Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events, begins tonight at 7:00pm PDT. Hope to see you then! AdLib 2 hours ago

Hey Harleigh! AdLib an hour ago

How are you doing today? AdLib an hour ago

hey ad! good. hurricane missed us! Harleigh an hour ago

That’s great news! I thought you were okay, seems like the southwest coast got the worst of it. AdLib an hour ago

Ft. Myers and Cape Corral look devastated. AdLib an hour ago

Hey Murph! AdLib an hour ago

yep, ft meyers to melborne. 150mph catastrophic. Harleigh an hour ago

Hi MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Hope glenn is okay! Don’t remember which part of FL she moved to. AdLib an hour ago

Harleigh – So no problems your way? AdLib an hour ago

Glenn! Yes…..thought of her last night. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph – Do you remember where in FL she moved? AdLib an hour ago

Sorry but I do not…she told us on one our night conversations. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

I sure hope she’s okay. AdLib an hour ago

i got a friend in cape coral. newer homes in higher areas were ok… some areas went down like dominoes. ian same latitude 100 miles west Harleigh an hour ago

Think of the madness that building on Sanibel represents. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

sanibel is fucked. the only bridge is gone Harleigh an hour ago

Harleigh – Yes, it seems like many of the folks I’m seeing interviewed from Cape Corral and Ft. Myers are not wealthy-looking, many lived in RVs and such. Devastating for these people who lost most of all they had. AdLib an hour ago

Hi everyone. HARLEIGH – haven’t seen you in forever! choicelady an hour ago

hi hon! Harleigh an hour ago

There are places that should not rebuild….it is going to get worse as the impact of warming oceans generates more and more of these terrifying storms. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Hello Choice! MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

How did you cope? I had totally forgotten glenn is now in FL. Hope she’s OK. This was just horrid. choicelady an hour ago

Hi Ad and Murph, hope all is well with you. choicelady an hour ago

Harleigh are you OK? choicelady an hour ago

I was telling my wife tonight how angry I am at the corruption that allowed building in an area that was a known flood plain and surely destroyed eventually. The developers grabbed the cash, bribed the politicians and they all made out great and are probably smiling about the “suckers” they left in their wake. AdLib an hour ago

Hey CL! AdLib an hour ago

CL…..doing ok. My candidate in Il is killing it. I was at the Madison Cnty JFK dinner last night and she was terrific. Polling, what little we have, is very encouraging. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

we’re fine here Harleigh an hour ago

The legacy of FL corruption goes back at least to Hurricane Andrew. Failed adherence to building codes cost people their homes. choicelady an hour ago

Murph – that is excellent news! choicelady an hour ago

CL….I agree with you….and DeSantis is part and party to that scheme. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Harleigh – whew – big relief! choicelady an hour ago

DeSantis is possibly even worse than Trump on the corruption scale. choicelady an hour ago

Murph – I think some tough action is needed. Help bail out the residents of that area then tell FL to either avoid rebuilding or repopulating there or Feds won’t bail out FL in the future. As you say Murph, that area will be underwater in a matter of decades anyway, they should not be allowed to rebuild. And what insurance companies will insure homes there again? And any that do will charge premiums that are too much to afford. We have to change along with the changes of Climate Change. AdLib an hour ago

Ad….you sum up my thoughts very well. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

desantis, scott and rubio will steal a lot of aid money. Harleigh an hour ago

Murph – Great news about Nikki! I’m getting my share of emails from her campaign after donating so they’re working it! AdLib an hour ago

I think FL needs a conservator who monitors every federal penny. Sort of the Britany Spears of states. choicelady an hour ago

lol Harleigh an hour ago

CL – I saw a segment on Chris Hayes, Cape Coral began being sold in the early 1860s but went through huge debvelopment recently. It was the 6th fastest growing county in the US! This is insanity! AdLib an hour ago

CL – Agreed, I think DeSantis isn’t as distracted from evil as Trump is by his narcissism. DeSantis is coagulated evil. AdLib an hour ago

CL – Very funny!!! AdLib an hour ago

Carl Hiaasen, the novelist version, has books that focus on rampant expansion and the damage it’s doing. He’s very fun as a “mystery” writer with a profoundly aggressive smackdown of FL developers choicelady an hour ago

Ad – great comment – DeSantis coagulated evil. Brilliant! choicelady an hour ago

Crist needs to beat DeSantis. I was wondering as an ancillary issue, might this and the suffering of Floridians help tarnish DeSantis who just threw away $12M on flying asylum seekers to MA? And spent millions on a stunt, sending FL Natl Guard to the TX border? And focused on barring non-existent CRT teaching and saying “gay”? AdLib an hour ago

Trump always acts like the kid caught out doing wrong – he’s defensive. DeSantis is the kid with zero conscience who isn’t fazed that he’s caught just so he doesn’t pay. No conscience at all. choicelady an hour ago

I must say that all you guys have named, claimed, and framed the power of the corrupt at heart to live a corrupt life and to spread the contagion associated with it. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Trump is a psychopath. DeSantis is a sociopath. choicelady an hour ago

CL….interesting distinction. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

both are magats Harleigh an hour ago

Harleigh – well, you can’t be a mentally well person and be a Magat. choicelady an hour ago

CL – A functional US Gov’t should start deeming flood zones and fire zones around the country as nationally restricted and use eminent domain to help relocate people to safe homes and neighborhoods. Plenty of areas in CA where they have build huge developments right where fires break out repeatedly and have to be rebuilt. Government is supposed to protect lives, property and billions of tax dollars thrown away on Climate Change disaster zones. AdLib an hour ago

Harleigh as in MAGA – ATS? MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Thanks CL! AdLib an hour ago

yep Harleigh an hour ago

AD….your ex of CA rebuilding on top of the cinders….reminds us all that corrupt practice is not a one party item. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

CL – Good point, DeSantis is a textbook sociopath. Trump is a sociopath but narcissism seems to be what drives him instead of DeSantis’ lust for power. AdLib an hour ago

Ad – agreed. I live plunk in the middle of a safe zone – no earthquake faults, no forests, low flood risk – not much of anything, but I am reasonably sure that while I’ve traded natural beauty for safety, others have not and this demands some reflection. choicelady an hour ago

Murph – As have you (named, claimed and framed it…and nice phrase there!). AdLib an hour ago

Trump still has guilt – his raging against being caught shows that. DeSantis does not GAF. About anything or anyone. choicelady an hour ago

To start moving everyone from miami beach and Hialeah would be huge and everything within 3-5 miles of the beach in a house built before the 1993 hurricane codes will be slammed by a cat3-5 Harleigh an hour ago

Murph – Exactly, it isn’t a Repub or Dem thing, the corruption that has led to communities being built in vulnerable and endangered areas should be arrested and reversed. It makes no sense, for the residents or the taxpayers who have to keep paying to rebuild homes that will get knocked down again in a matter of years. AdLib an hour ago

Murph – we all want to be surrounded by natural beauty. It’s not working anymore due to massive overcrowding and poor prep. Hardly anyone keeps the 100 foot zone around their homes. They have to take responsibility for that. choicelady an hour ago

I was part of a GOTV planning meeting two days ago. One of the group leaders is a voter-guru….been studying the trends for 30 years as an academic at U of I Champaign Urbana. He regularly reminds us that we are dealing with an electorate that is, as a whole misinformed, deluded and easily manipulate….worse on the right but still part of the terrain on the left. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

miami area is going underwater. Harleigh an hour ago

Murph – wise person from Champaign. choicelady an hour ago

Harleigh…good plan. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Harleigh – and there will be thousands who deny as they sink that this is abnormal…glub, glub, glub… choicelady an hour ago

yep Harleigh an hour ago

CL….and with that reminder about the impact of a growing population that puts pressure on every aspect of our environment. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

I remember after Vietnam my mother was teaching and coming home furious at the dumbed down curriculum she was being given. Upper middle class white school district with very stupid kids and even more stupid parents who thought that was OK. It was heavily GOP, and the parents didn’t WANT smart kids who rebelled and challenged the powers that be. choicelady an hour ago