Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events, begins tonight at 7:00pm PDT. Hope to see you then! AdLib 3 hours ago

Hi Ad pinkpantheroz an hour ago

hi CL pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Miracles abound! I’m on time! choicelady an hour ago

He Ad and PPO! choicelady an hour ago

I shall inform the media immediately! pinkpantheroz an hour ago

PPO – FRONT PAGE!!! choicelady an hour ago

Well, under the fold pinkpantheroz an hour ago

That was HI Ad and PPO. I can’t type anymore. choicelady an hour ago

PPO – I guess that’s all it deserves. choicelady an hour ago

OK we know you’re here! pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Hey CL! AdLib an hour ago

Hi PPO! AdLib an hour ago

Hey AdLib! choicelady an hour ago

Anyone have observations on the “Atlantic” story? I’m steaming! choicelady an hour ago

Hw are we al doig now that Trump is exposed as a sociopath and traitor? AdLib an hour ago

Middling good news this week. Fergie’s cancer has not returned to where it was, and her blood tests are OK, so waiting for CAT scan results to see why shee’s so tired and losing weight. pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Ad – I thought he’d ALWAYS been exposed. Now we see he’s a raving hypocrite and chickenhawk. Not sure this is going well for him, Mmmmm? choicelady an hour ago

Oh, PPO – that’s kind of “good news, not so hot news” isn’t it? choicelady an hour ago

glenn!!! choicelady an hour ago

PPO – At first it sounded like good news but the exhaustion and weight loss is concerning. AdLib an hour ago

PPO – I hope you can find a reason and FIX IT. I’m so sorry you’re goig through this. choicelady an hour ago

Hi Ad. The Atlantic story is just a condensation of things that were done and said over the last 5-6 years. there were comments then, but not like now, where the entire story is coalesced into one article. pinkpantheroz an hour ago

CL–Look at you, all on time and everything! Hi PPO and Ad! glenn an hour ago

Hi glenn! pinkpantheroz an hour ago

I KNOW, glenn – PPO is giving me front page *below the fold coverage with the media! SHE’S ON TIME!!! choicelady an hour ago

PPO–Keeping up the positive thoughts for Fergie. Please give her my best. glenn an hour ago

PPO – tell her we ALL send our best. choicelady an hour ago

Thanks all for your good wishes and support. We’ll know Monday, I think. Hope it is something we can attack. pinkpantheroz an hour ago

I am pleased that the approach by Dems and Biden is to use this disgusting reveal as part of the big picture of Trump’s disrespect for the military. And the good timing is, it stopped him trashing Stars and Stripes. And Fox News confirming parts of the story? What is going on? Not sure but this is now inescapable for Trump and his crowd of liars. AdLib an hour ago

Hey glenn! AdLib an hour ago

PPO – good. We will keep positive energies flowing. choicelady an hour ago

CL–Woo-hoo! Below the fold. Is that like the centerfold?

glenn an hour ago

I do love that WhatsHisName is denying all the crap, followed right away by videos and sound and witnesses calling him out for lying. pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Ad – I read today he was still killing Stars and Stripes. I got into Twitmo for suggesting people send four white feathers to Trump, so I haven’t been able to keep up. I’m free at about 9:15 tonight. choicelady an hour ago

glenn – no, that’s a journalistic way of saying the story isn’t that interesting. choicelady an hour ago

Ad–Well, first foxsocalled news did confirm part of the story; then they said it was “debunked”. So, their viewers can decide for themselves what to believe! glenn an hour ago

There was a tweet, Ad, that has him ordering ‘Stars & stripes’ to cease publication, denying them finance, What a baby shit. pinkpantheroz an hour ago

PPO – he’s scum. choicelady an hour ago

PPO – Yes and the way it’s being used to present the big picture of Trump as a traitor is perfect. So often I wish Dems would go at an issue more wisely but they are handling this perfectly. No way Trump can fully escape this perception of him. As a pundit said today, the race isn’t really about changing minds anyore, it’s only about GOTV for Biden. AdLib an hour ago

glenn, ‘below the fold’ is for news that doesn’t quite warrant the visible Top of the Front Page on the stand, where ‘TITANIC SINKS’ would show pinkpantheroz an hour ago

All – there are too many confirmations outside the Atlantic story of his disrespect for the military for me NOT to believe it. choicelady an hour ago

PPO – I’m fine not being equal to the sinking of the Titanic. If you see my point. choicelady an hour ago

pinkpantheroz an hour ago

MURPH!!! choicelady an hour ago

Hey Murph! AdLib an hour ago

CL – What? Yoou got suspended for that? AdLib an hour ago

PPO–Even Melania and Sarah are denying the Atlantic story, so we know it’s not true, right? I do wish that the people who were at the conversation(s) would come out in the open and make statements confirming what was said. IMO, they are cowards for not coming forward. At this point, if they’re really convinced that the RTLB is wrong for the country, then they should speak out. glenn an hour ago

For targeting the asshole by suggesting people send him four white feathers. Yup. choicelady an hour ago

CL, these were reported before, but not with as much emphasis (MSM, you know). But all together in one article, KaBoom! The Military has finally noticed and are responding, about time! pinkpantheroz an hour ago

CL – I heard Trump was shamed into reversing the shutdown of Stars and STripes. Has that changed? Suicidal for Trump now. AdLib an hour ago

My husband was a journalist for several years. This is not uncommon for people to want to hide their identity in fear of retaliation. I get that. choicelady an hour ago

glenn – Did the nutcases at Fox say it was debunked while the newspeople say it’s confirmed? AdLib an hour ago

PPO–Yeah, I do understand what you meant by “below the fold”. I was trying to be funny…apparently it didn’t work. glenn an hour ago

Ad – I simply don’t know. Off Twitter until 9 tonight, I’m SOOOOO out of the loop. I was able to get in for a time to read and DM. Now I can’t do ANYTHING. choicelady an hour ago

AD, hope so. Censorship on that scale is totally unacceptible pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Hello all….I just got caught up. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

glenn – I’m flattered you might have entertained the idea I’d be Centerfold material . Maybe in the AARP mag, but nowhere else. choicelady an hour ago

PPO – But this afternoon Trump tweeted he would protect S&S. Of course he’s a liar but which BS came last? AdLib an hour ago

Ad – not sure. choicelady an hour ago

CL–I believed it right away. It’s just the sort of thing(s) he’s been saying about McCain for years; so why wouldn’t he say it about other service members? glenn an hour ago

Hey – I have to salute the Prez for making Labor Day seem even more Labored. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph! pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Ad–I read that the RTLB has reversed the shutdown of the Stars and Stripes. glenn an hour ago

There is an earlier story in “A Very Stable Genius” of his first full briefing with the Joint Chiefs. He called them pussies and disrespected EVERYONE in the room. Names were named of who was there. This is consistent. choicelady an hour ago

Hey Murph! glenn an hour ago

CL – Atlantic, WAPO, NYT and Fox News? So many different sources and the real tell is absolute silence from John Kelly and Mattis. That is damning. AdLib an hour ago

Murph – you make an excellent point. choicelady an hour ago

For onward transmission! pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Ad – hubby the former reporter says when the reporter writes “a source close to” and names a name, it’s the source. choicelady an hour ago

Murph – To Trump, Labor Day was today, working so hard to lie about the Atlanntic article. AdLib an hour ago

I don’t blame ANYONE for not wishing to be sued, berated, poisoned, or defenestrated by Trump choicelady an hour ago

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pinkpantheroz an hour ago

I was refreshing the memory of a Trumper who is part of my co-op. He brought up how Trump “had put on such a great send off for McCain” and that the family was so ungrateful. I walked through how he had ordered the flags lowered for just two days, a slap, and had ok’ed the use of Air Force Two for the casket and family and…..well that was it…..all the rest was up to the leadership of the House/Senate, the District, the National Cathdedral and the DOD. He was baffled. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Ad–Pretty much. I believe the confirmation was done in a series of tweets from one female reporter–don’t remember her name and the report of it being debunked was done on air, after the tweets, and probably after the RTLB denied it In Fox world, that’s “debunking” it. glenn an hour ago

glenn – I heard the same thing, that Dumpster had to reverse course on shutting down S&S. AdLib an hour ago

Murph – Trump did EVERYTHING HE COULD to disrespect McCain. How could anyone think otherwise? choicelady an hour ago

Murph–He is laboring under the delusion that he can continue to lie and get away with it. glenn an hour ago

Ad – if S&S survives, I’m good with that. It’s been around since the Civil War. choicelady an hour ago

CL – And Trump badmouthed Mattis and Kelly for coming out publicly against him. Too many loose ends that Trump’s lies can’t cover up. AdLib an hour ago

It will be delicious if McCain reaches up from the grave and grabs Trump around his flabby neck and squeezes until his eyes pop. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

All – a friend and I were discussing that the acts of aggression from Putin on land, sea, and air would indicate Putin is NOT HAPPY with Trump anymore. He may now realize he backed a really stupid and degenerate man who CANNOT destroy America as Putin so dearly wants. choicelady an hour ago

Murph– to be fair, it doesn’t take much to baffle a RTLB supporter. glenn an hour ago

CL – Yes, I think Kelly or Mattis or both were sources for these stories. I wish at least Mattis would come out to hammer the stake through The Orange Vampire’s heart. AdLib an hour ago

MURPH! I LOVE THAT IMAGE! choicelady an hour ago

Ad – I do, too, but it ain’t happening. choicelady an hour ago

Thank you CL. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph–c’mon, tell us how you really feel! LOL! glenn an hour ago

Have we all seen the VoteVet PSA featuring the loved ones of the fallen….so stirring, so sad, so powerful. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

glenn – yes, Murph is so shy and retiring. choicelady an hour ago

CL – Same here, I don’t blame any of the sources for not wanting to get immolated by the Trump machine. But once he loses the election, I thiink the flood gates will open wide. Hpe it happens just before too. AdLib an hour ago

Murph – yes. I really respect that video. choicelady an hour ago

glenn…..I guess I am not cloaking my emotions very well…CL gets it. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Ad-agreed. Kelly or Mattis need to speak out. glenn an hour ago

I want everyone Trump has shafted to speak out. Whether it’s before the election is dubious, but I WANT that. choicelady an hour ago

Murph – No wonder Trump loves the uneducated voters. AdLib an hour ago

Murph–I’ve seen several ads from vets that are just brutal on the RTLB. I hope it continues. glenn an hour ago

Here in Missouri the governor has been forced to admit that there are more than 9000 confirmed COVID cases on the college campuses and those kids are coming home for Labor Day. My town is planning on holding a big event….a carnival…..Madness. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

All – you remember the icky awful photos of women inviting Trump to grab them? They are women who would repel him. What IS it with the uneducated that they think he’s their friend? choicelady an hour ago

glenn – What we would expect, surprising Fox left those tweets up. But the toothpaste doesn’t go back in the tube. AdLib an hour ago

CL–Yeah, we all love the “shy and retiring” Murph! glenn an hour ago

MURPH! Please stay home this weekend! choicelady an hour ago

Guys, I am shy and retiring. I just hide it well. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

I want McConnell’s ass on a plate, mock turtle soup! the damage he has done is almost immeasurable pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Murph – LOL!!! choicelady an hour ago

PPO…Mock Turtle soup! love it. Mock the Turtle! Then make a nice broth out of him. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

glenn – All Trump knows is lying, bullying and extortion. So in this case, all he can do is lie and it won’t do the job. AdLib an hour ago

PPO – I think we might beat Miss Lindsey but apparently not the Turtle. I don’t mind if he’s rendered impotent, however. choicelady an hour ago

Murph, sure you are….. as shy and retiring as a Panzer Division! pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Murph–This is where I get so frustrated with the MSM. They will pursue the Pelosi story to a ridiculousness, without even once mentioning why it is necessary for Pelosi to even have to wear a mask in the first place! They have the story bassacwards! glenn an hour ago

My farm is closed, even more so than usual, for the long weekend. No one is welcome who is not in my trust circle, which is very small. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

PPO…Panzer Division…now that is an image worth savoring. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

CL….you think McConnell is out of reach? MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph–Not to worry; I’ve always enjoyed your “shy and retiring” side. glenn an hour ago

CL – I’m not sure what Putin is up to because it’s undermining Trump. Is he trying to show what a threat Russia will be if Trump isn’t president? Or iis he trying to goad Trump into doing big favors before he’s voted out? AdLib an hour ago

Murph – I’m seriously – SERIOUSLY – glad to hear that. choicelady an hour ago

Glenn…..a slight bow as a proper gentleman would do. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Ad – Putin’s actions don’t bode well for Trump no matter what. choicelady an hour ago

PPO–Now you really understand Murph! LOL! glenn an hour ago

Ad – I think Putin is done with Trump. That might be good for our election. choicelady an hour ago

AD LIB….interesting take on Putin’s “in your face” to Trump MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

McConnell may unfortunately survive through the gerrymander, but if the Dems regain the Senate, he is defuzed and open to indictment] pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Murph – Unfortunately your Gov was hiding what a nutjob he actually is. What was the other big story about him this week? Something about voting? AdLib an hour ago

Murph–Good for you! Keep yourself away from the masses! glenn an hour ago

I have friends in SC and they say that Graham is looking unusually concerned, nervous, fidgety. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

PPO – I want McC and his nasty wife indicted, convicted, and imprisoned. choicelady an hour ago

Murph – we can’t know if Miss Lindsey is upset over the election or Trump’s blackmail. choicelady an hour ago

CL, and RICO’d pinkpantheroz an hour ago

PPO – Yes. RICO. Absolutely. choicelady an hour ago

CL – But why would Putin hurt Trump when Biden will be so much worse for him? AdLib an hour ago

Parson is pushing letting the mail in voting option expire in December. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Ad – Putin needs a genuinely strong partner. Trump is a total failure. Putin is biding his time to get Biden out and try again in 2024. choicelady an hour ago

Ad….perhaps Putin thinks Trump is going to lose so he wants to kick him in the ass and the balls to be sure he gets his licks in before the man is defunct. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

PPO – Fortunately, Senate elections aren’t affected by gerrymandering since they include all voters in every district. McConnell may well survive but if there is a Blue Tsunami, his losing and or Lady G too, would be amazing. But Dems will win The Senate. AdLib an hour ago

Where is the turtle? Where are all the republicans who should be out telling people that it’s illegal and fraudulent to vote twice? Why aren’t they assuring the American people that the vote will be safe? Why aren’t governors or state Secretaries of State hiring extra people to monitor voting? To check absentee ballots against the voters rolls? Why are they allowing the RTLB to sow chaos? Are these rhetorical questions? glenn an hour ago

Putin is in for life. He will be looking at the long game. Destabilize the US economy or whatever and get someone like Meadows to run. Putin doesn’t get that the entire GOP are incompetents. choicelady an hour ago

Glenn…..I think we know why all of that is not being done…keeping their heads low hoping to avoid the flack. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph – There was something else. Can’t remember now. AdLib an hour ago

glenn – states ARE saying it’s illegal to vote twice. The GOP want them to to “prove” that the mail in system is corrupt. They are throwing their own people under the bus to do that. choicelady an hour ago

Thanks for the explanation, Ad. pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Murph–poor little Lindsey! He needs to use some of his campaign funds for some new fainting couches and pearlsd! glenn an hour ago

Lindsey can borrow the pearls from Miss Rudi pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Ad….the expiration means that notaries will have to make all requests for an absentee ballot official….big hit on the old, the poor, the minorities. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

glenn – I suspect he’s using campaign funds for rent boys. And I do mean BOYS which is probably what Trump has on him. choicelady an hour ago

Glenn….fainting couches….maybe his “fiance” will be there to catch him. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph–IMO, though, Dem governors/SOS’s should be coming up with pro-active measures to STOP these people if they do decide to “test the system”. One more question, if they do vote twice, are their votes counted once? glenn an hour ago

Murph – the Supremes have ruled back in 2015 that the FEDS set the registration standards. Robert was on that, and if anyone screws with it, I think SCOTUS will hand them their hats. choicelady an hour ago

CL – I donn’t know, if Biden wins, Putin should expect a big slap at Russia for invading our elections, walls being constructed agaist him freely doing it again and passage of a new Voting Rights Act that hobbles Repub suppression of voters. Hope we can also bring in DC and PR as states and get 4 more Dem Senators and many more Reps! AdLib an hour ago

Stephanie Winston Wolkoff…..love that she is taking down the First Lady and the entire Inaugural Swamp. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph…Dems are working it I think…and no the votes do not count for two. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Ad – Putin knows that but is as delusional as Trump. He is now totally focused on E. Europe and thinks he can win there, bide his time, then destroy the USA and go for the gold. Donnie is no earthly use. choicelady an hour ago

Ad–Yes, some states are saying that it’s illegal. But where are the turtle, Graham, Rand Paul, and all the other republicans in Washington? Why aren’t they speaking out? For that matter, why isn’t the press asking any of them about it? glenn an hour ago

CL….say more about the registration standards…..does that include my absentee/rotary example? MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

glenn – the media are STUPID. choicelady an hour ago

PPO–That’s right; I do think Rudi has a set of pearls! glenn an hour ago

Murph – I don’t know, Putin is strategic, something deeper is going on other than just trying to diss Trump. A waste of too many resources and political capital for next to no return. Most mericans aren’t followinng this at all. AdLib an hour ago

Murph – what SCOTUS ruled is that there is ONE standard – sign an affidavit when you register that your are speaking truthfully, and that s IT. choicelady an hour ago

Murph–Well, of course it’s a big hit for the old, poor and minorities. Isn’t that the point? glenn 44 minutes ago

CL…ahhhhh….did not know that. MurphTheSurf3 44 minutes ago

Ad – I don’t think Americans are following it, but I think Putin screwed up w Trump and is done with him. He knows Trump can’t win. choicelady 44 minutes ago

cl, the RW media (meaning almost all) aren’t stupid, they’re duplicitous and obtuse by order of the barons who run the country. pinkpantheroz 44 minutes ago

glenn – the ONLY things states can demand, per SCOTUS 2015, is that they register under penalty of perjury. Nothing else can be demanded. That actually is easy. choicelady 43 minutes ago

Watch for Putin to invade Ukraine and Georgia within the next 6 weeks pinkpantheroz 43 minutes ago

CL–Stupid, and they never seem to learn. glenn 43 minutes ago

PPO – BAM! That is what I think he will do. choicelady 43 minutes ago

glenn – Yes, where are all the Repubs in Congress reactinng to Trump pushing voter fraud and dissing our troops? Have we ever seen such cowardice by an entire party just before a election? AdLib 43 minutes ago

A fellow academic is a Kremlinologist (yeah, he calls himself that, part of the club)….and he says that what Putinis doing is laying his mark on Trump’s head….branding it so that everytime he looks in the mirror he is aware that he was betrayed by the one he had sworn fealty to. MurphTheSurf3 42 minutes ago

Ad – I am heartened by the numbers of GOP now for Biden. Are all of them our friends? No. Some yes, but that’s not the issue now, and the numbers of openly anti Trump GOP grows daily. choicelady 42 minutes ago

Murph – I can believe that about Putin and Donnie. choicelady 41 minutes ago

Murph – is that “the mark of the beast” on Trump’s head? LOL! choicelady 41 minutes ago

CL….the Mark of the Beast…like that. MurphTheSurf3 40 minutes ago

Murph – The problem with that is that it would take a Kremlinologist to get that, no one in history will remember that as a big issue nailed to Trump. AdLib 39 minutes ago

I am doing some work in Southern Illinois which is very much like Mo. Trump country but I am being told that the Trump flags, signs, MAGA Hats and Shirts are rare sites. Hmmmm. MurphTheSurf3 39 minutes ago

Ad…I suspect you are correct. Putin may be doing it for the lesson it teaches those he is seeking to bring into his orbit to stay on top of their game. MurphTheSurf3 38 minutes ago

Ad – it’s not actually necessary to have all the public get the Putin-Trump dynamic but only to keep emphasizing how utterly incompetent Trump is and that he prefers Putin to our military. Simple, direct, to the point. Nuance can come later. choicelady 38 minutes ago

CL–I’m not asking anything be demanded of the voters. I’m asking that the governments of the states do everything they can to make sure that the system works! As far as I know, states don’t have to ask permission to hire people to check ballots. IMO, the reason the RTLB is trying to “test the system” is that he wants to drag out the election results as long as possible, so he and Barr can continue to gaslight the American people. And with their SCOTUS appointees, they think they’ll steal another election if it goes to SCOTUS. All I’m saying is that states should do everything they can to protect the system by making sure absentee ballots are registered and counted in “real time”. glenn 38 minutes ago

I mentioned Stephanie Wolkoff earlier….anyone else picked up on this story? MurphTheSurf3 37 minutes ago

CL – Biden is strongly settling in as the unifer across parties and within the Dem Party. Trump is locked out now from poaching voters from Biden, all he can do is try to squeeze out a little more from his base. I think we will see a Blue Tsunami, pollsters are likely underestimating the huge flood of voters who are going to come out to flush Trump away. AdLib 37 minutes ago

Murph – spent a summer in Hight School at So. Illinois University’s theater camp. I know what you mean. choicelady 37 minutes ago

CL….Southern Illinois is ALL About DRAMA. MurphTheSurf3 36 minutes ago

Ad – 100% agree on vote! choicelady 36 minutes ago

Murph – yes it is. ALL about that! choicelady 36 minutes ago

Ad–exactly! Silence of the cowardly traitors! And damnation on the MSM for letting them be silent! glenn 36 minutes ago

CL and Murph – Maybe but I think Putin is up to something else. It only hurts Putin more to have a biigger Biden victory. AdLib 36 minutes ago

Murph – I grew up outside of Chicago. We “Yankees” were NOT a good fit with the townspeople. choicelady 36 minutes ago

CL….I find myself admiring Biden more and more…..he had a bit of goofiness about him with Obama….but now he is wearing compassionate gravitas like a toga MurphTheSurf3 35 minutes ago

Murph–You mean Melanie’s ex-BFF? I’d like to hear her tapes! glenn 35 minutes ago

Glenn…that is her. MurphTheSurf3 35 minutes ago

Ad – I don’t think Putin has much choice. Jettison the orange windbag and cut your losses or keep backing him and RIDE his defeat. I think Putin will cut and run, Biden or no. choicelady 35 minutes ago

S how is everyone here voting? Ballot by mail then mail back or drop box? Early votiing at a polling place? AdLib 35 minutes ago

Ad….your insights re. Biden are spot on……he is stepping up big time. MurphTheSurf3 34 minutes ago

Ad–I so hope you’re right! With the Atlantic story, we may have a tsunami of vets out for Biden, too! glenn 34 minutes ago

Ad – we in CA are all getting ballots by mail. I will DROP it. And I am encouraging my organization’s members to do the same and help others do it. choicelady 33 minutes ago

Voting…..I have worked at a polling place in the past and voted there. Not now. It is all via early voting absentee AND I am organizing others to do the same. MurphTheSurf3 33 minutes ago

So what do you think the debates will be like? Will Trump have a meltdown when moderators hold his feet to the truth (or won’t they do that?). Will the MSM iignore Trump’s lies and focus on a minor gaffe by Biden instead? Will Biden be cool and calm or lay into Trump? AdLib 32 minutes ago

all – never underestimate the Great October Surprise. I expect Barr to try to arrest Obama and maybe Hillary on treason over “spying” on the Trump campaign. choicelady 32 minutes ago

We have a new County Clerk here, GOP, but really solid. He has asked me to serve on a voter services organizing group….I am going to do that I think. MurphTheSurf3 32 minutes ago

CL – If Putin is putting ego over reason, works for me. AdLib 32 minutes ago

Ad – I’m fine if Biden is cool and calm because he can STILL lay into Trump with facts. Biden wants real time fact check, and that will upset Trump no end so he’ll blow it. choicelady 31 minutes ago

CL…Barr! How much more repugnant can a man be. MurphTheSurf3 31 minutes ago

MURPH – that is so cool! choicelady 31 minutes ago

Murph–I do think the more controlledl environment has been helping Biden a lot. That being said, I’ve always thought Joe was a good man. I so loved his retort to the RTLB mocking him for wearing a mask everywhere. Biden just laughed and said it was too ridiculous to even answer! glenn 31 minutes ago

CL…thanks….I am hoping it is real and not just a way to sideline me. MurphTheSurf3 30 minutes ago

Biden is very wise. He’s warm, kind, speaks RIGHT to the points, and he has cred in his family story and his legacy of good. choicelady 30 minutes ago

CL – Yep, same here, planning on using a drop box the day after I get my ballot. I don’t really need time to decide between Trump and Biiden. AdLib 30 minutes ago

Muprh – I hope you’re correct. choicelady 30 minutes ago

The debates…given that they provide no real test for the candidates as to how effective they will be in the Oval Office…..I never hold out much hope that they will be meaningful but Biden has had plenty of time to be ready and we know he is a worker…whereas Trump is not. MurphTheSurf3 29 minutes ago

CL – I wonder if Barr’s October Surprise of arrests of top Dems, as I agree had to be a main plan, is undermined by the Senate Report and the very likely outcome that Biden wins and Barr can and should be prosecuted for criminall behavior. AdLib 28 minutes ago

Ad–I’m going for early voting at a polling place. If it’s too crowded then, I’ll opt for voting on election day. Don’t know what it will be like this year, but my regular polling place is usually not very busy. Four years ago, when I voted early I waited in line for about an hour and a half; and I’m not so sure I want to do that this year. However, if I do wait to vote on election day, I’m bringing my soccer chair and lots of water in case I have to stay in line for a while. I will stay in line as long as I have to in order to cast my vote. glenn 27 minutes ago

Glenn…why not absentee vote? MurphTheSurf3 26 minutes ago

If anyone wants to see our analyses on ballot measures, see http://www.churchimpact.org/impact-blog Ad I’m sure you’ll be surprised we are YES on Prop. 22 for gig workers. But I really, really, really like it, and the companies intend to do this nationwide guaranteeing IN LAW rights for gig workers that are VERY good., better than most part time workers now get as emloyees.’ choicelady 26 minutes ago

Murph – I can’t see how the debates could hurt Biden or help Trump. The moderators will bring up all his failures. I think the debates can only hurt Trump. Even if the MSM tries a BS attack on Biden for a gaffe. AdLib 26 minutes ago

Ad….I think that Barr will be watching the polling and the insider info. If Biden looks like the winner he will do as you suggest…..bail out on Trump. MurphTheSurf3 25 minutes ago

Murph – I meant Putin, but I think you’re correct on Barr. And the whole cultin DC! choicelady 25 minutes ago

Ad, I am hoping that the media mods will be subtly but royally so pissed off with Trump that they will castrate him. MurphTheSurf3 24 minutes ago

Choice…I have book marked you link. MurphTheSurf3 24 minutes ago

Murph – they’d have to FIND his gonads to castrate him. (I probably shouldn’t say that – it might get back to Twitter and keep me in Twitmo.) choicelady 23 minutes ago

I’ve given up hiding who I am here. Y’all might as well use my stuff. choicelady 23 minutes ago

SORRY for the delay! Great news! pinkpantheroz 23 minutes ago

WHAT??? choicelady 22 minutes ago

glenn – Early voting is great too and shouldn’t be crowded. Going early soon is probably the best, when it starts up. Here in LA, they used these voting centers for the first time in 2018 and it was awful, hours waits when we never had waits before. SO I committed to vote by mail from now on though CA now provides it automatically. AdLib 22 minutes ago

Ad–Chris Wallace will be the first moderator, and lately, he has been holding the RTLB’s supporters feet to the fire. I really like the one moderator concept. Cuts through all the BS, and allows the moderator to control the debate better. There’s no doubt in my mind that the RTLB will never answer a question directly. So, hopefully, the one moderator setting will make him answer, or call him out for not answering the question. I think Biden will be very well prepared.All he has to do is to keep bringing up the COVID numbers; the RTLB’s dissing of the troops, unemployment, and the riots going on to rattle the RRLB. glenn 22 minutes ago

glenn – solid analysis. BAM! choicelady 22 minutes ago

PPO – I can’t WAIT TO HEAR. choicelady 21 minutes ago

Doctor phoned to say no cancer, slight COPD with bronchitis and emphysema – nothing lethal. Huge relief, now to get fergies nutrition and breathing improved. Relief!!!! pinkpantheroz 21 minutes ago

Murph–Because I want to show up in person to cast my ballot! glenn 21 minutes ago

CL….I had forgotten what your group is called….and how it is structured….relevancy in faith life…bravo. MurphTheSurf3 21 minutes ago


CL – I haven’t gotten deep into Prop 22 but I know employers who are haviing big problems with independent contractor hiring. The original law was well intended but it’s causing unintended consequences. AdLib 20 minutes ago

Over the Moon! Now she can reduce anxiety! pinkpantheroz 20 minutes ago

Glenn…good for you but be very careful…..double mask…..and rubber gloves….not kidding. MurphTheSurf3 20 minutes ago

CA Church IMPACT is the c-4 for the CA Council of Churches. I formally retired, but they asked me to do the analyses. Too vain not to. choicelady 20 minutes ago

Oh, PPO I am actually in tears with that wonderful news. I am SO HAPPY for you and Fergie! choicelady 20 minutes ago

CL–Thanks. glenn 19 minutes ago


WE ARE ALL SO HAPPY FOR YOU BOTH!!! MurphTheSurf3 19 minutes ago

PPO–That is wonderful news! Oh happy day! glenn 18 minutes ago

Ad – the unions WON this with Prop. 22. The companies CAVED and did a wonderful job of providing help without making people be employees. It respects the novelty of work AND give great benefits IN LAW that even the legislature could not do. choicelady 18 minutes ago

Murph – No president has been re-elected while being down this much in Sept. And the margin has been constant, it’s not moving around which is also unusual. I think it’s clear, people have made up their mind and that is why Trump is pushing all the buttoons he can to prevent voting…because he’s been told that there is no way for him to win without cheating and even then, probably not. But it’s his only hope. AdLib 18 minutes ago


Tears in my eyes…. Thank you all so very much for all your support. I has been very lonely otherwise. God Bless you all pinkpantheroz 17 minutes ago

Murph–I will. I also forgot to say I’m bringing my hand sanitizer. And, I may just change my mind and absentee vote. But right now, I’m planning to vote in person. glenn 17 minutes ago

Ad – what the Yam Man doesn’t see is that he has empowered people with creative solutions, strong will, and a desire never to become “Good Germans” to his fucking fascism. (Yes, the “churchlady” swears.) He has mobilized MILLIONS because of his vile deeds. choicelady 17 minutes ago

AD…..I hope that your normally astute analysis is laser accurate in this one. MurphTheSurf3 17 minutes ago

Oh, PPO – this is pure joy to read and must be pure joy to learn!!! BREATHE!!!! choicelady 16 minutes ago

PPO – I just wish I were closer. COVID or no COVID I’d hug you. Mask, gloves, sanitizer and all. choicelady 16 minutes ago

glenn – I think Wallace will do fine. He does ask the tough questions about Trump but sometimes falls into BS questions towards Dems as he did with Obama. But he won’t be a Trump lapdog. What we should keep in mind is if Biden’s marginn stays similar to what it is, he will gain momentum in the final weeks since people like votiing for a winner. And…that would make Trump a loser. He will go nuts, his biggest fear in the world, being seen for the loser he is. AdLib 16 minutes ago

Glenn…if you mask up (a throwaway surgical/medical mask) under one like I sent you, a chair that helps you keep social distance, a name tag that says the same, rubber gloves and sanitizer…… MurphTheSurf3 15 minutes ago

Ad–once again, from your keyboard to the voters’ ballots. It’s going to be interesting to see if the Atlantic article has an effect on the polls. glenn 15 minutes ago

Virtual hugs much appreciated! Thanks again pinkpantheroz 15 minutes ago

Ad – hubby said an 8-9% lead overall is UNPRECEDENTED. We may see a ’72 rout. Of course in ’72 I was on the LOSING side, so they fucking OWE me. But that’s what’s lining up. choicelady 14 minutes ago

Murph–Hmm, I may be changing my mind about voting in person…. glenn 14 minutes ago

glenn, if the pro-shitface military doesn’t rethink their psition, they are dumb as a bag of spanners pinkpantheroz 14 minutes ago

BTW, Choicelady’s group, IMPACT, is fantastic with smart folks. Great and informed views on the issues. AdLib 14 minutes ago

glenn – I’d vote by drop off if not by mail rather than risk the lines. choicelady 14 minutes ago

PPO – Trump is caving on the military support. He is losing in poll after poll with the troops AND most of the generals. choicelady 13 minutes ago

CL – That’s great to know, about Prop 22! AdLib 13 minutes ago

Well, after all the good news and vibes, I’d better go take care of the Memsahib. Thanks again for everything. pinkpantheroz 13 minutes ago

Ad–I agree about Wallace not being a RTLB lapdog. Also, I’ve read several articles lately that if Biden does well in the first debate with a fox moderator, that the RTLB will find some excuse to cancel the rest of the debates. glenn 12 minutes ago

Ad – THANK YOU for that testimonial! We do our best to ferret out “unintended consequenses” of propositions that LOOK god but that aren’t. f choicelady 12 minutes ago

Cheerio, PPO! Take care of Fergie! And yourself! glenn 12 minutes ago

PPO – we are just over the moon at your news. Have a GREAT weekend and life to come! choicelady 12 minutes ago

CL – Agreed! I think Biden will win by bigger margins than polls will predict. I’m hearing that Gen Z registration is already much higher than expected. And most states are seeing big increases of new voters for mail in voting. Turnout will be massive I think, for Biden. AdLib 10 minutes ago

I just cannot think of a better end to a perfectly horrid week than to get PPO’s news. MAJOR upper! choicelady 10 minutes ago

Murph and CL–You all are making me re-think my choice to vote in person. I will think about it If I do vote by absentee, I’ll definitely use a drop-off box. glenn 10 minutes ago

Ad – I do agree. And I think any slime that Barr or Trump bring in October will work against THEM not against Dems. choicelady 10 minutes ago

Just got a tweet from a man we call The General (he was actually a Colonel but acts like he has at least two stars- was on several high rankers staffs)….very right wing, very Trump, and very angry tonight. Here is his Tweet…..”I am shattered. I spoke with all three of my bosses – the guys with the stars- today. They tell me that the Atlantic story checks out. They tell me that Biden is only Patriot’s choice. Gut punched.” MurphTheSurf3 9 minutes ago

CL – Yes, I remember riding the emotional rollercoaster in most previous presidential elections and this time, despite the worry, Biden stays far ahead. Ths is unprecedented in my experience. AdLib 9 minutes ago

MURPH – that is amazing. I am seriously sorry for the General having been dumb enough to believe in Trump, but better he finds that out NOW. choicelady 9 minutes ago

CL–Yes, PPO’s news about his Fergie is stupendous! glenn 9 minutes ago

For a Dem that is. AdLib 9 minutes ago

CL….your group is extraordinary…..a check on bad government and a promoter of the good…..with a history of influence. MurphTheSurf3 8 minutes ago

glenn – I still wonder if Trump will debate at all. Will he limp like Quasimodo across the stage then ramble incoherently? AdLib 7 minutes ago

Ad – yes. We prosper under Dems. I do worry a LOT that the economic hell Biden inherits will be dangerously unstable. I think he has to come clean on it. I do NOT mind if Biden works w WS to stabilize things but I’m not sure how the Fed having bought up trillions in corporate bonds will work in the future. It makes me sick. But if Biden OWNS it, and says this is what TRUMP did, I think it will get soilidarity going. choicelady 7 minutes ago

CL….I like the General but he has been exasperating….I will call him tomorrow. MurphTheSurf3 7 minutes ago

Murph–So glad that the military is finally seeing the light! He is telling his friends and they need to tell their friends and so and so on. Hopefully, we’ll see a military blitzkreig against the RTLB! glenn 6 minutes ago

Thanks, Murph. We do have a good track record. choicelady 6 minutes ago

CL…great economic strategy…. MurphTheSurf3 6 minutes ago

Ad–What an image! It would not surprise me if that happens, though. He has been losing both physical and cognitive ability rapidly! glenn 5 minutes ago

CL – Of course! All your great work has helped shape IMPACT (along with your colleagues) into my ideal of a lobbying group that works for good results for all. AdLib 5 minutes ago

Murph – tell him, seriously, to review Ge. Milley’s stand on Trump. Milley has repudiated Trump entirely. choicelady 5 minutes ago

Ad – thank you. We do try! choicelady 5 minutes ago

CL–You are a wonder! Thanks for all the wonderful work you and your group has been doing. glenn 5 minutes ago

I upped my monthly contribution to Trump/Harris today…..hurts a bit but I want to contribute. Oddly, I feel very close to Joe Biden right now….as close as I felt to Obama when I worked for the campaign in 2008. MurphTheSurf3 4 minutes ago

CL…great call. Milley it is. MurphTheSurf3 4 minutes ago

Murph – that is wonderful. I’m donating quite a lot. Benefit of being house bound from COVID and smoke is that we spend NOTHING going out to eat. So we donate! choicelady 4 minutes ago

Well, my good folks, it’s time for me to call it a night. PPO’s good news has really cheered me, as well as talking to all of you. glenn 3 minutes ago

Murph–Trump/Harris?????? glenn 3 minutes ago

Murph – Sorry it was because of this gut punch but very glad to hear The General’s views. You know that probably represents a lot more Repubs in the service turning angrily from Trump. Which is why Trump is so freaked out. He can’t win ver other voters and now he’s shriking his base. AdLib 3 minutes ago

Good night, glenn. I think I’m ambling, too. This was fun, and it’s the most hopeful I think we all have been. choicelady 3 minutes ago

Glenn…clearly I am brain dead….time to go…. MurphTheSurf3 3 minutes ago

Ad….the General has had the pins pulled out from under him. MurphTheSurf3 2 minutes ago

Murph – LOL!!! All is forgiven. You can GO home now!

choicelady 2 minutes ago

I too will be going I think. This was a great night. MurphTheSurf3 2 minutes ago

Bye! MurphTheSurf3 2 minutes ago

Good night dear friends! choicelady 2 minutes ago

CL – As son as Biden gets in and we learn how many trillions Trump has shovelled into the pockets of Wall Street companies and the wealthy, including Trump and his family, turning off that spigot will hammer the economy but hopefully Biden will ignore the Repubs suddenly crying about the defecit and invest trillions in remaking our economy so it works. AdLib a few seconds ago

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