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KQµårk 死神
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OK I’ve being a little disingenuous to make a point.

Probably in 100 years I would not vote for a Republican unless I get Alzheimer’s but I think it’s important to stress what 2010 and 2012 will look like if Obama does not pass his signature issue. I know we have our disagreements on how to get there, but we must get there. Nine months of Obama’s presidency would have been spinning his wheels if healthcare does not pass. Not passing healthcare is simply not an option and makes the future that much worse for Dems and most importantly for us. Every other big issue is predicated on the success of healthcare as well because if it is not passed there will never be enough support to pass other meaningful pieces of legislation.

escribacat
Member

Well, I am relieved to hear that. I was wondering if you had been taken over by a pod person when you said you’d vote for Mitt Romney!

I agree. If they don’t pass HCR, their whole platform crumbles. It’s not an option and Nancy Pelosi and other house members must realize that.

KQµårk 死神
Member

This is my favorite semi-recent protest band “Rage Against the Machine – Wake Up”

FlyingLotus
Member

It’s all about the ying yangie thing a ma jangie with me.

So, I have to counter all that rage with..

KQµårk 死神
Member

To throw out another hypothetical how many Repubs in the Senate right now would vote for the Senate bill maybe with a few changes if McCain was president Rather than Obama?

FlyingLotus
Member

I think that hypothetical is moot, as there wouldn’t be a bill if McCrash was prez.

KQµårk 死神
Member

😆 yes this is in one of those crazy “what if Napoleon had a B-52” what ifs for sure.

escribacat
Member

If McCain were president I doubt there would be any discussion of HCR at all. Bush never mentioned it to my knowledge. It was Obama who put it on the front burner.

Kalima
Admin

None, he’d have them all gathered in the Men’s Room singing “Bomb, bomb Iran.”

boomer1949
Member

KQ-
All of them. Why? Because McCain isn’t African-American.
These guys are against anything, and I mean anything proposed by this administration. And, if the truth be known, 99.9% of them agree with policy, but would never, ever step up to the plate. Why? Because their constituents would “seek & destroy” their careers.

Amazing how none of these guys (WHITE guys) only have balls when they are paid for them. Ouch. Isn’t that Prostitution? And all they ever do is throw the women in jail.

KQµårk 死神
Member

In this case even if Hillary was president and she would have won too. The Repubs would have used the same tactic. They take pleasure in doing it more with an African American in charge.

FlyingLotus
Member

Kalima, you’re talking to a first rate snorter.

Hi, my name is FlyingLotus and I snort when I laugh.

Kalima
Admin

😆 Don’t go, stay here and just make me laugh. We will have to exchange tapes to see who’s the loudest but my sister and I are two of the worst, a whole cinema full of people gave us the evil eye once or twice and it wasn’t even a comedy.

Kalima
Admin

Hi my name is Kalima, I snort when I laugh and talk to myself in the mirror.

FlyingLotus
Member

I’ve advanced wayyyy beyond mirrors.Intersections work for me.The busier the better I say to get my crazy on!

Kalima
Admin

Best of luck with that, I sway from left to right when I walk, a middle ear problem, I’d be mowed down in a second.

The woman in the mirror seems friendly enough, I’ll stay home where it’s safe.

FlyingLotus
Member

Trust me, you made the “saner” choice.

Kalima
Admin

Well, one of these days I’ll have to share what she says to me, I’m not so sure about the “saner.”

Tiger99
Guest

Hows bout some Steppenwolf…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN281IPHFzw

Once the religious, the hunted and weary
Chasing the promise of freedom and hope
Came to this country to build a new vision
Far from the reaches of kingdom and pope
Like good Christians, some would burn the witches
Later some got slaves to gather riches

But still from near and far to seek America
They came by thousands to court the wild
And she just patiently smiled and bore a child
To be their spirit and guiding light

And once the ties with the crown had been broken
Westward in saddle and wagon it went
And ’til the railroad linked ocean to ocean
Many the lives which had come to an end
While we bullied, stole and bought our a homeland
We began the slaughter of the red man

But still from near and far to seek America
They came by thousands to court the wild
And she just patiently smiled and bore a child
To be their spirit and guiding light

The blue and grey they stomped it
They kicked it just like a dog
And when the war over
They stuffed it just like a hog

And though the past has it’s share of injustice
Kind was the spirit in many a way
But it’s protectors and friends have been sleeping
Now it’s a monster and will not obey

(Suicide)
The spirit was freedom and justice
And it’s keepers seem generous and kind
It’s leaders were supposed to serve the country
But now they won’t pay it no mind
‘Cause the people grew fat and got lazy
And now their vote is a meaningless joke
They babble about law and order
But it’s all just an echo of what they’ve been told
Yeah, there’s a monster on the loose
It’s got our heads into a noose
And it just sits there watchin’

Our cities have turned into jungles
And corruption is stranglin’ the land
The police force is watching the people
And the people just can’t understand
We don’t know how to mind our own business
‘Cause the whole worlds got to be just like us
Now we are fighting a war over there
No matter who’s the winner
We can’t pay the cost
‘Cause there’s a monster on the loose
It’s got our heads into a noose
And it just sits there watching

(America)
America where are you now?
Don’t you care about your sons and daughters?
Don’t you know we need you now
We can’t fight alone against the monster

FlyingLotus
Member

I’m a child of the sixties.Reading the lyrics makes me think not much has changed really.

Tiger99
Guest

They sure seem to apply today don’t they…

boomer1949
Member

Flying Lotus,

Me too. And, to a degree, I must admit I’m right there with you.

Khirad
Member

Not much has changed. The view from Slovenia, ’cause I know that’s what everyone wonders, ‘how do Slovenians think of us?’ (chose this over a few German bands, actually)

So the Land of the Free
and the Home of the Brave
Are your stars still so bright
Does your banner still wave
Oh, the Land of the Free
and the Home of the Brave
Are you heaven on Earth
or the gloom of the grave

You
The people of the United States
Did you form a perfect union
Establish justice
Ensure tranquility
Secure the blessings of Liberty
to yourselves and your posterity
How blind can you get
for your country
right or wrong

America
The melting pot

So the Land of the Free
and the Home of the Brave
Are your stars still so bright
Does your banner still wave
Oh, the Land of the Free
and the Home of the Brave
Are you heaven on Earth
or the gloom of the grave

[preacher sample]

Praise the Lord
and Praise the Holy Spirit
to save us from your
Freedom, Justice, Peace
Accordance and Illusion
from Arrogance and Pride
from Violence and Confusion
your Great Despair
and Great Depression
Satanic verses
of your superstition
the Land of Plenty…

Your Bill of Rights
the Enterprise
the Free Will (or Wheel?)
and the Unbroken One (Wand?)
your Self-Esteem
and Self-Desire
your Trust in God
and in Religious Fire

America

The end of History
The end of Time
The end of Family
The end of Crime

KQµårk 死神
Member

Wow the last part is rough. One of Eastern Europe’s biggest problem is there xenophobic movement. There are more skin heads in Russia the the rest of the world for example. Poland is almost unbelievable. I watch a documentary series “Gangland” and the Easter European gangs are the worst.

FlyingLotus
Member

Artists, generally speaking, in any country are leftyists.

I think people bestow an almost mythical perspective on America.

Maybe I’ll blog on that topic, after the Bordeaux is long finished.

KQµårk 死神
Member

I worked with European companies half my career and talked with many Europeans. The look at America as a huge enigma filled with contradictions. In some ways we do great things like the way we respond to crises around the world and are the first western country to elect a non-Caucasian but on the other hand we still can be racist and xenophobic and very right leaning especially our military intervention.

FlyingLotus
Member

KQ, life, individuals, et all is, are full of contradictions.

Few, very few are not subject to that trait.

KQµårk 死神
Member

True.

The biggest things Europeans don’t understand is why we make it so tough on ourselves. Why we put up with the hours we work, not taking enough vacation time and most of all why we are obsessed without having government help people. It could be our diverse population because since Europe has opened immigration I started hearing them start complaining about the state helping people more.

Tiger99
Guest

Yeah it’s always all our fault… Now we gonna get blamed for the end of it all too…

Heh Heh Heh

FlyingLotus
Member

I may have to call it a night soon.

The SCOTUS decision made me, well, in a word disgusted.

Made me think of this..

Khirad
Member

I love dark Arabic strings. Always give me the chills. I identified at least 4-5 elements in that blend.

FlyingLotus
Member

Me too.I’m a HUGE fan of middle eastern music.

I LOVE the morning call to prayer!And I’m in no way religious but it transports me.

FlyingLotus
Member

Not morning, just the call to prayer thingie.

Khirad
Member

The adhan is great, and I can sit back and relax to Qur’an recitation CD’s. It’s probably best I don’t understand it, but absolutely it transports you. It’s enchanting and so visceral.

I have a lot of music that samples it:

FlyingLotus
Member

Wow!I wasn’t expecting that.

escribacat
Member

It must be getting late. It looks like that woman is sitting in a giant diaphragm.

FlyingLotus
Member

LMAO..Snort..ROFL..Snort!!

boomer1949
Member

I had to look again E’cat, but you’re absolutely correct. What a hoot! Not you, but the diaphragm.

boomer1949
Member

So, I tried this before and will try this again. No political chat importance, not a continuation o VP, just an extension of the Merlot and the fact it is 12:35 am EST (and waaaay past the amount of information my brain is able to handle in a 24 hour period of time). 🙂 Night all…and what a difference 10+ years makes…for each of us:

Tina Arena First 1996
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP39gyE58qg

Tina Arena 2009 (this one is similar to Austin City Limits and/or
the MTV Unplugged

Khirad
Member

Just a continuation of the merlot… priceless! 😆

boomer1949
Member

Nah, I had to pay for it, but it is payday and it is Friday, and (okay Saturday), and I can get up whenever I want or at least until the cats have waited long enough for what they perceive to be breakfast.

Khirad
Member

Maybe a little hair of the dog, while you give the cats “breakfast”?