Here’s a fresh life sign from
“Secrets From Beyond The Emerald Curtain”
– An investigation into the Huffington Post and its founder –
In the meantime, again excellent people have joined and escribacat has supplied more extremely valuable links. Buddy McCue painted for the title a picture that reminds of “The Wizard of Oz”, depicting Arianna at the controls, not realizing that the real power lies with Dorothy, that is with us. So yes, this is going to be pretty interesting!
Now unfortunately jdmn17, who was supposed to write Part 1, has disappeared weeks ago and simply can’t be traced. Since he is such a reliable person I realized too late that for some reason he really couldn’t be here and I could also not fill in for him since I had too many other assignments this week. I do hope all is well with him.
However, thus the start of the series is going to be delayed for another 2 weeks and will start on April 1st instead. Moreover it will be published on Fridays, not Saturdays, so people could notice the article while roaming about between the Friday Music Thread and Vox populi.
Evidently, due to the circumstances I urgently need someone who writes Part 1. There are still other vacancies, which I hope get filled now. In spite of me somehow ending up with the reigns in my hands this project was intended as a collaborative project, and if nobody comes forward to cover them, we may have to drop several chapters.
Probably the restriction to about 950 words may have been somewhat too strict and I guess I didn’t point out earlier that in case of much material you could also split your contribution into two chapters. Yet these are just guidelines (in order to prevent all too epic chapters), but if the reality of your article proves to be otherwise, that’s fine too.
The chapters below are still subject to change, since we have a lot of new material which I’d like to accommodate (but have no time to do so until earliest next week), and as I’ve said, since I’m not sure if someone is covering the existing ones, other chapters may be dropped.
Planned contents of each episode (as of now):
- Experiences of an average user and how he felt the changes at HP over time (Person sought to cover Part 1)
- Zero tolerance policy for critique at AH. Moderation, pending, deletions, censoring, banning. How does HP deal with user complaints about that? How does HP deal with unwanted opinions? (Covered by foxisms)
- How Huffington Post manipulates their headlines (Covered by foxisms)
- Misleading headlines and their effect on users. (Covered by SueInCA)
- Misleading headlines and their impact on President Obama’s reputation and the resulting eroding of support from the Left. (Covered by escribacat)
- Misleading headlines and their impact on the Democratic Party. Nearly no coverage of protests by the Left (while the place got swamped by tea-party and celebrity coverage) (person sought to research and write this)
- Summary of chapters 3 – 5: How progressive is Huffington Post? Who declared AH the “Queen of the progressives?” (person(s) sought to summarize, probably best one or more of those who worked on Nos. 3 – 5)
- Vast discrepancy between the headlines and AH’s behavior: Are her words and deeds matching? How is the record of her deeds in comparison to those of the President? Can she hold a candle to him? (Covered by Truth)
- Introduction of AH’s shady cult, main theories, accounts of former members (brainwashing, belittling, life threats etc.) (Covered by Truth)
- What is the influence of AH’s shady cult on the HP? Is she still a member, is she in contact with the leader of the cult? It seems that her sister is heavily involved and that at least until 2008 HP employees were sent there for “training” (or rather brainwashing.) (Covered by Truth)
- AOL: a) short information about their business philosophy, their political affiliation and their business practices b) First hand experiences of former members (Covered by Pocket Watch)
- a) The following, plus exact legal background: “There is one fact about corporations that must be recognized. Corporations have no responsibility to the society they exploit for their revenues, they have only one legal obligation…to make as much money as possible. Shareholders can in fact successfully sue those running a corporation if such decision makers ever chose to be socially responsible at the expense of generating the most profit.” (Entire quote from AdLib) b) Is there anything that can be done about that? (This one can’t be dropped!!! Who is going to write this???)
- Summary of the findings of our investigation, conclusions and introducing further steps that we are going to take (Covered by Truth and contributors, commenter’s input is going to be included)
Thus chapters 1, 6, 7 and 12 still need to be covered. Especially No 12 is a very important one, for it makes clear that people who run a corporation can be sued for acting ethically if they do so at the expense of making a win. And blindly holding utter selfishness (or pure material interests) over doing what is right is simply one of the basic problems in any society. I wished someone with knowledge on the legal background of this issue would come forward to cover this!
It is still understood that every episode is sent for review latest one week before the publishing date to 2emeraldcurtain@gmail.com
Now I hope we can pull this project off – together, that is! Best wishes, Truth
This was posted on Current a few minutes ago:
0 PoliticalAmazon
There’s no question that HP isn’t “lefty”–and hadn’t been for quite awhile.
1. But here’s a more interesting question….Is Arianna still a Prophet for John-Rogers MSIA Cult?
Once Arianna divorced Michael Huffington, she quickly started moving away from MSIA. She does this personality white-wash every so often, but the one with MSIA is perhaps even more important than the one she did afterwards–when she went from Gingrich’s darling to rightwing basher.
Follow the money….
http://articles.latimes.com/1994-11-01/news/mn-57257_1_arianna-huffington
“COLUMN ONE : Tracking the Mystical Traveler : The church founded by John-Roger has sparked controversy over some of its teachings, now-defunct gala awards and a peace retreat near Santa Barbara. Now it is in the news because of Arianna Huffington”.
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2. Here’s an interesting project (see the image with this post)
It’s an INVITATION TO A COLLABORATION on a series about Arianna and HP!
http://planetpov.com/2011/02/26/invite-for-collaboration-part-3/
“…is going to be the title of the planned series, whose goal is to reveal to a broader public some of our more unpleasant experiences at HP, to expose the extensive manipulation on different levels that’s going on behind the scenes there and how it may be related to Arianna Huffington’s cult, the MSIA, which also goes by the veil “Insight” seminar. Further we plan to lay bare the hidden agenda of Ms Huffington wherever we are able to pin it down and back up with facts. And, most importantly, we want to draw a fair amount of attention to Huffington Post’s striking lack of progressive credentials.”
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Very interesting. Truth–did you post that?
No, and I don’t know who either – it just “happened”
That’s called “buzzzzz!!!” Hehe.
Thanks, jkk – thanks to e’cat who alerted me I came to know about your post here! And I got your mail, I shall reply there.
Truth- her sock is Political Amazon- she has been on Current for some time..
It got quite a bit of positive feedback! Here’s the link, might be able to grab something from it.. sorry, I didn’t post it before.
http://current.com/news/93122780_arianna-the-huffington-post-is-not-a-lefty-publication-anymore.htm#93123887
jkk, this paragraph really gets me;
“I’m just telling you that it is very clear that we have progressive views, but to call everything we’re doing lefty — it misses the whole point that American policy needs to be redefined beyond left and right,” she reportedly said. “It’s a completely obsolete view of politics.”
Who is she trying to kid? This country has always been left and right. The term “post-partisan,” cracks me up. There is no such thing in America. And “beyond left and right.” These terms are simply used to get a person to capitulate to one side or the other.
I think it would be fantastic if all the American people could get together to fight the many ills in our government, but that is just a pipe dream.
I think when Ariana uses a term such as post- partisan, she is simply trying to cover up her shift to the right, after the AOL purchase of her site.
KT Someone somewhere- (and I don’t think it was here,) said she changed when she went to a conference- or something, with Newt Gingrich- (and I vaguely remember something about that- does anyone else recall it?
I remember seeing the pics)
Does that timeline mesh with anyone?
Anyway- I can’t imagine why she would because of him..
Truth, does any of this ring a bell with you?
No, I know only the pic from Gawker where she met Gingrich and wife while on holiday, apparently “unintentionally”
Damn- I wish I could find that post- it seemed like it was someone who was acquainted with her history- (unlike me!)
He said, that if you follow her from that time to now; you could almost clock the reversal..
Hey, Truth!
When I edit my posts on WordPress, they provide additional content about whatever topic is in my post on a sidebar. These showed up. You probably have seen most of these, but anyway, these are for you!
http://heloise8.wordpress.com/2011/03/22/breitbart-still-gay-still-air-kissing-arianna-at-huffpo/
Huffington Post Continues To Soften Its ‘Liberal Soundtrack’ By Hiring Libertarian Contributor
http://www.mediaite.com/online/huffington-post-continues-to-soften-liberal-soundtrack-by-hiring-libertarian-contributor/
Did Arianna Huffington Steal the Idea for the Huffington Post?
http://gawker.com/#!5690851/did-arianna-huffington-steal-the-idea-for-the-huffington-post
Comments on Arianna Huffington’s AOL Announcement
http://blog.gregpoirier.com/2011/02/07/arianna-huffington-when-huffpost-met-aol-a-merger-of-visions/
HuffPost Ends Its Liberal Soundtrack, Publishes Andrew Breitbart Essay Defending NPR Sting
http://www.mediaite.com/online/huffpost-ends-its-liberal-soundtrack-publishes-andrew-breitbart-essay-defending-npr-sting/
Blogs about: Huffington Post
http://en.wordpress.com/tag/huffington-post/
Thank you Cher, I haven’t even noticed these yet! You and e’cat are supplying so much excellent info, great and thanks!!!
Truth—I pulled these from the Daily Planet for your project. I hope they fit in.
HuffPost Hires Libertarian
http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/culture-media-issues/66180-huffpost-hires-libertarian.html
Newspaper Guild Calls for Boycott of Huffington Post
http://www.democracynow.org/2011/3/21/headlines#15
Thanks, Cher. It’s never ending with AH……. there is also a facebook page about her and the actions against her. It is quite interesting and I didn’t need to become a member, thankfully.
I’m sure you noticed this one too, I think Marion had posted it earlier and it is one of the most revealing statements of AH:
http://www.thewrap.com/media/column-post/arianna-huffington-go-ahead-go-strike-no-one-will-notice-25230
Truth, I know similar things have been written about Arianna already, but it’s always good to see more. I found this today:
“Opportunist Arianna Huffington Reverts to True Colors”
http://www.politicalruminations.com/2011/03/opportunist-arianna-huffington-reverts-to-true-colors.html
Someone linked to it on Twitter. Hehe!
Cher, thanks for alerting me, you’re right, the fact that she hired Breitbart deserves quite a bit more of attention. And I didn’t know about Hamsher, whom I despised from the beginning. Now I know exactly why:
Like Huffington, Hamsher has also teamed up with a much despised Right Wing ideologue, Grover Norquist, and like Huffington, she has spent much of the first two years of the Obama presidency on various television shows, as well as on her website, shrieking about how President Obama is just not ever good enough. All that shrieking, as well as the blatant encouragement by Hamsher’s drones to sit out the election, contributed much to our huge losses in November 2010.
I guess she needs to be included in the research of AH’s and maybe the cult’s political agenda. (Yikes, they make me so sick)
Grover Norquist is president of taxpayer advocacy group Americans for Tax Reform. Norquist is a member of the board of directors of the National Rifle Association,[9] the American Conservative Union,[2] as well as the Advisory Council of GOProud,[10] in addition to being the co-founder of the Islamic Free Market Institute.
Niiiice company, Hamsher! Yikes!
Something that shouldn’t be overlooked ( but might be, because we had to learn to overlook it to stay sane ( or pretend we were ) when we were there )– is just what an absolute freakshow the whole thing of 9 out of 10 articles being in some way on religion, about how religion and science are finding common ground with respect to the topic at hand, etc. etc. I mean, that was / is just absolutely flipping BIZARRE for what is supposedly a major news site. Or does that go under the “ cult ” topic?
That and the divorce section. And the other 1 out of 10 articles being about Arianna. Oh, never mind . . .
For America, I didn’t really notice that earlier when I was on Huff, because I read mostly about politics. But it would certainly be very interesting, and yes, this points towards the cult. Redemption Song has also pointed out how un-scientific the science articles really are! Yet she felt she has not enough time to cover this, but would provide about 10 – 12 headlines if somebody writes the article. In case you would like to add a chapter on these subjects, you’re more than welcome.
Sorry for the delay in my reply, (as you know, since yours got stuck too) the article got posted way later than I thought and then I had no more time to reply.
Truth and FAR, I posted an article here ages ago about a science website I found that had huge issues with HP’s “quackery” in the “science” section. Here’s a link to my article.
http://planetpov.com/2010/01/03/its-not-the-just-politics/
Thanks, escribacat, I’m forwarding it to Redemption Song in the hopes she catches the bait…
Hello, I looked at that and also the Rashomon series, which was rather hair-raising. It’s sort of like the feeling of leaving a cult – anger that that garbage affected my life for the time that it did.
You remarked on changes in their coverage of the President ; I wonder if there’s a correlation with poll numbers – I noticed late last year / early this year they dropped the insulting depictions for awhile after his poll numbers went up and the productive lame duck session, then started them again about as soon as the glow was over.
For America, it’s interesting that you say it’s like leaving a cult, for I plan on making a parallel between the censoring, the misleading headlines, the riling up and the cult. Not sure yet how, but I will find a way sifting through all the material that I have now.
I don’t know about the poll numbers however. I feel she worked actively on bringing them down before President Obama even entered the Oval Office for the first time. And sometimes the numbers may just be too good to discredit him – after all sales must go on.
The big news for now is that AH hired Breitbart, as well as coming to know (through nicole473, who has her own website to which Cher has alerted me) that another so called progressive, Jane Hamsher, who threw a good amount of mud onto the President works together with the much despised right wing ideologue Grover Norquist. I wonder what their agenda may be? Progressive change? Anybody actually believes that?
I’ve found Robert Jay Lifton’s Thought Reform criteria to be useful, and they can be generalised – it’s pretty easy to see how they apply to Glenn Beck, for example. I’m not sure how they would fit HP, but you might find something – I can already see how their slantings could loosely be “ Loading the Language ”, and the whole cockeyed world of the site a sort of “ Sacred Science ”. In retrospect, it is definitely a strangely closed and often reality-free place – which strongly suggests to me that the cult idea can’t be too far off.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought_Reform_and_the_Psychology_of_Totalism
Lifton is one of my favorites, though I’ve only read The Nazi doctors and Hiroshima in America ; the latter is in some respects one of the best books I’ve ever read.
FAR — I don’t know if the incendiary headlines at Huffy affected the poll numbers, but I am absolutely certain they affected the tenor of the discussion at Huffy. Gradually, leftist attacks against Obama took on the same tone of hatred and demonization as the attacks from the right. In some cases, even worse. Nowadays, in many cases, one can hardly tell the difference between the attacks from the two fringes. Lefties call him a liar and a “colluding criminal.” Righties call him a socialist or communist. I’d say that in many cases, the attacks from the right are kinder and more gentle. I don’t think this all came exclusively from the HP headlines but at least on Huffy, a lot of it did. In the same way that an unfettered Fox News has brought the entire nation to the right on the spectrum, the Huffy community was “outraged” into attack mode against the president.
e’cat, it is your Roshomon series that brought to light that Drudge and other rw outlets are friendlier towards President Obama than Huff Post. The fact that this is like this is rather telling!!!
Well, I did come up with the phrase “ left baggers ” . . 🙂
My most recent HP phase was just in the past year, but I definitely did see things that were quite disturbing – at times, such as during what I call the Affaire Sherrod Breitbart-Progressive Coalition Blame Obama Bandwagon, it was a real nightmare world for days on end. And the recurring orgies of “ Bush III ” are, yes, every bit as reality-free as
“ Kenyan Socialist Manchurian
Candidate ”. It was clear to me that there was something very wrong about it.
Although I wasn’t nearly as clued in at the time, I am glad I made a point of not reading her book. 🙂
For America, thanks for introducing Lifton to me, this will come in very handy. There was also a further link where his thoughts are examined in context with religious cults. Muchas gracias!!!
For America, left baggers (or baggers of the left) is very accurate. Someone called them green tea baggers of the left, I loved that expression…. as sad as the development really is though.
Feel free to use this – I came across a thumbnail in my Safari browser recently which is one particularly sickening memory –
this Sam Stein story was the lead :
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/14/obamas-budget-2012-president-vs-life-story_n_823152.html
– and there was a positive story on the budget posted by Sam Stein on the same day.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/14/plouffe-obama-social-security-benefits_n_823247.html
It could not have been more obvious that an agenda was being filled.
I was going to start screen-capturing all of the obviously racist incidences of unflattering photos of the President, unfortunately ( or fortunately for my mental health ) I never got anywhere on that.
For America, I tried my best to read them, but I couldn’t bring myself to go much further than clicking on the links. Just starting to read there brought back the nauseous feeling I had the last few months when I was there.
Escribacat has created an interesting series called “The Roshomon” where the headlines of several news outlets are compared. As a result we now know Huffington Post is far worse than Drudge report. But it would be very telling to add some pictures either to that or to post them separately, (Yet to be fair they often chose the most unflattering pictures for Palin too.)
I hesitate to bring up HP posters by name here, but it might be nice if Rich Misty could address #12. Am I trippin’?
Chase, I don’t know if Rich Misty has expertise in this field, and I think he also wants to continue to post on HuffPost, for whatever reasons. Moreover I was hoping AdLib could take on that chapter…. (yet he seems to be too busy to do so).
O.K., I gotta admit. A couple of days ago I got a new name at HuffPo{spit} and decided to just casually go in and type the thoughts I usually type but in no way give an indication that it was me. I wanted to see if it was my ideas that were popular or just me.
First of all,I can’t believe the comments that just disappear now. I checked out Breitbart’s pathetic columns and the comments were just one insult after another. And rightfully so. But that place is weird, man. After being here for a while it’s like going to an alien planet.
And people HATE me. I managed to pull in 6 fans so far but if they had an enemies total next to it, it’d be much much higher. Some of it I didn’t even get, though. I kept getting replies about me and Rush Limbaugh and having tea with Michelle Bachmann. All I did was disagree with their ideas not their objectives.
The first moment someone told me I was absolutely wrong when we were only debating opinion, I had to leave for awhile. My original response would have never made it post moderation. Still some cool people there but most of them seem so paranoid about everything. BillLoney appears to have established his own doomsday cult.
Just a weird place. I’ll probably wait a few days to go back. This nuclear plant thing has them all at each other’s throats.
Adonai–I think I saw you there and was wondering if it was you. What’s your moniker there? We could cause some trouble. I love trouble.
GOD Hates Us All.
And I am way ahead of you 🙂
Adonai–When are you not? We shouldn’t feel guilty about playing at the HP {spit}. It can be fast moving, rip roaring fun. Then I come here for some thoughtful sanity.
Oh darlin, count me in! Trouble, Mmmmmm, bone to a god—for the right cause of course.