Vox Populi, our weekly live chat aboout the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PDT. Hpe to see you then! AdLib 6 hours ago

Hi Ad. HOw are you? pinkpantheroz 4 hours ago

Hey PPO! AdLib 4 hours ago

has drumpf resigned yet? pinkpantheroz 4 hours ago

Doing fine, grateful to be comparatively healthy. How are you and Fergie doing today? AdLib 4 hours ago

Hey glenn! AdLib 4 hours ago

Not bad, DG, Ad. Still cocooned, but still clean. pinkpantheroz 4 hours ago

Hey PPO and Ad–Do you still have your cold, Ad? Is that why you’re comparatively healthy? Or are you comparatively healthy compared to others who are not? glenn 4 hours ago

Dumper is self-destructing each day. That “rally-round-the-flag” initial polling bump is evaporating. In two months, Trump should be in the 30%s for approval (because his cult members would rather die than admit they were wrong. AdLib 4 hours ago

PPO–Are you a clean old man? And Fergie is clean as well? glenn 4 hours ago

As you may know, I have AMD and need 4 weekly eye injections, My eye injection was put forward to Wednesday, so I had to go there. Very impressed! They have an airlock-type double auto door entrance. When I got there, i was only admitted into the gap between the 2 doors. A fully suited nurse stuck a thing on my forehead and only then could I proceed into the reception area as my temp was fine. Normally it is crowded, but now they had only 6 seats yards apart and only me and one other there. My eyes were checked and I was sent down for the injection. Normally 10 seats all full waiting, but only 3 people and 3 seats apart. Lots of Purell gel . The injection went fine and I got my cab home. The cabbies are obliged to clean their cabs every hour! All great. When I got home, I went through the laundry and washed my hands there before going further into the house. Fergie was so relieved, she had been so afraid. So back into the HErmitage for me! Shopping went OK as well, TG. They actually had TP and Kleenex! Only one pack TP and 2 boxes kleenex allowed. pinkpantheroz 4 hours ago

PPO – Relatively quarantined over here but we are getting out here and there, but not around or too close to people. AdLib 4 hours ago

glenn – My cold is over, still trying to wrap up the remaining little bit of congestion. How are you doing? AdLib 4 hours ago

Hi, glenn pinkpantheroz 4 hours ago

Ad–And the TLB’s cultists will support him to their dying breaths. Sad… glenn 4 hours ago

literally, glenn, unfortunately pinkpantheroz 4 hours ago

Ad–Same old, same old. Still in my cocoon, as PPO says, and I’m well. glenn 4 hours ago

PPO – That actually sounds a bit reassuring, how your doctor’s office has adapted so quickly to protecting everyone. So glad they’ve done this and clearly, made you feel comfortable going there. AdLib 4 hours ago

I see CBS finally has a reporter with a pair, and she’s an Asian Woman! She interrupted IT and demanded he answer the question (Nasty, eh?) pinkpantheroz 4 hours ago

glenn – Trump actually seems to be getting a sick satisfaction at NY and other blue states having so many deaths (that he helped cause!). Trump is truly evil, nw he is a documented mass murderer, all in pursuit of re-election. This is the most obscene human being and the GOP just applauds it all! AdLib 4 hours ago

PPO–Your doctor’s precautions are impressive. Good on him/them. glenn 4 hours ago

glenn, it is an eye clinic, and they are normally very conscious about cleanliness anyway, but yes, VERY impressed. pinkpantheroz 4 hours ago

PPO – Let’s hear it for those “Nasty Women”? Trump and Repubs may call them that, Dems call them “Courageous and principled women”. AdLib 4 hours ago

Ad, proper journalists. Now there is no reason for others not to do the same. pinkpantheroz 4 hours ago

And how about Jared advertising that he is a total moron in that press conference? Not exactly news to may of us. AdLib 4 hours ago

many AdLib 4 hours ago

PPO–And, yet, she persisted. I wish reporters would work off each others’ questions, especially when the TLB just rambles on and doesn’t answer questions. They should all follow up on each other, instead of asking him different questions. And, they should make sure that they keep repeating his and his evil son’s-in-law statements. glenn 4 hours ago

Hey Murph! Thanks for the video, enjoyed it! AdLib 4 hours ago

murph! You OK? pinkpantheroz 4 hours ago

glenn – Many WH reporters seem cowardly and too desperate to preserve their access to seriously challenge a bully of a president. AdLib 4 hours ago

Ad, and that moron of a Governoor who didn’t realise non-symptomatic people could be infectious. ‘ pinkpantheroz 4 hours ago

Ad–Yup. The GOP has enabled a mass murderer. glenn 4 hours ago

They’ve seen other reporters harassed and kicked out (only to return). They’re too afreaid to stand up to Trump. But the few who do are heralded as fantastic. AdLib 4 hours ago

PPO–Please, that moron of a governor happens to be my governor. Why do you think I self-isolated long before the order. glenn 4 hours ago

glenn…… (bowing head) let us pray! pinkpantheroz 4 hours ago

Ad–Yeah, Jared just proved what we all knew, but now we actually have video of it. glenn 4 hours ago

PPO – Yes, GA Gov Kemp is a bald faced liar. He knew that but he needed to show loyalty to Trump by refusing to issue a stay-at-home order because Trump doesn’t want the economy shut down…or people not to die, if it means he might lose re-election. AdLib 4 hours ago

Hello All…I just finished reading the thread to the moment. PPO – doc’s office protocol was truly impressive. Ad…glad you are better….Glenn….your governor is a total waste of space….he is either a fool, an idiot, or a trumpista liar. MurphTheSurf3 4 hours ago

glenn, it seems that there is one major item in incredibly short supply all over the USA. Its use could save thousands. What is it? COMMON SENSE! pinkpantheroz 4 hours ago

glenn – Any way to isolate Kemp forever? On a cruise ship going to Wuhan I hope? AdLib 4 hours ago

Of course glenn….he could be all three. MurphTheSurf3 4 hours ago

Ad–I know. But you would think that in 3 and a half years, reporters would change the way they cover the TLB. I’m glad to see some networks have quit covering his “press briefings”, otherwise known as lie fests, live. glenn 4 hours ago

Ad..I like your take on Trump’s malfeasance….a mass murderer. Truly hate him. MurphTheSurf3 4 hours ago

glenn – In what insane world can Repubs sit back and watch Trump’s moronic son-in-law take charge of a global pandemic…when his only experience is being a crooked real estate failure? AdLib 4 hours ago

Our PM here is copping flak because the cruise ship in Sydney disembarked 2600 passengers, 400 of whom have the virus. Why did they allow it? His Pentecostal cult Hillsong friends were aboard! pinkpantheroz 4 hours ago

Glenn…push back by the reporters gets them bounced…meanwhile those who favor Trump get a pass on anything they say or do. MurphTheSurf3 4 hours ago

Murph–yeah, my governor is the same one who stole the election from Stacey Abrams by “purging” the voter rolls. And, yes, he is all three of those things you mentioned. I would also add corrupt. glenn 4 hours ago

glenn – I think the majority of people are displaying common sense. But China hid the pandemic which deceived people into thinking it was not serious, Trump did the same thing, Putin has done the same thing, all of these tyrants have been so comfortable causing the deaths of thousands to protect their image and in an attempt to defend their economies. All are sociopaths. AdLib 4 hours ago

PPO…..here there are states that are doing stay-at-here except for church…cuz Jeebus will protect HIS PEOPLE you know. Your PM probably can relate to that. MurphTheSurf3 4 hours ago

Well, didn’t It himself just say he’s only a caretaker? Who is running things, not KKKucher? pinkpantheroz 4 hours ago

Murph, the dingbats are trying that here as well, but are being told NO pinkpantheroz 4 hours ago

PPO–Most Americans lost their common sense long before this pandemic. Which is why we have republicans in office; people have believed their lies, instead of using common sense. glenn 4 hours ago

Ad…did you see that Putin is sending aid to European countries to help them with the pandemic (as his nation is starting to rot from the Pandemic there). MurphTheSurf3 4 hours ago

glenn – That does reflect a change, the news networks no longer covering his propaganda episodes. So they have made some changes but most questions asked shows too many journos are in a DC bubble. They should be unrelentingly tough on Trump and the deaths he is responsible for among other crimes he’s abetting right now. AdLib 4 hours ago

Ad–Yup, tyrants have no compassion for the people they “rule”. Just think….republicans lost their minds about 4 Americans killed in Benghazi; we had umpteen investigations about it; and the conclusion was that Hillary did nothing wrong. Yet the TLB is talking about over 100,000 deaths being a “good job”. And republiscums are silent. glenn 4 hours ago

Murph – I saw someone accusing Trump of genocide but I found that innappropriate since it usually means killing people of the same ethnicity. But what it should be called is what it is, mass murder by Trump. For example, if Trump found out in advance that a punchbowl had been poisoned and he allowed people to drink from that punchbowl, knowing they would die, while hyping the punch as “tremendous” and “safe”, wouldn’t he be guilty of murder? AdLib 4 hours ago

pinkpantheroz 4 hours ago

I find Trump’s behavior during those daily briefings so representative of what is going on in his head. Yet, his followers regard him as Presidential as he hems, haws, looks bored, grabs the microphone, sway back and forth glancing around aimlessly, and ultimately engaging in multiple personality presentations at the podium. MurphTheSurf3 4 hours ago

Ad–wouldn’t your scenario be more “accessory to murder”, unless the TLB was the one who poisoned the punch bowl? glenn 4 hours ago

PPO…It took me two viewings see what had been done to the video….Pence…hah! MurphTheSurf3 4 hours ago

Ad…I agree….mass murder is the correct label. MurphTheSurf3 4 hours ago

Murph–don’t forget the press, who, if the TLB says ONE true thing, all gush over how “presidential” he has become. Then he shows his true colors, or brings on Jared, who says the ventilators are “theirs”. glenn 4 hours ago

PPO – Imagine if Trump was in the WH during WWII, he’d tell the states to send their National Guard members to fight Hitler and the Feds would be “caretakers”. WTF? AdLib 4 hours ago

Glenn….the efforts of the MSM to dignify the man have indeed been lame in the name of being “fair”. MurphTheSurf3 4 hours ago

glenn – A majority of Americans voted agaist Trump. He’s in office because of Comey and the FBI, Russia and the Electoral College all sabotaged the popular vote. AdLib 4 hours ago

What kind of government pardons a war criminal and fires a captain for worrying about his 4000 crew? pinkpantheroz 4 hours ago

Ad–You know, I keep saying (usually to myself, since I’m the only one here) WTF? It sometimes is the only way to describe what is happening. glenn 4 hours ago

FDR….HST….DWE…..all war time presidents…..who served their offices well….Trump is a meager shadow of any of them. MurphTheSurf3 4 hours ago

Murph – Exactly, everyone knows that viruses are afraid of going into churches because of all the crosses everywhere. Oh wait, that’s vampires. AdLib 4 hours ago

See, the TLB has made me talk to myself. Well, I guess since I’m not answering myself, it’s okay isn’t it? Isn’t it? Of course, considering there is no answer to WTF, that’s a pretty low bar, I guess. Now I’m talking in circles…. glenn 4 hours ago

glenn, you’re still making more sense that he is! pinkpantheroz 4 hours ago

than pinkpantheroz 4 hours ago

Murph – Putin’s BS propaganda using medical supplies isn’t going to sway anyone, his country is in deep trouble because he’s engaged in this coverup just like Trump was…until our free press blew Trump’s BS away. Russia desn’t have that, it’s going to be worse there, I’d bet. AdLib 4 hours ago

Murph–when is the MSM going to learn that there is absolutely NO way to dignify the TLB? He just won’t let them, yet they keep trying. What is the definition of insanity? The MSM needs to start doing something differently! glenn 4 hours ago

Did you see the exit from his ship by the former commander of the Theodore Roosevelt…..word is that Trump wants him court martialed. MurphTheSurf3 4 hours ago

PPO–Thanks, I needed some reassurance that it’s not me, but him! glenn 4 hours ago

glenn – A perfect point, holding up the Repub BS over Benghazi over 4 deaths to their comfort that “only” up to a quarter of a million people may be killed by their and Trump’s intentional neglivence. AdLib 4 hours ago

negligence AdLib 4 hours ago

As for a moment I thought you were a true believer! MurphTheSurf3 4 hours ago

Ad….Putin and Trump two putz’s in a pod. MurphTheSurf3 4 hours ago

pinkpantheroz 4 hours ago

Murph–please tell me that it isn’t true that the TLB wants the honest commander court martialed? Can you tell me your source for that? Just curious. glenn 4 hours ago

PPO! That video is so hilarious!!! Haven’t seen it before!!! AdLib 4 hours ago

PPO–That is a great video. I almost cried when I saw it! glenn 4 hours ago

Glenn…the main line MSMers are so committed to a culture of fairness that it is hard for them to go Full Fox on the TLB…..probably the honorable thing to do but not effective given the audience. MurphTheSurf3 4 hours ago

PPO–Referring to the commander leaving his ship video, not the Pence one. glenn 4 hours ago

got it, g pinkpantheroz 4 hours ago

‘Capt. Crozier’, starring Tom Hanks pinkpantheroz 4 hours ago

Glenn…today listening to NPR- their Pentagon reporter made the point that this was the scuttlebutt making the rounds there. MurphTheSurf3 4 hours ago

Murph – Very well described! Trumps propaganda conferences have become so blatant, the chorus of even their own hosts for news networks to stop airing them is so clarifying. Trump’s bump in the polls has been destrooyed, I think by Nov he will be so hated, he would lose in a landslide to a handful of dirt. AdLib 4 hours ago

Murph–I understand what you’re saying about a “culture of fairness”, but it ceases to become fairness when they allow him to lie in real time. Record the briefing, and then when re-playing it, list all the lies, discrepancies, falsehoods, etc. when doing so. That is a culture of fairness. Not to mention, the fairness doctrine was dismantled by ronnie, and repubs and fox news have used it to their advantage since then. glenn 4 hours ago

Thanks ad….I agree….I am hearing a lot of criticism of “the government” here now…..not too far a leap from facing that it is Trump’s government. MurphTheSurf3 4 hours ago

glenn – Being an accessory to murder is still being engaged in murder, still making one a murderer even if they are doing it in concert with comeone or something else. I do think your description is technically most descriptive of his legal guilt but de facto, I think he is a mass murderer. AdLib 4 hours ago

Glenn….the press has, by and large, been very critical of what he says and has tracked his lies BUT they were sensitive (Likely too sensitive) to criticism that they were trying to undo an election so even when critical the tone was neutral and not outraged. MurphTheSurf3 4 hours ago

Murph–WOW! That is so sad. On what grounds will he be court martialed, did they say? glenn 4 hours ago

PPO – That is the central thought in my mind too, Trump pardons a war criminal who shot children and burned human beings but supports firing a commander who spoke out to save his crew from death. It is insane. AdLib 4 hours ago

Ad–I hope he loses in a landslide. And if the GOP has its way, I’m sure they will throw all the dirt they can at Biden, especially now with the sexual assault charges. glenn 4 hours ago

The reporter, a woman who was in the navy herself, said that there were no charges that anyone could come up with except that insubordination, failure to abided by coded procedure, and release of his letter without permission….none CM level. Of course Trump would put it in terms of embarrassing the president which would elevate all charges. MurphTheSurf3 4 hours ago

glenn, funny how the charges against Biden didn’t surface when he was being vetted for VP. pinkpantheroz 4 hours ago

Ad–Yeah, he is a mass murderer; even if it is just technically. I just can’t wrap my mind around the people who still support him. glenn 4 hours ago

Glenn…those sexual assault charges seem to be as flimsy as Trumps hold on facts. MurphTheSurf3 4 hours ago

Murph, ‘Bringing the US Navy into disrepute” ???? pinkpantheroz 4 hours ago

PPO….maybe, but do not know how that can be shaped as a violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. MurphTheSurf3 4 hours ago

PPO – If Trump continues like this, we could see something even scarier, a revolt by some in the military against Trump and the government. Attack their leaders, murder their fellow sailors and soldiers, lock the military students in small rooms where 3 commit suicide. That can all come together as a revolt which I don’t want to see, it would be scary. AdLib 4 hours ago

Murph–of course, we must NEVER embarrass Hair Fuhrer! How silly of me to not recognize that! glenn 4 hours ago

The Top Brass of the Navy is shit scared of CIC, so they are ignoring the health of their people. THAT is criminal pinkpantheroz 4 hours ago

Ad “lock the military students in small rooms where 3 commit suicide”…did zi miss something big. MurphTheSurf3 4 hours ago

Hey CHoicelady! AdLib 4 hours ago

PPO–Of course they didn’t surface then. Dontcha know the MSM is in the Dems’ pocket? glenn 4 hours ago

OK – I came in at Hair Fuhrer and knew I was home!!! How is everyone? choicelady 4 hours ago

Choice……!!!! Good Lord!…….WOW….MADE MY WEEK! MurphTheSurf3 4 hours ago

silly me, glenn! Murdoch is such a feral Leftie! pinkpantheroz 4 hours ago

BRB choicelady 4 hours ago

Murph – The problem with MSMers who need to prove they’re impartial and fair by doing “bothsiderisms” and seeking opportunities to compliment Trump is that there isn’t a both-sides to a sociopathic murderer. AdLib 4 hours ago

Murph–those sexual assault charges may be flimsy, but by the time the repubs get done with their lying, they will be worse than Benghazi, Hillary’s emails, and WWII all wrapped together. Not to mention Hunter’s transgressions. glenn 4 hours ago

ad, Putin must be beside himself! 1917 all over again! pinkpantheroz 4 hours ago

Last week I shared with you all efforts by the Co-op I belong to and helped found. Things are going well but as the Virus digs in deeper here we will see if that can hold p. MurphTheSurf3 4 hours ago

Ad….sociopathic, egomanical murderer. yes MurphTheSurf3 4 hours ago

glenn – If a fair and full vote is had in Nov, I think Trump will be buried. And Dems will take The Senate and keep the House. The qualifier here is whether a full and fair election is held. AdLib 4 hours ago

Glenn….the problem for the GOP is that Trump and their credibility is being eclipsed and Trump himself has far more charges lurking just off stage. MurphTheSurf3 4 hours ago

murph, won’t stop GOP cheating wherever they can pinkpantheroz 4 hours ago

Murph: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/03/30/air-force-academy-senior-cadets-deaths-suicide-pandemic/5089018002/ AdLib 4 hours ago

PPO….yeah there is that. MurphTheSurf3 4 hours ago

Hi – I’m back. glenn those charges are not remotely carrying the heft that the charges against Hillary did precisely BECAUSE she took it for the team. I doubt anyone is going to believe them OTHER than Berners who started it and Trump cultists who, today, still believe Pizzagate. choicelady 4 hours ago

That link is the story of military students who committed suicide because they were forced to severe quarantines at military school. AdLib 4 hours ago

ad- did NOT see that story!!! choicelady 4 hours ago

Ad–you know, when I read about the TLB pardoning the war criminal, I thought about the book/movie, “Seven Days in May”, where a corrupt general tries to take over the country. Can’t remember the whole plot, but I believe Kirk Douglas played the general. Anyway, this would be the opposite, where the military tries to take out a corrupt president, but it would be just as bad, IMO. Dems need to investigate the hell out of the TLB’s corrupt and malfeasant handling of this crisis. glenn 4 hours ago

Doing well, CL, hope you and hubby are well too! AdLib 4 hours ago

Choice–missed you coming and going, but I’m glad you’re back. Yeah, I like Hair Fuhrer almost as much as TLB. glenn 4 hours ago

We’re good in Sacto despite the Russian Pentecostals who refuse to stop meeting and have 71 cases among them – all spread out in Sacramento and Placer counties. I wish they’d self segregate as the Amish do and just let it rip. But noooo – they have to “share”. choicelady 4 hours ago

Ad..just finished reading the AFA story…shocking….. MurphTheSurf3 4 hours ago

glenn and all – what th HELL is TLB? I know I will like it, but I don’t know what it means. choicelady 4 hours ago

Murph – My policy is always t begin by believing claims by women of abuse but remaining open to contradictory eviidence. And there are mountains of evidence of that woman lying on many occassions, being a troll for Putin and changing her story about Biden many times. She comes off as wholly unreliable. AdLib 4 hours ago

Hi PPO – didn’t get to say hi. HI Murph!!! choicelady 4 hours ago

CL–That was my point, though. The charges don’t carry the same heft, but that doesn’t make a difference to repubs. And, I’m not talking about the TLB’s cultists, I’m talking about people like McConnell, Rubio, and all of the TLB’s other toadies who will repeat those charges ad nasuem. And, of course, foxsocallednews. glenn 4 hours ago

Is HArleigh OK? He’s in the Death Star state, and I worry about him]\ choicelady 4 hours ago

hi choice. lovely to see you pinkpantheroz 4 hours ago

Ad with you on the take re. the woman in question. MurphTheSurf3 4 hours ago

Hello Choice….absolutely fantastic to see you here. MurphTheSurf3 4 hours ago

CL–Oops, sorry. I’ve been using the TLB for a while now. Stands for Treasonous, Lying, Bully. glenn 4 hours ago

I use ‘It’ as in Cousin. pinkpantheroz 4 hours ago

CL–Harleigh was here last week; he was his old succinct, sarcastic self. glenn 4 hours ago

Glenn…Harleigh has been here…and is self isolating but I fear that FLA is going to be horrific…so many old people, packed together,in a state with poor public medicine resources. MurphTheSurf3 4 hours ago

CL – And the election is going to be about one thing, stopping or empowering Trump to become a full blown tyrant. The charges that will keep coming out against Biden will be exposed as phony but to be honest, Trump has been openly worse in every way than anything they can even accuse Biden of. AdLib 4 hours ago

glenn- I never worry overmuch about the various cults. I think the “worried middle” are sick of psycho conspiracies of which the rape story is one. choicelady 4 hours ago

I think the extremists, left and right, have finally overplayed their hands. choicelady 4 hours ago

CL – Yes, so much COVID-19 and Trump filling the news, really tragic and awful stories like these suicides are just buried. AdLib 4 hours ago

can anyone please explain why Bernie is still shilling? pinkpantheroz 4 hours ago

Ad and Murph–Hadn’t heard all that about Biden’s accuser, but it doesn’t surprise me. glenn 4 hours ago

That’s just so awful. So sad. choicelady 4 hours ago

PPO – Bernie shills to get moolah. Those fourth houses don’t just pay for themselves, you know. choicelady 3 hours ago

One of the members of our Co-op coordinating group is a member of a “Primitive” Baptist Church near where I live. He tells us that we have corrupted him because he is not going there on the Sabbath because we have planted seeds of doubt in his heart….to which we say “Hallelujah. Praise Jesus.” MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

glenn – I love “Seven Days in May”! And Kirk Douglas was the hero, who exposes and stops Burt Lancaster who is mounting a military coup to take over the US. This is indeed the opposite, Trump has burrowed his people into power in every institution, including the military, and good people are at risk if they don’t follow Herr Trump. AdLib 3 hours ago

CL–I hope you and Ad are correct in that people are sick of the phony, psycho conspiracies lately. The TLB needs to be voted out in such numbers that even he can’t deny them. glenn 3 hours ago

Primitive, Murph? Neanderthal if you ask me. What is the matter with people? pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

CL…..Bernie is really disgusting me now…..if he wants to have a shred of dignity left….he needs to endorse Biden and then let the Dems work out a Conventionless nomination process. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Murph !!! Hallelujah indeed!!! Tell him Matthew 10 is Jesus’ directive to the Apostles – go heal the cities, THEN worry about the message. Your friend is doing Jesus’ work by staying home. choicelady 3 hours ago

glenn – I do think trump will be overwhelmed by votes for Biden. Even Putin can’t screw it up. choicelady 3 hours ago

PPO…Primitive refers to their fundamentalism and ground up leadership. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

CL – Harleigh was here last week and was doing well. He should hopefully be just as well tonight. AdLib 3 hours ago

Ad–That’s right…it was Burt Lancaster who played the general. Both he and Douglas were fantastic in their roles. glenn 3 hours ago

Choice I will pass your blessing along to her. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Thanks all for saying Harleigh is OK. I’ve been worried about him since the idiocy of Desantis hit the media. choicelady 3 hours ago

Murph – Yes that suicide story is sickening. Horrible what some awful people in positions of authority are doing to harm those relying on them. AdLib 3 hours ago

Murph–Hallelujah, indeed! glenn 3 hours ago

Murph – WHY did I assume your friend was male? Well, she should be proud to follow Jesus’ directive. choicelady 3 hours ago

why was the commandant permitted to do as he did….investigation please. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Ad, Murph – I don’t know this story, but my guess is the commandant is a Dominionist. We have tracked HUGE numbers of suicides to that ultra RW cultism. Horrid. choicelady 3 hours ago

Choice……she is a farmer….husband died several years ago but she has continued to make a success of her family holding…a very strong woman and a leader. I hope that this turning away from her church’s practice is another sign of that leadership. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Hazing and bullying – very Trumpian, wouldn’t you say? pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Well, folks, it’s time for me to call it a night. Glad to chat with all of you tonight. And doubly glad to hear from you CL. Everyone please take care, be safe, and we’ll be able to do this again next week. glenn 3 hours ago

CL…I haven’t made that dominionist connection before. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Murph – good on her, as Molly Ivins used to say. choicelady 3 hours ago

PPO – The most charitable explanation I have for Bernie staying in is that he knows he’s lost but wants to press Biden to move farther over to his positions, which would be fine with me. I don’t like how conservative Biden is on many issues. However, a very likely reason could be Bernie’s ego, realizing that this will be the end of his relevance and fame and spotlight. Bernie wants to keep all of that as long as he can but he has to know it’s all over now. AdLib 3 hours ago

same here, glenn. Cheerio to all. please stay safe and healthy pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Thank you so much……peace and health. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Oh, glenn – sorry I got her so late we can’t talk more. Stay healthy and well even if bored out of your socks. Your family, too! choicelady 3 hours ago

Thanks, all, and g’nite! glenn 3 hours ago

Ad….I think you are correct on both sides of the explanation. …his positions/relevance, his ego, his fading light. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Goodnight PPO. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

glenn – Here’s a link to a story on the woman who is making these claims against Biden, it seems pretty convincing that she is lying…again. https://medium.com/@eddiekrassenstein/evidence-casts-doubt-on-tara-reades-sexual-assault-allegations-of-joe-biden-e4cb3ee38460 AdLib 3 hours ago

Well choice…it is you, ad and me. Still a nice group. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Ad – you know I worked Sheila Kuehl’s single payer? For YEARS. Well, i don’t WANT Bernie’s plan because it stinks. It’s not legislation, it’s a manifesto. He just wants to tear our health system down, but the “bill” is nothing but rant, NO DETAILS. Bern can’t push people farther Left because Dems were there BEFORE him. choicelady 3 hours ago

Absoolutely, Murph! AdLib 3 hours ago

Oh I missed PPO. Sorry! choicelady 3 hours ago

Choice…your description of the Bernie Healthcare Manifesto describes his entire legislative history on anything substantive. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

One of the things the Co-op is working to do is to provide home medical support for our members….food, meds, and check ins MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Murph – yes. He has had TWO bills in 30 years. He is a superficial thinker, a vapid vulgar Marxist. Biden is actaully MORE progressive than Bernie on most every issue. Bernie is not a well informed person. choicelady 3 hours ago

Murph – Yep, Bernie is only soiling his own reputation the longer he keeps clinging to the primary. His clout is diminishing daily, had he only been smart enough to make a deal with Biden on some issues after FL then drop out, he’d have accomplished more than he will. Diminishing returns should be Bernie’s campaign theme now. AdLib 3 hours ago

Ad- spot ON. choicelady 3 hours ago

Ad…apt summary of the Burning Down of the Bernie Facade MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Yes, CL, I know you have had your sleeves rolled up and worked hands on with Kuehl’s single payer plan, I know you have a lot of experience and insight here. AdLib 3 hours ago

So, Choice, what’s up with you? MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Murph – we are locked down. I have become a latter day hunger gatherer. I’m having minimal success, but I got catch my “kill” Sunday with an order I HOPE gets filled at a local market. I MISS modern indolence!!! choicelady 3 hours ago

CL>……an endorsement of Biden as progressive by you is a very impressive matter. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

How about you two? Hope you are well and tolerating “sequestration” better than I am! choicelady 3 hours ago

CL – There’s always a core problem with someone who is less liked the more he works with people. No one in The Senate likes Bernie. Hillary was right. It’s clear he is a windbag and a cantankerous man who craves the spotlight. He couldn’t be bothered to be in DC when they had to vote on the $2 trillion relief bill but comes in later to showboat against Repubs. AdLib 3 hours ago

Choice Latter Day Hunger/Gatherer…or Hunter/Gatherer….in that case what are you hunting and what are you gathering? MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

CL – We’re doing okay, we are getting out a little here and there but keeping our distance from other people. AdLib 3 hours ago

Ad…..Bernie’s committees always die…..thus he gets tapped rarely for leadership. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Ad – I went to Antioch for two years back in the day I was surrounded by Bernies. They were disgusting. Vapid, elite racists, misogynists, and just dumb. Bernie is of that ilk who never grew up. He thinks throwing verbal bombs will “challenge” people, when all it is turns out to be bad boys dropping drawers and mooning the adults to vex them. choicelady 3 hours ago

Every committee Bernie touches, dies. Trump is jealous. AdLib 3 hours ago

Choice…the co-op I helped found and continue to work with (despite the efforts of some to bounce that lib-tard, me) and we are doing our part to support the old, and the very poor in our area during the pandemic….. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Choice….let’s see if I understand your thinking regarding Sen. Sanders…….you do not care for him much…..to say the least. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Murph – that is what I think will come out of this crisis – local, people driven solutions. The big guys won’t survive well. YOU will. choicelady 3 hours ago

I dated Sanders types. No. I know them too well. Ugh. choicelady 3 hours ago

Our local House Rep. keeps trying to nose his way into our efforts…..our rule is no pols and since this is Redland that comes down to no GOPers MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

CL – I have seen some pretty awful and typical Bernie Bros on Twitter ad the worst are his official campaign people. AdLib 3 hours ago

I was at Walmart today an witnessed two fights (physical) and three altercations (yelling arguments)…..civil accord is starting to shake here. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

I had early involvement with DSA when it was DSoc. Sat on Tom Hayden’s porch talking strategy one night. I learned what assholes they were – elitist fucks sneering at POC and poor people. I was invited to work Hayden’s Senate campaign but declined. NOT interested in promoting people who “live humanity but hate people”. Done. Over and out. choicelady 3 hours ago

Ad…I know only two Bernie Bros and Sis’s and both are sanctimonious know it alls. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Bernie isn’t nearly as good as Tom Hayden. Hayden got elected to CA state Assembly then Senate and GREW UP. Bernie neer has. choicelady 3 hours ago

never had choicelady 3 hours ago

has choicelady 3 hours ago

Dysliexia of the fingers tonight. choicelady 3 hours ago

Choice….come on, say what you mean!

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CL Good read on Hayden…growing up. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Murph – I haven’t seen fights here…because we’re stayinng at home. AdLib 3 hours ago

Murph – “Sanctimonious” is the perfect word to use about Bernie Bros. AdLib 3 hours ago

Ad….I am the principal shopper for the Co-op….i have med quality masks, and gloves….I observe very careful distance and sanitation protocols…..so…. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Hayden turned out to have a better image earlier on than he warranted. AdLib 3 hours ago

Well….friends…..and I mean that unreservedly….you guys are truly friends……please be well….take good care….and let’s keep each other company during this trying time. Think of you both often. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

I worked with G, William Domhoff, author of “Who Rules America” (1964) He was a seminal thinker – though not always – and then I dated him later. He was my advisor in grad school, and I learned HUGE amounts about American corporate power with and from him. He was a cofounder of In These Times. That said, he was used and abused by Hayden and others, and he never got past pretty superficial assessments of power. But I’m grateful for that start. And have gone way past it. WAY past it. My immersion in real politics has been almost entirely in communities of color. THAT is where the authentic issues lie, where the solutsion exist. I trust Black women. Period. NOBODY pulls shit on Black women! choicelady 3 hours ago

But you’d agree that Repubs in red states are doing far less social distancing than folks in blue states. But they still know this is a pandemic so not surprising to have more stressed out people in public places fighting over supplies. AdLib 3 hours ago

Ad….that makes sense! MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Choice…brilliant….you have had SUCH A WORLD OF EXPERIENCE….in awe! MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

I am exhausted by the self delusions of people. Here in Sac county, ONE RW Pentesocostal church that refused to close has spawened 71 cases of COVID. And they walk among us. Assholes. choicelady 3 hours ago

Same here, Murph! Take good care of yourself and stay safe! AdLib 3 hours ago

CL…..how dare they….really…..they should be cast out of civil society. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Ad…..I will…not leaving quite yet. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

I am animated by these conversations. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

The irony for them is that there will be far less Pentecostals for being Pentecostal inn a pandemic. AdLib 3 hours ago

I am aware that in seculsion weeks have no days, days have no hours, but every now and then people such as Murph remind me. So I also will close out. And I will try to be here more. I love you guys! choicelady 3 hours ago

Sorry Murph, misread your kind words! Thank you though for them! AdLib 3 hours ago

CL…poetry….love you too. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Food night all!!! choicelady 3 hours ago

GOOD night. Sigh. Love you! choicelady 3 hours ago

FOOD Night…got excited! Haha MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

CL left so swiftly! Hope she and her hubby have a great evening! AdLib 3 hours ago

Ad….there is a Pastor here who lost his job because he suggested that sabbath services be canceled MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

There is no dust on CL…she moves like the Roadrunner MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

This forum is SO enriching….I wish I could get others to join in but my powers of persuasion fail. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Again, this is the irony that the people rebeling against protecting their society from a pandemic, thinking their beliefs ad practice of them protects them from getting ill or dying, means there will be less of them to congregate and rebel soon. AdLib 3 hours ago

Ad…just as red states are likely to suffer more in the long run in this pandemic…… MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Murph – Feel the same way, this is like The Sanity Room and The Adult’s Table at the same time. Makes me appreciate everyone here more each week. AdLib 3 hours ago

Sanity Room and Adults’ Table….what great reframing! MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Yes. I think FL, GA, TN, MS, TX will all have terrible percentages of infection and death because they’ve stalled so long for political reasons to prevent the spread. AdLib 3 hours ago

Hey, how about The Adult’s Table In The Sanity Room? AdLib 3 hours ago

Here in Missouri there are several extraordinary medical entities that have taken the bull by the horns……Mercy, Barnes Jewish, SSM, MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

The awful thing though is that the poor and POC have higher rates of infection than the white majority that’s prevented social distancing. AdLib 3 hours ago

The Adult’s Table in The Sanity Room…..catchy! MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Very cool! I think that despite being a red state, MO could escape being as doomed as other red states. AdLib 3 hours ago

Especially with such entities fighting on their own to stop the spread. AdLib 3 hours ago

There is a black church in my area that has been in operation since just after the Civil War…….they do an outstanding job with their outreach and have joined us (and us them) in our mutual efforts a number of times. We are meeting tomorrow via video. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

All have created auxiliary hospital spaces and have secured significant supplies…….I know someone on the Mercy Board of Directors. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

That’s great to hear! This really should be an opportunity for people to come together to protect and help each other. With any other man or woman in the WH, it would have been. AdLib 3 hours ago

Well…since MO is a red state, I’d also bet Trump has delivered whatever supplies were requested ad moreso, as he did in FL. AdLib 3 hours ago

One of the more outrageous “good guys” at my favorite watering hole who has long deified Trump…..is now working with the co-op. He hasn’t said why but I think he is really disillusioned. Good point about supplies from the Trump Tree. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Do you think Repubs there, even if they’re not openly admitting Trump has caused so much destruction in this case, are mving in that direction? AdLib 3 hours ago

Well….tis late and I need to be abed. Maybe this week we can connect….my weeks are running away at light speed right now but it would be good to actually chat…..do you do facetime? I know i have asked before but do not recall your preference. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

I think they are in shells shock…..I doubt that they can bring themselves to vote Democratic but I think a number will not vote at all. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Murph – I’m not big on FT but I was thinking of calling you after getting your email but got sidetracked with home repair stuff (still working on it this weeked). But definitely, let’s talk this upcoming week for certain! AdLib 3 hours ago

weekend. Damn, this laptop keyboard is breaking down like my old one! AdLib 3 hours ago

That sounds good……I have a new phone number that I will send you via e mail and I have a land line which is even better. I willsharethat too. Maybe it is our fingers breaking down! Hah MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Murph, I think the shellshock will only be greater with each passing month. I can only hope that as a matter of survival, they’ll at least see the danger of voting for Trump. AdLib 3 hours ago

Even better! AdLib 3 hours ago

I have been meaning to say that the articles at the Planet have really been great of late…I have been sharing them with folks at Yabberz MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Here is to the transformational qualities of shell shock! Cheers! MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Great to hear! You should post an article here too on what you’re seeing there in MO. AdLib 3 hours ago

I guess he can’t shoot 240,000 people and not lose a voter. AdLib 3 hours ago

I have been posting so little anywhere…..life is too full….as the needs are too many. I thought I would be slowing down as I approach 70 and am post double bypass….but nope! MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Ad…..he can shoot 240,000 people…and…..I think among his core faithful that may be true…..so delusional. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

I think you’re recharged now! And just in time! AdLib 3 hours ago

Ad…..good observation. Many have said I seem to have gained some years back! MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Yep, I think most of his cult followers, who are literally that, are too comitted to their delusion. We must overcome them and I am very confident that we will in Nov. AdLib 3 hours ago

You’re running on all cylinders again! AdLib 3 hours ago

Did you hear that Trump has removed the Intelligence Community Inspector General tonight? The whistle blower reviewer. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

No, I didn’t hear that! He is so black hearted evil, of course he is using this pandemic to sneak around and eliminate his “enemies”. Nixon was an angel compared to this comic book villain. AdLib 3 hours ago

Nixon as angel…..who’d have ever thunk it! Well…those cylinders are telling me get to bed…so I will…..Good night friend. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

No surprise that Barr tried to sieze huge powers at the outset but was stopped cold. They will do all they can to exploit a crisis to sieze all the power they can. So damn evil! AdLib 3 hours ago

Sleep well and hit the ground running again! Talk to you later! AdLib 3 hours ago

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