Displaying 0 To 0 Of 0 Comments Troll Busters! An Introduction Cher, send me the Word file and I will be able to post them with the links. Email me at: admin@planetpov.com » Posted By AdLib On February 17, 2010 @ 1:51 pm I have a very basic philosophy when it comes to blind followers. They didn’t use reason to become a follower so you can’t use reason to convince them out of being one. Such people NEED to believe what they do and follow who they do, for emotional and psychological reasons. They can’t be talked out of an emotional need. You just have to accept that they are lost causes and focus on those who aren’t. » Posted By AdLib On February 17, 2010 @ 12:16 pm Great work, Cher! Very helpful! » Posted By AdLib On February 17, 2010 @ 11:31 am Done! » Posted By AdLib On February 17, 2010 @ 11:30 am Indeed, people click on Humor (under the Arts & Entertainment category) and you will find many posts that should give them a smile or two! » Posted By AdLib On February 17, 2010 @ 11:12 am Minds need to be able to create thoughts to make jokes, music and art. Trolls faced with creative thinking is like bulimics faced with an all-you-can-eat buffet. » Posted By AdLib On February 17, 2010 @ 10:29 am The OT and Help Desk sections are really just articles like this one. People could just copy old and new comments here with info and links and we could create a new Troll Busters reference page that could be continually updated with the comments that are added. The Troll Busters page could appear under Archive for reference. What do you think? » Posted By AdLib On February 17, 2010 @ 10:16 am Excellent, Nellie! This is the kind of thing we can do as a concerned community, collaborate to create resources that can help many of our colleagues and knock down the BS. With you on this! » Posted By AdLib On February 17, 2010 @ 8:25 am Harry Reid Filibusters Democracy True but its being used to block extremely good judges and appointees from Obama. It’s a double edged sword, stopping good and bad…it is the definition of gridlock and though there is good about bad actions not happening, we can’t have progress without good things happening. » Posted By AdLib On February 17, 2010 @ 10:47 am Wish it was like that but filibusters don’t really require anyone to stand and speak as in Mr. Smith…one of my favorite old time films. I would favor a set number of filibusters allowed for legislative purposes and a separate amount for appointments. If they’re rationed then it would have to be something really worth while. On the other hand, even with that in place the GOP would have used one to stop HCR. SO there has to be something more to the procedure that allows the majority to overcome the minority on important issues that does not require 60 votes. Not sure about how to do that right now… » Posted By AdLib On February 17, 2010 @ 10:45 am Indeed, the rules need to change. If they insist on preserving a filibuster, it should be limited by new rules so it is only used as it used to be, on occasion. What Reid, Dodd and others protecting the filibuster don’t admit is that it is being abused and was never intended or anticipated to be used for one party to stop the other from governing. » Posted By AdLib On February 17, 2010 @ 10:11 am Arnold was elected because he was Ahnold and because there was one source of financial pain that CA citizens were reeling from, their electric bills. The finger was pointed at Gray Davis for bungling that and locking in high priced deals with energy companies to solve it. Ahnold and others used the DMV raise of maybe $50 or $100 per registration to re-stoke the energy bill anger at him. Ahnold’s celebrity was huge in helping him win against a scapegoated Davis. In 2010, we all know why the economy collapsed and that the banks were the cause. Boxer can’t be scapegoated for that and if her opponent turns out to be Fiorina, she will instead be roasted for her failure as CEO at HP (the other one!) All incumbents are indeed suffering in the polls right now but I would say that being ahead right now, when things are probably at their worst, Boxer can only do better. » Posted By AdLib On February 12, 2010 @ 6:41 pm Ahnold was not elected because of a flashy campaign and his election can’t be duplicated. He won because CA had come through the energy ripoff from Enron poorly thanks to Bush’s allowing them to extort the state and Ahnold ran on cutting DMV tax instead of raising it a little as Gray Davis had. Since then, deficits have dwarfed Davis’ and the DMV fees were raised far more under Ahnold. Those situations could not be duplicated. Boxer is not behind in CA, according to the SF Chron: Boxer: 45 percent Independents favor Boxer 42 v. 37 percent Boxer:48 percent http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/nov05election/detail?blogid=14&entry_id=56130 I do appreciate your concern but as of right now, they conflict with the facts on the ground. » Posted By AdLib On February 12, 2010 @ 6:04 pm That’s just not correct, KQ. The House Dems are not puppets of Dean or Hamsher. The House Dems made very clear back when they passed their bill that a Public Option was mandatory to pass the House. On top of that, The Senate voted to tax Americans on their health insurance and included the strongest anti-abortion legislation in a generation. Many House Dems are not willing to vote for all of that. Additionally, your point about reconciliation isn’t correct. There is no guarantee or assurance that any bill would be allowed to go into the reconciliation process in The Senate so voting on the assumption that it would necessarily happen would be mistaken. The whole point of things being as they are today, with the House Dems suggesting a reconciliation bill that fixes the Senate bill be passed first is for this very reason. House Dems don’t want to vote to help some Americans while harming others without the fix already in place. » Posted By AdLib On February 12, 2010 @ 5:51 pm CA is not primed to turn Republican, Boxer is not going to be beat by Meg Whitman. Nor is IL. It is not 1994. Back then, the GOP was much more popular, today the GOP is still viewed more negatively than Dems. I appreciate your concern but this doomsday scenario is just that, a scenario, not reality. Nor is 2010 identical to 1994. In 1994, the GOP had a Contract With America, they had a plan. The GOP in 2010 only has the word “no”. It was not 2 years after the most disastrous 8 years in American presidency by a GOP Pres. It did not come on the heels of the biggest economic crash since the Depression. There are scores of reasons why there is no parallel. Here is the only applicable parallel. Historically, the party in power loses Congressional seats in an off year election. » Posted By AdLib On February 12, 2010 @ 5:21 pm Reid got the 60 votes by trashing the Public Option and allowing the most severe anti-abortion legislation in a generation. He bribed Dems to get 60 to sign onto it and ended up with a bill that the House couldn’t vote for. All in all, quite an accomplishment. » Posted By AdLib On February 11, 2010 @ 11:54 pm Though I don’t think they will win the Senate, you bet if they had been voted in with a huge mandate and the Dems were filibustering everything, they’d have nuked the filibuster long ago. » Posted By AdLib On February 11, 2010 @ 11:50 pm The meek inherited The Senate. Then lost re-election…hopefully. » Posted By AdLib On February 11, 2010 @ 11:48 pm It actually looks like an unintentional flip off…which was Reid’s political platform for years, I’m told. » Posted By AdLib On February 11, 2010 @ 11:47 pm Well…getting 60 votes by bribing and paying off those Dems who wouldn’t vote isn’t what I’d call a miracle. » Posted By AdLib On February 11, 2010 @ 11:44 pm 😆 “You shoulda looked out for us, Harry! Just a little bit!” » Posted By AdLib On February 11, 2010 @ 11:41 pm Actually, I see a long term version of the economic crash coming to fruition. Just as the greed-at-all-costs mentality caused the crash of 2008, this continued ratcheting up of greed-at-all costs is mathematically unsustainable. When the costs of insurance, education, gas, mortgages, food, etc. finally reach a level that is beyond affording by most Americans, the system will collapse. But corporate thinking, when facing such an eventuality, is to accelerate their grabbing of money from Americans to get as much as they can before the collapse. The banks do that with credit cards, when people reach a high level of debt, no matter how faithfully and on time they pay their debts, they jack up their rates and cut off use of the card. The oil companies did that in 2008 when they saw the economic crisis coming, they jacked up their rates to $5/gallon to grab all they could before the crash. In all these cases what this thinking does is in fact cause and hasten the crash that may not have come or be as severe if not for their actions. It’s either them (corporations) or us, that’s what it’s coming down to. » Posted By AdLib On February 12, 2010 @ 12:48 pm Leave it to someone who has always had the state provide his insurance to preach about how wonderful private insurance is and how evil single payer is. » Posted By AdLib On February 11, 2010 @ 5:47 pm Well done, Sue! I have the file so if anyone would like a copy, please feel free to email me at admin@planetpov.com. » Posted By AdLib On February 11, 2010 @ 8:24 pm Hey TRP! Great to see ya! » Posted By AdLib On February 11, 2010 @ 4:08 pm Or how about: A mericans (to corporations) » Posted By AdLib On February 11, 2010 @ 4:06 pm Here’s a few more I’ll throw against the fridge to see if any stick: a. Americans Empowered More later… » Posted By AdLib On February 11, 2010 @ 1:56 pm Hey…since you mentioned it, how about the name, “By The People”? » Posted By AdLib On February 11, 2010 @ 11:09 am I’m working on a few names but in the meantime, may I suggest a couple of things to think about? First, keep in mind that if the name is similar to another group people know of, it will be easy for folks to mistake it for the wrong group or it may be perceived as a parallel group or offshoot of that other group. For example, Americans United and Citizens United. Also, we should learn from the Teabaggers’ mistake, imagine the worst possible nicknames or references that a name could inspire before embracing it. Lastly, consider doing a search on the availability for a website with that name or initials, very important for a group to be able to have its name as its website. Be back soon with a few names to throw in the pot! » Posted By AdLib On February 11, 2010 @ 11:07 am I can indeed set up a poll for all names suggested. Why don’t we give it a few days to get the best variety? » Posted By AdLib On February 11, 2010 @ 10:58 amComments Posted By AdLib
Campbell: 41 percent
Fiorina: 40 percent
C alling
R epublicans
O bnoxious
N asty
Y es
M en
b. People Empowered
c. Demand Democracy
d. CurbCorps
e. Grass Roots Over Washington (GROW)
f. Majority Rules
g. Democracy Rules
h. Defend Democracy
i. The Resistance
j. Regain Democracy
k. Retake Democracy
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