Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events, begins tonight at 7:00pm PDT tonight. Hope to see you then! AdLib 5 hours ago

see u then pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Ok! AdLib 2 hours ago

We will now play ‘Haven’t A Cluedo” Find the WH people! pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

The kitchen staff are setting the foreign policy, I hear! pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Louie the Fly is the new Vice Prez pro tem pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

I think in the Biden Admin, we’ll find massive COVID infections were going on at this point. AdLib 2 hours ago

hiya Murph pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

In the WH. AdLib 2 hours ago

Hey Murph! AdLib 2 hours ago

Greetings from Wi. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Pence’s hair must’ve appeared to be like white dog poop to that fly. Smart fly! AdLib 2 hours ago

How are things in Wi, Murph? Are we ahead of the posse? pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

the poor fly’s feet got jammed in the hairspray’ pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

I think Christie is very sick, no word on him but he’s still in hospital. Where’s Jared? Rudy? Graham won’t take a test. Wow… AdLib 2 hours ago

… and the eejit wants a 2000 mega dose over the wekend! pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Murph, you’re doing important work right now! AdLib 2 hours ago

What kind of absolute morons would go to a rally with a confirmed COVID infected Typhoid Trumpy? AdLib 2 hours ago

Hey glenn! AdLib 2 hours ago

glenn! pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

The October surprise is ‘But her emails’? pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Yeah, I guess Hillary may take a hit in the polls now. AdLib 2 hours ago

Evenin/afternoon gents! I don’t know about you all, but I for one, am so glad that dear leader, otherwise known as RTLB or my new name, Covidiot45, is such a fine specimen of health that he beat COVID in less than 2 weeks. It’s a miracle, I tell you!

glenn 2 hours ago

Other than that, hope everyone else is doing just as well. glenn 2 hours ago

glenn – assisted by stem cells from aborted fetuses, beloved by the fundamentalist faux christians pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Murph, what is the local reaction to that dumb militia? pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

PPO….the efforts by the GOP to suppress the vote, to misrepresent the vote, and to alter the vote are reprehensible. The state has a smart Democratic governor who is stymied by a GOP legislature. The most recent action has a federal appellate court striking down a ruling that requires that ballots postmarked by a certain date must be counted until the vote is certified. The GOP has put forth a date well before that. The court has sided with them. Given problems with the USPS this is a serious matter. More court action is planned but the team I work with is trying to accelerate the return rate on mail in ballots, early voting on site and support services for the day of voting. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Hi everyone! choicelady 2 hours ago

glenn – I’ll bet they drained the blood froom immigrant children to replace Trump’s. AdLib 2 hours ago

Hi, CL pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Hi PPO. Hi Ad, glenn, Murph – good to see everyone! choicelady 2 hours ago

PPO–Oh, puleeze. Apparently, the fundamentalists’ god works in mysterious ways. glenn 2 hours ago

Ad – I was just reading a thread from “Angry Staffer” on Twitter that says Trump is in VERY bad shape physically. choicelady 2 hours ago

Hello Glenn and Choice…. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

glenn yes, it sure looks that way. pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Hi CL–how are you tonight? glenn 2 hours ago

Murph – That is all we can do to deal with the GOP attempt to deny votes, early vote and drop boxes for mail in ballots i states that count ahead of time. AdLib 2 hours ago

Hey CL! AdLib 2 hours ago

glenn – the fundie god is money, so you can see how that might not be helpful. choicelady 2 hours ago

Doing fine, glenn. How are you? choicelady 2 hours ago

glad, the 2nd debate isn’t happening. Joe will be safe pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

CL–So how does the “angry staffer” know the difference? Covidiot45 has always been in bad shape physically! glenn 2 hours ago

What we are saying is…..work to get a fair vote….but assume the R’s are going to cheat…..that we will have to swamp them. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

At least Walter reed got one thing right – 322lbs! pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

CL – I bet that the side effects from everything pumped into Trump will come down on him soon, the speed high from the steroid that he’s still taking will eventually fall off and he will crash like a wingless plane. AdLib 2 hours ago

PPO….322 lbs…really. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

yep. published pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

CL–What’s not helpful? The stem cells? glenn 2 hours ago

CL–It’s a rainy night in Georgia and I’m fine. glenn 2 hours ago

Murph – Exactly, plan on Repubs being able to delay votes in the mail and sue to block counting on Election Day. Vote early or risk everything. AdLib 2 hours ago

PPO – That was around my guess at Trump’s actual weight. We should have started a pool. AdLib 2 hours ago

PPO–I wanted the 2nd debate to happen without Covidiot45. Joe should’ve answered all the questions that were going to be posed. I think the Committee should have gone ahead with it, with or without the Covidiot45. But I agree, I am glad Joe will be safe. glenn 2 hours ago

All of the republican attempts to interfere with the voting means only one thing to me – that they know they can’t win a dog catchers job without cheating. pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

glenn, I’d have loved Joe to get 90 minutes of Town Hall as well, but it is best. pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Did you all see this: 56 percent say they are better off today than four years ago while 32 percent say they are worse off . Any thoughts? MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

PPO and Murph–that 322 lbs is fake news! glenn 2 hours ago

murph, Fake Poll! pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Murph–that is a scary poll. How are they better off? glenn 2 hours ago

Glenn…..is it….. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

murph, check the percentages – a mirror of the real figures. pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Murph – Outlier poll, pay no heed. No sane person thinks whoo’s living under COVID, havinng pay or job cut and protests in the streets thinks, “Man, I am loving this!” AdLib 2 hours ago

The poll….could be a reflection on the Cares Act…… MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

PPO…the figures are accurate not reversed. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Is the weight thing for Trump wrong? fake? A 300 plus number seems about right to me. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Nope, we’ve seen many polls showing a wide majority thinks the country is on the wrong track. Many polls. Then one says this? Disregard. Same with the poll showing Biden ahead in FL by double digits, another outlier. AdLib 2 hours ago

Murph–actually, I think the weight figure is correct, just parroting the Covidiot45. glenn 2 hours ago

Wow. Snopes also says the weight thing is false. Sorry for spreading BS.. pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

PPO–Where did the figure come from? glenn 2 hours ago

WR haven’t released the records, so no one really knows, but he sure looks that size pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

One thing we have seen here is a lot of monetary and service support from all over the state…including areas that have been GOP for a long time…many farm districts. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Murph – check out the RCP avg on right track/wrong track – 31% Right Track vs. 62% wrong track. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/direction_of_country-902.html AdLib 2 hours ago

Murph – that is VERY good news from “the front” on help from typically GOP areas. choicelady 2 hours ago

Murph–correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t WI one of the most reliable Dem states until Walker and his cronies came in? glenn 2 hours ago

Ad….know that poll avg…..the gallup one would not taken seriously if it were not gallup. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Trump is over 300 lbs, whether that report is genuine or not. AdLib 2 hours ago

But, it’s good news that the tide is turning. glenn 2 hours ago

agree, ad. pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

glenn – WI has a highly weird history. VERY liberal at times, Joe McCarthy at others. choicelady 2 hours ago

Murph – Not healthy to panic over outlier polls. That poll doesn’t match any other poll. The key to polls is trends of multiple polls, not holding up ay one poll as accurate. AdLib 2 hours ago

cl, I think it all hangs on whether the Packers are having a good year. pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

CL–That’s right, I forgot about McCarthy! Perhaps it was just liberal in certain areas. glenn 2 hours ago

Many people here have awakened to the sad fact that this state which was the birthplace of the LaFollette Progressive Movement has moved into the army of the likes of Joe McCarthy…the GOP Legislature is awful. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

PPO – good to have a scientific explanation. Thank you! choicelady 2 hours ago


pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Murph – WI, PA and TX may have the most fascist Repub leadership in the country. AdLib 2 hours ago

Murph–As it seems to be when the GOP holds absolute power, they go too far. glenn 2 hours ago

Murph – just read that the terrorists from MI were trying to recruit their ilk from WI for a multi pronged assault on several states, one of which is WI. Any feedback on that? choicelady 2 hours ago

WI also claimed the awful Paul Ryan. AdLib 2 hours ago

glenn – that is indeed my read on the GOP. choicelady 2 hours ago

Ad – may I correct that: “The ever odious Paul Ryan.” choicelady 2 hours ago

Ad–So…where is little Paulie these days? glenn 2 hours ago

Who was it during the week who said that Democracy wasn’t good? pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

glenn – washing clean pans at soup kitchens for photo ops. All he knows how to do. choicelady 2 hours ago

CL–May I add..”the ever odious lyin’ Paul Ryan.” glenn 2 hours ago

PPO – Churchill said that, too – but it’s way ahead of all other systems. choicelady 2 hours ago

CL – Saw some expert on MSNBC say that this terrorist cell may represent only 10%-15% of what’s going on out there right now. Their plan was to attack before the election, I imagine there may be other cells that plan the same thing, to disrupt and try to destroy the election. AdLib 2 hours ago

glenn, I will accept Lyin'” as his middle name, sure. choicelady 2 hours ago

A member of the state senate represents the district where our planning office is located. She had undertaken a program of harassment meant to push us out utilizing a variety of tactics including police harassment, pressure on our landlord, and nearby shop owners. Before I arrived, we got a cease and desist order from a local court which the legislator is now appealing. So, our leader got a pr group to put together a info sheet for everyone in contact with the situation and named the names. We have also established a policy of filming everything that goes on here and always having any conversation witnessed by two others. . MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

CL and glenn – Yes! Odious, lying and snivelling. AdLib 2 hours ago

PPO–He didn’t quite say democracy wasn’t good. Senator Mike Lee said democracy isn’t the objective. glenn 2 hours ago

CL–if the shoe fits…. glenn 2 hours ago

i stand corrected, glenn pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Ad – I’m part of the group watching in CA. We are worried for sure. An organization with ZERO involvement in politics is the national association of pet sitters, and they are warning members to have at least 2 months worth of pet food per animal because they think no matter WHO wins, we will have chaos. When groups such as that get upset, we have a problem. choicelady 2 hours ago

Ad…did you see that some leaders in law enforcement in Mi have come out in support of “due process and justice” re. the accused suggesting that their motives may be misunderstood and that what they were doing is setting out to arrest the governor, not kidnap her. Law enforcement. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Murph – That is a sincerely fascist act. No wonder Trump and Repubs hate anti-fascists. AdLib 2 hours ago

Murph–Holy repukes! That’s terrible! Repukes are just awful! Glad to hear your group is taking precautions! glenn an hour ago

Please be very carreful, Murph pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Murph – yes I saw that sheriff. Kidnapping isn’t arrest, and there is NO felony with which she has been or could be charged. Greg and I are already seeing the use of “citizen arrest” as the next tactic for the terrorists since filing phony liens on officials has failed. choicelady an hour ago

PPO and glenn – Hate to keep repeating the term but how would fascism be defended any more than insisting that democracy isn’t the objective? The state will decide what you should have and do. AdLib an hour ago

Murph – dollars to donuts that sheriff is an Oath Keeper or Constitutional Sheriff. He’s dead wrong about the law. choicelady an hour ago

Ad–sniveling is another good addition. glenn an hour ago

Ad – the state senator apparently came by trying to make nice….cookies and candy and saccharine smile. Our office director said that we had no interest in pretending that she and her staff were not “sworn to undermine and undo democracy in our state” and she asked her to leave taking her sweets with her. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

So the Militias are adopting Sovereign state tactics. This is potentially deadly. pinkpantheroz an hour ago

CL – You remember, I said months ago, everyone should stock up for the end of the year because the possibility of social upheavel along with COVID spikes could make things very difficult. AdLib an hour ago

Ad and everyone – This discussion on democracy can be explained by reading Nancy MacLean’s “Democracy in Chains” about the march of rancid Libertarianism. It’s a MUST read book. She does not unite this movement w the religious right, but I’ve read articles where she then showed the grudging but agreeable fusion of the two with the goal of fascism, zero rights for people only for property. choicelady an hour ago

Ad – I’m already taking you “end of the year clearance sale” advice. choicelady an hour ago

your advice choicelady an hour ago

We just bought a freezer. Now for the solar generator… choicelady an hour ago

And in the background behavior that is clearly mad from Trump and his minions. COVID fever, Steroid Exhaustion, Panic, all of the above….and his mien is being mirrored by his disciples. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Ad–remember that term, “it’s okay if you’re a republican”? Well, apparently, democracy is only for the libs. If repukes say it’s not fascism, then it’s not fascism. glenn an hour ago

Murph – Yes, I saw that sheriff defending the “right” to kidnap and hold private trials for Gov and other Dems. He’s in a very RW, Trump district. Still, he needs to go. AdLib an hour ago

glenn – sorry, I’ve decided I and my friends get to say what’s fascism. The GOP can suck eggs. choicelady an hour ago

CL…I have perused McClean’s effort…..on my “fully read” list. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

CL – Very interesting, I will read it! AdLib an hour ago

CL–I read that he’s a “constitutional sheriff”, and that the MI AG shot him down about so-called “citizens’ arrest”. She said it was illegal, period. Apparently, the terrorists were going to kidnap her and hold a “trial”, where, of course, the verdict was already pre-determined. glenn an hour ago

Murph – there is a shorter article on economis James M. Buchanan in the Atlantic that mentions her book and discusses his role in all this. To my great relief he’s DEAD. But the Kochs backed Buchanan. Still after the end goal. So when people tout “republic” v “democracy” that’s what lies behind it. choicelady an hour ago

glenn – yes, the terrorists had no interest in turning her over. Kangaroo court all the way. choicelady an hour ago

Murph–oh snap! Good for your office director! It’s probably best you didn’t eat any of the cookies, no telling what was in them! glenn an hour ago

The GOP is appearing to be a political a Augean Stable and the effort to clean it out and up will be Herculean. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

CL–Thanks for the recommendation. glenn an hour ago

Murph – Handled very well. What evil people. Walking around thinking they’re righteous while trying to oppress people and democracy. She can stick those cookies and candy where even that fly can’t find them. AdLib an hour ago

Murph – your classical eduction is showing! choicelady an hour ago

Ad–oh, the fly! glenn an hour ago

Tim Snyder’s “On Tyranny” is a fine study…..I think he nails the motivations that drive Trump to exercise authoritarian tactics. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph – I think the question is not if but when Trump totally blows up from all of this. Maybe not until the Lame Duck period, maybe before the election. I think it is happening though. AdLib an hour ago

Ad….our office director is, I think, a spiritual sister of our own CL! MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

The officce is in good hans, then, Murph! pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Thanks CL….I just noted that our office director is a spiritual sister of your own crusading self. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

glenn – I vote for the fly over Pence! choicelady an hour ago

CL–You and your friends don’t have to decide what is fascism. There is a perfectly good definition of fascism, and the repukes fit the definition well. I hope the eggs the GOP sucks are rotten! glenn an hour ago

glenn – Exactly, for these fascist Repubs, democracy is only legiit when it puts them in power. Otherwise, it is a fraud that they are entitled to cheat against. AdLib an hour ago

4 weeks to go and there is zilch coming out of the WH. Is anyone left there? pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Ad….if Trump completely goes off the rails he could do some truly horrible things….devastating things….who’s to stop him….once again….our vaunted constitution is not up to the challenge. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

glenn – oh I agree on the definition, but I mean in political arguments, WE, the PEOPLE get to name it! choicelady an hour ago

PPO – per Angry Staffer the numbers in the WH are dwindling, the Resident is VERY sick which is why he’s not seen, and when the steroids wear off, he will crash and burn. choicelady an hour ago

Anyone know what Nancy Pelosi’s plan is? pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Ad–I hope Covidiot45 literally blows up! But, I’ll settle for him being so sick he can’t talk, verbally, at least. He’ll always have twitter. glenn an hour ago

PPO – No. I just trust she will do whatever she does very well. choicelady an hour ago

Murph – Can’t think of a better compliment for your office director than being in the vein of the amazing CL! AdLib an hour ago

CL….Angry Staffer……does it all ring true……does to me. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph – I am coming to MO one find day to meet her. choicelady an hour ago

Murph – yes, I didn’t follow him/her until reading things that were then verified. All seems quite genuine. choicelady an hour ago

PPO – Closer to 3 weeks until the election! Hurry up, Time! Can’t wait for Election Day. Turnout for Early Voting is amazing right now. I think Biden will win by far bigger margins than expected. AdLib an hour ago

CL….she is in Wi. where I am now……she is a retired academic like myself who has dedicated her life to restoring the progressive spirit in Wisconsin. She wears a button that says……A Proud Progressive From the Heartland. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph – I think Pelosi’s proposed biill today for Congress to have a commission to recommend the use of the 25th Amendment was partially a political jab at Trump but also recoognition that Trump will go mad after the election and he will need to be stopped. AdLib an hour ago

Murph – you office manager is in WI not MO, right? I keep forgetting you’re already there. So I will come there to meet her. Is she short? I ask because I am, and a friend raised the Midsummer Night’s Dream line, “Though she be but little, she be fierce.” Guess that’s my lot in life because I AM short and fierce. choicelady an hour ago

My friends in Missouri tell me that Biden Harris yard signs are popping up in red zones and that Bidden Harris buttons are also making an appearance…..with MAGA hats rare site and few Trump flags. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph–read an interesting article right before I came here. A director of the Federalist Society has written an op-ed saying Covidiot45 should be impeached, after he (Covidiot45) tweeted that the election should be postponed. The Federalist director was pissed, and actually said Covidiot45 had no authority to change the Constitution, and therefore should be impeached! Here’s the link: www.forbes.com/sites/mattperez/2020/07/30/… glenn an hour ago

sorry, it’s a founder of the FS. glenn an hour ago

glenn – that’s stunning! The founder advocates Covid45 being IMPEACHED??? Wow. choicelady an hour ago

CL–Yup. And WE the PEOPLE get to vote it out, too! glenn an hour ago

CL……she is very tall and thin……her nickname is Morticia (like Morticia Addams) and she has a very droll and biting verbal style. Fierce and subtle. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

I hate to say it but we may need to rely on our military to step in and protect the nation from a genuinely insane Trump. At least, Govs may need to call out the Natioonal Guard. AdLib an hour ago

CL–Haven’t you heard? Covidiot45 appeared on Tucker Carlson tonight and said he’s off all medications, and is fine! glenn an hour ago

Just pray that the earliest results project an electoral College overflow for Joe to stop any major upheaval pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Ad – Milley, Chair of Jt. Chiefs will NOT let the active military be used AGAINST the people, and will not allow the Guard to be federalized either. So the states get to keep control. Recalling Kent State, that’s not always good, but it’s a damned sight better. choicelady an hour ago

Glenn….an article worth reading….I wonder if the current leadership of the federalist society agrees with him given their advocacy of a slate of candidates for the federal judiciary who are a miserable lot. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

And the sick thing is that the GOP would slavishly support Trump trying to execute a coup over our democracy. If this happens, we eed Nuremburg style trials of all the Repubs who assisted or supported in any way, the overthrow oof the U.S.. AdLib an hour ago

glenn, how did he sound? Like on Hanity? pinkpantheroz an hour ago

glenn – did he cough his way through this time? According to Angry Staffer, Trump is on LOTS of meds, I mostly in bed, and stages green screen things for the gullible. choicelady an hour ago

Murph – Love too hear that about Biden/Harris signs popping up and MAGA hats disappearing! AdLib an hour ago

yes, Murph, great Mo news. pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Ad–Hopefully, Biden’s margins will be so overwhelming that even if Covidiot45 disputes, repubs will finally shut him down. glenn an hour ago

Any thoughts on what Barr and the DOJ appear to be NOT DOING in the production of a legal assault on Dems in October as the Surprise for this election? MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Ad – the USA will not hold the Nuremberg trials but the Hague WILL. It’s important that a nation NOT prosecute its own for human rights violations to keep it from becoming another division. choicelady an hour ago

CL – Yes, National Guard is best but Trump may plan on declaring Insurrection Act and try to seize NG from states. AdLib an hour ago

Murph – Angry Staffer says Barr is VERY sick. choicelady an hour ago

Murph, hopefully Barr may have enough on his mind avoiding jail. pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Ad – Milley already said they will refuse to respond to a patently partisan and political order. choicelady an hour ago

Murph–Probably the founder just wants Covidiot45 out. The slates of judges are an entirely different matter. Perhaps they’re hoping to hold on to the Senate, so they can continue to pack the courts. But it is an interesting article. glenn an hour ago

CL….astute as always. I am sure Morticia would agree….by the way, she is an attorney whose specialty is ethics in government…..professor at University of Wisconsin. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Where’s Bannon? Slitheing behind the floorboards? pinkpantheroz an hour ago

slithering. pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Murph – she sounds VERY wonderful! choicelady an hour ago

CL–Yup. I was amazed, too! glenn an hour ago

PPO – Bannon’s too fat to slither. choicelady an hour ago

glenn – That’s what we have to both hope and work towards. Biden needs to win decisively by big margins so Trump’s plans t overthrow the election are thwarted. I think he will. The momentum is clear, Trump keeps losing support, Biden keeps gaining. And even deep red states are movinng towards competitive! AdLib an hour ago

CL….she and I have chatted about you as well. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

CL….she has similar thoughts about yourself. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

I’d love to connect with her after the election, Murph! choicelady an hour ago

Murph – II think Barr has some awful plans but also may see that Biden is going to win no matter what. Could he now be worried about being criminnally prosecuted for his crimes ad not want to commit more? AdLib an hour ago

CL–I don’t know if Covidiot45 coughed during the interview. I just read a brief synopsis before I came here. He supposedly appeared in person. And foxsocallednews was advertising it as a “live physical exam”, but I don’t think that really happened; just a fox toady doctor asking him questions. glenn an hour ago

CL…..possible…..I can raise the idea……she is a whirlwind and makes me look like a first class slacker….. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

She and I can be the yin and yang of Fierce Women. choicelady an hour ago

Well, next week could be pivotal in what happens to #WhatsHisName and the other felons COVID-wise. Not too long to Nov 3, but it is dragging bigly! pinkpantheroz an hour ago

CL – I hope the ICC does go after all those committing crimes against humanity in the Trump Admin. Including Rod Rosenstein. AdLib an hour ago

Murph–not sure if this answers your question or not, but I read today that the DOJ approved investigation into the “Russian thing” will not disclose its’ results until after the election. glenn an hour ago

Ad – I understand the ICC already has indictments out on some, but I don’t know who. choicelady an hour ago

CL…my impression is that she is in charge of our office because the state party was able to convince her that we needed her authority, her connections, and her energy to keep the office from being undermined….that seems to have been a good call….and like many women she is a natural at drawing together team action. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

CL–If Barr is very sick; that’s good news! glenn an hour ago

glenn – they keep wanting to call “treason” on Obama and Biden when IF they had “spied” on Trump’s campaign, did nothing wrong. He wasn’t president. Hence – no treason. choicelady an hour ago

CL – Right, Milley said that but if Trump gives the order for these terrorist militias to attack America and there is madness and havoc, the military may need to step in to protect America and Americans. AdLib an hour ago

Bannon was arrested for fraud, remember? AdLib an hour ago

There is a traitor and his name is Trump. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

AD, he’s there, anyway. His tentacles are wide pinkpantheroz an hour ago

PPO….and his testicles are tiny. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

CL – That would explain why Trump and Barr pushed the attack and sanctions against the ICC.\ AdLib an hour ago

Ad – I think the various branches of the military would know the difference between waging war on us and on terrorists. The oath is very clear – enemies foreign AND domestic. Resident may wish it were the other way around, but it’s not. I have high regard for the professionalism and ethics of the Joint Chiefs. choicelady an hour ago

Murph–Morticia sounds like a fantastic woman. After her duties there are done, you should convince her to join our little group here at VOX. It sounds as though she would be a great addition. Another fierce woman like CL is a plus! glenn an hour ago

What do WE make of the money problems the GOP is having. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Ad – that is EXACTLY why they attacked the ICC. I think they’re named with respect to the kids in cages. choicelady an hour ago

glenn – you’re no slouch as a Fierce Woman! choicelady an hour ago

CL–Well…we all know that covidiot45 has no idea what treason actually is. glenn an hour ago

Glenn….I will certainly pass the idea on. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

OK, lads and ladettes, see you all next week. I love this! Muhahahaha! pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Murph – I’m thrilled the GOP is in bankruptcy stage. Not fooled that they aren’t regrouping and looking for a new Federalist Savior, but for the moment, this is good. choicelady an hour ago

“Night PPO – great to see you! Be well down there. choicelady an hour ago

CL….my impression is that the monied powers want Biden…..more stable, and better plans for real growth. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

CL – Agreed, I am not as concerned about the military being ordered to attack innocent Americans, I think they would be OUR army. But the militias, Trump’s secret police, ICE, Homeland Security, there could be a broad assault on the country by law enforcement under Trump and Barr’s control. The military may have to stop them. AdLib an hour ago

So Long Aussie Man! MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph–I’m hoping that the money problems are a direct result of people finally seeing the fascism of the GOP. glenn an hour ago

will do, cl. things getting better slowly pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Murph – that is my understanding. The greed merchants may have finally matured a bit. choicelady an hour ago

Cheerio, PPO! glenn an hour ago

CL–Coming from you, that is one of the best compliments I have ever received. glenn an hour ago

CL – Justice and prosecutions will be very important to repair this nation. I like (and previously suggested) Swalwell’s proposition of a crimes commission on Trump’s reign after Biden takes over. And Trump will go down for crimes in NY if pardoned by Pence. AdLib an hour ago

All – I remember when ACA was implemented, all the screechers said the insurance companies would sabotage it, but they traded stability and regular income for high profits that were uncertain and erratic. That IS a thread in capitalism – stability over high reward coupled with high risk. choicelady an hour ago

Murph–I agree about the monied powers. Read an article the other day that even Fox Business News says that Biden would be better for the stock market and for the economy. glenn an hour ago

A friend, retired FBI, tells me that the talk at the Bureau is that the mid level agents are chafing at the bit ready to go after all who have tarnished the bureaus name and undermined its mission and effectiveness. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Ad – I support Swalwell’s idea, but crimes against humanity belong at the Hague. choicelady an hour ago

Murph–go FBI! glenn an hour ago

CL – And Wall Street is coming out in support of Biden, both for his economic plan that will help rescue the country…and because they want influence in the next president’s admin. AdLib an hour ago

Mruph – GREAT to read that! I have a lot of first hand personal respect for the FBI. I’ve had my own “agents” helping with various problems, and I have liked them very much. choicelady an hour ago

Well, folks, I’m going to follow PPO out the door. Take care, all. See you next week if the creek don’t rise and the rhubarb don’t come in cans. glenn an hour ago

Ad – I am sure they want influence, but they have now to abide by rules and tamp down the greed. They trade that for stability, and I think they want stability. choicelady an hour ago

A Sad SIdenote….WI has had two record dies re. COVID Confirmation rates…..which makes the work of those campaigning for Biden and the entire democratic ticket even more heroic. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph – That makes so much sense, that’s what I was thinking, there must be so many in the FBI and U.S. Atty offices who can’t wait to take down Trump and his cronies (and Russia) after having their hands tied and being attacked for 4 years straight. AdLib an hour ago

Good night, glenn! Lovely to see you, Fierce Woman! choicelady an hour ago

Murph – that IS scary, and I’m sorry. choicelady an hour ago

So long Glenn, Fierce Lady! MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

CL–blushing now! glenn an hour ago

And Murph, too! glenn an hour ago

CL – Yes, I meant complimenting the ICC prosecuting crimes against humanity, a Trump Crimes Commission could refer many of these criminals to the DoJ for prosecution. AdLib an hour ago

Ad….I think your read is on the mark. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

I keep missing everyone when they head out! AdLib an hour ago

Well…it is us three….CL it is FANTASTIC having you here so often. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

CL – Right, FBI agents revere the law, they wouldn’t violate laws or guidelines to turn on Trump. But once freed to take them down under a Biden Admin, I think they will be very happily busy. AdLib an hour ago

Murph – we tend to eat dinner 7-7:30 or later, and I told Greg – NOT ON FRIDAY. I have stood my ground. PPOV Vox or Die! choicelady an hour ago

Murph – I’ve seen how hard hit WI is now by COVID, hospitals filled up, high rates of infection and death. Hope you and all out there stay safe. AdLib an hour ago

Ad – I suspect a lot of the FBI will have evidence to contribute, don’t you? choicelady an hour ago

This is a little anecdote…….those who are watching my farm…..tell me that interest in our co-op is growing among their friends who scoffed at it as Obama Socialism……and that one of them when he heard I was in WI working for the campaign said: “Well it’s better than working for that here…..so Trumpian but maybe that will pass and there will be room for some new ideas.” MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

CL….Vox or Starve! MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

CL – Agreed! They have been witnesses to many incidents of Obstruction of Justice and Criminal Abuse of Power. Trump’s whole cabinet are thieving criminals. AdLib an hour ago

Murph – that’s pretty darned cool. choicelady an hour ago

Ad…..Wi is erecting tent hospitals again……we are being super careful here. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph – that was HE agrees to earlier dinner or HE starves. Man CAN live on peanut butter, but hey… choicelady an hour ago

CL – That is so cool, Vox or Die indeed! This is my weekly recharge of sanity. AdLib an hour ago

It has been funny how the co-op has been on the verge of death several times and it is those who thought were so opposed to the idea in principal who stepped up to support it. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph – Thanks to the RW State Supreme Court and Legislature, WI is suffering worse than it had to. AdLib an hour ago

Murph – people do tend to see what works. They aren’t going to undermine a good thing. choicelady an hour ago

CL – Yep, Friday is not Peanut Butter Night for me either. AdLib an hour ago

Ad – i think people are generally fed up with hard stands that actually do harm. Maybe it SOUNDS good to “challenge voter fraud” until it’s YOUR vote on the line. Bit by bit… choicelady 44 minutes ago

Murph – We can only hope that as the Biden Admin helps make the COVID pandemic better and the economy, those most hostile against Dems may pull back a little. I don’t expect them to become Dems but less hateful would be progress. AdLib 44 minutes ago

Hey….did you see that PA GOP are dropping their call for an Election Integrity Commission to be empowered now to begin ongoing investigation of the election (i.e intimidation)……too much sunlight shone on it. National outcry. State legislature in Wi was making the same noise and that has stopped too. MurphTheSurf3 44 minutes ago

MURPH – that’s GREAT news. I had NOT heard that! choicelady 43 minutes ago

One of the clarity producing experiences here is the spike in farm failures and bankruptcies. MurphTheSurf3 43 minutes ago

Murph – yup. Farmers took it in the neck from Trump. choicelady 43 minutes ago

Malcolm Kenyatta was the face of resistance in PA. and is a promising future national leader. MurphTheSurf3 42 minutes ago

CL – The thing is, until we can get rid of Trump, it doesn’t matter what the majority thinks, they lack representation and power. So after that, yes, I think people are so weary of the intensity oof hatred and fear, they will gladly welcome a calmer, more sensible nation. AdLib 42 minutes ago

Murph – wow. And with that name! Times are a-changing for the better! choicelady 41 minutes ago

I seriously do think Trump is toast. Rebuilding America is not going to be easy, but it IS the majoritarian wish. choicelady 41 minutes ago

Murph – Yep, saw that and very pleased. Maddow put a spotlight on that Election Integrity Commission in PA and outrage had to be enormous. I was livid. Fascism in broad daylight (sorry for the repetition of “fasscism” but that’s what’s pouring out of Repubs now). AdLib 40 minutes ago

One of the folks I am working with here was verbally assaulted last week by someone in a store because she was wearing her Biden-Harris button….she is a pretty quiet person and small……she says she was frightened but that passed as virtually everyone near her came to her assistance and the store manager ejected the bully. MurphTheSurf3 40 minutes ago

How wonderful! I’m glad she had their support because it is creepy being attacked by these goons. choicelady 39 minutes ago

And as Maddow said, if it was established in PA, other Repub legislatures were readying to adopt it in their states. That one Dem legislator really fought back i the hearing, did you see the video? AdLib 39 minutes ago

Murph – Yes, Kenyatta! AdLib 38 minutes ago

Well, friends, I am a bit wired right now…I feel like its 2008 again in the midst of so many fellow travelers but I must remember that the spirit may be willing but this body needs sleep. So I am off to my bed. Staying with very nice people. MurphTheSurf3 38 minutes ago

Ad – NO I did not see the video. We are seeing Dems stand up over and over. Not in GOP fascist stormtrooper ways but in powerful ones. choicelady 38 minutes ago

Ad….I saw the video…..bullies have to be confronted. MurphTheSurf3 38 minutes ago

Get your well earned rest, Murph! Keep up the good work and stay safe! AdLib 38 minutes ago

Murph – I bet you are. The body DOES need rest. Please give my regards to Morticia and keep most of them for yourself. You’re doing great work. choicelady 38 minutes ago

Good night, Murph! choicelady 37 minutes ago

Ad…..so many of these tactics have their origins in national planning groups who plant them in the states……killing them one state at a time is required. MurphTheSurf3 37 minutes ago

Murph – we’re fighting the Hydra. choicelady 37 minutes ago

Thanks CL and Ad. Take care. So Long from Cheeseland. MurphTheSurf3 37 minutes ago

CL – The PA Repubs knew they were trying to commit a crime and were taken aback by Kenyatta’s fierce pushback. AdLib 36 minutes ago

Mruph [ enjoy the cheese while you’re there! choicelady 36 minutes ago

CL – But don’t forget, the hydra was killed. AdLib 36 minutes ago

Ad – that’s golden. I’m so sick of bullies. All my growing up in a RW town, that was what I saw, and it got worse and worse. My mother couldn’t stand up to it. I never backed down. choicelady 35 minutes ago

CL – That’s why you’re my hero, CL! AdLib 35 minutes ago

Ad – that IS my hope! Hydra Dies, Film at 11:00! choicelady 35 minutes ago

The GOP should be crushed and a minority party for a long time after this. AdLib 34 minutes ago

My Dad did the same but was very soft spoken, never got mad. He taught me that strategy. It works. choicelady 34 minutes ago

CL – It’s a brilliant strategy. Very challenging for me. AdLib 34 minutes ago

I want the GOP I knew from many years ago if I have to have an opposition. Not sure who will lead it to decency, but once upon a time they WERE decent. choicelady 34 minutes ago

I expect the GOP will continue to be Trumpian eve after Trump is imprisoned. So what happens to all the Never Trump Repubs? AdLib 33 minutes ago

But the nutjobs own the GOP now and even losing in 3 weeks won’t make them let go. AdLib 32 minutes ago

I’m hoping the Never Trumpers will take over. I know they are never going to 100% agree with us, so what? I have been VERY impressed with the support they have given to issues and ideas we do support – BLM for one. They aren’t going to let this happen again. choicelady 32 minutes ago

I would like the Lincoln folks to stay wiith the Dems. They won’t have a home in the GOP after the election. AdLib 31 minutes ago

I had a major hard on against Bill Kristol because he pushed Palin. He’s done a mea culpa on that, and I read what he SAYS not just his opposition to Trump. He is a changed man. choicelady 30 minutes ago

I don’t see how they can take over. The GOP has been devolving into the hateful, racist, extremist mess it is now, for decades. Don’t see how it goes back from that. AdLib 30 minutes ago

Whether they stay w Dems or push major reforms in the GOP, they will help. choicelady 30 minutes ago

They have a LOT of pull and might spend the next decade working to support HUMAN BEINGS in the GOP. That alone would be terrific. choicelady 29 minutes ago

Yes, I think Trump annd Trumpism has Kristol and the Lincoln Folks scared straight. But they are the minority, the majority of Reubs are extremists and racists. They have no home to return to. AdLib 29 minutes ago

Ad – we had a wimply Dem party for years, and that changed enough to elect Obama. It won’t be easy, but these guys are just the ones to do it. choicelady 28 minutes ago

You know what scares the shit out of me? They will become targets for the extremists, and I don’t mean on paper. choicelady 28 minutes ago

I can’t imagine the post-Trump GOP becoming introspective. They are all about hatred, conspiracy theories and fear. Not objective thinking. The majority of Repubs will not learn but will be furious at having had the election “stolen” by Dems. They will become more extreme, not less. AdLib 27 minutes ago

Wimpy to strong is a natural evolution. Extremist to reasonable isn’t as much. AdLib 27 minutes ago

Yes, I thiink the post-Trump GP, still being led by Trump (even from prison, like with other mobs) will be all about vindictiveness and taking back power at any cost. AdLib 25 minutes ago

I’m not expecting the Trump to become better but for the Lincoln Project etc. to start winning elections and building a new face and voice for the GOP. It will take at least a decade. choicelady 25 minutes ago

In some races, decent Repubs could win but broadly, across the South especially, it will all be about being the most extreme and vicious. AdLib 24 minutes ago

We are having a serious discussion w the guys in the back about arming our selves. They are either going to HAVE to start locking the gate at night or something if we don’t. I do NOT wish to go that route, but we have major vandalism here, just 2 blocks away, from the RW during the BLM protests. I’m already a target. I could not tolerate harm coming to the guys in the back. We are all in flux about it. They were pretty non political when they got here. NOT NOW! But I want them and us safe, and we aren’t sure of how. choicelady 22 minutes ago

Remember, all these Repubs in Congress have followed Trump oout of fear they would be primaried by someoe to their right who echoed Trump better. I don’t see how that changes after this year. They will be like a rabid dog after losing. More racist, more hateful. Otherwise, who would vote for them inn a Repub primary? AdLib 22 minutes ago

I’m thinking the minute we have MORE Kings kicked out, the more the party will HAVE to change. Not everywhere. “Combined and uneven development” is an historical fact. KY will be the last to go, and Ohio might be the first. But I think the lack of support for the GOP in elections is itself going to make change. choicelady 21 minutes ago

Yes, start with security to lockout the RW nutjobs. The fence should be locked every night for protection. But still, something has to be done big picture by the city or police to put a stop to this. AdLib 20 minutes ago

But there is no Repub base left other than hateful extremists. How do they win primaries when the majority won’t elect them and certainly, Dems won’t be voting for Repubs after Trump. AdLib 19 minutes ago

Well, our cops aren’t a ton better than anywhere else, but… not utterly awful. choicelady 19 minutes ago

GOP is just going to keep losing and losing until they wise up. choicelady 18 minutes ago

Police reform is critical then. But I can’t imagine that can happen quickly enough if the Biden Admin pushes it forward. AdLib 18 minutes ago

Did you see we finally, in CA, passed some significant reforms? choicelady 17 minutes ago

I might suggest that the GOP is terminally ill. I don’t know that it ever returns to a healthy state. Only resort for decet Repubs is to join Dems or start a new party which will be smaller than the GOP. Maybe eventually replace it but over a long time. AdLib 16 minutes ago

Yes, that was great news! AdLib 16 minutes ago

Banned chokeholds, improved scrutiny and accountability. The article I read wasn’t that detailed so I have to read up, but we DID make some progress. choicelady 16 minutes ago

That gives me some hope. As does the support for BLM. AdLib 16 minutes ago

And police reform. AdLib 16 minutes ago

In the middle of the GOP reform/collapse debate we CANNOT allow the Libertarians to get a foothold. That’s why MacLean’s book is CRITICALLY important. choicelady 15 minutes ago

I dropped my ballot off yesterday at a drop box. Have you returned your ballot? AdLib 15 minutes ago

Libertarians could try too wrestle coontrol of the GOP but still, a minority compared to Dems. AdLib 15 minutes ago

My ballot goes tomorrow. We use a PO box so just got it. Greg’s is done and dropped, but I was out this afternoon so it will be filled out and dropped tomorrow. choicelady 14 minutes ago

Ad – yes, they’re the minority, sort of, but they are worse than the Trumpers because they come off as reasonable. We must be on guard against that. choicelady 14 minutes ago

The GOP has massive problems after Trump. Havig lost all but the dregs, only 40% and shrinking of voters. And with a Dem unitary government, voting rights passed, Census redistricting more balanced, aggressive voting rights enforcement by the Biden AG, it could be structurally hard for Repubs to win for many years. AdLib 12 minutes ago

Did I tell you about my breakfast at the Mayflower one table over from Bill Kristol in Jan. 2009? I detested him. I now really like him. REALLY like him. So we shall see. choicelady 12 minutes ago

Fantastic! It was a good feelinng to finally, after 4 years, be able to exercise power to end Trump. AdLib 11 minutes ago

I’m ALL for those reforms that make it hard for the GOP to get a toehold. choicelady 11 minutes ago

CL – If Rand Paul is their leader, the Libertarians will already be in big trouble. AdLib 10 minutes ago

I think everyone is feeling they have the power to rid us of this insane man. choicelady 10 minutes ago

Paul is NOTHING in the Libertarian movement. It’s the people we don’t yet know who are dangerous. choicelady 9 minutes ago

Yes, I remember your telling me about that. I was surprised but didn’t change my opinion of him until he and other Repubs have clearly been changed by Trumpism. AdLib 9 minutes ago

Yep, thught the reforms preventing Repubs from gaining power are actually reforms to provide a more representative government. So they lose their ability to game elections despite the majority. And we need to get rid of gerrymandering. AdLib 8 minutes ago

I didn’t either, but I read his tweets closely because I want the CONTENT, not just the fact of opposition to Trump. George Conway is different – a true RWer with more class and respect for democracy. That’s not good enough for me. But Kirstol is different from him and has genuinely respected us on many issues, and now agrees on many issues. choicelady 8 minutes ago

Ad – totally agree. choicelady 7 minutes ago

Paul is nothing in The Senate and even in his neighborhood. AdLib 7 minutes ago

LOL – when even your neighbor beats the shit out of you, you probably have more problems than we know!!! choicelady 7 minutes ago

Conway is not someone to blindly trust, he is pushing Amy Coney Barrett as he pushed Kavanaugh. AdLib 6 minutes ago

Rand Paul’s neighbor would clean up on GoFundMe to pay legal fees for punching him again. AdLib 5 minutes ago

On another note – are you still thinking about the water pipeline? I once had to look at the pipelines of El Paso Natural Gas, and if THEY can get over the Rockies, a water pipeline is NOTHING. Water lines don’t blow up for one thing… choicelady 5 minutes ago

Yes!!! Meant to talk to you about it but had to get out a proposal for a film. Can we chat next week about the water pipeline? Losing out on helping LA now being hit by Delta hurricaine right now…and piping the water up your way to the hot spots. AdLib 4 minutes ago

Exactly. Let’s talk. This is a very exciting use of fairly low and clean tech, in my opinion. I think you’re on to something major here. choicelady 3 minutes ago

Saw articles about coming Climate Change issues of water availability in CA and other areas. AdLib 2 minutes ago

I am going to hit the hay – I don’t sleep often enough that last night was 4 hours, and I’m fading. GREAT evening, and I’m glad I moved Friday dinners to 6 so I can be here. choicelady 2 minutes ago

Thanks! I think we have a potent project for a Biden Admin to fund as infrastructure. The timing, prepping something for next year, is good now. AdLib a minute ago

Absolutely!!! We will talk. Best of weeks to you. Give me a holler when you want to talk. I’m not exactly tied up these days! choicelady a minute ago

I see you up on Twitter late like me. Yes, get some sleep! We need a rested and healthy CL to fix this nation! AdLib a few seconds ago

Okay, will call you next week! Have a great weekend! Best to Hubby! AdLib a few seconds ago

For sure. And for me, well, I ain’t gettin’ any younger! Talk to you soon. Love to all in your household! choicelady a few seconds ago

Good night! choicelady in a few seconds

Thanks!!! Night! AdLib in a few seconds

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