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bito On January - 17 - 2013

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And yet with globalization, we seem to have developed a strange apprehension about the efficacy of our ability to apply the innovation and hard work necessary to successfully compete in a complex security and economic environment. Further, we have misunderstood interdependence as a weakness rather than recognizing it as a strength. The key to sustaining our competitive edge, at home or on the world stage, is credibility — and credibility is a difficult capital to foster. It cannot be won through intimidation and threat, it cannot be sustained through protectionism or exclusion. Credibility requires engagement, strength, and reliability — imaginatively applied through the national tools of development, diplomacy, and defense.

The Y Article

A National Security Narrative

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H/T AB

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Written by bito

Was once a handsome frog until kissed by an ugly corporate princess.----- Like a well honed knife, the internet can be a wonderful and useful tool. It can be used to prepare and serve a delicious meal or it can be used to cause harm. peace

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  1. monicaangela says:

    Genocide has occurred so often and so uncontested in the last fifty years that an epithet more apt in describing recent events than the oft-chanted “Never Again” is in fact “Again and Again.” The gap between the promise and the practice of the last fifty years is dispiriting indeed. How can this be?

    We promised never to watch genocide occur in the world after Rwanda, however, we are yet again watching would amounts to genocide in Israel. The attacks on both sides from Hamas and from Israel is leading to the same thing we saw when Tutsi’s were all but annihilated by the Hutu’s. The Rwandan Genocide was the systematic murder of Rwanda’s Tutsi minority and the moderates of its Hutu majority, in 1994. This was both the bloodiest period of the Rwandan Civil War and one of the worst genocides of the 1990s.

    How can the world stand by and watch an oppressed people fighting for their liberation from occupation be cut off from the rest of the world , herded to the sea by the faction that is occupying them and during the march being systematically killed by their oppressors. Unbelievable, it appears the world is incapable of fairness and definitely incapable of rational thinking.


    Israel continues to bombard the Gaza Strip amidst talks over a ceasefire. Israeli military attacks today include the bombing of Gaza’s sole power plant and the heavy shelling of Khan Younis, killing six people and leaving at least 20 wounded. The Palestinian death toll is near 650, including more than 160 children. More than 4,000 have been wounded. According to Gaza officials, 475 houses have been totally destroyed, and more than 2,600 homes have been partially damaged. Israel has also struck 46 schools, 56 mosques and seven hospitals. Meanwhile, two more Israeli soldiers have been killed, bringing the Israeli military death toll inside Gaza to 29. A farm worker from Thailand also died inside Israel after being hit by rocket fire from Gaza.

    From the Guardian:

    The United Nations Human Rights Council (UNHRC) has agreed to launch an international inquiry into violations that may have been committed during Israel’s latest military offensive in Gaza.

    Navi Pillay, the UN high commissioner for human rights, warned earlier that Israel may have committed war crimes in its offensive against Hamas in the Gaza Strip, where hundreds of Palestinian civilians have been killed in the past two weeks.

    Pillay told an emergency debate at the UNHRC in Geneva that Israel had not done enough to protect civilians.

    “There seems to be a strong possibility that international law has been violated, in a manner that could amount to war crimes,” Pillay said, citing air strikes and the shelling of homes and hospitals. The killing of civilians in Gaza, including dozens of children, raised concerns over Israel’s precautions and its respect for proportionality, she said.

    She also condemned Hamas, the Islamist movement that rules Gaza, and other armed Palestinian groups, for their “indiscriminate attacks” on Israel.

    At the end of an emergency session, the 47-member Geneva state forum adopted a resolution presented by Palestinians by a vote of 29 states in favour, one against (the United States) with 17 abstentions (including some European Union members).
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    The United States “against.” Now let me see, what could possibly be the reason the US would be against and investigation and why would European countries and some others abstain rather than vote yes or no? These questions deserve an answer. Genocide for some I suppose is different than what the word actually means.

    History/origin of the word Genocide:
    1944 the year, the word was apparently coined by Polish-born U.S. jurist Raphael Lemkin in his work “Axis Rule in Occupied Europe,” in reference to Nazi extermination of Jews.

    Just imagine…the oppressed become the oppressor and what they hope to never suffer again, they are haphazardly visiting on another group as though that group does not deserve the considerations the world has given to them. It is as if they suffer from some sort of amnesia when they are the aggressor. UNBELIEVABLE.

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  2. Please sign this petition against Boehner’s ridiculous lawsuit against the president.

    http://dccc.org/Denounce-Boehners-Lawsuit

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  3. Nirek says:

    A mourning dove in flight.

    http://planetpov.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/EK000341.jpg

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  4. Nirek says:

    Okay here is a shameless shout out for my new piece on speakers corner.
    http://planetpov.com/2014/07/18/memories/

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  5. SmotPoker says:

    Hey gang, sorry I missed VOX yet again yesterday. It’s been another rough week here in the Smotpoker household. I can’t seem to shake the infestation of death in my family this last year.

    On Friday my daughter and I had to put down her beloved cat Baby Girl as she had a tremendous amount of liquid in her lungs, and was beyond saving. Every breath was painful for her, and we were forced to say good bye far too soon.

    We got Baby Girl in 2000 while living in Utah when I was still able to work. We had a couple of kittens already, but when I saw Baby Girl in the box in front of a Wal-Mart I knew that I had to take her home. I went to pick up my daughter from some event, time has fogged the exact memory, but I clearly remember my daughter letting out a squeal of delight when she saw the gray fuzzy tale under some blankets in the back seat. She was thrilled to death thinking I had brought one of the other kittens named Lenny along. She was even more thrilled when she discovered that it was in fact Baby Girl under the blanket.

    While it hurts me deeply for her to pass I take comfort knowing that no cat on the planet has had a better home for their entire lives. She never experienced fear, or hunger. She only knew pain at the end of her life. She was pampered as if she were a princess, and she behaved as if she was one. She was loved dearly, and she will be missed just as dearly. I’m down to Lenny left from the old gang. Gone this year are Coco, and Baby Girl. Losing them was incredibly hard, but nowhere near as hard as losing my mother in November.

    The feeling of living at the base of Mt. Shitstorm that erupts with the consistency of Old Faithful is truly getting to be old.

    The cherry on top is that my brother has now been extradited to Florida for breaking his probation, and we have no idea what the future holds for him. He lost his biggest champion, and financier when our mother passed away in November. Dad is tired of his fuck ups, and I can’t say I blame him. Meanwhile I have been “forced” into becoming my brothers champion with my father, taking over the role from my mother. I’ve written my brother off for so long it really bugs me that now I found myself fighting for him with my dad. Not so much fighting as being the voice of reason, forgiveness, and understanding rather than looking to verbally punish him or withdraw all support in his darkest hour. Throw in going deaf in January, and it’s been a real trying time, easily the most difficult of my life.

    To all who read this, thanks for taking the time to listen to my mini rant. I’m just emotionally, and physically exhausted, and needed to let something out even if it’s online to strangers. I’m in no danger emotionally so relax. I may feel like the shit never ends, but I’ve never stopped trying before, and I ain’t ready to just yet either. The problem with being a lone wolf is that when you do need an ear they can be pretty hard to find…

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    • pinkpantheroz says:

      Smot, you may be a lone wolf out there, but here you’ve got a pack who are family. So spill it all anytime, you’ll always have an ear to bend! We all go through rough patches (maybe not as traumatic as yours), but I’m convinced that here at POV, we’ll always find a friend to share. Take care of yourself and go get another kitty.

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    • SueInCa says:

      Smot I think I knew you over at HP? I remember talking with someone over there with a similar name about “E Cigs”. I sure hope things get better for you. Nothing as bad as feeling like your world is coming apart. I will think positive thoughts for you,

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      • SmotPoker says:

        It’s very possible Sue, as I did frequent HP before the December purge requiring verified FB account which will NEVER happen with me. Thanks for the kind thoughts, and have fun here on POV. It’s a real hoot if a bit slower than HP or others it more than makes up for with quality. Yes, I am quite informed about E-cigs, and tried to help others that were curious from time to time. They allowed me to quit smoking for over 3 years.

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    • Nirek says:

      Smot, you can always “rant” here. This place is for us by us and we are willing to lend an ear.

      Very sorry to here about baby Girl. I have had to do the same with a few of our cats who were part of the family, too. The hardest thing I ever did was to get a vet to put down my Morgan horse. My wife and I had tears flowing and so did the vet.

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      • SmotPoker says:

        Thanks guys. No time to chat of course. I just got a Skype from my kid that her car broke down so I got to go deal with that….

        Bwuahahahahaha!

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    • EXFANOFARIANA says:

      You will never be alone..Your digital family will ALWAYS be here to lean on.I’ve had the same experience last week.Ha to put down my Adam -- only one year old -- for, in January when he came to my house (yes, all my cats were adopted from irresponsible owners and came directly to my house. Such a muscular cat….only 3 months old.Had him tested last January for Feline Leukemia.Fucking substitute doctor told me negative.Then he started losing weigh in a frightening way .Bear in mind: I also have 4 other cats.Took him to my real vet and guess what? POSITIVE.Now I am testing all of them, results will be in next week for I asked my vet to give me sometime.Had to immediately put him to sleep, holding him on my lap. I also lost my mum recently.And 5 years ago my athlete brother, never smoked never drunk to a brain cancer -- the last time he was here told me:”little sis this shit will kill you”.Yeah, I smoke organic tobacco. I don’t know what is your brother issue but if it’s the same as my younger one, he is also a crack head having been committed all over the world to the best clinics…..So much money down the drain.Sometimes I feel utterly pissed off and beg him to take an overdose…..But immediately after I call him and beg him not to.My support he will always have.MONEY NOT.He inhaled about 4 apartments…..but at least he works to support his addiction .gawd knows how he keeps his job.
      Shoot me an email if you ever feel like venting.I do it here all the time.xoxo Hang in there.You have us here.IMHO get out and adopt another one.I am sure it’s what Baby Girl would love.

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  6. Why don’t we continue here for the time being?

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    • glenn says:

      KT--I’m having the same problem as PPO. Some of my posts are making it, and some are not. I’ve logged in and out a couple of times, and it seems the first ones I post make it; subsequent posts do not make it. Also, I just logged in again, and I’m not getting tonight’s VOX when I click on the VOX tab. So, I’ll be glad to continue here on OT tonight. To comment on your post re the republicans and the airline crash; here is the reply I sent to you on VOX that didn’t make it. Keep in mind, my potty mouth comes out when I am tired as I am tonight. What in the hell is wrong with republicans? Does everything have to be PBO’s fault? Do they have to politicize everything? Jesus H. Christ, I don’t understand these mother***ers! Don’t they see the damage they are doing to our country?

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      • EXFANOFARIANA says:

        Meanwhile Glen, I just got an email from DCCC:

        Amazing Numbers (THANK YOU!)‏

        There’s nothing more headache-inducing to John Boehner than YOU.

        If you get these emails (which of course you do), you’re part of the greatest group of grassroots Democratic supporters this country has ever seen.

        Boehner and his government shutdown Republicans have made it their mission to destroy Barack Obama’s Presidency — and you are wrecking that mission!

        Since Boehner announced his frivolous lawsuit plan attacking the President, your response has been monumental (and absolutely devastating to Boehner). Just take a look at these numbers:

        211,503: That’s the incredible surge of online donations that have come in to Democratic headquarters since Boehner announced his lawsuit.

        $4,020,515: That’s how much that adds up to (WOW!). That money will go directly to supporting Democratic candidates in the most critical races around the country.

        443,071: That’s how many people have added their signature to our petition denouncing Boehner’s absurd lawsuit.

        But Boehner hasn’t given up on this legal assault yet, but there’s no doubt he regretting his actions.

        Every signature, every donation, every action you take is another thorn in the side of the obstructionist Republicans. And while they try to destroy the President’s agenda, you’re fighting back and clearing the way for progress.

        Thank you for everything you do,

        DCCC

        P.S. Real quick — While Boehner is still pushing his legal assault against the President forward, we’re pushing for 500,000 signatures standing against him. You’ve already added your name (thanks!), Can you share the link below and ask three of your friends to sign on too?

        http://www.dccc.org/Denounce-Boehners-Lawsuit

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  7. Is there going to be a VOX this evening?

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  8. Kalima says:

    To all of you who have kindly replied to my comments I would like to say that I will get back to you as soon as I can, I promise.

    It’s been a difficult week and when I find my equilibrium, I’ll be back.

    Thank you and take care. See you soon.

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  9. EXFANOFARIANA says:

    Why aren’t we talking about this extraordinarily sad attack?

    http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/07/18/buk-missile-launcher/

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    • Kalima says:

      Hi ExFan, it would have been top news in my MB but I couldn’t post on Thursday.

      Heard that pro-Russia thugs found one of the Black Boxes and took it to Moskau, that alone will cause an international uproar. Putin’s goose is cooked.

      The latest :

      Airliner hit from rebel area -- Obama

      US President Barack Obama says a surface-to-air missile fired from a rebel-held area of Ukraine brought down Malaysia Airlines flight MH17.

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-28378388

      —-

      Cover-up: Ukraine rebels destroying all links to MH17 air atrocity

      http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/18/separatist-links-malaysia-airlines-mh17-removed

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      • EXFANOFARIANA says:

        Read that too.But what will Europe do? Germany, France the UK and others depend on f*cking Russian gas….And Putin KNOWS the game he is playing…..My guess is the cancervatives will be pressing PBO to attack Russia.And I sincerely hope he again, does not listen to the chicken-hawks. Majority of the deceased were Dutch.Holland had an immense amount of gas as well…..Canada and China will not be please too.But will it be enough to force them to act????

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    • Hey EX. Where should we begin? Not a whole lot is known yet. We do know that it was definitely shot down, and not an accident. What we don’t know for sure is who did this, probably the separatists, but if so, they may have mistaken that plane for a military cargo plane. We just don’t know for sure at this point.

      The next question would be, what should the U.S. do about this? If we act too hastily, as the GOPTP wants to do (of course) we could start something much worse than the plane being downed and get far more people killed. I’m just glad I’m not president Obama right now.

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      • EXFANOFARIANA says:

        There is a video which, I’ve asked my Russian friend to translate. It WAS the separatists…..Putin is a “puta”….Only interested on his goons oligarchs..The same behavior the CONservatives are trying to do to your country.The US should stay away.WE, Europeans must act. The majority were Dutch folks. Let Europe sold our issue. Putin will be assassinated…The European Union are trying to buy -- especially Germans -- their energy supplies from Brazil..Yet, the international cartel of bankers and big money???????Not sure.Orwell was so right.We are all fuc*ed….Pardon my French.This shit will hit the fan soon.Same scheister with the Israel and Hamas. The latter, should not be allowed to govern anything.They are a bloody team….Plus, as I’ve mentioned before, 55 million refugees around the world is a big conundrum…
        (P.S AdLib…..I will be contributing again Sunday.Someone from abroad hacked my card. ) LOVIES…

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  10. SueInCa says:

    When, in the next two years, you hear Ted Cruz being floated for President, remember this post and share it far and wide. Cruz’s mother was supposedly a US Citizen, he can run for President. He has been annointed, along with Palin, to be the “transferer of money to the righteous” You know that is not us.

    http://www.talk2action.org/story/2013/10/16/143336/01/Front_Page/Cruz_Father_Suggests_Ted_Cruz_quot_Anointed_quot_to_Bring_The_Spoils_Of_War_To_The_Priests_

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    • sillylittleme says:

      His father just became a citizen. Why? So he can spout this crap? Another in a long line of “give the preacher your money to assure a spot in heaven”…..

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    • Nirek says:

      Sue, I bookmarked it so we can bring it out whenever Cruz is in the “news”. I agree we need to shine a light on this kind of $hit! Cruz is nothing but an idiot! He is no king, that is for sure.

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    • Holy Jeebus, what stupidity. This article really exemplifies the dangerous beliefs of these insane people.

      When did America adopt a monarch system of government? I must have been asleep that day.

      Thanks for posting it Sue. Yes, every sane American needs to see this and learn just who Cruz really is and what he really stands for.

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  11. The Right’s Favorite New Quack: Terri Lynn Weaver’s Dangerous Baby “science”

    Doctors say a new Tennessee law targeting pregnant women is nuts. But this GOP lawmaker has her own ideas.

    “Tennessee is the first state in the nation to have a law criminalizing pregnancy outcomes. The state’s pregnancy criminalization law was signed in April and went into effect this month. Under the new policy, prosecutors can now charge a woman with criminal assault if she uses narcotics during her pregnancy and — according to the language of the law — her fetus or newborn is considered “addicted to or harmed by the narcotic drug.”

    http://www.salon.com/2014/07/17/the_rights_favorite_new_quack_terri_lynn_weavers_dangerous_baby_science/

    This is downright sick! Jailing people for having substance abuse problems is never a good idea. Jailing mothers of newborn babies is simply despicable. What fucking century are we living in?

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    • EXFANOFARIANA says:

      Fucking hell…..what ELSE can these hillbillies think about???

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    • VegasBabe says:

      On the front it does sound a bit barbaric but you know what KT, I’m not entirely sure I disagree. The sheer miracle of conception should not be marred with chemical agents. IF a woman acknowledges her dependence, she should be required by law instead to enter a treatment program immediately. Once she gives birth to hopefully a healthy child, then she can return to the lifestyle if she so desires having however rec’d counseling on birth control. why must it be automatically barbaric to criminalize a woman who helps to damage the health and welfare of her unborn? I support a woman’s right to abort, but to inflict pain and suffering on a child does seem criminal. At the end of the day, it’s about choices,is it not?

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      • sillylittleme says:

        VB, we need age appropriate sex ed. We need contraception that is easily and cheaply available. We also need a society that doesn’t kick people when they need help. What would be the outcome of pregnant women being jailed? Do you think that is a healthy environment for pre-natal treatment? How about after the baby is born? Who will raise the child?

        We need to take a serious look at why so many in our society turn to drug use.

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      • Oh, I totally agree that a pregnant woman should not ingest anything that might harm the baby or slow it’s development, in the womb or outside the womb. But jailing such women IS barbaric. The mere idea is despicable to me.

        Fetal addiction is not fatal and can be treated successfully. That doesn’t mean that pregnant women should ignore the dangers to the child. But people are never perfect and don’t always do the right thing.

        You mentioned treatment, and that is the only rational and humane way to go.

        Separating mother from child only causes more harm to both. Newborns need to be close to their mothers. They need their mother’s milk to help their immune systems.

        You should read the entire article, if you haven’t already and I think you will see my point much clearer.

        Just locking up the mother and putting a child in a foster home is the worst way of dealing with these problems.

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    • foodchain says:

      KT I think the books will write about this time as the dark ages: the past clinging desperately to some type of history that made them safe (? how is that possible)

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      • I know that any woman who votes for anybody in the GOPTP is out of her mind. The sheer number of laws passed and laws proposed by the GOPTP that treat women like 2nd class citizens is astounding.

        They do not like women, except as baby makers and house keepers. Their disdain for women and minorities will really be their downfall.

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        • Nirek says:

          KT, the GOtP doesn’t like women, people of color, gays, or immigrants. They love the RICH white people, and idiots like Cruz, Palin, and the rest of the TP jerks.

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  12. SueInCa says:

    From Politicus Today:

    There is an inconvenient truth Americans are going to have to come to grips with even though it is painful; no amount of signatures on a petition equals one vote at the ballot box, one vote in either house of Congress, or will overturn a Supreme Court decision. One wants desperately to believe that Americans understand the gravity of the Supreme Court setting a precedent that, in effect, can abolish legally passed laws and eliminate long-standing protections in the United States Constitution, but sadly that is not the case. If the American people were aware that only through their votes could they affect change, it is possible that a close vote in 2000 would not have given the Supreme Court the opportunity to appoint George W Bush as president who followed his father’s footsteps and installed two hardline religious corporatists on the High Court.

    http://www.politicususa.com/2014/07/17/democrats-stop-signing-useless-petitions-start-voting.html

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  13. monicaangela says:

    Chinese food scandals have made media headlines for years now. From deadly melamine in milk products to harmful honey, China has long allowed toxic food products (and other dangerous exports) to leave its borders. Most American media and the U.S. government have not made enough effort to inform the public that food from China may be dangerous and is rarely inspected by the Food and Drug administration.

    http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/231731-top-5-imported-foods-from-china-you-should-avoid/?photo=2

    Check your food labels – IMPORTANT!

    And don’t forget that Smithfield Farms, the largest pork producing farm in the USA was sold in September to China with the unanimous support of its stockholders!! The hogs will still be raised here, but slaughtered and packaged for sale there before being sent back here. This includes labels: of Morrell, Eckrich, Krakus, Cudahy, Premium Hams, Cook’s, Gwaltney. The same with many chickens. They can now be shipped there, but when they come back all that needs to be labeled is that they… WERE RAISED IN THE USA. Not that they were processed in China!!! Our great FDA at work again. The chickens will be all processed and most sold to fast food restaurants for sandwiches, along with schools and supermarkets. The China slaughter and processing are not nearly equal – and, by far -- to the requirements here.

    We recently learned that Starkist Tuna is now owned by Korea, and is in big conflict with the U. S. concerning quality, safety, and records, which Korea refuses to produce.

    How is it possible to ship food from China cheaper than having it produced in the U. S. or Canada?

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  14. monicaangela says:

    The Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act (FATCA) is a United States federal law that requires United States persons, including individuals who live outside the United States, to report their financial accounts held outside of the United States, and requires foreign financial institutions to report to the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) about their U.S. clients. Congress enacted FATCA to make it more difficult for U.S. taxpayers to conceal assets held in offshore accounts and shell corporations, and thus to recoup federal tax revenues.[1] The FATCA is a portion of the 2010 Hiring Incentives to Restore Employment (HIRE) Act.

    This is a part of HR 2847, the bill the GOP claims is going to collapse the American dollar.

    Read more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Account_Tax_Compliance_Act

    and here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiring_Incentives_to_Restore_Employment_Act

    Was anyone aware of this Bill going into effect on July 1, 2014? I have to admit, this one got by me and I am going to have to do a little more investigating, but I would suggest we all begin to pay a bit more attention to the value of the dollar in this nation and occurrences that could change drastically the way we are forced to live because of depreciation of the dollar.

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    • funksands says:

      Monica, like you I’d forgotten that this particular bill was set to begin enforcement this July. That said, I can unequivocally state that I don’t see any possible way, real or imaginary that requiring foreign financial institutions to report the financial assets of US citizens will cause a collapse in the dollar.

      Shady investment firm scare tactics aside, forcing disclosure of an estimated $700 billion in offshore holdings is not going to collapse a $17T economy or devalue our currency in any way shape or form.

      Switzerland
      The UK
      Denmark
      Canada
      Mexico are among several other countries are also implementing their own country’s version of FATCA this month

      There are dozens of other countries still in the legislative process of implementation, but have signed on to the agreement in principle.

      Not that the bill is perfect, but it is the first attempt to address the very real issue of capital flight of US citizens and corporations to avoid taxes, and like any complex bill needs to be adjusted and tweaked as situations arise.

      The Treasury put out a “Myth vs. FATCA” a while back that tried to address these issues. http://www.treasury.gov/connect/blog/Pages/Myth-vs-FATCA.aspx

      I think Snopes had a good take on it as well.
      http://www.snopes.com/politics/conspiracy/hr2847.asp

      COULD it cause some Americans to renounce their citizenship to avoid disclosing their foreign assets? Maybe. Good riddance.

      COULD it cause some investment firms to not allow Americans to open up foreign brokerage accounts? It already has.

      COULD it be more trouble and cost that its worth? Potentially.

      But this is a common theme amongst the ultra-wealthy and their minions: “Don’t do this because it will be so costly and onerous, something terrible will happen. Better to do nothing1″

      I’ve heard that refrain before…

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