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- Afghan communications ministry attacked, at least two gunmen killed 04/20/2019Gunmen attacked the communications ministry in the center of Kabul on Saturday, interrupting months of relative calm in the Afghan capital and underlining the continued security threats despite efforts to open peace talks with the Taliban.
- Vulnerable House Democrats tread carefully in wake of Mueller report 04/20/2019Vulnerable House Democrats, mindful of President Donald Trump's continued strength among Republican voters, are using caution in how they respond to the special counsel's report, which detailed Trump's efforts to thwart the investigation into Russian efforts to help him win the White House.
- Thai navy boards cabin of fugitive 'seasteaders' facing death penalty 04/20/2019The Thai navy on Saturday boarded the floating cabin of a fugitive U.S. citizen and his Thai girlfriend, both prominent members of the "seasteading" movement who possibly face the death sentence for setting up their offshore home.
- Northern Ireland leaders urge calm as police arrest two over journalist's killing 04/20/2019Two men have been arrested in Northern Ireland over the killing of a journalist during a riot, police said, with politicians calling for calm after the shooting added to concerns about the stability of the region's 21-year-old peace deal.
- Egypt holds referendum that could keep Sisi in power until 2030 04/20/2019Egyptians began voting on Saturday in a three-day referendum on constitutional changes that could allow President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi to stay in office until 2030 and bolster the role of the powerful military.
- North Korea slams Bolton's 'dim-sighted' call for sign of denuclearization 04/20/2019North Korea has criticized U.S. National Security Adviser John Bolton's "nonsense" call for Pyongyang to show that it’s serious about giving up its nuclear weapons, the second time it has criticized a leading U.S. official in less than a week.
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Is it me? Can’t refresh fast enough. I’m waiting though…it’s worth it.
Nope, it’s me. Just adjusted how many comments appear per page (click “Older Comments” below to see more).
When we get a few hundred comments and they’re not paged, it takes a long time to load them all each time there’s a refresh!
Sorry about that!
I have no problem AdLib. Beats having comments dissipate.
Do NOT be sorry. see above.
Adlib, you are the one. You keep us floating.
Thanks.
We are running a bit slow when comments reach a certain number on each thread. AdLib is on it but it might take a little time. Thank you for your patience.
Kalima, no worries. Was just whining. Sorry, long day.
You guys do a great job. Adlib knows I have much respect for his work.
I know all about long days, hope that you feel more rested soon.
I do indeed and it’s very appreciated, my friend!
Is this thread only open to comment from residents of NY, or can anyone join in?
What, Tokyo is banned?
I only want the opinions of people who own lots and lots of cats.
No dogs?
Without dogs, I would not be a sane person. Without cats, I believe I’d be a little saner.
Yes, that is you. My dogs seem to need nothing from me but dinner. I think I get much more from them. They are terrific companions. Better than most people — present company excepted.
I grew up with dogs. Now I just can’t stand them. Too needy.
But that is me.
LOL…we all seem to be animal lovers here, maybe we should forget politics one night and just talk about our critters!
Oh nellie, how could you think that.
Well, if no dogs is the case, I’m just going to pick up my doggies and go home! Cats, indeed. @%#%^#^#^!!
đŸ˜† I love dogs too, just not well enough to take them for walkies.
I think there is a cat bias here, I would pick up my doggies if I could, but one at 100lbs and the other at 80lbs, I’d break my back.
So, I’ll just get my red wagon and haul them away with me, so there!
What’s the minimum. I have 2.
It’s the max the two dogs will allow!
You have more than one nellie, welcome.
The city objects to people having more then three.
Of course, I might lose my mind if I did have more than three.
Phew!
đŸ˜† You called?
Never, Kalima, adlib doesn’t want Godzilla swimming over here and coming after LA.
đŸ˜† I see that I DO serve a purpose here after all.
I thought you were the keeper of the flame during our darkness and your daylight! What could be more valuable than that?
I am and will always be on the side of justice for all and not only in a court of law.
I am humbled. *blushesintoherhankie*
Haha. You are so funny Keven.
Is it my imagination, or do you just hate me?
No, I don’t hate you, don’t be an infant.
You said that my opinion on the utility of trying KSM was not of value because I am not from NY.
So I am just asking if the rule applies here?
Kev, the rules don’t allow you to name call. Please don’t do that.
He reminds me of one of my brothers, and he sounds so much like him, I’m wondering.
Lighten up.
I think that everyone needs to read the rules again and remember why we started this site in the first place.
Absolutely.
And I want to hear your opinion even if you don’t live in NY.
X4!!!
Fine. I object to having my comments dismissed with “Do you live in NY”.
There. Clear enough?
Please Kev, feel free to discuss the issues you have a problem with but don’t personalize it.
That’s the HuffPo way, not The Planet way.
I never said that. That would be projection on your part.
I continue to question the possibility that NY will absorb some of the costs of trying KSM. It is a valid concern regardless of your stance.
Chas. Schumer said he will request the feds pick up the bill for this.
Why did Schumer have to ask to begin with?
Schumer did the correct thing, he brought the subject up at a hearing in commie with the A.G., Eric Holder. There is a process to move the funds to cover all of the expenses that NYC may incur.
Seriously. As if the Feds are not going to cover the bill.
It is not a question of whether or not NY will absorb some fraction of the cost.
You asked me “Do you live in NY?”
What difference does it make where I live? That is my question to you. Which you seem to have a problem answering.
Javez, I thought I was clear:
I object to having my comments dismissed because I am not a resident of the state the action is happening in.
Well, that is a fine response.
Like I could not have empathy with NY and it’s finances? My state is bankrupt as well. Do you want to have a cry-fest, or shall we just discuss the issues of the day without personalizing them?
What is your problem?
OK, perhaps if you did live in NY you might share some of my angst, given NY is $13Bil in the hole, and our NYSED system is as well.
Was just looking for a some shared sentiment, not trying to attack you as you have clearly posted.
I’ll go away now K7. Hope you are happy.
YIKES
Keven scares the hell out of me.
When he writes them things whereby we’re supposed to converse, well, I wonder if Keven is my brother that lives in California and he disowned me.
Lighten up.
Wow. You should not scare that easy. There are actual reactionaries out there to battle.
K7 and I have gotten into it on issues as well, please don’t take it personally.
Still, we do require that people respect each other while disagreeing on opinions, that applies to everyone including all of the founders. We’re all peers here.
Knock it off, wise guy!
Who? Me? I am just wondering if my opinions count, seeing as I do not live in NY. I for one think that they do.
Now that is not nice.
Just cut and paste this:
Keven: It was wrong of me to question the validity of your opinion based on your residence.
Yes I know that kev, but we all have a choice on how we chose to word our replies, right?
Kalima, I am just explaining that it is not cricket to dismiss people’s comments based on where they live.
Really a small detail.
Excuse me, I thought that we were here to set an example and not be part of the fray.
Maybe I read the wrong memo before we started this site or was it my piss poor eyes?
Fine. Just as long as we don’t get any of this “some of the animals are more equal than the others”.
I had enough of that elsewhere.
Kev, you’re right, the rules apply in both directions.
Let’s get back to issues and not criticisms of other members.
I think we’re only counting opinions from Manhattan, upstate New York is outta luck!
Ha!
I am only mid-Hudson Valley Adlib, so I’m still in this discourse!
You are a good moderator, btw.
Cheers! All good folk here, just like in any relationship, conflicts come up, they need to be dissolved, reconciled and forgotten.
Hudson Valley???? Is that where all the DeSotos are parked?
Adlib, make them play nice.
Hito!!!
Hi!!!
Am out of control and not on topic at all, and thank Cheeses that you are here to save me!
It’s all Gouda!
Hey girlfriend
Good evening sweetie. So glad you are on here. These two women dems and their waffling ways are driving me nutsee cuckoo. What the fuck is wrong with them?
They know they must stand tall, but they are chicken shit.
I have no idea what you are talking about since we don’t have cable TV or satellite.
Took a shower with a few beers under my fat, and fell back into the tub, and had to yell for the hubby to help me.
Oops
And you said earlier that you endeavor to be like me?
I do not think so,
I’m the biggest clumbiest person you’d ever meet in your life,.
I used to be sort of pretty, but I had an accident while sober and totally killed my face!
Thanks anyway, and you have no idea what your words meant to me.
ROFLMAO…I fell in the tub once having a shower..had too much vino before entering.
I laughed for 1/2 hour…kids thought I was nuts. They’re probably correct.
BTW, I read about those two dog dem girls on Huffy this afternoon.
I have cable, but don’t watch much. Would rather read NYT.
Ripped off the shower curtain, and it wasn’t a bad thing because they were rusting the rod.
I’m not grotesquely fat, but weigh 180 pounds, but I’m 5 foot 8 inches, so I carry the extra weight well.
Shit happens. When it is a physical feat, I have learned to laugh and enjoy the moment, especially if I haven’t broken anything.
Hey, we are getting old…you never know what could happen!
I don’t want to over or under emphasize the moment when the Senate voted to start debating and amending the healthcare bill Reid presented. Ever step of this process is history but there are uncharted waters ahead at the same time. While I recognize two very important procedural votes are ahead not even including the final votes it’s going to be difficult to stop the momentum gained for healthcare reform. However, we need to continue to pressure wavering Dems and more importantly kill any poison amendments the GOP and conservadems try and add to the bill.
Again we have the party of NO grasping for relevance claiming they need weeks and weeks of debate even though they will never even vote for cloture on the final bill, not out of duty to their constituents but just for political expediency.
KQ, Well said. We need to keep the pressure on our Reps. and Senators. The debate begins anew Nov. 30. Your Rep will be back in town everyone! If you can, attend any gatering they may have over the break. In the words of Ted Kennedy: The work continues! “
Hi KQ. My one and only post on hp today said something like this:
How is stem cell research going…do we have enough time to grow a spine and insert it into Lincoln?
Nuff said.
PS
Why doesn’t she realize if she doesn’t stand tall, she will have no chance of winning in 2010? Wuss she is. Actually making a stand that will destroy her.
Hey good to see you.
Yup what these squirmy Democratic Senators don’t realize is that showing some conviction towards what Dem voters want matters especially to independent voters. I never understood the mentality of Democrats voting with Republicans since politics has become so caustic the last 30 years. I mean conservative Dems have never been rewarded by voters for acting like Republicans even in more conservative districts and states anyway.
Vote accountability for your constituents, regardless of your electability going forward.
Otherwise, get an Amway territory.
Before everyone disappears, I want to thank you all for a very enjoyable day. I would have been sitting here yelling at the tube by my lonesome without you.
And thanks to nellie for her insight on the process.
Sweet dreams Bito!
And thanks for being my friend!
Good night javaz and take care.
KK
Because of you Kalima, I’m watching the BEEB more. I’m getting hooked on some of the programs.
I am the one always honored to have a friend. I will be here for awhile (until med/bed time.)
My kids and I were gathered around the set and cheering !
My Kids !!!
PastyT, I have no idea how old your kids are, but my first National Campaign was for JFK as a youngster. Life time memory. It inspired me to become involved for the rest of my life in my little attempt to do a bit of good. I wish the same for your children.
Yeh!!!!! Even Liver lips Lieberman voted YES!!!!!!
He knows he can’t back home unless he did, 60% of CT wanted this bill and a public option.
Loved how they used the old rules and had a seated vote!
I’m just wild about Harry…..
Yes, finally he does something right!
Whoopie!!!!
Did anyone hear me???????
Is that what that sound was! đŸ˜‰
Yep, don’t adjust your tv set, it was little old me.
I saw people here describing this as baby steps, I have to disagree when this is the first real change to happen with your broken healthcare system in over 40 years. Let’s not lose sight of this fact please.
I cheer for all of my sick American friends, old and new, I know that it still has a journey before it reaches the President’s desk but heck, look what just happened, most of the Dems voted with their other conscience and it passed.
Loud and clear!
I’m glad I haven’t lost my touch.
Great news, things are changing for sure.
Yup I heard you all the way from Tokyo.
That was my morning voice scream. đŸ˜†
I’m smiling from ear to ear.
I never had a doubt. Piece of cake! đŸ˜† đŸ˜›
That small nun can relax now!
nellie, Write that joke down. We may be needing it on the final cloture vote.
đŸ˜›
Yippie!
A small but significant shuffle in the right direction.
Hey, it’s a start in the right direction, baby steps, baby steps!
A small or big crack in the dam known as our profitcare system will both lead to that dam eventually bursting.
Nice metaphor
1912-2009. Pretty Quick!
SIX ZERO — PASSED!!
That was a lot quicker than I thought it would be.
Well I just went back to C-Span and can’t get the live feed, CNN international is not covering it either, so I’ll hang around here to get the latest news. Good luck everyone, I’ll be cheering so loud when it passes, you will hear me all the way from the other side of the Pacific Ocean.
That’s 60!