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bito
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Thought best to move over here. HC BILL. McCain up now (AGAIN) and asking once again to send the bill back to committee. He wannts nothing less than to kill this bill. He didn’t even show up half the time in the committee meetings to work on the bill!

kesmarn
Admin

It’s almost 2:30 a.m. where I am. I’m finally getting a chance to see what transpired in the “real world” (if DC can be called that) while I was at work, thanks to all of you here. Reading through the hundreds of play-by-play comments made it really come alive. Things are looking better these days. Hope Reid et al can pull it off!

But before I hit my new memory foam pillow, I have to say once more that AdLib is that rare combination of a very capable tech person and an amazing “people person”–namely a very calm, fair, even-handed and even-tempered administrator. You have no idea how much that is appreciated.

Are there ever nights when you go to bed with a giant headache?

Kalima
Admin

Hello kesmarn.

I can’t and won’t speak for him but have a funny feeling that tonight could be one of those nights.

KQµårk 死神
Member

Goodnight. I hope you can get to sleep and feel better in the morning.

AdLib
Admin

kesmarn, your very kind comments are soothing indeed, very appreciated!

BigDogMom
Member
BigDogMom

I’m off too, night all…

Kalima
Admin

Good night BDM, take care and hope to see you later. *wave*

bito
Member

Good night all meds an beds time for me.
Kalima, have a nice Tea Time

Kalima
Admin

Good night bitohistory, I wish you well and thank you.

KevenSeven
Member

Hang on, hang on, hang on!

What? This is not the LAST cloture motion?

This business is killing me.

sharonh
Member
sharonh

I cannot believe not one republican female voted to proceed against a brazenly sexist insurance industry. Shameful.

KevenSeven
Member

They are Republicans. That trumps having a uterus, apparently.

Or having had one. Most of them are rather mature.

javaz
Member

This was fun while it lasted,
Keven is going to be ban me,, so c’est la vie,

Bye

Am banned, so tyvm, and it was a good run

BigDogMom
Member
BigDogMom

Nite javaz, take care.

AdLib
Admin

javaz, Keven can’t ban you, I am the Admin and we don’t ban here. This exchange is very unfortunate but I guarantee all here that I will be working with everyone involved to resolve this, put it behind us and move forward positively.

As I mentioned below, conflicts happen between husbands and wives, parents and kids, best friends and the constructive response is to recognize such moments are inevitable between independently minded people but if they share most of the same sensibilities, it’s just the task of ironing out what happened and putting it behind them.

That’s what will happen in this case.

KevenSeven
Member

Yes, it is unfortunate when people call others assholes.

HITO
Member
HITO

You are not banned. Wish I could show you the thread 3 days after signing in here. K7 told me I was on probation for my conflicts at HP. Adlib set him and I straight.

Javaz, please don’t go anywhere. One thing I’ve learned over the last 3 weeks, that to disappear is not solution. I aborted 4 socks at HP, and I now regret it.

We must keep the fight for the correct going. And you clearly are an important member in that.

Good night sweetness.

See you tomorrow. Promise.

KevenSeven
Member

You might want to drop the violin.

I am not going to ban you.

I am not certain that I could.

But you have no business calling me an asshole.

AdLib
Admin

Only Admin can ban here, meaning me and only for outrageous conduct, none of which has occurred to date.

Name calling is against the rules of conduct here for everyone who blogs here without exception or prejudice.

That includes me too.

KevenSeven
Member

Doo doo head!

Kalima
Admin

K7 can’t ban you javaz.

bito
Member

Good Night, dear one. We will all find our civility on the morn. Sweet dreams.

KQµårk 死神
Member

javaz you are not getting banned. What the hell happened? I go away for a few minutes and all hell breaks out.

KevenSeven
Member

She called me an asshole. Strangely enough, she though that that might have consequences.

bito
Member

I have been here since early this morning. I have gone most of the day having many civil and thoughtful conversations concerning the HC vote. Nary a word about about HP or their posts and comments. It has been enjoyable. In the words of Bret: “Scarlet, I don’t give a shit about HuffPo”

May I suggest, with AdLib’s permission, that every one wanting to discuss the late HuffPo, that they open their own post. Speaker corner?

IMHO
bito

escribacat
Member

Censorship?

AdLib
Admin

Nope, Speakers Corner is for non-news/issue-related articles. It’s open and public like every other category here except the articles posted under it just don’t appear as front page articles, like our Morning Blog which is there right now. It’s an editorial choice to feature POVs on issues of substance on the front page.

I appreciate bitohistory’s suggestion, we do strive to have important issue-based articles on our front page but Authors will always remain free to write articles as they choose.

KevenSeven
Member

Anyway, where were we? Oh, yeah.

The Dem party’s primary initiative just passed the last hurdle, and we will have a bill to defend in 2010.

Me, I think it will go well. With a little luck, KSM will have been convicted by then. That would be cool.

(I passed on that straight line.)

choicelady
Member

Hi all – been out of touch much this week working the DC line to get this to this point. BUT, even though I’ve been talking to some Hill staffers, I’m not so sure this is a done deal. I fear the NEXT cloture vote to move it TO a vote – that’s where Lieberman et al. can screw us if this bill is actually good for people. For some reason, even some Dems don’t seem to think things that benefit people, that reflect our common humanity and responsibility for one another, are nearly so neat as things that make corporations rich. So – someone talk me down! I’ve been working on this daily for MONTHS, and I think I left many of my brain cells on a flight from east to west. Help!

escribacat
Member

Well, choicelady, I’d like to congratulate you and thank you….so far so good anyway! The bill has “died” a thousand deaths already, and it still chugs along. I must be an eternal optimist. I think it would never have made it this far if it wasn’t going to pass. I think some of those slimebags are holding out for some more “candy” in exchange for their votes. I think we’re going to get it passed.

bito
Member

escriba, that is how most legislation is done.
However in my life, I don’t recall congress being so idiotically divided. Maybe close to it on passage of the first civil rights bills

BigDogMom
Member
BigDogMom

This is what the Dems need, some forward positive momentum to give them some confidence in standing up to those dweebs.

HITO
Member
HITO

I don’t need undeserved shit from a poster who clearly has it out for me.

See you later kids.

KevenSeven
Member

It is not permitted to refer to another poster here as an asshole.

KevenSeven
Member

Now that is just naughty.

HITO
Member
HITO

Smoooooch.

And BTW, “Babe” is one of my favorite words.

Hey, I have a brother too…didn’t see him for 17 years, and he’s resurfaced recently. He looks amazingly like the Stockbrocker dude at Huffy.

Javaz, thank you very much for your compassion and understanding. Wasn’t trying to do anything but post relevant concerns relating to my state, which is very much in the shitter compared to bygone days. NY used to be a top contributor to the feds.

🙂

javaz
Member

Let me ask Kevenseven, a question?
Or multiple questions?

Is it really necessary to correct people’s spelling?

Is it really necessary to correct people when you do your weekly seminar to tell them, in not so friendly terms, that they are off topic?

Are you one of the founders of this site?

Lighten up.
Or you are going to lose members.

Lighten up, or you are going to lose valuable people.

KevenSeven
Member

Happy to answer your questions:

Is it “necessary” to correct spelling? No. Let me ask you a question: What sort of adult is wounded by simple corrections of spelling? I don’t write “what, were you home schooled”.

Is it “necessary” to tell people that they are off topic in a discussion that I am leading? (And I was perfectly civil about it) Yes. That is the whole point. To move toward an answer to a question. Answers to other questions do not advance the goal.

Yes, I am one of the charter members of this site.

I don’t know what you mean by “lighten up”. I was asking HITO if she could explain why it matters where I live? But if I hurt your feelings, I am sorry.

I don’t want anyone to leave. But I also don’t want people to challenge the validity of other’s opinions on frivolous and insulting grounds.

You are free to have a differing opinion. This is a political debate site. It is not a universal group hug. We need to be civil to each other, but if you need ointment on your bunions, I may not be the guy to ask.

And calling me an asshole is against the rules. You should not do that.

Kalima
Admin

Kev have you ever considered that the person who you chose to correct, could be dyslexic?

KevenSeven
Member

Well, I suppose that is possible. And seeing as I am not throwing around insults with the occasional correction, I don’t know why it would cause so much pain.

Kalima
Admin

Correcting someone’s spelling on a public blog is demeaning to that person, just my opinion. Sorry.

KevenSeven
Member

My opinion is that one needs to have a very thin skin indeed to be wounded, as an anonymous person, by such a correction from another anonymous person.

But what do I know?

Kalima
Admin

Anonymous or not, there are people like myself who find it unnecessary or even rude. Nothing at all to do with the thickness of one’s skin.

I’m sorry, I was brought up in Europe, maybe we view things differently there.

BigDogMom
Member
BigDogMom

I was worried about ol’fishlips Lieberman, but when I was over at HP, forgive me, the planet seemed to be stuck, then I saw this:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/11/21/806735/-20,000-pledgers-and-$1MM-pledged-if-Lieberman-filibusters-health-care

Gee, now I feel so much better…..

KevenSeven
Member

I love Jon Stewart’s impersonations of him and his whinny mumbling.

BigDogMom
Member
BigDogMom

I love it, he really sounds like that at times…God, he’s my senator….you just can’t imagine how embarrassed I am to admit that.

KevenSeven
Member

I have DiFi, so I think I can relate….

Corgi Lover
Guest

Was amused in my visit to Never Never Land where the junior Rethugs were doing their standard lines. “Well, this is as far as it gets.” Etc. Somehow they need to learn to deal with their disappoints better. Will they all be in front of their altars to Sarah Palin praying for that miracle tonight?

They weren’t even worth commenting to. Of course, neither was much of anyone else there either.

AdLib
Admin

There are still a number of clever and thoughtful folks over there, wish we could convince more to liberate themselves from the unnecessary abuse and repression over there.

I know some think they’re fighting the good fight but I think many here believe that war’s already been lost.

Corgi Lover
Guest

I just observe the patterns and don’t see many of them changing. It’s Huffington’s Desease, highly addicting and difficult to defeat. I think that some of our friends over there really do like the fast paced banter and questionable social behavior they cannot exercise elsewhere. I understand we’re working slowly towards a critical mass, but we aren’t providing some of the “juice” that it seems others crave. Personally, I can do without it here and am much happier. But I admit I go over to roll some heads on occasion.

escribacat
Member

I confess I’m just as addicted as ever. My obsessive personality. But at least it’s better than some other addictions I’ve had in the past! Honestly, I’m more concerned at this point about the amount of time I waste. It’s interfering with other things.

HITO
Member
HITO

Is it me? Can’t refresh fast enough. I’m waiting though…it’s worth it.

KevenSeven