And now for something completely different…
…a GOP debate!
The GOP candidates debate tonight on CNBC at 5:00pm PST/8:00pm EST.
This may be a very interesting debate, not due to the tired talking points they will all spout but due to the changing currents and momentum in the GOP field.
With the ongoing sexual harassment scandal, Cain looks to be going down for the count as even an outside possibility for the nom so a position to the right of Mitt Romney in the Tea Party’s musical chair is opening up. Who will step up in this debate to take that seat? Will Perry make a comeback? What about everyone’s favorite reptile, Newt? Is it Rick Santorum’s turn at the front of the Crazy Parade?
They may come out throwing elbows tonight to grab that anti-Romney vote so move all the breakables from around your tv and join us here for an evening of yelling at the tv and live blogging!
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ROMNEY AND GINGRICH-
HARDER TO HAVE BEEN MORE WRONG….
The General Verdict by the Media Punditry
—Romney was self assured and confident
—Gingrich was well spoken and provided complex answers….
Thanks for the in-depth analysis
BUT THEY WERE BOTH EITHER LYING, OVER-SIMPLIFYING, OR STALLING ALMOST EVERY TIME
Their positions on the auto industry re-financing (shouldn’t have done it) while standing in the state of Michigan was outrageous…
Their positions on the housing collapse (let the market rule- no restructuring, no refinancing, needs to collapse) was incredibly calloused and insensitive….
Their failure to recognize the nature of the global economy as one of deeply entwined national markets, government deficits, trade etc. was foolishly nationalistic or just plain pandering to the crowd. ….
Neither mentioned the sources of the recession unless they could pin the blame on Obama or his allies- nothing about the monster deficit from the Bush Years that became the mega-monster debt of the Obama years….
Nothing about the dangers of too little regulation, or supervision….in fact cries for even less of both…
ND what about the suggestion that we should start a currency and trade war with the first place holder of the nation’s debt, China (followed by Japan, he UK, OPEC, Brazil, the Caribbean Banking Consortium).
Romney’s business career was one of grabbing up companies, tearing them down to their most profitable core and then selling them.
Gingrich has never been in business (except that of marketing himself through his pointless faux-net company).
FINALLY….Did you notice that the entire group seem to be both blind and deaf to the real needs of real people in the middle and lower class?
The only people they addressed are the job makers, the business community, the investors…..they are the only ones they actually see or hear.
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BTW nothing shows conservative enthusiasm is waning more than RedState not even doing an open comment story on the GOP debate. I’m telling you folks the GOP voters are not happy at all with these candidates.
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The final take from the CNBC live blog:
By: Mark Koba
Senior Editor
http://www.cnbc.com/id/45120551
HUH?
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I think a winner is going to be Jon Stewart. He is having so much fun with Cain’s press conference yesterday, I can’t wait to watch him tomorrow on the debate and Perry!
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It sounds to me the clear winner in all these debates is President Obama and the Dems. The more these characters debate the more absurd they sound compared to the standing president. If I was the Repug strategist I would tell them to scale back the debates.
My new prediction is the the GOP nomination process will be virtually over in a month when Romney wins a plurality of the vote in most of the primaries. As bad as Romney is, he’s the only candidate not shooting himself in the foot all the time. The GOP will be satisfied with his ridiculous attacks on Obama like he does not want business to make profits when they are making record profits.
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I don’t know if anyone has posted this here, but it’s pretty funny – the debate in 68 seconds and the meltdown by Perry. I didn’t watch the debate, but the 68 second video told me all that I need to know.
http://theobamadiary.com/2011/11/09/the-gop-debates-in-68-seconds/#comments
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I was monitoring our twitter account when this one happened and wow, did they go wild. After the last 10 days of his denying the sexual harassment charges he comes out with this? “Princess Nancy”? Why didn’t he just say “that bitch Pelosi” and reinforce what many can see, his disrespect of women?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fOe5kxQHWoo
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Bito, he certainly showed his colors to me with that. That is why I wish Nancy being on the Daily Show tonight had taped after the debate. Would be interested in her comment.
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Sabreen, this is hysterical! Thanks! I couldn’t bring myself to watch tonight, but like you, this told me everything I really need to know!
Okay guys, what else did I miss besides Perry completely losing it?
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Romney has never flipped or flopped on women’s reproductive rights, right!
This is Mitt’s 2002 Planned Parenthood questionnaire.
http://yfrog.com/z/oc6u1p
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Romney also recently said when questioned by Huck, if he would support the “Personhood” bill that states life begins at conception. Romney’s answer “ABSOLUTELY”. It’s on video and Rachel showed it tonight.
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Ha. And to think, he always sought Planned Parenthood’s endorsement when he ran for office in Massachusetts! But as soon as he realized he couldn’t be the GOP nominee for President if he were “too pro-choice”, he then became “Conservative of Conservatives” and declared he was “always pro-life”. And this year, he went beyond just outlawing abortions. He also declared he wants ALL forms of birth control illegal and criminalized!
I wonder what the folks at Planned Parenthood of Massachusetts think of Mittens now…
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Yup and now his camp is spinning that he did not say that and did not like the wording of the referendum.
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Romney has flipped flopped so much he doesn’t know which way to turn now that will put his own butt to the rear.
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Wow. Who could trust someone who flops that wildly? He’s catering to the teabaggers.
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Ah, Multiple Choice Mittens!
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He always selects “all of the above”.
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Just wait 24 hours, and Mittens will agree with you… And in another 24 hours, he won’t!
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The moderators were good, but the format still fails. There needs to be more time for following up and holding feet to the fire.
Also, I say do away with the stoopit partisan audience.
17 more GOP debates? I dunno that my liver will hold out.
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I thought that 17 number was a joke….isn’t it?
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Nope. (cue evil laugh)
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Night all, I have had enough of the GOP for one day. Sleep well everyone
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“I have had enough of the GOP for one day”
So let’s please, please, PLEASE (!!!) make sure we don’t get them for four long, dreadful years.
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G’night, Sue. Maybe taking an Ativan will prevent those pesky GOP nightmares. “Which departments am I going to eliminate again?…Help meeeeee….Uncle Ronnie Paul….saaaave me…..!”
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I typically find an evening of phone banking does wonders to heal me after watching a boatload of crap like that.
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Sweet dreams, if possible after that!
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Night, Susie. Sorry though, the GOP doesn’t last just a day. They will unfortunately be around tomorrow. Get plenty of rest!
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I could never do a GOP debate. I would spend too much time asking for explanations of their wacky ideas, then taking a bottle of adavan to calm myself down.
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That would surely work. After taking Atavan, a person could be sitting in a burning building and wouldn’t even care! I used to call “so whats.”
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Wow my daughter has some, I am gonna take one lol
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It might be just the ticket after tonight’s debate!
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Be sure to bring enough for all of us, Sue.
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Hell I am bringing the whole pharmacy
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The next debate the audience will boo the moderator if he/she asks Gov. Perry ANY questions. They are nothing but loyal.
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I think the GOP has gone into a debate overdose. The more debates they have, the dumber each candidate shows themselves to be. They should be trying to hide these cretins as much as possible!
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No, no, no! These GO(o)Pers need to keep debating. We need to hear MORE of their insanity and stupidity! Americans need to be constantly reminded of the G-O-TEA’s complete lack of interest in any sort of sound governance.
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KT, only 17 more to go. How much new ground do they think they’ll cover? I predict zero.
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Man, the GOP should keep these dunces as far from the limelight as possible. They really are showing their ass to America, and it ain’t pretty!
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Ouch!
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KT, that never gets old does it?
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Not when the GOPTP is concerned! LOL!
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Oh, Gov Perry, when was that taken?
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LOL, thought so, KT.
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Shortly after tonight’s debate?
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Its really not fair to the other candidates when Gov. Perry breaks out the extra-large knuckles.
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Well, Gov. Perry, this debate has wrapped you up like a Mummy. They are just waiting for the sarcophagus to arrive to ship you home to Texas.
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He’s finished.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZlGPhntPaU&feature=feedu
yes he is… that would be hilarious if I were not from Texas.
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Wow. It’s even worse watching it the second time! He’s a disgrace and an embarrassment to the nation.
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Perry, “throw me a bone here, will you guys?” Lights are on, but no one is home!
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Cain, “Europe is suffering from the same thing we are suffering.” Yes, Cain, they are…..GOLDMAN SACHS!
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Well, that was possibly the worst debate so far. The moderators just didn’t know how to nail the liars and evaders that are the GOP field.
I mean, Herman Cain is allowed to answer a question about how to stop manipulation of the stock market by saying “999″ and “Grow the economy”? Cramer tried but you can’t just yell at them they’re being evasive, you need to put them on the defensive and Cramer failed.
Poor debate performance by all involved and smarmy Mitt lied his ass off trying to appear moderate yet RW. Still, he has now cemented his 25% support even firmer.
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The field is still too large to do as you suggest. When will it shrink or is keeping it large part of the money strategy.
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Ad, that’s because people on CNBC only know how to cheerlead. They are a bit rusty at these other….skills…
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Why am I kinda bummed out by this spectacle? I think it’s partly because the prospect — even the remote prospect — of ANY of them becoming president is so…just…awful.
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Kes, my wife has already told me she’s moving to Australia if any of them win. She’s had it.
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funk, my kids have their eyes on Canada!
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I think there would be a move on/out the country like there was on moving your money out of the big banks. Hey, that would cover both!
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Scary thought for sure kes!
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I may be “catastrophizing,” KT. (Am good at that.) But I think it could be the end. Finis.
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It may be just enough to bring on Armageddon!
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Even if one of them doesn’t become president, it’s really depressing that such a big chunk of the USA believes they should.
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e’cat, I think you just put your finger on it. In one sentence. It says something grim about the country.
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E-cat, they aren’t voters anymore, they’re parishioners.
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escribacat, There it is. The type of person the GOP supports is depressing on it’s face. That these people think they can be president is a big step away from reality and that they are supported by anyone is depressing. Kinda makes you wonder what credentials they would want in a teacher–or maybe that’s why home schooling is becoming popular.
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But, Food, they are the ones mostly teaching their children at home. Scary!!!!
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Sally, I saw a sign at a TP rally that said this;
“I Support Home Scholling!” I kid you not!
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You hear the newest flip flop on Romney. Now he says he did not support the MS personhood referendum. The guy is a complete sociopath. I really just don’t know how anyone takes him seriously.
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If no one knew of Mitt’s serial contradictions he might come off as a plausible candidate — for a Republican, anyway.
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