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rabiddog6708 On November - 28 - 2009
Categories: Speakers' Corner

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  1. escribacat says:

    I am not surprised by this. He said in his campaign that he intended to finish the war in Afghanistan, not withdraw. I’d like to see us get out of there but I also recognize that I don’t have all the facts. I know enough to know I have very little understanding of the situation. The administration has been studying the issue and I trust them to make the best decision. I know they’re not hanging around to show up daddy or get revenge for daddy or make money for Halliburton. They want to clean up the mess and get out as gracefully and as soon as possible. I also understand that we can’t leave another power vacuum like the one we left in Cambodia, which was filled by Pol Pot, who killed 21% of the population.

  2. Kalima says:

    What I find disgusting is the way the Bush gang ignored Afghanistan after they invaded Iraq, that and the promised aid funds from around the world, which in most cases was just an empty promise at the time.

    I did not nor have once since,heard your President promise to pull the troops out of Afghanistan, he didn

    • nellie says:

      Bothers me, too, Kalima. Here, this president has been in office less than a year, and he’s breaking his back trying to clean up a six-year boondoggle, not to mention 30 years of dysfunctional economic policy, and the people who were cheering at his speeches where he said “Change is hard,” “This isn’t going to be easy,” “This is going to take time,” “I need your help” are now sitting back on their lazy butts and doing nothing but whining. Really gets my blood boiling.

      • Kalima says:

        Exactly nellie, it was my pet peeve with progressives at Huff and then the other place we were. I remember his plea as if it was yesterday, he said, “I need your help, I can’t do this alone. Everyone will have to be prepared to sacrifice a little to make make this change happen.”

        I was so touched by the strength of those simple words, I remember the crowds cheering and now they want everything at once and as you say sit on the arses while complaining as much as the RW, sometimes it’s hard to fathom who the trolls are these days when you have a progressive calling the President “a dickless wonder” on another site.

        Shut up or put up, the President wasn’t the only one to make promises that day, at least he has kept many in his short term so far.

        • nellie says:

          I’m so disappointed in the progressive movement. What a bunch of babies people turned out to be. The tough, hang in there, push back, stand strong attitude is just not there. It’s unsophisticated and it plays right into corporate America’s greedy hands.

          When will idealists learn that you achieve your goals by being persistent? Complaining never accomplishes anything.

          Okay, enough ranting. This topic just gets me going.

          • Kalima says:

            I agree and it has made me fight back often, only to be told that the President is just a “brand” and that nothing will ever change. I asked them why they didn’t change sides, after all the RW really doesn’t want change so if they don’t believe in Obama, what’s the difference?

            In government we will never have exactly what we want, in our lives it is the same. I prefer to have an honest leader who really does have the best interests of the people at heart because he was one of them, rather than some spoiled rich kid who doesn’t even care about the constitution and had Daddy bribe his way through the education system.

            How quickly people forget how it was for 8 years, how sad that they only think about their own needs.

  3. KevenSeven says:

    Um. Obama CAMPAIGNED on continuing the fight in Afghanistan.

    Sorry if you did not get the memo.

    • nellie says:

      I understand when people feel we should get out of Afghanistan — I agree with this — but it always annoys me when they suggest that getting out was one of Mr. Obama’s campaign promises. As you point out, it was just the opposite. Thanks for reminding all us of us.

      • KevenSeven says:

        And the corollary: Obama is not as liberal as I am, so he is a bad person. Or a phony.

        I knew who Obama was before I voted for him (in the General, anyway). He voted to immunize the telecos. That was a base betrayal. But I’ll be damned if I am going to vote Green or Socialist just because my party’s standard bearer is more conservative than am I.

        It is an imperfect fucking world and I am past concerning myself about that. I just want it to be better. I do net expect perfect.

        • nellie says:

          He definitely campaigned as a centrist. A lot of people deceived themselves into thinking he was someone he never pretended to be. Now they’re complaining — because of their own inattention.

          • KevenSeven says:

            No surprise that people transferred their hopes and aspirations to him, he certainly did encourage that.

            Idealism is all well and good. But at some point one gets tired of getting kicked in the teeth.

            A little realism does no harm.

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