Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PST. Hope to see you then!

AdLib3 hours ago

Hey TW!

AdLiban hour ago

Well here we are.

twilson117

an hour ago

Just us so far. CL had a long day at the CA State Bar trying to get justice against a crooked lawyer. They favored their own over justice it sounds like.

AdLiban hour ago

So she won’t make it tonight.

AdLiban hour ago

Well she works hard.

twilson117

an hour ago

Yes lawyers do protect each other

twilson117

an hour ago

So adding all the decisions and interest against Trump, in two months he’s on the hook for over half a billion!

AdLiban hour ago

Murph is in the House

twilson117

an hour ago

Hey Murph!

AdLiban hour ago

Got right on tonight!

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

So Murph how are the Trumpers taking the verdict against their hero?

twilson117

an hour ago

Murph -Glad to hear that!

AdLiban hour ago

TW…ignoring it, denying it, defaming it.

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

Murph if I recall you taught history, what’s your take on Thomas Paine?

twilson117

an hour ago

So? Did it ever seem like this day would come? Trump sunk by half a million?!

AdLiban hour ago

TW….Thomas Paine of the Revolutionary Era?

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

Yes

twilson117

an hour ago

Well….he was a radical….a true radical…whose ideas were cherry picked by the Founders and Framers.

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

Ad Million or Billion

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

Murph – You probably know about this but on the same day that youths shot up the Chief’s rally killing multiple people and wounding 2 dozen, the MO legislature killed a bill requiring youth to have an adult with them when they carry weapons in public. Insane.

AdLiban hour ago

TW….what is your interest in TP?

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

Murph he was but I think his ideas are appropriate for today. If he was around I have the feeling he be in the Dem camp.

twilson117

an hour ago

Murph – Half BILLION! Around $550 million!

AdLiban hour ago

Ad…very aware of it….to quote my state rep…..”Everything is a compromise made for the greater good. The preservation of the free, open and untrammeled right to. own, hold and bear arms is for the greater good.”

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

Murph I working on an article I’m writing for Medium and using some his quotes. Also watched an interesting video on him and he was ahead of his time on a number of things. But that never got discussed when I was in HS years ago.

twilson117

an hour ago

TW….he was regarded as a useful thinker but he was very difficult to be or work with.

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

Murph my kind of person.

twilson117

an hour ago

He owes E. Jean Carroll over $100M including interest and today’s judgement is about $450M including interest. And as appeal makes days and months go by, he owes more and more interest at a rate of $1 million a week! Just heard that on Lawrence.

AdLiban hour ago

Paine was an absolutist……NEVER compromise……Jefferson admired him but said he would never have supper with him….indigestion you know.

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

Trump a half billion gotta love it.

twilson117

an hour ago

Ad…what do you think of my reps quote? He had it ready to go.

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

Jefferson was a whimp.

twilson117

an hour ago

Murph – There’s something very “sacrifice virgin children” about the 2nd Amendment fanatics’ reasoning.

AdLiban hour ago

TW…Jefferson a wimp! Oh my….on what do you maintain that idea.

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

Ad, yes there is.

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

Did you all see the FBI arrested the GOP’s star anti Biden witness…..for perjury.

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

Do they think it’s just cool and macho to coldly declare innocent people have to die so we can carry AR-15s in an Arby’s?

AdLiban hour ago

Murph his position on slavery the went back and forth he could have taken a stand but refuse to do so.

twilson117

an hour ago

Murph – Yep, saw that and laughed at the Repub’s reaction to their primary “evidence” being arrested as a fraud, “Oh, we have a mountain of other evidence against Biden.” Such terrible liars.

AdLiban hour ago

Ad…..they do not deal with it from that perspective……..remember that the “blood of patriots” that nurtures freedom…..is seen by them to include those who are innocent victims “who give their lives for freedom.” These are real quotes.

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

Ad we know the repugs are going to claim all sorts of stuff around this latest on Trump. Something about not being able to handle the truth.

twilson117

an hour ago

TW….do you know what became of Paine post revolution?

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

Murph – That’s so perverse. Giving one’s life is a choice, innocent children who are supposed to be protected by these “pro-lifers” are okay to be used as unwilling sacrifices to their god of death machines.

AdLiban hour ago

Murph yes when he died he was buried under a Walnut tree, his remains were dug up by a friend who was going to bury him in England but they got lost and never to be found.

twilson117

an hour ago

TW…yes…..do you know how he lived post revolution….AND why the idea of burying his ashes in England seemed appropriate

MurphTheSurf3

43 minutes ago

TW – Saw folks on MSNBC saying that Trump will have to continue running all year against the rule of law and everyone who enforces it, asking if the GOP will follow him on that. Of course they will but is that really an appetizing argument to pullBiden and indie voters over to him? “I will destroy the courts and the rule of law!” Don’t think so.

AdLib43 minutes ago

Ad, you speak the raw, naked truth.

MurphTheSurf3

43 minutes ago

Murph yeah he wasn’t allowed to be buried in some cemetery because it was said he wasn’t an American citizen along with his work in France that got him trouble.

twilson117

42 minutes ago

TW……yes……and what was that work in France….wasn’t there enough for him to do in the newly minted “united” States.

MurphTheSurf3

41 minutes ago

Murph – It seems pretty plain, how these obsessed extremists invest their manhood and identity in promoting the cult of guns, to the point of being cold-blooded sadists, justifying the murder of innocent men, women, and children. It is mental illness.

AdLib40 minutes ago

Ad….truth!

MurphTheSurf3

40 minutes ago

If we had a mental illness screening requirement to own guns, there would be tens of millions of unarmed gun fanatics.

AdLib39 minutes ago

TW….Derided by the public and abandoned by his friends, impoverished and largely ignored Paine died on June 8, 1809 at the age of 72 in New York City.

MurphTheSurf3

38 minutes ago

Murph is support for the revelation in France his support for Napolean but his words ie big mouth got him trouble with Napolean along with Washington never opening up his mouth about Paine having been granted citizenship because he upset Washing and Adams was not fan because of his radicalism. I believe he was ahead of his time.

twilson117

38 minutes ago

FWIW, I think Fani Willis is free and clear of being removed from the Trump case in Fulton County. My bet is that it can soon be scheduled for trial, possibly in August…just after the 1/6 trial should wrap up.

AdLib38 minutes ago

TW…..if you study Paine using an episodic approach selecting bits and pieces he can be made to be quite admirable, but look for his darker and less disciplined side and there is abundant evidence.

MurphTheSurf3

36 minutes ago

Ad as we discussed earlier I agree also I’m hoping Drump has a hard time of it from this point forward. We can’t forget he has members for the Meto police force suing him for what happen on Jan 6.

twilson117

36 minutes ago

Ad Lib…I thought Willis was fantastic……her “in your face” approach was clearly something the judge admired too.

MurphTheSurf3

36 minutes ago

The only testimony disputing Fani Willis’ testimony was from that woman who was disgruntled because she was essentially fired…but she was dishonest about it in court and claimed she just resigned…when the truth was she was told to resign or be fired. She destroyed her credibility. No other testimony or evidence to prove Trump’s team’s claims about Fani that would be cause to disqualify her. I bet early next week, the judge finds she can continue the case.

AdLib34 minutes ago

TW…..I asked a local sheriff about his thoughts re. those metro officers…..his response……”Brainwashed by the commies.”

MurphTheSurf3

34 minutes ago

Murph good idea, the article essentially using a few of his quotes in relation to what Trump is trying to do in his effort to destroy democracy.

twilson117

34 minutes ago

TW – The ladies in G who Giuliani defamed got $100 million, right? The Capitol Police were assaulted, threatened, and made to fear for their lives. I could imagine hundreds of millions for them.

AdLib33 minutes ago

Ad the good times for Drump are just begining.

twilson117

32 minutes ago

TW…could you send me your finished article. I do very little in the blogosphere now but I love your writing.

MurphTheSurf3

32 minutes ago

Murph – It was a little uncomfortable, seeing Fani trembling with rage but she dominated the hearing and Trump’s lawyers and set them straight about black women and keeping cash. She stood up to the Trump slime machine and I think Trump and his cronies are going to be sorry they came at her like this, she’s going to crush them in the trial.

AdLib31 minutes ago

Murph I will. Also it will be posted on my website and here on the Planet.

twilson117

31 minutes ago

Ad…..I found the rage an authentic undercurrent.

MurphTheSurf3

30 minutes ago

Thanks TW.

MurphTheSurf3

30 minutes ago

Murph – So the Capitol Police who were protecting the Capitol of the United States…are brainwashed commies because they did their job? Again, so many mentally ill among the MAGA cult.

AdLib29 minutes ago

I need to let you both know that I will not be long here tonight…..we had a big snow storm here and I was on the road for most of it……driving here can be challenging with so many hills and valleys and a government that is slow to do what it needs to do.

MurphTheSurf3

28 minutes ago

Murph – Yes, very authentic and justified. Jared Kushner gave classified info to MBS so he could murder and dismember a journalist then gets his payoff of $2 billion. And yet Fani Willis should be destroyed as corrupt for going on a vacation with her boyfriend? Repubs are so twisted.

AdLib27 minutes ago

Ad…since these people believe that it was FBI plants who provoked the crowd to its rage…anything is possible.

MurphTheSurf3

27 minutes ago

Murph – How long did it take you to get home?

AdLib27 minutes ago

Yes Ad….and where is that Kushner investigation.

MurphTheSurf3

27 minutes ago

Murph – I know you can’t discuss anything logically with these typpes but how can they simultaneously say it was all FBI and Antifa on 1/6 and yet all the people being tried and convicted are MAGAs?

AdLib26 minutes ago

Ad….I went to a clinic with two neighbors who wanted/needed to have someone to help them navigate tests and consultation. We left here at 10. AM and got back at 6 PM…..the clinic is normally 45 minutes away.

MurphTheSurf3

25 minutes ago

Murph – Indeed. It is such a blatant case of corruption to see Kushner get his bribe so openly yet no investigation. I assume Garland feels prosecuting Trump is enough on the DoJ’s plate.

AdLib25 minutes ago

Murph that sounds like a heck of a storm

twilson117

24 minutes ago