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Why GOP Leaders Aren’t Worried About Throwing the Affordable Care Act Under the Bus

Okay, CL. You’re right. We are on the same side of the aisle and almost in the same neighborhood. I live in Fair Oaks off of Fair Oaks Blvd and Madison.

I taught in Del Paso Heights in the center of poverty, drugs, sad, sad situations. I loved my students; I loved my colleagues. I taught in the North Sacramento School District which merged with Rio Linda and two other shcools. It’s now Twin Rivers School District with its famous police department (you know, shootouts on the streets).

Murph helped me put this together. He’s so brilliant it’s scary. We’ve been communicating for a couple of hears on HP; I know that’s a sensitive subject, but I wanted to give you some background.

I did watch the events at CalExpo. Imagine people arriving at 7am and staying overnight to be able to get the care they need. The idea that people have to rely on “free” to survive is heartbreaking. You have no idea how much I learned by teaching in that environment. What I witnessed in every underdeveloped country I worked in I saw in my own. Each Christmas, the Granite Bay High School seniors gathered up their used clothing and other unwanted things and donated them to our students. It was a Romney-like charity event that made those little millionaire students feel so much better on Christmas day when they got the keys to their new SUVs. Each year the superintendent wrote in his Christmas message how “grateful” our students should be. In my first year, I literally exploded in the faculty meeting…couldn’t believe it. The message, I told my fellow teachers, that we send our students is “second hand is good enough for you.” It is not, it never was, it never will be.

I’m enjoying POV and spent some just navigating the site since I still don’t know how I got to where I am or why I’m there. I’m still shaky on the VP night, but with time I will soon monopolize the conversation.

Good to hear from you CL.

Bourne

» Posted By BourneID On April 11, 2012 @ 1:31 pm

Hi AdLib

Yes, rather discouraging, isn’t it? I’m left speechless every day as I read and hear the trash talk from that group of infidels (I think this word actually fits). John Boehner and company have consistently demonstrated their inabiity to govern – a price the country pays for dearly as we continue our descent into the black hole of ignorance.

Your idea of a Constitutional amendment is very attractive. I would change only one thing – waste no time on recall but give the people the power to fire on the spot. Somehow we forget they work for us, a fact they forget the moment they’re sworn in. Power is an aphrodisiac – unfortunately, we’re the most available.

Bourne

» Posted By BourneID On April 11, 2012 @ 12:38 pm

Hope your continuing work on this in view of the headlines that Supreme Court justices may have “misunderstood” the healthcare bill. Timely subject that needs to be kept full view.

Check google.

Bourne

» Posted By BourneID On April 11, 2012 @ 12:25 pm

Good mornign CL

I assumed that we live in the same area as your mentioned in one of your posts that you’re a lobbyist. That pretty much puts in the Sacramento area.

SUTTER is not my provider; Catholic Healthcare West (CHW), the Mercy hospitals and clinics. All of the figures I used in the article are are taken directly from the Physician Statements and billings I’ve received for hospital care. I quoted the specific costs related to TOTAL CHARGES, PLAN ALLOWANCE, YOUR COST (which I refer to as My Cost.

Your information is quite interesting in that it appears BC/BS negotiates costs individually with each care provider. OPM is very good at negotiating, as is the entire US Government. It pays its bills. When I moved from the federal investigative side of the aisle to budget, I learned a great deal about the procurement process since it was my responsibility to fund contracts…but that’s another subject.

I’m not sure we’re on the same side of the aisle on some issues. There are many irresponsible people out there – some in my family who haven’t yet learned to take responsibility for their actions and lives; disappointing but seems to fit the description of your friend’s son. My issue with the loss of the ACA is with the people who were employed, who had and helped pay for their own health insurance; lost there jobs and have literally been “thrown under the bus.” They don’t deserve that and Congress and SCOTUS who now decides hold the health of an entire nation in their increasingly incapable hands disturbs me. This was not in the report, but during my extensive research, I came upon informaiton about the retirement benefits of the Justices of the Supreme Court that knocked my socks off. The Justices, if they have served a full 10 years, at retirement will receive, for the remainder of their lives, the equivalent of their full annual pay. At this moment, the Chief Justice is paid $223,000 per annum and the other 8 are paid $213,000 per annum – this they will receive for the remainder of their lives in addition to their health care benfits. I can’t imagine a “worthier” recipient than Justice Thomas.

If you choose to open the links, you’ll find supporting documents for the position I take on the ACA. One of particular interest, and unknown to me and many others, I discovered quite by accident while researching the Blue Cross/Blue Shield manual related specfically to the federal employee plan. It was a very small paragraph at the top of a page re PCIP, the Pre-existing Condition Insurance Plan administered by the US Government. It is avaialable in only 20 states – don’t know why. I found it online, made a link, and included it, There are many people who cannot acquire health insurance because of pre-existing conditions.

We see healthcare and government and define them in terms of rillions of dollars; the paralyzed Congress can speak of nothing else. But within those trillions of dollars are the sums paid to thousands of businesses that provide goods and servies, from weapons s;ystems to paper clips. And no, I’m not a pollyanna or apologist. I just have a serious problems with how we’re removing classifying people who need help, whether food or healthcare, as burdens. I taught school in Del Paso Heights. I think you know what that is.

Thanks CL for reading the article.

Talk to you VP.

Bourne

» Posted By BourneID On April 11, 2012 @ 6:01 am

Is This Democracy – ALEC?

Hi 19th. Welcome. I’m no longer the newest kid on the block. Your post was excellent and from a registered Republican to a raging liberal, be assured I’m with you. Love Obama; worked for him in 2008; working for him this year.

I haven’t changed registration because CA primary lists both partys’ candidates in the primary, and because I LOVE adding when I’m commenting about the disgraceful congress that, “I’m a registered Repubican and I”m ashamed of Boehner and his Gang.” Feels good actually.

Enjoy doing you’re taxes. I reserve the entire day of April 14.

Bourne

» Posted By BourneID On April 5, 2012 @ 6:41 pm

Hi CL. I didn’t know you’re a fellow Californian.

I know that HuffPost is not the most popular place on the planet, but I agree with you completely about keeping all the Dems we can to bring sanity back to the country.

I’m new here and at HuffPost as well, but I will not just walk away from an exchange with someone who clearly argues the GOP line. I’ve found a lot of success in inviting mutual fanning so we continue the discussion, which is important to all of us, and also adding that I find as much value in hs/her opinion as I find in mine. I’ve gained a few friends that way and have had some interesting conversations. I find the really conservative posters to be uninformed, rude, almost nasty and really quite insecure in how far they will take a discussion. I don’t want to behave like them.

Tuesday, I had a similar experienced an exchange involving mutual disagreement over the president and, after three posts, the person who is now a friend, wrote that it was a great experience having a discussion with a reasonable adult and that person’s goal is to try to do a better job explaining his/her views rather than leaving insulting comments. I think most people are willing to listen – not just hear – but listen. And I may not agree with a point of view, but I do understand we are all the product of our experiences, educations, jobs, friends..

I like your comments; thanks. I’m in Sacramento. You’re a lobbyist. Do you spend much time at the state legislature?

Bourne

» Posted By BourneID On April 5, 2012 @ 6:31 pm

Weekend Music Thread – Try a Little Tenderness

Hey there, AdLib,

Wonderful suggestion and great music titles.

I had asked you about my posting an article re the health care issue now in the hands of the Supreme Court, but I’ve decided not to. I was going to offer some information regarding the Federal Employee Health Plan (FEHP), which I am sincerely grateful and blessed to have, as the President’s plan is based substantially on FEHP. Not that either Congress or SCOTUS are willing to tell the general public, but they enjoy the same amazing coverage as do all federal civilian employees.

Imagine, those same representatives who want to take health care from the citizens will lose NOTHNG because their own coverage is secure. They could not care less that they’re throwing everyone under the bus. SCOTUS, on the other hand, which also enjoys the same helath coverage AND retires at the highest pay level they reached while serving ($238,000 for the justices and $248,000 per annum for the Chief Justice)is the annual retirement they will receive for the remainder of their lives. How do you feel about paying Clarence Thomas a quarter of a million dollars a year plus almost free health care?

I did a great deal of research on the subject, added to what I’ve known and enjoyed for many years and will be happy to send some of the links to you if you are interested. Wha tthe WH is not doing for some reason is informing people of what they’re actually going to get. They’ve left the playing field wide open to the GOP to continue embedding in the American psyche the threat of a banikrup country, which of course is crap.

I think I’ll remain quiet at the next two or three VPs so I can get a grasp of when and how to jump ine conversations. It is fun, BTW, if you can survive the centrifugal force.

Take care and talk to you soon.

Bourne

» Posted By BourneID On April 1, 2012 @ 5:48 pm

What If? The Affordable Care Act and the Supreme Court

Impressive and necessary. You’ve taken a 2000 page monster and condensed it into a comprehensible selection of facts that connect cause to effect. I have never been able to sort through the “jumbalya” the press has made of this issue. Your selection of related subjects is excellent, particularly the stats from the Project for Excellence in Journalism, which pretty much uncovers the dismal truth about the loss of journalistic integrity in every media. We know nothing about the bill but we do know all about the fights.

What if? Excellent premise. What if you hadn’t written this.

» Posted By BourneID On March 26, 2012 @ 8:01 pm

The Tao and I

Hi KT

I see that those who respond to your writing call you KT. I hope I may as well.

Your commentary on how Tao Te Ching helped you overcome difficulties is a testimony to your great inner strength. I admire your choice in using the gift of Tao to find your way back. It is a wonderful book and I read it for my love of its words, my love of Chinese art and philosophy, and as a guide to a greater knowledge of our universal connecions. We are all made of the same substance of the universe and this the ancient Chinese understood, taught and lived.

KT, I had the good fortune to live and work in Asia for 6 years. Part of that time was in the PHilippines and the remainder in Malaysia. I travelled extensively and spent many hours in the museums that housed some of the greatest art ever created…fragile carvings in ivory and jade, centuries old. The genius of the art is indescribable but its beauty was born in a culture that does not teach personal recognition. Art is classified by dynasty, not by artist… so different from western cultures that not only demand personal recognize but reward individaul accomplishment – that sense of self so important to us.

KT, I have an ivory ball, about the size of a tennis ball, carved from a single piece, the outside artfully detailed. Within are 10 individually carved layers, each moving freely. When lined correctly at several opening points, you can see in the center a perfectly shaped miniscule elephant. just amazing.

I have several Tao books. About 4 years ago I purchased a Barnes & Noble publication of Tao Te Ching, with 77 verses in English translation and corresonding Chinese character at their side. My favorite is number 16, The Tranquillity of the Mind.

Allow the heart to empty itself of all turmoil
Retrieve the utter tranquillity of mind
from which you issued.

To know tranquillity is to embrace all
To embrace all is to be just
Justice is the foundation for wholeness
Wholeness is the Great Integrity
The Great Integrity is the Infinite fulfilling itself.

Thank you for this KT. :

» Posted By BourneID On March 31, 2012 @ 4:43 pm

Huffington Post Openly Launches Campaign to Attack Obama

Hi KT

Just saw your reply to Murph re HP. I share your frustration but I also have made some interesting worth-keeping friends that I learn a lot from. One is an amazing man that has also written to me with the same complaint you just talked about. I actually met him while reading a long exchange between and Murph. His screen name is Outlandish. Do you know him? We talked now and then and in October he sent me a post asking about my last name. He was on Cyprus and sid he had some friends whose last name is the same as mine. I gave him some info about my dad and he wrote back saying we apparently weren’t related but one of the men told him a cousin from Cyprus was a billionaire living in London who had been one of the people killed in the hotel massacre in India. We started talking occasionally; he told me he was studying languages becuse he needed them in his work. I asked what he did and he sent a really interesting reply: He is an ophthalmologist, retired at age 40 because he designed and patented some small unit that changed laser surgery, so his name is on every surgical unit used. He opened eye clinics all over the US, Australia, Europe; he owns a farm in Australia, another in some other country (can’t remember); Cyprus where he spends 4 months in winter, and lives in Denmark where he bought a 400 year old home. He was leaving Cyprus in April for Kenya whre his Doctors Without Borders team will work. He works 3 to 5 months a year with DWB. I got a post from him 10 or 12 days ago; his team was called to the Sudan (southern) to replace another team that contracted some kind virus, that they haven’t been able to diagnose yet. He might have contracted the same virus and was confined to his bed and was posting a few things. What an incredible man.

He told me that he had sent HP a “beautiful description of the horrible conditions in the Sudan” written by another doctor. He said the post was reviewed and all the information scrubbed so that it simply said that he met George Clooney. He asked how a post that describes the fear and horrific lives of these people could be reduced to nothing more than blather. He told earlier that some of his things were removed; I sent a link of that to Murph and he got in touch with Outlandish.

This is long, KT, but his story is worth telling. Murph suggested we invite him to join the planet. I think that’s a great idea.

Bourne (Pat)

» Posted By BourneID On March 25, 2012 @ 8:07 pm

Your last comment had no reply point so I used another to tell you I’d read the ink you sent re AH charities.

Ihave completed reading AH post re charitable contributions and noted that it was posted in July 2009, months after President Obama was inaugurated and perhaps a year or two prior to AOL/HP union. Things change.

Within the article she refers to a person named Traubman” – who appparently gave several separate gifts to several charities with only one requirement: each had to bare his name. AH pointed out that it might have been more charitable had he given 1000 families %10K each than to want to see his name on so many things. Again, times change.

You said AH paid for buses to send 10,000 to Jon Stewart’s rally in DC. Jon is a pretty power influence in his own right; the rally was well-intended a somewhat entertaining. You stated that the only requirement for the bus ride was that each person wear a Huffington Post bracelet. And that is the rub. Charity, as she defined it in 2009 and as I was taught and still do define it, is not broadcast and comes with no attachments. if one is unimpressed with AH, as I am, one sees that as an opportunity for 10,000 potential new HP members and/or advertisers and/or exhibitions of the Huffington name. Maybe this wasn’t the case at all, but she called out a multimillionaire 2.8 years ago for what it seems she herself did.

MTS, I do not think you should change your views or stop supporting what you believe about her. You’re a careful thinker and on a conversational level you are much less persistent in presenitng your views as you are when you write one of the articles specific to a political issue of the tiem. There is no conflict here, we simply don’t agree on her.

Do you know Michael Wood (British historian who periodically produces excellent presentations on various ancient locations). One of my favorites is his program on Greece. They are wonderful to watch because he is wonderful to watch. He’s excite to show things, such as the agora, and to comment that it’s still open after 2000 years. He loves taking the viewer with him to the Acroolis to sugggest where Socrates might have been sitting when he taught his students. He climbed over a short fence on one journey and showed a rock with an inscription in Classical Greek; translation: “Never lend a Greek money; tomorrow, he will remember it as a gift.” Now that is something that has not changed.

I prefer that any communication we might have in the future be done here, not on HP. I’m selective with whom I share my thoughts and you have 4300 people I haven’t met yet.

» Posted By BourneID On March 25, 2012 @ 4:29 pm

Responding to your latest comment. Changing minds is not easy, so I understand the conflict. Any discussion deserves time to study all vantage points. I’m on my way out so won’t get back to this until early evening.

I will read the links you offer.

Bourne

» Posted By BourneID On March 25, 2012 @ 12:19 pm

Thank you; your generous approval is appreciated. I haven’t read much about your views on AH. I’m sure you give it the same careful consideration you apply to all of your views. From what I have read, I note that you place high value on the opportunity HuffPost offers thousands of us to communicate with one another every day. It is an imp0rtant value for those of us who use it, but I give it secondary importance in view of what I still perceive as one whose power and money give her voice that may not serve the interests of this country. I compare her unfavorably with Murdock. Who owns the press in America owns America – naive? Perhaps. She has joined the ranks of the purchasers.

You and I have had a number of conversations about Citizens United. As a consequence, we have also associated CU with the Koch brothers, whose unlimited resources we’ve seen as the power to purchase America. Yet, there is the counter argument that, while we hate one component of the brothers’ power, we cannot dismiss their generous contributions to art, science, and education. They are generous sponsors of PBS and others. We remain in a constant state of weighing good against evil, aren’t we?

I have read nothing abour charities she supports or if she contributes to the humanities. I would have expected by now, in view of the pathetic state the country of her birth finds itself in, she might offer something, some sympathy, some regret for the people. It speaks to that same cold detachment I refer to in my piece. HP is a high end publication for high end people with high end Sections. Maybe I’d change my mind if she’d add one on Appalachia

Give me something to balance my view against.

» Posted By BourneID On March 25, 2012 @ 10:38 am

Good morning aL

i read the entire thread, the majority of comments between you and Murph. Trying to define AH (interesting initials, right – appropriate I would say), is not as difficult as you might think. She is exactly where she intended to be from the moment she stepped into this country. Opportunist, as you describe her, is exactly what I see.

Her marriage to husband Huffington, a congressman, placed her almost immediately in the chambers of power. She’s clever and, I believe, immediately recognized the flaws and weaknesses within the holders of power themselves. When a woman recognizes a man’s weakness, he might as well surrender. She’s good at the game. The one word I haven’t seen to describe her is “ruthless.”

I am going to go out on a limb here, probably generate some hostile responses, but I speak with some deeper “interior” knowledge of her. My heritage is Greek; Greeks are not very nice to each other, vis a vis the mess you see in the country now. AH could not care less about that. There is an emotional dead zone that somehow moves through the culture. This is my observation, based on experience. The Greeks cannot move past their golden age. I would think that in 25 years, they could claim some contribution more important thatn Greek yogurt. What have they done? Nothing.

Back to Arianna. Her marriage was one of conveninence and ambtion. She met and knows the big guns. It was also a conveninence for Mr. H who came out just before the divorce. I would ot be at all surprised if there isn’t some sort of prenup that has nothing to do with who gets what at the end of the union.

Somethng evident that I view is body language. Women, because we all share a certain “bitch gene” so we cnn spot sighs right away. AH is as comfortable talking to Joe Scarborough about the launch of HuffPost Women as she is talking to anyone on Fox. I agree with you AL, she talks out of both sides of her mouth. She’s ambitious, ruthless, cunning, and unfortunately influential.

I’ve been on this site for just about a week, thatnks to the good advice and insight of Murph, whose judgement i trust.I’ve seen more constructive analytical and critical thinking on these pages than i’ve seen in all broadcast journalism for the past 4 years. Don’t kid yourselves. Part of her problem could very well be a tiny little smidge of racism. Greeks have alwa;ys seen themselves as the blond-haired, blue=eyed, fabulous bodies seen only in statues. I haven’t known one in my life who look that way. They cannot stand that their now dark hair and darker skin is the result of a few well-placed gneetic contributions from the Moors.

Loved participating in VP last night; it moved so rapidly but I think I’ll learn. BTW, as you were reporting sign-ins, a very narrow band wss scrolling that someone was apparently searching or surfing the POV sight via Google. How can you tell that?

Have a great weekend, AL. And you too Murph. Check email sometime this evening or tomorrow. There’s a message/discussion there. And, yes, I know you use it only rarely, but I don’t do anything only rarely.

Bourne

» Posted By BourneID On March 24, 2012 @ 9:52 am

A Psychiatrist’s Perspective on Obama: “His work is not done. Our need is still real.”

Hi AdLib

I’m visiting the planet today to study the various options available, but I read Maryl’s comments and your response and want to add a bit of my own take on this.

I agree with you absolutely on the extraordinary assault the Speaker and Senate Minority Leader have continued launching against President Obama. While I agree 100% that we must re-elect our President, I think we must also send the message that we do whatever necessary to remove these two men and every other member, whether dem or repub, who do not represent the values of the country. It is no wonder that the money men continue invading every corner of government, when a paralyzed congress seems neither capable nor interested in stopping them.

All that we’ve learned from the economic collapse to the unconscionable behavior of the Supreme Court came to us in sudden revelations. We were not prepared for Wall Street and we’re not prepared to lose the single greatest gift the framers gave us – justice. If we lose the Supreme Court, what’s left?

I’m going to join you for Vox Populi on Friday as an observer. I want to learn the ebb and flow of the conversation. I look forward to it.

Regards,

Bourne

» Posted By BourneID On March 19, 2012 @ 12:32 pm

Hi choicelady

I’m still on the site reaing through the comments. Murph invited me to visit the planet. We’ve been talking for a long time. This is going to be a pleasant experience.

I read your post above and appreciate your gift of expression. I am also from California. I am a registered Republican but knew as soon as Barack came on the scene that I would do everything I could to support him. That has not changed.

We watch the candidates insult one another and wonder how it would be possible for any one of them to sit in the Oval office and lead a country as diverse and advanced as we are. I recall that soon after President Bush’s administration got underway, and especially after 9-11, everything started to come unhinged. There was tremendous infighting within his senior staff and they themselves made it public. When Cheney was Secretary of Defense under President Geo HW Bush (am I correct or was it Reagan), hie I was impressed with him, but then I wasn’t too well informed. The only person in W’s administration who seemed to have a sense of decency and understanding of the world was Colin Powell. In fighting seems to be pretty comfortable for the party.

I will look forward to reading your remarks.

Again, thanks for the welcome.

Bourne

» Posted By BourneID On March 18, 2012 @ 6:49 pm

Hey MTS

This is really great. You left a msg re low key. I understand. I checked to see if I had perhaps compared the two on my comments page but I culdn’t find anything. I’m more interested in minimizing interest that might lead to questions I don’t want to answer. Did you see something I’m not aware of?

Later,

PL

» Posted By BourneID On March 18, 2012 @ 6:31 pm

I’m back KilgoreTrout to prove I can type when I use both hands. I have no idea where Telyr came from.

B/ID

» Posted By BourneID On March 18, 2012 @ 6:23 pm

Thanks for the welcome KilgoreTeiyr

I’cw already noticed the high level of mutual respect.

My screen name is from the trilogy. I have a serious problem. Active imagination. I spot suspicius people on every corner.

I loved the trilogy and see whenever the movies rerun.

» Posted By BourneID On March 18, 2012 @ 6:20 pm

Hey Funk (may I call you Funk?)

It’s like a HS reunion here today. Yea, we are connected.

Thanks for the welcome.

B/ID

» Posted By BourneID On March 18, 2012 @ 6:15 pm

Thank you Choice Lady. I’ve already read some of your comments. I look forward to future conversations.

B/ID

» Posted By BourneID On March 18, 2012 @ 6:11 pm

Yep. I do think it’s going to be a good experience. I also think we may be connected.

Thanks for the welcome.

B/ID

» Posted By BourneID On March 18, 2012 @ 6:09 pm

Thank youm kesmarn (I think I misspelled this when I replied to Murph (whom I call MTS).

I do think I will really enjoy being here. Look forward to future conversations.

B/ID

» Posted By BourneID On March 18, 2012 @ 12:50 pm

Hi there MTS

I’m going to reply to your HP comment when I get back there. This all on my email. Wow, you are right. This is so much easier and friendlier. I’m sure there are those who get pretty testy at times, but I hope not what we see on HP.

I have a welcome from AdLib and another from kesnarn. How neat.

Okay, Mr. Genius. Did you type in all of the welcomes in half the spoken languages? I reconize bienvenido, wilcommen. bienvenue, aloha (that’s hard), and mabuhay. There is not end to your encyclopedic brain, is there?

See back at HP.

PL

» Posted By BourneID On March 18, 2012 @ 12:47 pm

Hi AdLib

Thanks for the welcome. Murph and I have been talking for months and pretty much take up most of HPs print space (I do actually; he says a lot in one sentence, and I can’t find my off button when I get started). He invited me to visit the Planet. I did yesterday, love the format, the column that lists articles, and was able to scroll to your on what the President has accomplished. I read through 20+ of the 42 responses that were posted at that time. I’m impressed and absolutely pleased that converstions flow so well. On HP, the threads end so quickly, so there isn’t the continuity.

I’m going to like it here. I especially like that all comments I’ve seen so far are personalized by addrssing the screen name before starting the message.

Once again, thanks for the welcome.

B/ID

» Posted By BourneID On March 18, 2012 @ 12:39 pm

I leave my first post on your blog. Need I say how impressed I am? Did the author of the piece you quote give permission to publish elsewhere and periodically from now to November?

I gave this a 10. I don’t think my screen name is to hard to decode.

BourneID

» Posted By BourneID On March 18, 2012 @ 11:21 am

The GOP Handbook For Training Your Woman

Hi GirlOutWest,

As far west as CA? This is where I live.

We should counter the GOP Handbook with our own, The Democrat Calendar of Real Men. Visualize a month by month display of male Democrats and left leaning Independents of all ages, dressed in the uniforms of their chosen professions: firefighters, law enforcement, pilots, farmers, Military, businessmen, doctors, teachers…

And the caption:

TRAINED BY REAL WOMEN

BTW, at least once a month in my city, Firefighters are at every major intersection in various locations collecting donations for the Shriner’s Hospital. They carry a boot and walk among the cars when lights are red.

I cannot believe how gorgeous they are!

» Posted By BourneID On March 22, 2012 @ 9:36 am

Hi adLib

I’m a little late, but I’m one of the new kids on the block.

FYI, Roaring is specialty of us Califonia women. One roaring alone is deafening; the decibel level increases exponentially with each addition.

We could take on the GOP Handbook for “training women” if you’d like.

It’s Thursday, March 22; I’m joining you for my first Vox Populi experience – watching and learning (unless I can’t stand not responding to something interesting).

Bourne

» Posted By BourneID On March 22, 2012 @ 8:39 am

Time Out for O/T – Vol. 18

Answering your last message here. No reply point at the end of your response. I agree, KT, that Z is definitely guilty of murder, no matter what the circumstance that ensued before he took Trayvon’s life.

I think attorneys are the last people to make an absolute statement about anything…caution, which is not a bad thing. I arrive at conclusions pretty quickly.

Take care;.

Bourne

» Posted By BourneID On April 12, 2012 @ 8:28 pm

Hey Sue

Yeah. That’s when his original attorneys said he was depressed, losing weight, etc. Then they made another statement that they didn’t know where he was and finally they announced they’d removed themselves from the case.

Talk to you tomorrow evening I assume?

Bourne

Bourne

» Posted By BourneID On April 12, 2012 @ 8:22 pm

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