The Weekly Planet

11-20-09

Special Guests: FeloniousMonk and Grabamop

  • AdLib : THANK YOU ALL FOR JOINING US AT THE WEEKLY PLANET! THANKS TO OUR SPECIAL GUESTS, GRABAMOP AND FELONIOUSMONK! HEAD ON OVER TO THE POST AT THIS LINK TO CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION: «link» x
  • AdLib : THE CHAT EVENT HERE IS ENDING, COME OVER AND CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION AT THE POST AT THIS LINK: «link» x

  • FeloniousMonk : KQ, yes, back when I had a job, I saw that a lot, including the continued rising of copays on medical and prescriptions, and loss of other benefits. Even with nominal raises, each year you made less, not even considering inflation. x

  • Grabamop/Obama2008 : Good Evening! x

  • Grabamop/Obama2008 : There is so much they damaged in the last 8 years. x

  • AdLib : OKAY ALL, TIME TO WRAP THE WEEKLY PLANET BUT LET’S CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION ON ALL THESE TOPICS AT THE POST. CLICK THIS LINK TO GO TO THE POST: «link» x

  • KQuark : Exactly Sue! x

  • SueInCa : if we can’t try these guys, then our justice system and security is for shit, maybe the GOp decimated that as well x

  • KevenSeven : Felo, what the hell ever, it is a Fed responsibility, that is the point. The NYPD will have men on the job, but the Feds will pay for it. Sheese. x

  • KQuark : FM I want most from healthcare reform is healthcare security. Even like HITO said your employer can change your insurance at any time right now. x

  • FeloniousMonk : The “Fascist assholes” are going to throw out any arguement that they can. They aren’t interested in justice, nor America’s image, nor the real safety issues. Only revenge and power. x

  • bitohistory : Like I said the Fed is going to pick up the tab. Including NYC cops x

  • Grabamop/Obama2008 : Indeed K7 more lies from the shrieking pansies…… x

  • SueInCa : All you gotta say to the GOP is boo and they wet their pants x

  • PepeLepew : I suspect NY and the feds would share some of the security costs, with the feds probably taking the brunt of it. x

  • KevenSeven : Graba, why do so many people think NY is going to be stuck with a big bill? Because it suits the purposes of fascist assholes to push that narrative. x

  • bitohistory : Governor’s Island x

  • Grabamop/Obama2008 : Well we know that the GOP are a bunch of cowards. x

  • FeloniousMonk : K7, the federal marshall service isn’t big enough on this one, if it came to pass. More likely a lot of FBI, some NSA, and then a lot of good old NYC boys in blue. x

  • SueInCa : there were trials before for these guys, i am not sure what all the talk is about security, the marshalls do this every day x

  • bitohistory : Costs were discussed during the hearing s the other day.the Fed will pick up the tab. x

  • Grabamop/Obama2008 : Oh, ok, then why do so many people think the it’s going to cost NY? It’s going to cost all of us as taxpayers. x

  • KevenSeven : Bit, I have no clue about any island, but I am sure it is perfectly unnecessary to be bothered with it. x

  • KevenSeven : Grabamop, No, the Fed Marshals will handle security. x

  • FeloniousMonk : Some of the security, but they might get recompensed by the government for supplying the manpower and logistics. x

  • Grabamop/Obama2008 : Yes Pepe, supposedly he was on Dialysis….. x

  • SueInCa : well, i definitely aware of that. i was just a little fuzzy on the outcome and punishment phase x

  • Grabamop/Obama2008 : Won’t NY be responsible for the security? x

  • bitohistory : K7, what are you thought on having the KSM trial out on the island in the harbor? x

  • PepeLepew : I agree with Grabamop. My gut feeling tells me OBL is dead. Didn’t he have a really serious kidney condition? x

  • KevenSeven : Sue, I am not at all sure that everyone understands that NY will not be paying for this. Certainly HITO is concerned about it. x

  • Grabamop/Obama2008 : sure Sue. x

  • SueInCa : thanks graba x

  • KevenSeven : AdLib, tell it to HITO. x

  • Grabamop/Obama2008 : Fed law trumps state law x

  • AdLib : K7, chill. We’re all colleagues here. x

  • SueInCa : K7 i think we understand NY was not prosecuting, but the question was if ny law regarding the death penalty would hold, i think the answer is no x

  • KevenSeven : HITO, you used the word “fucking” in your response to me. Go cry a river. What damned difference does it make where I live? x

  • Grabamop/Obama2008 : you are correct K7 x

  • bitohistory : KQ, SHIT, Sorry to here. x

  • KevenSeven : PEOPLE! The AG is the AG of the whole fucking country. He is leading a FEDERAL prosecution. If the state of NY WANTS to prosecute, let them. But the question at hand is that KSM will be prosecuted in Fed courts. x

  • SueInCa : i meant federal law x

  • Grabamop/Obama2008 : Does anyone think Bin Laden is alive? I think is is dead. x

  • AdLib : Interstate crimes are under federal jurisdiction, as are any crimes related to planes. x

  • Grabamop/Obama2008 : see ya HITO x

  • KQuark : Yup did the Muga and everything but I was treated 2 years before they changed the MOPP/ABV therapy to mitigate the effects of the adriamycine. x

  • FeloniousMonk : For most people, death is an easier punishment than being in a singular cell for 30-40 years. I bet Charlie Manson wishes he’d been executed. x

  • Grabamop/Obama2008 : I meant cop killings…not for the cops themselves x

  • SueInCa : if tried in fed court, us law would prevail not state, i think x

  • HITO : K7, wow, “fucking difference” I’m out kids. Be well. x

  • Grabamop/Obama2008 : you are correct Monk and since 9/11 happened in more than one state he could be tried in Fed court. x

  • AdLib : My feeling is that if we wanted to prove to the Muslim world what America is all about, we try Bin Laden, use evidence to prove him guilty then send him to life in prison. x

  • SueInCa : really Graba? Maybe for cop killings? x

  • FeloniousMonk : IF it’s a federal trial, not a state one, then I beleive federal punishment comes into play. x

  • HITO : Sue: No NY does not have death penalty…for now. Weak governor may be overtaken, but apparently not by Guiliani. x

  • Grabamop/Obama2008 : NY had the death penalty only for cops x

  • bitohistory : KQ, Did you not get a MUGA before chemo? x

  • KevenSeven : HITO, what fucking difference does it make where I live? I am an American and KSM’s prosecution will be paid for by the feds. x

  • FeloniousMonk : You know that one of the traditional methods is to make them “unclean” by feeding them pork or spraying pig fat on them. Then if they die they’re denied “Heaven”. x

  • SueInCa : ny does not have the death penalty, right? x

  • HITO : Grab: Listening to Palin’s book on audio as punishment…RLM AO x

  • KQuark : Wow I got mine in 2005. A chemo drug destroyed my heart muscle about 15 years ago now. x

  • PepeLepew : I think executing OBL would be a mistake. Martydom is so big with the fundamentalists. Just let him rot for life in SuperMax … but I know if we ever caught him and convicted him, it would be automatic execution. x

  • HITO : k7, do you live in NY? x

  • SueInCa : pay per view, I like that one felonious x

  • Grabamop/Obama2008 : oops……..once Bin Laden is convicted his sentence should be that he has to listen to Palins book on tape read in her own voice…over and over again. x

  • SueInCa : i actually believe everyone should get a trial, so I prob would not really advocate killing him. a trial would be interesting x

  • KevenSeven : HITO, these are Federal prosecutions, and I could care less how much they fucking cost. Let Justice be served, x

  • FeloniousMonk : Yes, since around 2000. Hypertropic Cardiomyopathy. x

  • SeeknDestroy : Free for all x

  • AdLib : I…er…planned this to be the open chat portion of the event. Yeah, planned it! If everyone is cool with it, shall we continue here or on a post? x

  • bitohistory : question:World Court? x

  • Grabamop/Obama2008 : Once x

  • KQuark : FM did you say you had an ICD too? x

  • Grabamop/Obama2008 : How about stoning him? You could sell stones in a lottery and it could go for education. x

  • PepeLepew : As far as OBL, yes, I say try him … x

  • FeloniousMonk : Put Cheney in as his bunky. That would be justice. And then do 24/7 pay per view of the cell on a webcam site. x

  • SueInCa : no send dickie boy to the field and take care of him along with the bin ladinster x