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  • Buddy McCue : Bachmann? Elvis or Johnny Cash? Such a softball question but she still can’t answer. She says…. both.

  • Buddy McCue : Pawlenty is supporting a Federal Law that enforces a Right-To-Work kind of structure for the States. He admitted that he was a former Union worker from a family of Union workers. And yet he willfully describes the Right-To-Work status as a measure that prevents workers from being FORCED to join a union. Surely he knows he’s lying.

  • Buddy McCue : Right in the middle of my saying something nice about her, Ms. Bachmann just characterized the Tea Party as being former Democrats, Independents as well as former Republicans. She just said that the Tea Party is comprised of people from a “wide swath” of people from different parts of the political spectrum. Does ANYBODY actually believe what she is saying?

  • Buddy McCue : If I HAD to say something nice, I would say that Michelle Bachmann’s hair looks very nice tonight.

  • Buddy McCue : Watching the debate: Herman Cain just said that the economy should have more focus on the engine, not the caboose. I agree with him metaphorically, but I disagree with him about what part of society is the engine. He said it is “job creators,” but I know that it is the worker that creates wealth and it is the consumer that drives demand.

  • AdLib : Sounds good! Take care!

  • Abbyrose86 : Good night adlib…next week I am off from everything…so I think I will be able to make it! See you next week! :)

  • AdLib : Looks like it’s that time to wrap tonight’s edition of Vox Populi. Abby, great to see you here tonight, sorry it was brief but maybe you can make it next week? Have a great weekend!

  • Abbyrose86 : Dang…I wish I could have gotten here sooner! my schedule has been so crazy lately! It’s still nice to pop in though! :)

  • ChrisR266 : Evening to you, AdLib.

  • ChrisR266 : Hang in there, Abby. I’ll be watching for you.

  • Abbyrose86 : Chris…so glad i got to talk to you…even if only for a few minutes….good night! :)

  • AdLib : Nice seeing you Chris! Have a wonderful weekend!

  • Abbyrose86 : Chris…as for the leaks and house work…not yet…it’s on the agenda for August….just no time, and money is still tight. :)

  • ChrisR266 : Well, I must depart, friends. Thanks for the good conversation and mental exercise. Always enlightening and refreshing. Until next week.

  • AdLib : Palin and the Baggers really are a resurrection of the Know Nothings. Dumb is cool.

  • ChrisR266 : Bwaaaahahaha!

  • Abbyrose86 : or a heart, or soul

  • AdLib : Google used to run around the site and I warned it to stop, it’s going to knock a lamp over, it kept doing it so I broke its legs and now all it can do is crawl.

  • ChrisR266 : AdLib: ha! This latest debacle was truly amazing. The woman doesn’t have a brain.

  • Abbyrose86 : no doubt adlib! Seriously, that woman is such a dolt!

  • Abbyrose86 : No doubt about SP…there is NO way she is doing all that herself.

  • ChrisR266 : I always feel so creeped when I read that google is crawling around here…

  • AdLib : How can someone who thinks Paul Revere rode to warn the British…be on top of all this other stuff. No way.

  • Abbyrose86 : I need ALL of your help…it’s because of the good people I’ve met on line that I am actually doing it…you all inspired me so!

  • ChrisR266 : Abby: Sarah P isn’t playing on those things. She has minions doing that for her. That’s why she always has that deer in the headlights look when someone asks her about them.

  • AdLib : Abby – I don’t believe Palin does all that herself, she’s got a whole operation run by aides and assistants.

  • Abbyrose86 : Adlib…Thank you…I will…it’s on the agenda…serious ly…

  • Abbyrose86 : I seriously wonder how Sarah P can play on twitter, FB and her other shenanigans…un less she really isn’t doing anything…there just is NO time, when running for office and living life, working, etc

  • ChrisR266 : Abby: Busy is good. Did you get your leaks fixed?

  • AdLib : Abby – That’s great news! Please don’t hesitate to post something here that lets people know where they could donate to your PAC/candidacy if they’re interested. I’d like to!

  • Abbyrose86 : I’m a busy lady!

  • Abbyrose86 : Hi Chris! I’ve really missed it here….It’s been a crazy month, so far! Between the death of my friend, my running for office, work and life…

  • AdLib : I think there’s maybe up to 40% of the nation that is intimidated by smart candidates…who have to dumb themselves down to get their support. The GOP demonizes smarts because they can’t win on that playing field, not because there aren’t smart Repubs but the only tools that work for them to win is emotion and especially fear. So, don’t think, that’s a bad thing, vote your feelings and you’ll vote for us Repubs.

  • ChrisR266 : Hey Abbyrose, good to hear from you and I’m so glad to hear you are tackling this. Yea!

  • Abbyrose86 : Hi Funk!

  • Abbyrose86 : It’s been busy Ad lib…my goodness…runni ng for office, is NOT as easy as it looks! I just got my ‘formal’ candidate pictures taken and I am working on my PAC…THAT is a bitch….by the way…it’s official…I got the Working Families Endorsement…an d they were ‘impressed with me” The UAW will be giving me a donation!

  • ChrisR266 : And, Although people didn’t know this about Obama at the time, they did know that HRC and Dean are two scary smart people. Really truly smart. Really truly smart scares the living chit out of 3/4 of Americans. And, the GOP cultivates that suspicion of smart to really horrible ends.

  • AdLib : No doubt, Obama couldn’t have won in any other year, IMO. George W. Bush got Obama elected and Hillary’s misguided support for the Iraq war did too. Without those two elements, I don’t think it could have happened. Which is why I say, Dean too could have gotten elected as the anti-war, populist candidate.

  • ChrisR266 : AdLib: You got me thinking about this Dean and HRC thing. Honestly, if things hadn’t sucked so bad in 2008, I’m not sure anyone would have beaten McCain. Things were sooooo bad, people voted on a prayer.

  • AdLib : There are some areas where I may not want change but if something is terrible, like our current standard of living, economy and prospects for the future, I’m ready for big changes. Then there are those folks who really would rather live a more dismal life then be shaken out of a routine. I don’t get that at all.

  • AdLib : Chris – I don’t think it’s cynical. It’s the same reason there are multimillion dollar industries like the diet industry. People believe in change, they want change, they’ll even take steps towards change but really changing…that ‘s a whole other thing.

  • ChrisR266 : LOL try “rock” it. ;-)

  • ChrisR266 : Have a great time, Tex. Rick it!

  • funksands : Another 50+ degree day here. F-ing sucks.

  • AdLib : Night Tex, sounds like a fun but demanding day ahead of you, Rest well and have a great time!

  • invient : good bye tex

  • ChrisR266 : AdLib: Yeah, that’s there, and guess what? People don’t change! They are who they are, and the cries of “but I’ve changed” are only acknowledgments that they recognize exactly what the looking glass self is telling them is true. How’s that for a cynical snipe?

  • funksands : Good luck Tex. Go MAVS!!

  • texliberal : Goodnight all. It’s Six-Flags with my grandchildren and several of their friends tomorrow and it’s supposed to be 100 in the shade in Big-D. PRAY FOR ME.

  • AdLib : Chris – Had Dean run in 2008 instead of Obama, I think he could have beat Hillary and won the presidency.

  • AdLib : What’s up Abby? How are things going with your candidacy?

  • AdLib : Chris – There’s also the psychology of yearning for someone you have bad feelings about to turn around and make you feel good about them. The desire for that weight to be lifted and some folks will go deep into denial to try and get there. They want their enemy to stop hating them or vice versa.

  • ChrisR266 : AdLib: I felt bad for Dean then, but he didn’t really have a shot at becoming POTUS. He is so much better in a position where he can use his mind and really command strategy and tactics.

  • funksands : No one has served as DNC Chair for more than 4 years since the 60’s. It must have a built-in expiration date of one or two election cycles?

  • ChrisR266 : Ah, Rahm. He was so right about THAT, LOL.

  • funksands : Hi Abby!

  • Abbyrose86 : Hey everyone! Long time no involvement on my end…how is everyone?

  • texliberal : Rahm was a weener. Can’t stand that guy

  • AdLib : Dean could have gotten elected in 2004 but the MSM had it out for him and he played it too safe when he was ahead. The former though (killing his candidacy because of a yell???) was the real reason.

  • funksands : Geez Ad, sorry I didn’t see your post.

  • ChrisR266 : AdLib: Thanks for understanding what I’m saying. People who understand this innately human characteristic have abused it to horrific ends before, and as we have seen since 2001, are totally willing to play it for all they can wring out of it. It’s the total disregard for any good but self interest that I cannot abide.

  • funksands : Rahm hated Dean and thought his 50 state strategy was a loser.

  • texliberal : Chris we need someone to keep the blue dogs in line. They’ve been more destructive than the cons

  • AdLib : Whoops, meant to say Rahm is old school DLC, corporate Dem, friend of the wealthy first.

  • ChrisR266 : Tex: I think DWS will be ok, but Dean is what Keirsey would call a mastermind. Brilliant strategist. He’s a behind the curtain “Wizard of Oz” type. That’s what the party needs.

  • AdLib : Dean was kicked out of the DNC because the head of the party, Obama, as the new pres, made the call, Rahm despised Dean because Rahm is old school DNC and opposed Dean’s 50 state strategy…which led to Obama winning. Even so, Rahm took all the credit and wanted Dean out.

  • texliberal : funk, you’re probably right

  • funksands : DWS is great. Florida, woman, good fundraiser, cancer survivor, attitude.

  • AdLib : Chris – Another excellent point. People don’t want to believe that evil people are really evil. They want their desire of everyone deep down being a good person who wants to help them and others to be the case. Consider McCain and Newt, each have undeserved reps, McCain as a war hero who just crashed 5 planes and got captured the last time and Newt is a supposed intellectual who we’ve only seen spout ridiculous racist BS. Yet, people bought into McCain as a “maverick” instead of the opportunist flip-flopper he is.

  • funksands : Tex, I think he’s burned too many bridges.

  • texliberal : funk, AdLib, anyway we can get Dean back.

  • ChrisR266 : Is it a term limit or something? Why did Dean stop as DNC chair? He was freakin awesome.

  • funksands : Tex, absolutely. Kaine always struck me as a featherweight.

  • AdLib : Tex – Absolutely. Kaine made Michael Steele look good.