OK I’ve being a little disingenuous to make a point.
Probably in 100 years I would not vote for a Republican unless I get Alzheimer’s but I think it’s important to stress what 2010 and 2012 will look like if Obama does not pass his signature issue. I know we have our disagreements on how to get there, but we must get there. Nine months of Obama’s presidency would have been spinning his wheels if healthcare does not pass. Not passing healthcare is simply not an option and makes the future that much worse for Dems and most importantly for us. Every other big issue is predicated on the success of healthcare as well because if it is not passed there will never be enough support to pass other meaningful pieces of legislation.
To throw out another hypothetical how many Repubs in the Senate right now would vote for the Senate bill maybe with a few changes if McCain was president Rather than Obama?
If McCain were president I doubt there would be any discussion of HCR at all. Bush never mentioned it to my knowledge. It was Obama who put it on the front burner.
KQ-
All of them. Why? Because McCain isn’t African-American.
These guys are against anything, and I mean anything proposed by this administration. And, if the truth be known, 99.9% of them agree with policy, but would never, ever step up to the plate. Why? Because their constituents would “seek & destroy” their careers.
Amazing how none of these guys (WHITE guys) only have balls when they are paid for them. Ouch. Isn’t that Prostitution? And all they ever do is throw the women in jail.
In this case even if Hillary was president and she would have won too. The Repubs would have used the same tactic. They take pleasure in doing it more with an African American in charge.
😆 Don’t go, stay here and just make me laugh. We will have to exchange tapes to see who’s the loudest but my sister and I are two of the worst, a whole cinema full of people gave us the evil eye once or twice and it wasn’t even a comedy.
Once the religious, the hunted and weary
Chasing the promise of freedom and hope
Came to this country to build a new vision
Far from the reaches of kingdom and pope
Like good Christians, some would burn the witches
Later some got slaves to gather riches
But still from near and far to seek America
They came by thousands to court the wild
And she just patiently smiled and bore a child
To be their spirit and guiding light
And once the ties with the crown had been broken
Westward in saddle and wagon it went
And ’til the railroad linked ocean to ocean
Many the lives which had come to an end
While we bullied, stole and bought our a homeland
We began the slaughter of the red man
But still from near and far to seek America
They came by thousands to court the wild
And she just patiently smiled and bore a child
To be their spirit and guiding light
The blue and grey they stomped it
They kicked it just like a dog
And when the war over
They stuffed it just like a hog
And though the past has it’s share of injustice
Kind was the spirit in many a way
But it’s protectors and friends have been sleeping
Now it’s a monster and will not obey
(Suicide)
The spirit was freedom and justice
And it’s keepers seem generous and kind
It’s leaders were supposed to serve the country
But now they won’t pay it no mind
‘Cause the people grew fat and got lazy
And now their vote is a meaningless joke
They babble about law and order
But it’s all just an echo of what they’ve been told
Yeah, there’s a monster on the loose
It’s got our heads into a noose
And it just sits there watchin’
Our cities have turned into jungles
And corruption is stranglin’ the land
The police force is watching the people
And the people just can’t understand
We don’t know how to mind our own business
‘Cause the whole worlds got to be just like us
Now we are fighting a war over there
No matter who’s the winner
We can’t pay the cost
‘Cause there’s a monster on the loose
It’s got our heads into a noose
And it just sits there watching
(America)
America where are you now?
Don’t you care about your sons and daughters?
Don’t you know we need you now
We can’t fight alone against the monster
Nice pick! You know, after they originally broke up, there were many separate and simultaneous incarnations of Steppenwolf? Really amazing story and history.
Not much has changed. The view from Slovenia, ’cause I know that’s what everyone wonders, ‘how do Slovenians think of us?’ (chose this over a few German bands, actually)
So the Land of the Free
and the Home of the Brave
Are your stars still so bright
Does your banner still wave
Oh, the Land of the Free
and the Home of the Brave
Are you heaven on Earth
or the gloom of the grave
You
The people of the United States
Did you form a perfect union
Establish justice
Ensure tranquility
Secure the blessings of Liberty
to yourselves and your posterity
How blind can you get
for your country
right or wrong
America
The melting pot
So the Land of the Free
and the Home of the Brave
Are your stars still so bright
Does your banner still wave
Oh, the Land of the Free
and the Home of the Brave
Are you heaven on Earth
or the gloom of the grave
[preacher sample]
Praise the Lord
and Praise the Holy Spirit
to save us from your
Freedom, Justice, Peace
Accordance and Illusion
from Arrogance and Pride
from Violence and Confusion
your Great Despair
and Great Depression
Satanic verses
of your superstition
the Land of Plenty…
Your Bill of Rights
the Enterprise
the Free Will (or Wheel?)
and the Unbroken One (Wand?)
your Self-Esteem
and Self-Desire
your Trust in God
and in Religious Fire
America
The end of History
The end of Time
The end of Family
The end of Crime
Wow the last part is rough. One of Eastern Europe’s biggest problem is there xenophobic movement. There are more skin heads in Russia the the rest of the world for example. Poland is almost unbelievable. I watch a documentary series “Gangland” and the Easter European gangs are the worst.
I worked with European companies half my career and talked with many Europeans. The look at America as a huge enigma filled with contradictions. In some ways we do great things like the way we respond to crises around the world and are the first western country to elect a non-Caucasian but on the other hand we still can be racist and xenophobic and very right leaning especially our military intervention.
The biggest things Europeans don’t understand is why we make it so tough on ourselves. Why we put up with the hours we work, not taking enough vacation time and most of all why we are obsessed without having government help people. It could be our diverse population because since Europe has opened immigration I started hearing them start complaining about the state helping people more.
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The adhan is great, and I can sit back and relax to Qur’an recitation CD’s. It’s probably best I don’t understand it, but absolutely it transports you. It’s enchanting and so visceral.
I mentioned this in Vox Populi and just wanted to share with folks who missed it, I received an email from an editor at the Crossville Chronicle in TN who asked if he could run “Corporations Are People Too!” in their paper.
It’s our first pickup from a paper so a big thanks to John Wund for his interest and sharing a piece of The Planet with other “pinkos” in TN!
WooHoo, bow, bow,applause…and you’ll let all of us know when it goes print right? See? There are others who get it besides all the Perfect Planeteer family (we just have to say we like you) 🙂 Mr. Wund is an objective POV…go figure 🙂
Uh, huh…tell ’em how much you pay me just to say “we have to like you.” Do you know what time it is here? Jeeze you’re keeping me up way past my jammies, it’s time to go to sleep time.
Just pretend…just for a nano-second…you’re functioning three, let me repeat, three hours, past your current time. Duh!
Of course you are much younger than I and don’t require a Snuggie to watch television or fall asleep.
You bet! It’s a very cool acknowledgment for all of us and The Planet. We’re growing and reaching more people and folks here will know now that what they write here could end up in a paper or magazine out there.
Quite a cool threshold to pass for our 6 month old Planet.
I’m not sure, I think he was scouring the web for research because he did say he was writing an editorial about the SCOTUS ruling and the post must’ve popped up.
That’s even cooler, finding us through a Google search.
So, I tried this before and will try this again. No political chat importance, not a continuation o VP, just an extension of the Merlot and the fact it is 12:35 am EST (and waaaay past the amount of information my brain is able to handle in a 24 hour period of time). 🙂 Night all…and what a difference 10+ years makes…for each of us:
Nah, I had to pay for it, but it is payday and it is Friday, and (okay Saturday), and I can get up whenever I want or at least until the cats have waited long enough for what they perceive to be breakfast.
haven’t done that in years…of course it will be 5:00 pm somewhere. Maybe I’ll just pretend I’m meeting Kalima & WhatThatSound for Happy Hour in Tokyo, eh?
LOL! I’m already getting too old for that myself! Ah the days when I could go out clubbing and get hammered and still go to work on three hours sleep the next day…
Hope you enjoyed this evening’s edition of Vox Populi! The chat continues here!
OK I’ve being a little disingenuous to make a point.
Probably in 100 years I would not vote for a Republican unless I get Alzheimer’s but I think it’s important to stress what 2010 and 2012 will look like if Obama does not pass his signature issue. I know we have our disagreements on how to get there, but we must get there. Nine months of Obama’s presidency would have been spinning his wheels if healthcare does not pass. Not passing healthcare is simply not an option and makes the future that much worse for Dems and most importantly for us. Every other big issue is predicated on the success of healthcare as well because if it is not passed there will never be enough support to pass other meaningful pieces of legislation.
Here, here!
Well, I am relieved to hear that. I was wondering if you had been taken over by a pod person when you said you’d vote for Mitt Romney!
I agree. If they don’t pass HCR, their whole platform crumbles. It’s not an option and Nancy Pelosi and other house members must realize that.
This is my favorite semi-recent protest band “Rage Against the Machine – Wake Up”
Love this song!
It’s all about the ying yangie thing a ma jangie with me.
So, I have to counter all that rage with..
To throw out another hypothetical how many Repubs in the Senate right now would vote for the Senate bill maybe with a few changes if McCain was president Rather than Obama?
I think that hypothetical is moot, as there wouldn’t be a bill if McCrash was prez.
😆 yes this is in one of those crazy “what if Napoleon had a B-52” what ifs for sure.
If McCain were president I doubt there would be any discussion of HCR at all. Bush never mentioned it to my knowledge. It was Obama who put it on the front burner.
None, he’d have them all gathered in the Men’s Room singing “Bomb, bomb Iran.”
KQ-
All of them. Why? Because McCain isn’t African-American.
These guys are against anything, and I mean anything proposed by this administration. And, if the truth be known, 99.9% of them agree with policy, but would never, ever step up to the plate. Why? Because their constituents would “seek & destroy” their careers.
Amazing how none of these guys (WHITE guys) only have balls when they are paid for them. Ouch. Isn’t that Prostitution? And all they ever do is throw the women in jail.
In this case even if Hillary was president and she would have won too. The Repubs would have used the same tactic. They take pleasure in doing it more with an African American in charge.
Kalima, you’re talking to a first rate snorter.
Hi, my name is FlyingLotus and I snort when I laugh.
😆 Don’t go, stay here and just make me laugh. We will have to exchange tapes to see who’s the loudest but my sister and I are two of the worst, a whole cinema full of people gave us the evil eye once or twice and it wasn’t even a comedy.
Like this?
http://home.mindspring.com/~samrc/sounds/rofl.wav
How about this snorting laugh?
If I were that bad, I’d still be single. 😆
I went to rehab at Promises, it’s under control..SNORT..
Hi my name is Kalima, I snort when I laugh and talk to myself in the mirror.
I’ve advanced wayyyy beyond mirrors.Intersections work for me.The busier the better I say to get my crazy on!
Best of luck with that, I sway from left to right when I walk, a middle ear problem, I’d be mowed down in a second.
The woman in the mirror seems friendly enough, I’ll stay home where it’s safe.
Trust me, you made the “saner” choice.
Well, one of these days I’ll have to share what she says to me, I’m not so sure about the “saner.”
Hows bout some Steppenwolf…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN281IPHFzw
Once the religious, the hunted and weary
Chasing the promise of freedom and hope
Came to this country to build a new vision
Far from the reaches of kingdom and pope
Like good Christians, some would burn the witches
Later some got slaves to gather riches
But still from near and far to seek America
They came by thousands to court the wild
And she just patiently smiled and bore a child
To be their spirit and guiding light
And once the ties with the crown had been broken
Westward in saddle and wagon it went
And ’til the railroad linked ocean to ocean
Many the lives which had come to an end
While we bullied, stole and bought our a homeland
We began the slaughter of the red man
But still from near and far to seek America
They came by thousands to court the wild
And she just patiently smiled and bore a child
To be their spirit and guiding light
The blue and grey they stomped it
They kicked it just like a dog
And when the war over
They stuffed it just like a hog
And though the past has it’s share of injustice
Kind was the spirit in many a way
But it’s protectors and friends have been sleeping
Now it’s a monster and will not obey
(Suicide)
The spirit was freedom and justice
And it’s keepers seem generous and kind
It’s leaders were supposed to serve the country
But now they won’t pay it no mind
‘Cause the people grew fat and got lazy
And now their vote is a meaningless joke
They babble about law and order
But it’s all just an echo of what they’ve been told
Yeah, there’s a monster on the loose
It’s got our heads into a noose
And it just sits there watchin’
Our cities have turned into jungles
And corruption is stranglin’ the land
The police force is watching the people
And the people just can’t understand
We don’t know how to mind our own business
‘Cause the whole worlds got to be just like us
Now we are fighting a war over there
No matter who’s the winner
We can’t pay the cost
‘Cause there’s a monster on the loose
It’s got our heads into a noose
And it just sits there watching
(America)
America where are you now?
Don’t you care about your sons and daughters?
Don’t you know we need you now
We can’t fight alone against the monster
Nice pick! You know, after they originally broke up, there were many separate and simultaneous incarnations of Steppenwolf? Really amazing story and history.
And its namesake is one of my all time favorite books and authors.
yep managed to see the original just before the break up in an old army shirt and trenchcoat…
I’m a child of the sixties.Reading the lyrics makes me think not much has changed really.
They sure seem to apply today don’t they…
Flying Lotus,
Me too. And, to a degree, I must admit I’m right there with you.
Not much has changed. The view from Slovenia, ’cause I know that’s what everyone wonders, ‘how do Slovenians think of us?’ (chose this over a few German bands, actually)
So the Land of the Free
and the Home of the Brave
Are your stars still so bright
Does your banner still wave
Oh, the Land of the Free
and the Home of the Brave
Are you heaven on Earth
or the gloom of the grave
You
The people of the United States
Did you form a perfect union
Establish justice
Ensure tranquility
Secure the blessings of Liberty
to yourselves and your posterity
How blind can you get
for your country
right or wrong
America
The melting pot
So the Land of the Free
and the Home of the Brave
Are your stars still so bright
Does your banner still wave
Oh, the Land of the Free
and the Home of the Brave
Are you heaven on Earth
or the gloom of the grave
[preacher sample]
Praise the Lord
and Praise the Holy Spirit
to save us from your
Freedom, Justice, Peace
Accordance and Illusion
from Arrogance and Pride
from Violence and Confusion
your Great Despair
and Great Depression
Satanic verses
of your superstition
the Land of Plenty…
Your Bill of Rights
the Enterprise
the Free Will (or Wheel?)
and the Unbroken One (Wand?)
your Self-Esteem
and Self-Desire
your Trust in God
and in Religious Fire
America
The end of History
The end of Time
The end of Family
The end of Crime
Wow the last part is rough. One of Eastern Europe’s biggest problem is there xenophobic movement. There are more skin heads in Russia the the rest of the world for example. Poland is almost unbelievable. I watch a documentary series “Gangland” and the Easter European gangs are the worst.
Artists, generally speaking, in any country are leftyists.
I think people bestow an almost mythical perspective on America.
Maybe I’ll blog on that topic, after the Bordeaux is long finished.
I worked with European companies half my career and talked with many Europeans. The look at America as a huge enigma filled with contradictions. In some ways we do great things like the way we respond to crises around the world and are the first western country to elect a non-Caucasian but on the other hand we still can be racist and xenophobic and very right leaning especially our military intervention.
KQ, life, individuals, et all is, are full of contradictions.
Few, very few are not subject to that trait.
True.
The biggest things Europeans don’t understand is why we make it so tough on ourselves. Why we put up with the hours we work, not taking enough vacation time and most of all why we are obsessed without having government help people. It could be our diverse population because since Europe has opened immigration I started hearing them start complaining about the state helping people more.
Yeah it’s always all our fault… Now we gonna get blamed for the end of it all too…
Heh Heh Heh
I may have to call it a night soon.
The SCOTUS decision made me, well, in a word disgusted.
Made me think of this..
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Fancy, ain’t it?
LOL!I might have to start paying tuition when I venture here.
But then you can charge newbies an arm and a leg to clue them in!
How do you think I can afford this gold plated keyboard?
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I love dark Arabic strings. Always give me the chills. I identified at least 4-5 elements in that blend.
Me too.I’m a HUGE fan of middle eastern music.
I LOVE the morning call to prayer!And I’m in no way religious but it transports me.
Not morning, just the call to prayer thingie.
The adhan is great, and I can sit back and relax to Qur’an recitation CD’s. It’s probably best I don’t understand it, but absolutely it transports you. It’s enchanting and so visceral.
I have a lot of music that samples it:
Wow!I wasn’t expecting that.
It must be getting late. It looks like that woman is sitting in a giant diaphragm.
LMAO..Snort..ROFL..Snort!!
I had to look again E’cat, but you’re absolutely correct. What a hoot! Not you, but the diaphragm.
Heh!!!
I mentioned this in Vox Populi and just wanted to share with folks who missed it, I received an email from an editor at the Crossville Chronicle in TN who asked if he could run “Corporations Are People Too!” in their paper.
It’s our first pickup from a paper so a big thanks to John Wund for his interest and sharing a piece of The Planet with other “pinkos” in TN!
Awesome.
Just the beginning, my friend! Take your props too, fellow founder!
Fanfreakingtastic!
I’m jazzed! The Planet’s orbit is expanding!
Suh-weet!!! Will they add the url?
Yes, my only request for giving permission to any other outlet is to credit the author and the full URL for The Planet.
Otherwise, I’m happy and thrilled to have our work here shared with the rest of The Planet.
Be sure to be around modding after publishing. Could get hairy. I don’t need to tell you that, though!
WooHoo, bow, bow,applause…and you’ll let all of us know when it goes print right? See? There are others who get it besides all the Perfect Planeteer family (we just have to say we like you) 🙂 Mr. Wund is an objective POV…go figure 🙂
You are such a sweetie! Thanks, can’t stop smiling!
Uh, huh…tell ’em how much you pay me just to say “we have to like you.” Do you know what time it is here? Jeeze you’re keeping me up way past my jammies, it’s time to go to sleep time.
Just pretend…just for a nano-second…you’re functioning three, let me repeat, three hours, past your current time. Duh!
Of course you are much younger than I and don’t require a Snuggie to watch television or fall asleep.
First of all, the check’s in the mail.
Second of all, this site is actually powered by insomnia…so we have our reasons.
Third of all, I gave up sleep for a handful of “magic” beans that turned out to be stale Jelly Bellys.
Forth of all, I accidentally bought a Snuggie for my television and now it just cuddles up and watches me all night.
Ah, you were duped by the “magic” bean theory. Unless you’re a little kid, “magic” beans don’t work and neither does faierie dust or magic wands.
So smartie, my Snuggie is pink, how ’bout yours?
Whoopie! jolly good show and absolutely fabulous to boot. Hip Hip Hurrah!!
And a Three Cheers to you too, Ms. Co-Founder!
Aww shucks Boss, now you’ve gone and made me blush like a virgin. 😳
Great News AdLib!!! Congrats…
Love it! Thanks so much!
That’s fantastic!!
Can I mention it in my collaborative writing post?
You bet! It’s a very cool acknowledgment for all of us and The Planet. We’re growing and reaching more people and folks here will know now that what they write here could end up in a paper or magazine out there.
Quite a cool threshold to pass for our 6 month old Planet.
How did this happen? Did we mail it out? Did someone happen to see it here?
Never mind — I see your answer to ecat above. That’s amazing!
Hey, that is excellent, Adlib. I wonder how he got hooked into it.
I’m not sure, I think he was scouring the web for research because he did say he was writing an editorial about the SCOTUS ruling and the post must’ve popped up.
That’s even cooler, finding us through a Google search.
That’s even more awesome.
So, I tried this before and will try this again. No political chat importance, not a continuation o VP, just an extension of the Merlot and the fact it is 12:35 am EST (and waaaay past the amount of information my brain is able to handle in a 24 hour period of time). 🙂 Night all…and what a difference 10+ years makes…for each of us:
Tina Arena First 1996
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP39gyE58qg
Tina Arena 2009 (this one is similar to Austin City Limits and/or
the MTV Unplugged
Just a continuation of the merlot… priceless! 😆
Nah, I had to pay for it, but it is payday and it is Friday, and (okay Saturday), and I can get up whenever I want or at least until the cats have waited long enough for what they perceive to be breakfast.
Maybe a little hair of the dog, while you give the cats “breakfast”?
oh khirad,
haven’t done that in years…of course it will be 5:00 pm somewhere. Maybe I’ll just pretend I’m meeting Kalima & WhatThatSound for Happy Hour in Tokyo, eh?
LOL! I’m already getting too old for that myself! Ah the days when I could go out clubbing and get hammered and still go to work on three hours sleep the next day…
Year ago, I could go to sleep at 4 am, get up and be at work by 7am, have bacon, eggs, coffee, & juice feel 1,000% and turn around and do it again.
Jezze — part of me feels the same — yet it takes longer to recover. I guess that’s the key. The longer it takes to recover, the older you are. 🙂