone major countries in Europe or elsewhere.

  • texliberal : Cher, there are good cops and not so good cops. Unfortunately the bad ones get all of the press.

  • choicelady : funk – LOL!!!!

  • funksands : CL you have an odd notion of “fun”.

  • choicelady : funk – it keeps life from being dull. AdLib – I will follow Cher’s lead. We will prevail, we will NOT be paranoid, we will be optimistic!

  • SueInCa : I CAN SEE i HAVE SOME CATHING UP TO DO

  • Chernynkaya : tex, oddly, as I was at Costco today, the guy in line with me was on his cell. He was saying, “What are you gonna do. He has a gun.” That got my attention, and I don;t know if he was talking to his son or his wife, but he kept saying “Don;t argue with a cop.”

  • funksands : CL, whoa. :-(

  • choicelady : funk – I am VERY familiar with The Force Ministries. I work closely with the Military Religious Freedom Foundation that is trying to STOP this. Those of us allied with MRFF are under siege from them – the Fdn. founder has been shot at, his house spray painted with swastikas, etc. It’s a constant threat.

  • texliberal : Khirad, after 30 years of being a cop NOTHING SURPRISES ME. But generally if ya call a bad asses bluff they fold

  • funksands : Sue, they have a branch in San Diego.

  • SueInCa : thanks funk I have some reading for toniter

  • AdLib : Cher – No worries, just because loons practice and fantasize about something doesn’t mean it will ever happen. And if they even try, they will wish they never did.

  • funksands : I wonder what will happen when Obama tells the Treasury to pay the nation’s bills anyway? I bet Congress sues. Then things get interesting.

  • Khirad : OMG, he was reaching for an actual gun? What an idiot. That’s why I don’t get overly mad at cops for being so touchy about quick movements and keeping space and such.

  • Chernynkaya : AdLib–you talked me down. Thanks!

  • AdLib : Cher – I hear ya. In this atmosphere of radical RW loons, Obama simply can’t stand by and let default and a possible Depression happen on his watch. Let the chips fall where they may, I do not believe for a moment that he will let the GOP destroy the nation and just sit on his hands. There are lots of weirdos out there, we do need to know that to be able to be cautious but we can’t allow the fact that they exist to frighten us.

  • funksands : No doubt Tex. Glad that situation ended the way it did.

  • texliberal : Khirad. it was a 9mm Glock. Think he had a death wish

  • funksands : CL / Sue, you should check out one of the worst of the worst, the FORCE ministries. «link» Good times.

  • choicelady : tex – that is a wonderful story, and thank you for keeping the ROT folks at bay. Here they have taken over one county – they know all personal details about every LEO, and they terrorize them. They have already shown they will harm public officials, and everyone’s scared of them. Everyone.

  • Khirad : Ha! Right, reaching for something underneath a towel is always a great way to make friends with a cop.

  • Chernynkaya : Funk, yeah, exactly. But what gets me is that the banksters and the Chamber have not reigned them in yet. Maybe these guys are really demagogues and serious idiots. I think they are.

  • texliberal : Funk, when I was a Dallas cop I stopped one of those Republic of Texas loons. He was dressed in fatigues and told me he needed no DL and then started to reach underneath a towel on the front seat. A .357 SW magnum in his ear convinced him of the error of his ways. That’s all you can do with them BELIEVE ME.

  • choicelady : AdLib – I agree about NOT being paranoid, but they have a qualitatively larger force now. It’s not Rambo wannabes anymore – it’s Eric Prince and Gen. Jerry Boykin. Whole different ballgame. I can ignore the Huttaree to some extent. I cannot ignore these guys and whoever else is in Galt and the remaining encampments. This is SERIOUS stuff.

  • funksands : Cher, everyone knows the best way to maintain good credit is to loudly and publicly muse about not paying your creditors.

  • AdLib : Sue – Your series on the Dominionists and CL’s posts are valuable items here at The Planet! It is critical to know as much as we can about these people and their agenda. And keep in mind, Obama’s Admin stated publicly that domestic terrorism on the right is the biggest threat to America. I do think they are keeping tabs on these lunatics and with their Patriot Act powers, they’ve disrupted Al Qaeda attempts, I think they’d do the same with an org like the Dominionists.

  • funksands : Ha!

  • Khirad : Read it on a beer bottle once. ;-)

  • Chernynkaya : Also, I just want to note that I personally NEVER expected to see the things I have seen from the right and the mnedia in the past two years. Ten years ago, so much of what has happened–the policies of the corporate and religious Right–would have seemed laughable.

  • funksands : I didn’t know that Khirad. Thanks.

  • Khirad : Yes, and Imperial IPAs are called such as they were shipped to Russia and had to keep until then. Same with India. Thus the extra hops. I love a good IPA once in a while.

  • choicelady : AdLib – I REALLY hope you’re correct. AND I really hope it never happens. Round up the extremists BEFORE they kill!

  • SueInCa : gotta go take the little doggie for a quick breather, you know what I mean

  • choicelady : funk – I’m for the New New Deal too – and yeah, if it’s digging holes to fill them up again, so what. Obama is starting to say that government IS the stimulus to the private sector. Every state that cut spending is hurting. Every one that increased spending AND taxes is doing well. Government jump starts the private economic activity. Always has. Always will.