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bito On January - 15 - 2010

During the day, do you read a story and you feel it is worth sharing?  Where to place it? I don’t like to disrupt someone’s thread or thoughtful post and it is not worthy of posting a lengthy article, do you?  Let’s try to leave this up in speakers corner and we can share some news!

From the Afghan  Women’s Writing Project

Colorful Days after Black Nights”

I remember the Taliban were searching houses ten times a day with different groups to find a book, cassette, picture, TV, or video game. If they found any of these, they shot the whole family. After we returned home, my mom burned books that my older sister and brother had collected over many years. She burned most of the books in our mud-brick oven, then threw the rest away in sacks very far from the house so the Taliban would not know they were ours. My heart was broken and I was at a loss……

I wove carpets for four years and forgot everything about studying or getting an education. We were stuck at home, and never allowed to go outside. When the Taliban were removed from power in Afghanistan after almost five years, most of the schools eventually reopened. My siblings returned to school, but I did not, because I was so afraid of everyone, still thinking that Taliban were close.


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Was once a handsome frog until kissed by an ugly corporate princess.----- Like a well honed knife, the internet can be a wonderful and useful tool. It can be used to prepare and serve a delicious meal or it can be used to cause harm. peace

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  1. Khirad says:

    Anyone see this on SNL? If you hadn’t I could hardly blame you. It just so happens I’m a Mad Men fan, so I did. Scott Brown parody:


    • Chernynkaya says:

      OK, that made me really laugh out loud!. And I am a Mad Men fanatic. Love love John Hammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!

      But Something about it bothered me. I am such a partisan, that I didn’t even like that Brown was portrayed by my favorite Mad Man!

  2. Kalima says:

    A rather sad but defiant story about the life of a Chinese activist. I must say he has a lot of guts wanting to go back to a country which could throw him in jail the minute his feet touch Chinese soil. I wish him luck.


  3. Kalima says:

    Just found this and was wondering if this was something really worrying the Dems right now because they really can’t afford to lose another seat in the Senate.


  4. Khirad says:

    Washington state may again stir up midterm mania:

    WASHINGTON -- In 1994, Washington state was ground zero for a Republican revolution that gave the GOP control of Congress for a dozen years.

    The state’s congressional delegation went from 8-1 Democratic to 7-2 Republican, and among those who lost was Democratic Rep. Tom Foley, the first sitting speaker of the House of Representatives to lose his seat since the Civil War.


    So, it wasn’t just my family and I or fellow Washingtonian Dems, it really was that bad. We had a proto-Michele Bachman/Jean Schmidt win our district in a write-in. It was devastating. And boneheaded for Spokane to vote out Foley for Nethercutt -- who benefited the state as speaker. Nethercutt ran on term limits. Guess what happened when it came time to honor that promise?

  5. AuntieChrist says:

    Just stopped by to say hi and share this…

    I almost choked when I saw it.

    The Brits must still be laughing their asses off after Charlie Brooker filed this report. I have no doubt that it’s his warning for his own country to not fall the way of America’s fourth estate… In that ours is history.

    Well done, Charlie.


  6. escribacat says:

    Okay, let the spit wads fly: am I the only liberal around who doesn’t like Michael Moore? I loved Roger and Me but when I saw Fahrenheit 911, it came off to me like blatant propaganda — which was entirely unnecessary. I recall an idyllic scene of two Iraqi kids flying their kites (implying that life was a bed of roses under Saddam, which it wasn’t) — and then the invasion. I don’t remember the exact details but I remember shaking my head and thinking Moore could have made a strong case against Bush without going so far over the top.

    Don’t get me wrong — I was against the invasion of Iraq but I don’t have illusions about Saddam and his two psychotic sons being “good guys” and making a good life for the Iraqi people. I got so turned off by that scene that I didn’t bother seeing any of Moore’s subsequent films.

    • whatsthatsound says:

      I dig MM! He’s flawed, as a filmmaker, no doubt about that. He’s highly selective in the information he provides and how he presents it. He’s a propagandist. But remember that the Founding Fathers painted George III as if he were some child eating ogre from a Grimm Fairy Tale. The solution is in educating ourselves, not accepting anyone’s pov as gospel.

    • AdLib says:

      Hey Escrib! No spitwads, just a different POV.

      Moore has huge flaws, he is egotistical, he is a provocateur, he can be manipulative in his films and infringe on a fair or wholly honest representation of things for entertainment and political sake.

      However, his point, though exaggerated because it’s not balanced with the oppression Saddam simultaneously inflicted, is very valid, IMO. Kids did swing safely on swings, people did get married safely in public places before we destroyed Iraq’s stability.

      As oppressive and terrible as life in Iraq could be, there was also a normalcy that was destroyed by the invasion and bombing and war the U.S. brought to Iraq.

      Over 3 million people were driven out of the nation, over 1 million people were killed in one way or another. There was ethnic cleansing, the looting of all kinds of businesses, museums, armories and government, the lack of electricity, potable water and food, I could go on and on.

      And in the aftermath of all that, I think you would be hard pressed to find any kids happily and safely swinging on swings (considering most had relatives or friends who were killed…kids couldn’t be as carefree as they were).

      Life in Iraq did include political persecution and tyrannical rule. But it also included the most Westernized society where girls and women could go to school and didn’t have to conform to brutal religious laws.

      Iraq was a complicated place that did have such dichotomies as people being hauled away and tortured to death and middle class families living okay lives.

      My take on Moore’s usage of that admittedly “black and white” segment, is that it was manipulative and exaggerated but it was not untrue. Those scenes were shot just before our attack, it was the truth, those things really were happening before we began the war.

      As for his more recent films, they have been far more disciplined in sticking to more accurately portraying the facts.

      The Insurance and Pharma industries and their toadies in Congress and the MSM (remember Sanjay Gupta outright lying about what was said in it?) tried to attack Sicko but failed because it was very accurate.

      Capitalism, a Love Story was similarly mostly bullet proof as far as I’m aware.

      So, as a person, I don’t know that I or most people would get along with Moore but as the most influential documentary filmmaker in this country, I think he does a pretty good job.

      • escribacat says:

        Maybe I will rent one of those and see what I think.

      • Khirad says:

        I agree (I beat you to it below, in condensed form), but this was largely for the Sunni minority pledging fealty to Ba’ath. While as stable as a secular police state can be, the Shi’ites and Kurds (before the no fly zone) as well as Marsh Arabs, political dissidents and anyone who posed a threat to the minority rule could easily disappear or be conscripted to go to the front in war.

    • Khirad says:

      I get what you’re saying. It is of note though that many of the things he was attacked for in it from the right ended up being true. He gets credit for that. As for ‘documentary’ -- there needs to be a better term than that. To make the point that outside of running into Saddam or his sons, life was stable and secular, is indeed disingenuous. Not that that isn’t true to a great extent, but that it ignored all the genocide, Arab Sunni chauvinism and invasion of Iran, and the suffering he brought to his country in that way. In addition to indeed being a threat to the region (though contained and certainly not a direct threat to US soil).

      He goes way over the top though agreed. I find it ironic that the HCR opponents were complaining nobody read the bill, when that was a device of Moore’s. Time and time again I see them lifting these things (subconsciously or intentionally?) from Moore and the left. Also, I thought Bowling for Columbine was nifty, though in retrospect, Marilyn Manson was wrong. As much as I agreed with him at the time, and knew what it felt like to be bullied (and was a member of the “trench coat mafia” before it was invented). The leaders of these massacres were not bullied or worth listening to -- they were racist psychopaths, as later studies would prove. In this, Moore was wrong. If you wanted prescience, you could’ve talked to High School me. I saw school shootings as something waiting to happen and could only say insouciantly -- “oh, someone finally did it”.

      • escribacat says:

        I forgot to mention something that bugged me about Bowling for Columbine. I deliberately didn’t watch that because I had seen cuts from it — the part where Moore is badgering a feeble and confused old Charlton Heston. I could hardly watch it. It was terrible. For me, it didn’t matter that Heston was Mr. NRA. He was still a feeble old codger and should have been treated with some respect.

    • Kalima says:

      Anyone who would seriously claim that Saddam’s son’s were “good guys” needs to have their head examined, pronto.

      The younger son snatched women off the streets and raped them, married, single, widowed played no part, if they resisted he would beat them senseless or even kill them. The older son killed the husband of his sister and many more who he thought had betrayed his father. They were both the dregs of mankind and murdered indiscriminately, whenever and whomever they chose to murder. Good guys, my left bum cheek!



      I hope that we never forget this either.


      • Chernynkaya says:

        I can’t even imagine how Saddam’s sons could have become such psychos. I used to think about it and wonder if Saddam worked hard at turning them into monsters-- and about how such a thing is accomplished-- or did they come by it just by having a brutal father? No way to know, but it would make quite a case study.

        • escribacat says:

          I seem to recall watching one program that told about some episode with Uday, I think it was, where Daddy Saddam made him shoot someone when Uday was very young. Oh…my memory is very dim now and I can’t recall the details. Maybe I can find it online somewhere.

          • Kalima says:

            I remember something about that too escribacat. I think he took both of them to the desert for shooting practice, an initiation of sorts, and they weren’t hunting squirrels.

        • Kalima says:

          I think it was a case of like father, like son, and of course the power gave them the feeling that no one was above them who could stop them from doing these things. Can’t imagine Saddam telling them that they were bad, can you?

      • escribacat says:

        Those were a couple of scary murderous psychopaths! And I will never forget reading about Halabja and looking at those pictures.

    • javaz says:

      I like Michael Moore and agree with Cher in that we need him and more like him to counter the right-wing hate.

      We saw Fahrenheit 9/11 at the theater, and believe me when I say we rarely ever go to an actual movie theater, and when the movie was over, the audience stood and clapped.
      I can’t remember the last time that I was at a movie theater and people stood and applauded a film.

      And as it turns out, nearly everything in F 9/11 turned out to be true.

      I think Moore is clever and gets his point across using humor.

      And that’s fine that you dislike him and his films, as I absolutely hated “The Hangover” but everyone I know loved it!

    • Chernynkaya says:

      E’cat, I didn’t see that movie, so I can’t argue with you-- from what you said, it does sound manipulative. But I love Moore. I think he is the counterbalance we need, hyperbole aside. With all the adjit-prop by the right, we need all the help we can get.

      Sorry Escribicat!~I meant you--not Kes!

    • PepeLepew says:

      Well, you’re not a *real* progressive, so there’s no surprise there.

      Obamabot! 😛

  7. PepeLepew says:

    Here is a very neat and touching story out of Montana. A father who lost his teenage daughter in a DUI accident a few weeks ago has reevaluated his priorities and decided to go to Haiti to volunteer there:


    • escribacat says:

      Nice story, Pepe. Did you notice who wrote it? Was this deliberate or are there mysterious psychic forces at work here? The article is signed:

      Reporter Michael Moore can be reached at 523-5252 or by at [email protected].

  8. bitohistory says:

    What the heck? I’m not here for the day and O/T turns into a conspiracy site? 😆 No mention of Oswald? Bay of Pigs? Did FDR know about Pearl Harbor? 😀

    • SueInCa says:

      How about the Gulf of Tonkin? Did the gov not lie about it? How about MacNamara’s admission that we should never have gone to war in Vietnam? And how sorry he was for his lies to drive us there? In the future, when it is not so important or when people tend to have a softening around the edges about an incident, the stories come out.

      Now, I am not saying Oswald was not the shooter, I am saying I have grave doubts he had the where-with-all to pull if off. If I had been standing on the grassy knoll, you would know the truth by now. But then I would be dead too, like alot of other people…….I’m just saying.

      • bitohistory says:

        Sue, I woke up read some posts and just tried to make a funny. That was all. I am , in no way, being serious! Good night.

        • SueInCa says:

          OMG, I guess I sounded too serious. I, in no way meant to offend you. My joking sometimes comes out too satirical. I got that you were being funny. I will have to work on my responses to humor a bit better. I mainly meant to show that over time things may not be as serious as the present, so people tell the real truth……..I do apologize

        • javaz says:

          Sweet dreams, b’ito and hope you feel better.

    • javaz says:

      I tried starting the conspiracy that you were abducted by aliens from outer-space, b’ito, but it looks like you’ve been released.
      Was it a stellar experience?

  9. javaz says:

    Anyone else watching the hockey game between the Wings and Penguins?
    What a game!

  10. kesmarn says:

    “This Week” on ABC today: guests are Roger Ailes, Paul Krugman, George Will and Aryanna. Host is Barbara Walters. Interesting to see Krugman and Ailes bump heads. Krugman is pretty direct in basically just calling Faux News/Ayles a crew of liars.

    Aryanna is on her usual banking rants. Anti-Geithner ravings. Constant interruptions. She and Ailes are starting to look like co-conspirators.

    • nellie says:

      To me, Arianna always looks like she’s really representing herself. She’s becoming the new Anne Coulter — and I mean that in all seriousness. I’m starting to think she gets invited on so many shoes because she’s provocative.

      I don’t know how seriously her comments are taken. BUT… the Huffington Post is taken very seriously. I see more and more big names, like Lawrence O’Donnell, associated with the site. And more news outlets quoting their articles — which is particularly alarming since HP doesn’t do any real reporting.

      • escribacat says:

        Lawrence O’Donnell has apparently backed off from HP. Last time KO introduced him, he called him a “former contributor to the Huffington Post.”

        • nellie says:

          That’s good to know.

          Still, Olbermann apparently felt that the association w HP gave O’Donnell some stature, or he wouldn’t have mentioned it.

          • escribacat says:

            I know. Olbermann has AH on his show quite often and the other day had Greg Mitchell, whom he announced as “with the Huffington Post.” Mitchell’s older references sounded much more impressive and I kept wondering why he had stooped to join HP. Don’t those guys see the headlines and the mentality on that site? The headlines and pix in the right hand column are almost all breasts and bikinis.

            • nellie says:

              HP really is a mixed bag. They have some of the best high-profile contributors in the country. They have senators, congress people, cabinet members. university presidents all writing articles for the blog sections. It’s remarkable, and they deserve credit for that. I think when someone has a point to push, they go to HP with the idea — and probably the correct idea — they they’ll reach a wider audience than if they penned an op ed for the Post or the Times.

            • Hopeington says:

              Kesmarn, Ailes said what!! Oh how different the conversation would be if it was a Dem that has posed nude.a
              At least Scott was lookin good, the thought of Ailes posing like that is beyond imagining! yuck!

            • kesmarn says:

              Yes, nellie, they have articles by people like Art Delaney, Michael Moore, Robert Reich, whom I admire. And then the good stuff is positioned right next to voo-doo medical crap and mammary overload. Nothing like trying to be all things to all people, and ending up totally compromised! Ailes was really unpleasant on This Week. E.g, when the subject of Scott Brown’s nude pics came up, Ailes said: “I’d pose like that for $100.” I think there’s very little he wouldn’t do for $100. That’s where he and AH find common ground.

  11. Hopeington says:

    My OT thing I want to share tonight is my other go to place, veteranstoday.com. There senior editor Gordon Duff has his finger on the pulse of so many issues and his perspective and investigative talents really packs a punch to everything he writes.
    His style actually reminds me of AdLib. While they do have a staff, they welcome their members to submit posts, just like here. It has a really good vibe, they allow, and get trolls, but Gordon usually steps in and pulls them to the curb, and reminds them, much the way AdLib does here, that respect is all we’re asking for, not that your pov be the same as everyone else.
    I did post AdLibs Dr Suits over there and Gordon monitors his comments, so I’m hoping he saw it.
    Anyway here are my favorite links today:
    First is an incredible look into the fiasco at Landrieu’s office the other day. I haven’t seen it reported from this perspective.
    Very interesting.

    Then this little tidbit about the cover up regarding the Detroit Bomber.
    Once again from a different perspective than you see elsewhere. This guy is intelligent and informed.

    Also his op-ed on President Obama and the Republicans

    And this one on “Osama’s” latest audio tape and where he thinks it comes from and why.
    He’s got some facts that just won’t quit!

    That was going to be the last until I found this one, which I thought to be the most intriguing of all.

    I’ll stop now, Just wanted to shed a bright spot on another positive web site…they’ve even got a petition to arrest the 5
    SC Justices for treason, ya gotta love the guy!

    • Chernynkaya says:

      Here’s some military dirt that’s not a conspiracy theory, but fact:

      Despite being reprimanded for his political activities by Navy officials recently, Lt. Comdr. John Sharpe

      • javaz says:

        Now, one would hope that after Ft. Hood that all branches of the military would do something, but perhaps it’s because this guy is white and a Catholic?

        I know that gangs have been joining the military and learning all kinds of techniques to get ‘er done since the military lowered its standards during the Bush years.
        Maybe it’s time the military raises their standards again to prevent the training of psychopaths.

      • Chernynkaya says:

        Gee, that blockquote thingy worked out well-- NOT! 😳

        Today’s my day for oopses.

    • AdLib says:

      Hopeington, I appreciate where Duff is coming from but he is way over the top on wild conspiracy theories and “facts” based on rumor and speculation.

      Sure, you can say it but no, you can’t arrest the SCOTUS for treason because of this travesty of a vote that even the ACLU supported. Anymore than you can arrest Lieberman for being a traitor, much as we would like to.

      And this opening paragraph of his article on “what is being kept” from us is…well…more extremist conspiracy theories based upon nothing but speculation. See what you think:


      January 31, 2010 by Gordon Duff

      • escribacat says:

        I’m not big on the conspiracy stuff either so I would tend to discount someone who writes this kind of stuff. Keith Olbermann did have a segment about these breakin “kids” last week though and talked about how they weren’t just “kids.” I think at least one of them had a job in some government organization.

      • Hopeington says:

        I had read that this morning AdLib and mentioned earlier i thought he was afflicted with consiracy-itis, but I still don’t think he’s far off the mark.
        But I do agree that strong progressives won’t get far running on conspiracy charges that cannot be proved ( which is what makes it a conspiracy)
        I still like his opinion and perspective.
        I don’t trust what the Cheney Cabal was up to anymore than anyone else here. Nor do I think any of us are fooled to believe that his influence isn’t, in some way, still influencing parts of our current military and CIA. At the very least, I think that Duff is a good watch dog.
        Plus, I will admit, I’m one of those weirdos that finds “conspiracy theory musings” interesting.
        Let me add, I do think he’s given too much credit to the 4 nincompoops that invaded Landrieu’s office and I didn’t pay much attention to that one, just thought I’d wait and see, it was a bit of a stretch..
        We all knew of their connections to the “spy school”, I just don’t think they had the intelligence, either their own or some kind of backup, to pull off anything more than the utterly stupid pathetic prank that it appears to be.
        But you never know, and isn’t that where the conspiracy part comes in? LOL

        • AdLib says:

          That’s the thing about overstepping in the conspiracy area, it can taint all of one’s comments, past and present.

          I think there are kernels of truth in the middle of the popcorn balls of conspiracy he’s fluffed together but that’s how all conspiracy theories are created, with a grain of truth extrapolated way past any provable or reasoned conclusion.

          Is he close to the truth with the DOD and CIA being behind these goofballs attempting a ridiculously idiotic and amateurish violation of federal law?

          No way. It is a total fabrication with absolutely no evidence to back it up.

          A more reasonable and logical assemblage of the facts at hand would point to people who WANTED to be spies, wanted to be sneaks and deceptive manipulators. So the involvement of Dai who was involved in helping steer kids into espionage makes perfect sense.

          They acted like deluded extremists that thought they were so clever after their ACORN stunt and wanted to top it, continue being “spies” infiltrating the liberals to destroy them.

          These conclusions are logical, reasonable and in line with acceptable motivations and psychologies that could be likely applicable to the people involved.

          DOD and CIA involvement? Israel plotting to assassinate Obama? Frankly, those are ridiculous and absurd paranoid conspiracy theories.

          Why I seem a bit energetic about pointing this out is that it could be detrimental to other Progressive bloggers to have someone paralleling much of what many Progressives may be expressing, then add in paranoid fantasies on top.

          It could leave others with the impression that since Progressives go down the line with him on many other issues, Progressives should also be accurately characterized as a group as commonly believing in such ridiculous things.

          Like you, I don’t mind reading musings about conspiracies, I find them amusing in most cases, sobering in a few cases but when they’re presented as the truth, as the way things are, it reflects very poorly on the one presenting them.

          I hope Duff continues focusing on important issues with a a healthy amount of cynicism but to not disqualify all of his opinions, I think he needs to pull back from his presentation of far-fetched conspiracy theories as fact or it will taint all of his work.

    • SueInCa says:

      Thanks Hope. I had been directed to this website on an article about the Christmas bomber and at first I was not sure about him. Then I sent it to someone else and they came back and told me they had been following this guy all along. What he told me was to google some of the info in the articles and see what comes up. I did and was able to confirm alot of what he says. I have been thinking alot lately about Daniel Ellsberg and the Pentagon papers. I wish we had someone like that with all that is going on now. I can think of so many places where real truths could be told.
      Anyway, I bookmarked him this time so I don’t lose the website, so thanks

      • Hopeington says:

        Thanks for doing the google work on their site Sue. It’s good to know you checked him and he’s fairly accurate. I think they have a pretty good investigative staff and they are not just spewing talking points, just trying to disseminate information and connect the dots.

        • SueInCa says:

          I googled because I had the feeling he might be a conspiracy theorist and quite frankly alot of the background had not been reported in the MSM. Again I got caught in that trap with the MSM so I googled……….I almost always check the source of a site I visit now to be sure I can trust them and it is not some rightwing spouting off nonsense. I then can read it with an eye to picking out the untruths, edited info etc etc.

    • escribacat says:

      Just reading the break in story. What a great link, Hope! I’ve never heard of this site before. They have a lot more information on the story. Have you found them to be reliable? He’s basically saying that the breakin “kids” were working for the CIA.

      I might be getting conspiracy-itis, but I’ve noticed in the past few months, there’s been a scandal about Reid that fizzled and a scandal about Baucus that fizzled. I think the rightwing “ops” are going after dems (though not getting very far).

      • Hopeington says:

        Well ecat, reliablity? I couldn’y really say. I think a lot of things may be from his perspective but he does seem to be knowledgeable about the in and out of things concerning the military and the way they operate and is willing to share that info.
        I will say that he might have what you call conspiracy-itis. He he a big believer in the 9/11 cover up and is generally mistrustful of the MSM or the CMA-corporate media agenda. I don’t think he’s out to mislead, it’s more like he wants to send you in a different direction and wake you up to a different perspective on current events. I think he also goes more in depth on certain characters and the background of events that kinda fills in some of the missing blanks of current news items.

    • nellie says:

      This is great, Hope. I’ve been to this site before, but I’ve never made it a regular thing. I may have to change that. His article on the Bin Laden tapes is an interesting take. You’d think something like that would have been picked up elsewhere, if just for the provocative nature of the idea.

      • Hopeington says:

        Nellie, I did wonder why no one else picked it up. Could be it’s just not a talking point that Washington gave out about the tapes and no one is investigating in depth about it or it’s, like you said, too provocative. I think the MSM isn’t going to report something if has a conspiratorial slant without doing in depth investigation, and who does that these days? Not many, and those that do must have their hands full!! Gordon Duff has a bit more freedom in that regard. no one’s going to fire him.

    • Kalima says:

      Arresting the 5 SC justices sounds like a really good idea, they would certainly deserve it for leading your country further down the path of destruction.

    • KQuark says:

      Thanks for all the links I’ll have to check them out tomorrow though.

  12. Hopeington says:

    Ok, it’s my turn…
    I ended my relationship with PuffHo yesterday.
    I had 2 profiles, and I ended them both.
    Thanks to all of you I had the strength and fortitude to do it.
    Like someone else, sort of, said, I wanted to ban them from my life before they could ban me from theirs..
    It sure feels good. Since I’m not a member of any other right wing groups, why should I be a member of PuffHo?
    Yahoo, I’m a free woman!!!

  13. boomer1949 says:

    Totally and Non-Super Bowl related…

    The manager of Perpetuum Jazzile, Bostjan Usenik, flew in last Thursday to negotiate a June/July US tour. His last email indicated that although HE has been to the USA before, NONE of Perpetuum Jazzile has been afforded the opportunity to travel to the States. None, and I mean none of these kids has EVER been here before. That said…

    Rumor has it that PJ’s tour will be East of the Mississippi, and one of the stops may very well be right here in Columbus OH. And, believe it or not, I didn’t even BEG. He told me and seemed very excited at the prospect. Go Figure!

    I’ve pleaded my case to The White House, PBS, WOSU Television, WOSU Radio 89.7, NPR and WCBE 90,5 FM. Can’t think of anyone else to “annoy.”

    So…if any of you should, could, or would want to fly East this Summer, I would love to welcome you to the great state of Ohio. Snow, cold weather, and Buckeye Football aside, it’s not such a horrific place to be -- ‘cept when I whine about this time of year -- boo hoo.

    Dog, and as I’ve told AdLib, I’ll never forgive my parents for leaving San Diego (where I was born). I know, I know…whine, whine, whine. It’s 11 degrees here. Yuck!

    So, if anyone might be the least bit interested in coming to Moo-town, OH this Summer, please let me know, so I have an opportunity to lobby Bostjan and secure exceptional accommodations for all.

    My apologies for sounding corny, but 1) when have any of you (except for WTS) been to Ohio, 2) been East of the Mississippi, or 3) whatever reason you can come up with been to OH USA. 🙂

    Thanks and God Bless,

    • SueInCa says:

      I have been to Ohio, Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Virginia, Pennyslvania, Maryland, DC, Illinois, Kentucky, NC, SC, Florida, Delaware, New Jersey, Wisconsin, Indiana, W Virginia, Tennessee, GA, most in the past 10 years. I worked for Visa USA and had staff on the east coast(McClean) so for three years I spent at least a week a month on the east coast. I also had to travel as Director of the Project Management group so visited many banks and merchants in all those states. I have to say my favorite place was Milwaukee and DC but if I could afford it, I would come back and meet you in Ohio.

  14. bitohistory says:

    Subject: Tell CBS: Don’t air anti-abortion Super Bowl ad
    CREDO has sent out another alert, So Planeteers please sign the petition. Help Stop Bopp

    The broadcast networks that air the Super Bowl have historically rejected advocacy ads. Yet CBS, which is airing the Super Bowl this year, has accepted an anti-choice ad by the ultra-conservative group Focus on the Family.

    Focus on the Family’s “celebrate life” (read: anti-choice) ad features Heisman Trophy-winning college football star Tim Tebow. And CBS approved this anti-choice ad, even though the network has repeatedly rejected advocacy ads in past years including a 2004 MoveOn.org ad that went after then-President Bush’s fiscal irresponsibility and an ad the same year from the United Church of Christ showing them welcoming a gay couple who had been turned away from another church. And they just rejected a comical ad from a gay dating site from this year’s lineup of ads.

    So to recap: CBS wouldn’t allow a group to criticize Bush, wouldn’t let a religious group promote its own tolerance of LGBT families and considers a light-hearted dating ad out of bounds. But CBS is perfectly happy to allow Focus on the Family to promote its conservative social agenda.

    Join me in calling on CBS to kill the Focus on the Family ad before the Super Bowl on February 7!


    • SueInCa says:

      Signed it, these people have a special place in my mind -- getting out their phony messages and alerting people to their evil plans. I probably will not watch the superbowl in it’s entirety, but I can boycott CBS any other time and I will.

    • javaz says:

      As much as I’d like to boycott the station that day for airing the ad, I just cannot do it since it is the last football game of the season.
      And we’re big on football in this house.

      I’ve signed the petition previously, for all the good it will do.

      I would think that being the Super Bowl and with people partying during the game, that once that commercial comes on, there will be a huge run for the bathrooms and the water pressure throughout the country will experience low-flow with millions flushing at the same time!

      And from what I’ve been reading, Tebow wasn’t exactly popular to begin with, and this nonsense is hurting him even more.
      I like what some people are saying -- in that this will be the closest to a Super Bowl that Tebow will get, so let him have his few seconds of deceit.

    • KQuark says:

      Cheers Bito done for me and my wife.

    • Kalima says:

      I was so mad when I read about this, I went to your link and signed it too. Jail time for impersonation of an American citizen, so be it. Send me fresh in season fruit baskets one a month and I’ll do my time. 🙂

      • KQuark says:

        Hey Kalima I hope you are have a good weekend. Even though it’s almost over for you.

        • Kalima says:

          Hey yourself K. Yesterday was busy, I ended up doing too much and was pooped last night. Today was an almost calm day by comparison.

          Sent emails to your other address because the usual place returned them again after 4 hours. Are they insane about “user complaints” I’m with them on one email account, idiots!

          Hope things are better with you.

          • KQuark says:

            Argh. Even the gmail address?

            It’s the same prefix as my Yahoo address with gmail.com at the end. I even get that address on my phone.

            Yeah I turned in early last night and it helped. I’m gonna sign off now so I get some more rest.

            • Kalima says:

              Ok,I’ve been looking for the other one, thanks.

              Good night K, hope you get more much needed rest. Take care.

    • Hopeington says:

      Cool, I got 6 others to sign it too.

  15. bitohistory says:

    Thom Hartman interviews a corporation now running for Congress
    Meet your new Congressperson. 😈

  16. javaz says:

    Okay, I want to share something before I head off to bed.
    My brother that died in December, well, he and I were estranged, and it was his doing and not mine.
    I love him, as I love all my brothers, and I love my brothers unconditionally.
    Seems my brothers have conditions on their love when it comes to me and each other.
    Anyway, my brother that died, his partner had a memorial and didn’t tell me, so I heard about it from a cousin, and that really hurt.
    Then again, I am so used to my brothers hurting me, but that, when my brother died and his partner not telling me about his memorial cut very deep and hurt me more than words can ever express.
    So, my husband, unbeknown to me, made a donation through the Red Cross for Haiti in my brother’s name and through them, they sent an email to Lee that told him that we made a donation in my brother’s name.
    I cried when my husband told he’d done that, as it meant so much to me.
    Lee sent us a thank you and the most wonderful packet from my brother’s service and for that I am so forever grateful.
    Lee gave my brother a good send off and there were over 140 people attended the service.
    I’m sort of in a quandary now, because I know how much Lee is hurting from losing my brother, but he was the main reason my brother disowned me.
    I’ve always loved Lee, too, but he, I don’t know.
    I still want to know what it is that I ever did or said to make them hate me so much.
    I’m thinking after the package about my brother’s memorial, should I send Lee another card and an occasional letter, or does he hate me so much that he never wants to hear from me again?
    If anyone reads this, I’d sure appreciate your opinion.

    • bitohistory says:

      j’avaz do not let him darken your heart. Yours is full of light; let it shine. Stay in contact and if he chooses to have a darkness, so be it. It brings no harm to you.

    • kesmarn says:

      I’d go ahead and stay in contact, if possible, j’avaz. I always say that if the worst thing anyone can ever say about someone is that they loved people who might not have deserved it, that’s a fortunate thing. As Kalima said, you’ve already been through the worst. You’re a good person.

    • Kalima says:

      You or rather your husband made this first move, he replied. I can’t see any harm in sending the occasional short letter and holiday cards. The only thing that could happen is that he might not reply and you have had much worse to deal with in the past. There is never really a downside to holding out your hand and if the other person refuses to take it, it is not your loss or your fault

      Good night javaz, rest well.

      • javaz says:

        Thank you , Kalima, for your wise words.
        I shall do that.
        I’ll send an occasional card, and if I do not hear back, well, my heart and spirit cannot be broken any worse than what it is already.

        I’m not a bad person.
        I just don’t get it.

        • Kalima says:

          I’m honoured that you would accept my advice and as you say, your heart has already been broken by this situation, so you won’t lose anything by reaching out, the other person will though.

          Take care, think positive thoughts and this too will lighten and pass.

          Sweet dreams javaz.

  17. Kalima says:

    Khirad, I just found this in one of my alert emails this morning, maybe you’ve already seen it.


  18. bitohistory says:

    Emerald!! I do hope all is going well for you. Good to see you back ❗

  19. bitohistory says:

    KQ, while you are here, Thought you may like to look at this on “scalable nuke plants.
    Can Small Modular Reactors Save the US Nuclear Industry?


  20. javaz says:

    Here’s a tear-jerker, 2 hankie story --


    It’s commendable that the daughter is willing to forgive her father and give him a chance.

  21. javaz says:

    Kurt Warner retired from the NFL after playing for 12 seasons.

    No comment.

  22. bitohistory says:

    On the Q&A Damn it—- democratIC!!!! Is it that hard to say?

  23. bitohistory says:

    Lookout California!! Orly Taitz to Run for Office? Are you people ready for this jewel? I think the rest of the country and Jon Stewart would love to see it happen. ❗ CAUTION! DO NOT GO TO HER SITE! MALWARE INFECTED ❗

    She recently posted asking whether any of her followers could get her in touch with the California Republican Party or with Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele. She’s also looking for someone that can enlist the help of whomever managed the campaign for Scott Brown, the Republican victor of Massachusetts’ recent special election for U.S. Senate.


    Pheeww! It’s not AZ!

    • tb92 says:

      Oh, I hope she does! The more money the GOP wastes fighting off the crazies, the better. Besides, she made a fantastic costume for last Halloween. It was the scariest thing I had ever worn.

    • nellie says:

      That’s all we need. Another crazy opportunist in congress…

      • PatsyT says:

        I think she is looking to replace Debra Bowen California Secretary of State
        or the Attorney General.
        I am not even sure she is even legal.
        My OC friends see her as a total joke, and
        she is here in the OC !
        But after that Mass race everyone needs to keep their eyes wide open!

    • PatsyT says:

      Well, we are the entertainment capital of the World !
      That link has some hilarious comments …
      Thanks Bito
      Right in my own back yard !

  24. PatsyT says:

    Has anyone watched President Obama at todays House Republican Event ?
    That was amazing!
    Obama took apart their arguments one by one.
    I believe it was Luke Russert that said --
    ~now the House Repubs are upset that they let the cameras roll
    during the question and answer part because it made the Repubs look bad~
    (not the exact quote but pretty close)
    I am so proud of our President!
    Any thoughts ??

    • boomer1949 says:

      Only into the first 8 minutes of Q & A…I love it!

    • nellie says:

      He was surprisingly straightforward with them. I hope he gets utterly fed up and finds a way to make them completely obsolete.

    • boomer1949 says:

      Well of course they wouldn’t want anything “on the record.” Now they can’t lie their way out of it. Our President wasn’t born yesterday — what did they expect him to do?

    • bitohistory says:

      I didn’t know it was televised. I thought for sure the R’s wouldn’t allow that to happen. Did c-span cover it? Thanks for the info Patsy ❗

      • PatsyT says:

        Here is one link

        The visual version is important because
        his face, at points, is priceless,
        you can see he knows he has them boxed in
        and he is respectful and smiling while
        deflating their little bity talking points bubbles.

        Ahhh good stuff !

        I don’t know if it was on CSpan
        I saw it on MSNBC they played the whole thing with out interruption.
        It went over time
        at one point Obama said ~ I am having a good time here ~

  25. boomer1949 says:

    Just made a couple of quick searches trying to find out what Pat Robertson and his 700 Club were up to in 1992.

    The good reverand gave a speech at the Republican National Covention.

    1992 Republican Convention

    Recently two reporters writing for Newsweek, Debra Rosenberg and Rebecca Sinderbran, released a piece on the MSNBC Web site about potential favors owed by the Bush administration to Evangelical Christian supporters following the 2004 election. The lead paragraph carried the incredible assertion that, at the 1992 Republican Convention in Houston, Pat Robertson had “railed against abortion and homosexuals.”

    From Adele Stan over at AlterNet

    Among the snippets of the Scott Roeder trial I caught yesterday on television, the most fascinating was the process by which he became a

  26. bitohistory says:

    Hey k’es, Hope all is good today.
    He is a small, man. A little,little man. How many policy decisions has he ever made that affected millions of people? How many troops has he had to send to be injured, killed or kill?

    What a mental midget!

  27. bitohistory says:

    LAB, do you get BBC on your cable? I watch that in the morning. I can’t take Morning Schmo and little Nikita.

  28. javaz says:

    Perhaps KQ’s music thread this evening will be songs related to the moon, since tonight is going to be the brightest and biggest full moon of the year, with Mars visible to the left!

    * A full moon at perigee also brings higher ocean tides. This tug of the moon on Earth also creates tides in the planet’s crust, not just in the oceans.
    * Beaches are more polluted during full moon, owing to the higher tides.
    * In reality, there’s no such thing as a full moon. The full moon occurs when the sun, Earth and the moon are all lined up, almost. If they’re perfectly aligned, Earth casts a shadow on the moon and there’s a total lunar eclipse. So during what we call a full moon, the moon’s face is actually slightly less than 100 percent illuminated.
    * The moon is moving away as you read this, by about 1.6 inches (4 cm) a year.


  29. Khirad says:

    Scott Roeder -- Guilty!

    Edit, from AP:

    The jury deliberated for just 37 minutes before finding Scott Roeder, 51, of Kansas City, Mo., guilty of premeditated, first-degree murder in the May 31 shooting death.

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