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Senate debates Health Care Bill

kesmarn, your very kind comments are soothing indeed, very appreciated!

» Posted By AdLib On November 22, 2009 @ 12:29 am

Nope, Speakers Corner is for non-news/issue-related articles. It’s open and public like every other category here except the articles posted under it just don’t appear as front page articles, like our Morning Blog which is there right now. It’s an editorial choice to feature POVs on issues of substance on the front page.

I appreciate bitohistory’s suggestion, we do strive to have important issue-based articles on our front page but Authors will always remain free to write articles as they choose.

» Posted By AdLib On November 21, 2009 @ 7:46 pm

Only Admin can ban here, meaning me and only for outrageous conduct, none of which has occurred to date.

Name calling is against the rules of conduct here for everyone who blogs here without exception or prejudice.

That includes me too.

» Posted By AdLib On November 21, 2009 @ 7:39 pm

javaz, Keven can’t ban you, I am the Admin and we don’t ban here. This exchange is very unfortunate but I guarantee all here that I will be working with everyone involved to resolve this, put it behind us and move forward positively.

As I mentioned below, conflicts happen between husbands and wives, parents and kids, best friends and the constructive response is to recognize such moments are inevitable between independently minded people but if they share most of the same sensibilities, it’s just the task of ironing out what happened and putting it behind them.

That’s what will happen in this case.

» Posted By AdLib On November 21, 2009 @ 7:21 pm

Kev, you’re right, the rules apply in both directions.

Let’s get back to issues and not criticisms of other members.

» Posted By AdLib On November 21, 2009 @ 6:48 pm

Cheers! All good folk here, just like in any relationship, conflicts come up, they need to be dissolved, reconciled and forgotten.

» Posted By AdLib On November 21, 2009 @ 6:44 pm

Please Kev, feel free to discuss the issues you have a problem with but don’t personalize it.

That’s the HuffPo way, not The Planet way.

» Posted By AdLib On November 21, 2009 @ 6:42 pm

Kev, the rules don’t allow you to name call. Please don’t do that.

» Posted By AdLib On November 21, 2009 @ 6:36 pm

I think we’re only counting opinions from Manhattan, upstate New York is outta luck!

» Posted By AdLib On November 21, 2009 @ 6:36 pm

There are still a number of clever and thoughtful folks over there, wish we could convince more to liberate themselves from the unnecessary abuse and repression over there.

I know some think they’re fighting the good fight but I think many here believe that war’s already been lost.

» Posted By AdLib On November 21, 2009 @ 6:35 pm

I do indeed and it’s very appreciated, my friend!

» Posted By AdLib On November 21, 2009 @ 6:30 pm

K7 and I have gotten into it on issues as well, please don’t take it personally.

Still, we do require that people respect each other while disagreeing on opinions, that applies to everyone including all of the founders. We’re all peers here.

» Posted By AdLib On November 21, 2009 @ 6:29 pm

Knock it off, wise guy!

» Posted By AdLib On November 21, 2009 @ 6:26 pm

Nope, it’s me. Just adjusted how many comments appear per page (click “Older Comments” below to see more).

When we get a few hundred comments and they’re not paged, it takes a long time to load them all each time there’s a refresh!

Sorry about that!

» Posted By AdLib On November 21, 2009 @ 6:24 pm

I used to think that but after that comprehensive article on McCain in Rolling Stone, I’m sold on the proposal that McCain is simply an opportunist who was only a “maverick” for the benefit of that image.

» Posted By AdLib On November 21, 2009 @ 2:53 pm

Three cheers for Nellie!!!

» Posted By AdLib On November 21, 2009 @ 12:49 pm

Thanks Nellie! However, it still leaves me curious as to whether amending a bill and putting it up for a vote after amending are two separate actions, each of which could be filibustered?

» Posted By AdLib On November 21, 2009 @ 12:31 pm

I’m can’t say I’m 100% positive on this but my understanding was that bringing a bill to the floor to be debated and bringing it to a vote are two separate actions, each of which could be filibustered.

My understanding is that once a bill was voted up, the bill from the conference with the House bill took only a majority to approve.

Can that vote be filibustered?

» Posted By AdLib On November 21, 2009 @ 12:06 pm

I remember Mumbly Joe Lie-berman saying he would probably vote cloture to allow the bill to the floor but would not do so when it was time to vote on the final bill.

» Posted By AdLib On November 21, 2009 @ 12:01 pm

I’ve been buried in tech stuff this morning (improving the speed of pages loading, you should note a bit of a difference).

So just to be clear, there are three votes and two junctures for filibusters and overcoming them.

First, is overcoming a filibuster to bring the bill to the floor for debate and amendments. That’s what’s been overcome today which is great.

Second, is a filibuster to bring the final bill to a vote. That’s down the line.

Third, is a vote after reconciliation between the Senate and House bills. This only requires a majority vote (50% +1 vote).

So, we’re over the first hurdle but still have another huge one ahead of us. I think we’ll make it though.

» Posted By AdLib On November 21, 2009 @ 11:48 am

I’m sure an hour from now Republicans will be discussing Descartes’ Theory of Dualism.

» Posted By AdLib On November 21, 2009 @ 11:11 am

Damn Those Unions—Damn That ACORN

The amusing thing about all of this is that, unlike Coleman/Franken and Bush/Gore, a winner has already been declared and seated.

You can’t undo that anymore than Bush could’ve been unseated after stealing both of his elections (Kerry shouldn’t have conceded Ohio so quickly without a recount of all those skewed Diebold votes.).

» Posted By AdLib On November 20, 2009 @ 1:58 pm

Sirens of Song

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN! THE WEEKLY PLANET IS ABOUT TO BEGIN! PLEASE CLICK BELOW TO GO THERE: https://planetpov.com/live-events/the-weekly-planet/

» Posted By AdLib On November 20, 2009 @ 7:01 pm

Maybe a little Natalie Merchant?

» Posted By AdLib On November 20, 2009 @ 6:46 pm

Indeed she did. She was a superstar in Europe but those days, in America…

» Posted By AdLib On November 20, 2009 @ 6:39 pm

Such a powerful song.

On lighter note, here is one of my favorite Billie Holiday songs:

» Posted By AdLib On November 20, 2009 @ 6:21 pm

“The Weekly Planet” Debuts Tonight!

Extremely interesting…how many are posting as trolls I wonder?

» Posted By AdLib On November 20, 2009 @ 9:47 pm

Night!

» Posted By AdLib On November 20, 2009 @ 9:45 pm

Hey HITO!

I must have racked up a lot of HuffPo Naughty Points then for all the hyphen usage I employed to avoid the censorship over there when I was a regular.

» Posted By AdLib On November 20, 2009 @ 9:41 pm

Nope, missed that (I rarely visit HP anymore). Angry mob of Dems?

Chat is easy, it’s closed now but when it’s open there’s a text entry box like the ones here for comments to add chat comments.

» Posted By AdLib On November 20, 2009 @ 9:24 pm

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