Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events starts tonight at 7:00pm PDT. Hope to see you then! AdLib 3 hours ago

Hey glenn! Happy Georgia Day! AdLib an hour ago

Hey Ad–Indeed! A happy day in Georgia! We found a repuke with integrity! glenn an hour ago

And djtrumpjr has COVID 19! So sad! glenn an hour ago

Greetings Glenn and Ad! MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Hi Murph! How are you? glenn an hour ago

Hey Murph! AdLib an hour ago

Hey PPO! AdLib an hour ago

Hey PPO–How are you and Fergie? glenn an hour ago

Happy Birthday, Joe! pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Glenn…dad’s legacy for his heir. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Doing ok….. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

PPO….and Fergie……feeling better? MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Hi everyone. Fergoi is OK just now, DG. We’re muttering along as usual. pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Murph–what a legacy. Is it wrong of me to hope jr. gets very, very sick? glenn an hour ago

glenn – Your SoS may be the last decent Republican in government! AdLib an hour ago

Love that the Mi GOP told Trump where to shove it pinkpantheroz an hour ago

PPO–Glad you’re here with us. glenn an hour ago

..or was it Wi? pinkpantheroz an hour ago

PPO – Good to hear Fergie is okay but hope she feels better and better. AdLib an hour ago

Ad–No kidding. A decent repuke is hard to find. glenn an hour ago

The governor here got jeered at by the state press corps for his unwillingness to speak honestly about the need for state wide making, distancing, sanitizing, and limiting gatherings. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

thanks, glenn. missed last week, but that was a one off, thank goodness. Future eye injections will be on fridays pinkpantheroz an hour ago

PPO–If you’re talking about the repukes who told the RTLB they would follow the law, then it is MI. glenn an hour ago

Mi it was! Thanks g pinkpantheroz an hour ago

The dam is really breaking. Repubs coming out at a trickle so far but it will soon be a flash flood as they try to get out of the Coup Camp before it collapses on them. AdLib an hour ago

BRB… AdLib an hour ago

Don’t trust Romney! pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Murph–I have a question for you. Wasn’t the electoral college set up for exactly what the RTLB wants it to do? IOW, thwart the will of the people if the electors determined that voters didn’t know what was “best”? glenn an hour ago

Glenn I found the Michiganders who came to the WH today response wonderful…”nothing to see here, learned nothing that alters our voting….” the thud in the background was Trump faceplanting. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph–repuke governors are going to be repuke governors. glenn an hour ago

Glenn….electors were named by the state legislature qne MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph

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Murph – Good to hear, your Gov is as destructive as they come. AdLib an hour ago

Someone mentioned onTwitter that an 1800 law obliges the States to declare for the Pop vote winners. Against the law to do otherwise. So can we relax a little? pinkpantheroz an hour ago

PPO – Oh no, don’t turn your back on Romney, he knows exactly what sharp utensil he can insert into it. AdLib an hour ago

Glenn…electors were named by the state legislatures and were to follow following trends in their states…recall that only men, almost all white, and property owners could vote. The legislatures set the rules for elector conduct. In very little time electors were bound to specific candidates and voting for the candidate meant voting for electors who suppported that candidate. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

–why anyone would think they would learn anything by going to meet with the RTLB is beyond me. glenn an hour ago

glenn – The EC is a remnant of slavery, giving states ultimate power over elections…especially black votes. It is archaic and ridiculous. It has to go. AdLib an hour ago

PPO and Glenn…an issue resolved a few years back was that if an elector is “faithless” i.e. does not vote for the candidate they were declared for then they could be punished…..fines, jail? Not clear. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph–so, what was it that “bound” the electors to specific candidates? glenn an hour ago

I love it that the 2 guys statement says they discussed other matters, then just quietly kicked him in the nuts. pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Ad–I agree the EC has to go. I think we discussed this in another VOX, but I forget. Does it require a constitutional amendment to abolish the EC? glenn an hour ago

Glenn….electors declared that they were “for” a candidate ticket. If that ticket won the popular vote those electors were bound to vote for him (and now maybe her) in the electoral college. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Glenn…..EC required. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

My proposal for what Dems should do politically from now until 2024, is promote and get passed in the remaining states needed, the National Popular Vote Bill. They have the majority of 270 EVs through states that have passed it, once it hits 270, the Electoral College will be defunct. Here’s a link: https://www.nationalpopularvote.com/state-status AdLib an hour ago

Glenn….EC elimination requires a change in the constitution. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

So, Murph, I’m still not understanding…sitting low in my seat tonight….what “binds” an elector to a candidate? glenn an hour ago

What Ad is pointing to is what must be done. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph–so electors could decide which candidate they were “for” and were bound to that candidate. What if that candidate did not win the popular vote? glenn an hour ago

Why isn’t lindsay graham not in prison? pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Murph – Check the National Popular Vote Bill out, its passage in sufficient states provides a workaround for ignoring the EC without passing a constitutional amendment. AdLib an hour ago

Ad–Never heard of the National Popular Vote Bill, but that certainly is a good idea. glenn an hour ago

Glenn….the electors declaration that they will vote for candidate A. If A gets the most votes those electors are bound to vote for A. There have been cases of electors being “faithless” (not many) and there have been efforts to hold them to account. SCOTUS has judged this to be constitutional. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

PPO–Lindsay is not in prison because IOIYAR. glenn an hour ago

Of course, g! pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Ad….I have read the bill…..and the workaround is interesting but I think there are grounds for very serious challenges and given the makeup of the SCOTUS now…..well…. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

The way the NPV works is that states agree to commit their EVs to whoever wins the national popular vote. So it doesn’t get rid of the EC but makes it moot and winning states moot. They have states with 196 EVs signed on, as soon as that reaches 270, it becomes active. Don’t forget, 7 out of the last 8 presidential elections, Dems have won the popular vote. AdLib an hour ago

Murph–hopefully, the makeup of SCOTUS will change soon. glenn an hour ago

Ad–That is an interesting workaround of the EC. glenn an hour ago

how about Rudi’s meltdown, fiuratively and literally? RTLB must be totally desperate if Ruby is all he can afford as counsel pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Ad……here is the other side of the NPV debate….https://www.heritage.org/civil-rights/report/the-national-popular-vote-misusing-interstate-compact-bypass-the-constitution MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph – I disagree, the Constitution clearly gives states the right to decide how elections will be run in their states and how electors will be awarded. Nothing in the Constitution to prevent a state deciding to use the national vote as a determining factor. AdLib an hour ago

Ad–the NPV would, it seems to me, prevent the calling of the election until ALL states have voted. glenn an hour ago

Rudy and the other attorneys spin webs of deceit in public appearances and then go to court and spin a lot of nothing because there they are accountable to judges who demand a logical, evidence based argument. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

PPO – While Rudy literally melted down, he caused the rest of Trump’s Clown Car Legal Team to have to quarrantine for COVID. So over the next two weeks as states certify Biden the winner, he has no legal team! AdLib an hour ago

PPO–That meltdown was so bizarre. Didn’t he feel that stuff running down his cheek? It just shows how really stupid Rudy is. glenn an hour ago

From Twitter: Trump just lost Georgia for the third time today, but that’s not even his worst news. A SDNY federal judge just removed the DOJ from ⁦ @ejeancarroll ⁩’s defamation lawsuit and ordered his high priced legal team back on the job at his expense. Oops! pinkpantheroz an hour ago