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Hey escribacat!

I trust folks here a lot too but keep in mind that everything on this site is on the web and available to anyone to see.

So, no one should ever post any info here that they don’t want the most undesirable person viewing.

You’re not paranoid, you’re smart!

» Posted By AdLib On January 4, 2010 @ 12:13 pm

jan, as you’ll find out from spending time here, this site is all about the members.

We are constantly updating and revising the site based on suggestions from members, good ideas get implemented swiftly here.

In the right column you’ll see a pulldown for “Authors” and lower down a link for “PlanetPOV Stats”, using these provides full lists of members’ posts and comments.

This Directory compliments them nicely. Thanks for asking about it, that got the ball rolling!

» Posted By AdLib On January 4, 2010 @ 12:10 pm

Just To Tell You The News

Planetary-sized congrats to you and Tom!

BTW, may I suggest “Adlib” as an excellent name for a baby?

» Posted By AdLib On January 4, 2010 @ 1:00 pm

President Hung in Effigy

Just quoted the AP story in our news widget, looks like poll numbers in swing states are not good news for incumbents.

You’ve got to bet into your hand right now and count on things getting better in this nation or running will be a waste of time and money.

» Posted By AdLib On January 5, 2010 @ 9:56 pm

Maybe because it was Dorgan and not Dodd?

» Posted By AdLib On January 5, 2010 @ 9:54 pm

On our news widget just to the right:

Dorgan says he will not seek re-election in fall

By KEN THOMAS, Associated Press Writer Ken Thomas, Associated Press Writer

» Posted By AdLib On January 5, 2010 @ 9:53 pm

Cool!

» Posted By AdLib On January 5, 2010 @ 9:50 pm

Yep, we all know why politicians retire early.

The polls.

» Posted By AdLib On January 5, 2010 @ 9:49 pm

It just flew over to the rotting corpse in the basement at HuffPo named “principles”.

» Posted By AdLib On January 5, 2010 @ 9:48 pm

And of course, we have our redirect links that bring folks here (Abby, our actual URL is in their word filter).

You can use any of these over there:

http://welcome.to/planetpov2.com

http://welcome.to/planetpov3.com

http://welcome.to/planetpov1211.com

» Posted By AdLib On January 5, 2010 @ 9:43 pm

As I’ve mentioned, my eyes were opened wide years ago when I started spending a lot of time in Louisiana.

You get a very misguided picture of the way things are when it comes to race in this nation when you live in L.A. instead of LA.

» Posted By AdLib On January 5, 2010 @ 9:25 pm

Remember the MSM and right wing meme after Obama’s election, “This is a post-racial society now.”

And if Sarah Palin had wheels she’d be a snowplow.

» Posted By AdLib On January 5, 2010 @ 9:22 pm

Anyone suggested to them, coming over to p l a n e t p o v dot com?

» Posted By AdLib On January 5, 2010 @ 9:15 pm

We don’t ban people and your outrage is totally understandable but misdirected.

This is a community of people from all around the world who care strongly about what’s going on in this world.

You’ve read articles here, you can get a feel for it. We don’t play the HuffPo Rage Game here and everyone, you too, deserves and is assured respect here to freely express themselves.

And the only way to assure that is to require a minimum of respect that says, no personal attacks.

» Posted By AdLib On January 5, 2010 @ 9:13 pm

dannie22, you are welcome here but any comments with personal attacks are not so your reply with one towards KQuark was removed along with the replies to it. The primary rule here is simple, real freedom of expression but no personal attacks.

This site is far different from sites like HuffPo that profit off of and are delighted by people dissing each other.

This isn

» Posted By AdLib On January 5, 2010 @ 8:54 pm

dannie22, you are welcome here.

However, this site is far different from sites like HuffPo that profit off of and are delighted by people dissing each other.

This isn’t a place for throwing rocks at other people’s heads when you don’t like what they say.

Here, people disagree all the time but see each other as genuine human beings, not anonymous punching bags.

It may be a bit of culture shock, coming from the hatefest that’s HuffPo but that’s what makes this place something better.

If you reread his comment, you’ll see KQuark was not condoning the use of nooses. He was looking ahead and exploring the concept of people using valid reasons to create bad laws to go too far and take away freedoms.

Here, people are free to explore concepts like the abuse of law under cover of protecting people.

Do you blindly trust those who make laws to always do the right thing? What about The Patriot Act?

Your outrage over the racism that was obvious in the hanging of Obama in effigy is totally legit.

But going at a member here who clearly is not racist and is just as appalled by such things is not.

The kneejerk reaction and warfare style of blogging is for right wingers and of course, HuffPo. You get to be a real human being here, deserving of respect. But you have to give it too.

I hope that’s something you’re looking for, if so, I think you’ll find this site very satisfying.

» Posted By AdLib On January 5, 2010 @ 8:48 pm

He should be arrested and obviously is mentally ill but does he represent a concrete threat as HuffPo is whipping up?

No.

He called 911 to say that he wanted to kill the president. Why would anyone who was sane and capable call 911 to announce that?

Is that the act of someone who wants to kill or someone who wants attention, likely for his mentally illness?

» Posted By AdLib On January 4, 2010 @ 9:50 pm

Look at the “Connect the Dots”:

I was outraged against Bush & Co. and driven to find a blog to join like-minded people to share in conversations and taking action in bringing his regime to an end.

I joined HuffPo, learned the ropes of blogging and made many valuable friends and colleagues.

After the election and I was fed up with the bullshit at HuffPo and eventually collaborated with three fellow bloggers and friends to create PlanetPOV.

So, in a way, it was my hatred of the Bush Regime and what he had done to our people and nation that set everything in motion for a constructive website such as this to come to fruition.

Very interesting indeed.

» Posted By AdLib On January 4, 2010 @ 8:48 pm

I totally understand, Cher. My reservoir of hatred topped out during the election while at HuffPo (don’t know which was the bigger source of it!).

After the election, I was elated with Obama’s (and our) victory and the sour taste in my mouth from all that hatred drove a need to transcend it in a way.

I quit HuffPo, I quit focusing on the hatred I felt for assholes like Cheney and Lieberman and giving them the power to affect me.

Haters will be haters (and by haters, I mean those who hate the public and hate the idea of a better society for those who aren’t rich and powerful).

Of course they will do everything they can to undermine and stop this president and the Dems in Congress. I’m not surprised by how awful they can be anymore, I take it for granted.

As you know, that doesn’t stop me from paying close attention to them and fighting against their lies and agendas.

I just don’t need to stew around in hate anymore towards them, I got all “hated out” and am more about purpose now.

Look, if Christ came back today, The GOP would have him held in Guantanamo if they could for being a “socialist illegal alien” (he wouldn’t have a U.S. birth certificate). When you know people are that bad, it’s harder to become outraged.

» Posted By AdLib On January 4, 2010 @ 8:40 pm

It’s on the front page now, here’s the link: https://planetpov.com/2010/01/04/our-failed-intelligence/

» Posted By AdLib On January 4, 2010 @ 8:29 pm

This is why the SS needs to check out any such incident as a potential threat, to assess whether it is in fact a real threat.

Choicelady below fills in a lot of blanks with her insights and raised a question in my mind.

Would burning a cross be protected speech in any situation? Or would it always be seen as a threat towards black people?

If so, then can the hanging in effigy of a public official (who’s also black) ever be seen as not expressing a threat?

A threat doesn’t need action to be taken for it to be a crime. A person could even claim to be joking when they made a death threat but the action of having done so in itself is a crime.

Also, think about bomb hoaxes. If one called somewhere to say there was a bomb planted there but never planted a bomb nor had any intention of doing so, never representing or intending an actual threat, they would still be guilty of a crime.

I think there are some acts of expression in a free society that are by their nature, criminal whether or not actual harm is intended.

So I would back off my intent threshold in some cases after reading Choicelady’s points.

» Posted By AdLib On January 4, 2010 @ 8:26 pm

I respect people such as Ram Dass even though that philosophy is so foreign to me.

There are terrible people in the world who either directly or indirectly intend to harm others.

Of course, the extreme example would be to ask if praying for Hitler would have done more to end WWII than D-Day.

In large doses, hatred is indeed a cancer. But in moderate doses, anger and hostility can motivate one or a society to take constructive steps they might otherwise be too uncomfortable or afraid to take.

My hostility towards Bush led me to pour myself into blogging and working to elect Obama.

The hatred of Bush brought the whole Progressive movement together.

In moderation, many things can have a constructive use.

» Posted By AdLib On January 4, 2010 @ 8:13 pm

I agree that KQ literally said that though as I said, the subtext was clear to me.

Now, as you say, back on topic, is the hanging of an effigy of the POTUS protected free speech? That would depend in each case, wouldn’t it?

If someone hung the effigy to intentionally incite people to support a physical attack on the POTUS, it would be illegal.

It’s all about intent.

Someone could point a gun at another person to demonstrate something, another could do so with the intent of shooting that person.

Both are taking the same action but it is intent that makes one a crime and the other not.

» Posted By AdLib On January 4, 2010 @ 7:55 pm

Agreed. Freedom of Expression is a very meaningful and powerful topic to me, as I’m sure you’ve gathered.

» Posted By AdLib On January 4, 2010 @ 7:42 pm

Can we please turn down the temperature on this discussion?

First, I don’t think criticizing someone’s spelling is very kind, people type quickly.

Secondly, it seemed to me that KQ’s point was that the SS investigates potential threats. And the hanging of an effigy of the POTUS is a potential threat against the Pres.

» Posted By AdLib On January 4, 2010 @ 7:29 pm

Maybe “Congress”…or in Teabagger, “Congruss”.

» Posted By AdLib On January 4, 2010 @ 1:19 pm

I’ve been a long time MoveOn supporter for many years but I was angry at them for that dumb stunt.

They succeeded in giving the right wing a scapegoat to shift focus away from what was happening with our war spending.

Sometimes people fall in love with their own cleverness, that’s what I think happened here.

I’m still a strong MoveOn supporter but I emailed them and posted on HP (pre-PlanetPOV) blazing criticisms on that.

» Posted By AdLib On January 4, 2010 @ 1:18 pm

100 years of a national park done right

HITO, nice to see you!

Incoming???

» Posted By AdLib On January 4, 2010 @ 6:41 pm

I’m more than happy to give the benefit of the doubt that she may be interested in following up here.

We certainly aren’t interested in hosting political spam, hit and run solicitations but we are open and available for discussions with political candidates.

And knowing the membership here, if a candidate was to engage this community and make good points, they could very well gain contributions.

So let’s see…

» Posted By AdLib On January 4, 2010 @ 6:39 pm

It’s a first! Cheers!

Very pleased and as you say, I do hope she returns. It would be great to learn about her and her positions in her own words and have a conversation.

» Posted By AdLib On January 4, 2010 @ 6:12 pm

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