How long has it been? Who was I even last time I was here?
I am still Khirad, my nom de plume, my kunya still. Long story short, I found the love of my life, got engaged, got my heart decimated, had a mental breakdown. You know, fun life stuff. It’s been long enough in the healing process a couple years on, I don’t need to go on.
Just thought I’d fill you in where I’ve been. You fill in the blanks. Still in Tucson, and got myself a knife roll. I’m somewhere between Anthony Bourdain and Gordon Ramsay – without any of the Michelin stars, stamped passports or well, skill.
I’ve oft missed the Planet. For a while, we couldn’t afford the internet and such when I was with my ex, and I just lost track. For the maybe third time in the last six months, I’ve gotten reported by Trumpists on Facebook. You know the playbook – I get called a fag, a left-wing Antifa Nazi, Democrats are the real racists, Trump is saving America.
I, in my naïveté, operate on good faith. All of a sudden my mom is a whore and my dad is a cuck. Fine, they are, and I’m a piece of shit, – ‘do you have something to add “fag”‘? Boom, reported for hate speech. I’ve started asking my old acquaintances for phone numbers and other contact information since Facebook is still good for that and I resent losing touch with them for even a week for some butthurt orangeflake.
‘Black Mirror’ is one of my favorite shows right now. It nails the absurdity of our brave new world of algorithms. Like a rusty razor blade compared to Doctor Who’s more abstract social commentary. You are judged. No context, no irony. Just clicks and serotonin dependence, like some crypto-Vegas slot machine. I’ve seen it in myself for a while. It’s hard not to get sucked in.
Especially when you’re bored or lonely – it’s fun to connect with friends. It’s just that. Whilst Facebook was never supposed to change the world or anything like that; it was never supposed to become a tentacle of 4Chan, StormFront, and a haven for bullies posting filth about an autistic teenager like Greta Thunberg or a forum for Zimmerman-adoring incels Gleefully posting pictures of Trayvon Martin’s “skeleton”.
I’ve tried ignoring it. They are trolls. But, the occupant of the White House is the Troll God. Like David Bowie in ‘Labyrinth’, if it were in the Upside Down of ‘Stranger Things’ after a pint of Victory Gin and a speech about Michael Palin’s character, – the true hero of ‘Brazil’. Were you to explain Berzelius Windrip to them, they would nod with enthusiastic approval. Without shame. As if Sarah Palin was a little too hoity-toity and had a little too much clarity.
Hell, I’ll never forgive George W Bush for enabling his gang of neocons. I do not miss his administration, but his malapropisms seem quaint now. And honestly, he’s a great ex-president. It’s almost like he was just meant to be a former president (if but we could have skipped that for Gore). He paints. And, apparently, he actually did read.
Trump takes pride in NOT … well. It’s been a long time since I’ve chatted with you folks, but we’re all on the same page, I can imagine. Growing up all the way in the Pacific Northwest, I knew who Donald Trump was. And rather than ignorance about his true character, what has truly disturbed me is it’s not just the tax cuts, judges and Machiavellian cynicism, which I could understand if not respect.
No, they love the vulgarity. A vulgarity even Howard Stern – when it came to it – could not harbor or abide in his former guest. I don’t know if I’m just getting older. I recently turned forty in November. I’m the first to discount the prejudice of immediacy. I’m the first to be skeptical about rose-colored glasses towards the past — even if it is JFK or FDR.
I’ve never made any pretense about being the most together person. My mental illness is part of who I am and I try not to make excuses. But; beyond my recent heartbreak and station in life. Beyond that; I can just feel it in the air. This is different. Even my parents who remember Nixon say so.
Or maybe that’s just Arizona? I kid. Arizona is more purple than people realize. Yet, “kids” in the apartment below me. They’re like a couple in their early twenties. Recently got a brand new car. I’d assumed that their old one had a Trump sticker as a hand-me-down from their parents.
Nope. Their brand new car had a brand new Trump sticker, as well. I can deal with the FOX viewers – all with a foot in the grave. But, that youthful cultish devotion disturbs me more. Although, it could just be I hold a grudge because they’re selfish assholes calling the office on me for no reason when they make twice as much noise.
If not my personal bias, it’s not just Facebook. It’s a pattern. It’s every self-entitled asshole basking in the triumph of their own flatulence. And, if these types weren’t born with a Trust Fund, they somehow think it’s owed to them. That they can worship the god of greed, the Prosperity ‘Gospel’ and triple down.
That they can call you a snowflake, but the moment you push back, they call you the fascist. …I was picked on as a kid. Always, quiet, shy, socially awkward. Not on the autism spectrum, but my ADD/I has similar traits and trouble with social cues.
I shouldn’t let it bother me, but that’s why it does. Instead of a safe space when I’m triggered though, I lash back. And, I don’t need to be told, that that only encourages them. However; when you say I sound like a “school shooter,” I respond sharply.
It’s such a complex issue regarding mental health, gun control, and the fact that most mass shooters aren’t even mentally ill, but bullies themselves. Nevertheless, there is something in their acorn-sized reptile brain that knows they would deserve it – no matter how much I make it clear I think it is wrong – even if I am sarcastic sometimes.
In any case, I’d much rather be here on the Planet, if y’all have me back. It’s just that, I couldn’t believe it was real. I thought they were being sarcastic. I thought it was like American Dad, or even The Producers. But no, no irony. Transgenders are coming for your children, and Democrats have a pedophile ring.
Like, holy &%*&%*&% – wow!?!! I mean, like the John Birch Society had an inbred child with the Tea Party and Zombie Reagan had Nancy conjure up John C. Calhoun after the Puritans were summoned to burn any learning materials.
In any case. Update over, I’d really like to start talking about the Middle East again and talking to people that have more than three brain cells, decency and good faith.
Welcome back, Khirad. Sorry to hear about the crap you have dealt with over the years. I’m glad that I kept my Facebook page private and only go there occasionally. It doesn’t stop them from sending endless emails about friend suggestions of people I don’t know and groups to join that I have no interest in.
Glad you made it back to The Planet.
I’ve become such a curmudgeon. I like positive things about technology, but – while I have a wide palate, including guilty pleasures – I’ve brought up Black Mirror a couple times with Ad Lib already.
I guess, I was hoping to have thoughtful discussions. Someone invited me to a group where there’s about an equal split of conservatives and progressives. I’m not an ecumenical sort, but I thought it would be cool to have a discussion or two with conservatives.
I’m sure it’s still possible – I’ve had conservative and Republican friends, but that stupid group is what has been getting me banned and it tears at the fabric of everything wrong big and small about Facebook and social media.
It tears at what is wrong with me. When I go back to Facebook, I’ll stop the hijinks, and not get myself in dumb arguments. I thought I could reason with some people. Not change their minds, but – it’s so depressing to say this – we are truly in a post-fact age.
George Will, William F. Buckley Junior – that’s not what you’re getting. Even the new darling of the intellectual alt-right, Jordan Peterson, is repugnant.
I digress. Thanks for welcoming me back. I still have friends on Facebook I like to connect with but I should just go back to posting trivial stuff mostly. It’s a waste of time otherwise.
That’s what bugs me the most. I’ve reconnected with several friends from real life and stay in touch with friends I became close with back when Huffington Post was quasi-cool still.
Yet the same sort crying about no due process for Trump [it’s not a court trial I say], are the same sort to get me banned for no reason. I see it as a vacation. They think they are punishing me.
Don’t treat all conservatives as if they are evil, but the ones on social media sites tend to be trolls. You offer them good faith, and, well, it’s just about power with them.
We all make choices we regret and doing it again amounts to self harm. That is why I left HuffPo in 2009. I wasn’t going to let a bunch of strangers that I would never meet, try to tear my opinions into shreds. No more trolls for me. Maybe you expected logic where there wasn’t any to find. Do you really want to go back to this?
As one FB executive said the other day, “We elected trump once and we will do it again”.
Certainly not a site I want to spend my time on.
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Facebook won’t limit political ad targeting or stop false claims under new ad rules
But changes announced Thursday will allow users to exercise more control over which ads they see
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/01/09/facebook-wont-limit-political-ad-targeting-or-stop-pols-lying/
Khirad, sounds like you’ve been living through quite challenging events in your life but very glad you’ve come through it all intact and with your wit and conscience intact.
So you are doing some serious cooking with that knife roll?
The Planet remains an island of sanity, especially in contrast to Facebook. I’ll expand more on this at a later date and I say this merely as more of an outsider from Facebook (PlanetPOV has a page there simply to notify of new posts here but we don’t participate much more than that). Facebook is a poison apple, IMO. It has the sweetness of sharing thoughts and photos with friends and family but it is a malicious actor in the world. It allows itself to be used and/or participates in corrupting democracies and nations while pillaging the private data of over one billion people. That is James Bond evil villain territory.
Not to mention the abuse and hatred that it has and continues to stoke, bringing out the worst that festers in the human psyche. On the other hand, there are lots of nice pictures of cats.
So pulling away from Facebook, whether planned or unplanned is in my mind, a good thing.
As for the whole Trump Hate game, I think it is like a contagious disease. Seeing Trumpers hating so disgustingly outrages fair-minded people, who launch themselves at those enemies of decency. This is a natural reaction for many who hold principles closely in their lives but it seems to be playing into the game. Whether it’s true or not, the Trump Cult feels that every time they can instigate the outrage of decent people, a devil gets its horns. They thrive on this pulling down of everyone into their gutter so no one has the moral high ground over them anymore. I don’t agree with that mindset, they remain morally inferior even so but they do succeed in controlling the slimy location of the conflict which they see as a win.
Freedom in America does not extend to abuse. While we are free to make choices, we don’t have the right to use our freedom to take away that of others. Whether it’s physical, verbal or written harassment, it should not be taken for granted that being subjected to that is the price of freedom.
As Harvey Weinstein is finding out.
It seems a simple zero sum game for the Trump Cult. They hate anyone and everyone who isn’t one of them and following Trump like beaten dogs. They hate every policy or function of government that isn’t Trump’s and cheer on everything that Trump favors with no critical thinking involved. They are true cultists who need Trump emotionally to dominate everyone they fear. And making this just a matter of us against them is as far as their minds go (and Biden keeps saying they will all work with him if he wins? Biden knows better, he was there with Obama as the Repubs executed their absolute opposition to everything including the ACA and SCOTUS picks, Biden is being dishonest about this.)
And engaging hostility towards these Trump Cultists doesn’t accomplish anything. I join you in imagining the gratification of punching Trump in the face (or Mike Pompeo, Bill Barr, etc.) but my next thought is that this is how the Trump Cultists looked at Obama, Pelosi, etc.
So, I think it is natural to become angered at the corrupt and vicious rodents that follow Trump but it allows their venom to seep into one’s mind to battle with them. They can’t be convinced, those reading along already see them as adversaries or fellow cultists and no opinions can be changed.
I think the mission has to be recognizing that the way to punch them all in the face is to take away their power. Communicating instead with the majority who share our outrage at where things are in this country and building a bond and enthusiasm between like-minded, decent-minded people.
As for Black Mirror, have been a big fan of it for years now and anxiously await an announcement for the next season.
And if you recall the “Nosedive” episode that savaged Facebook and social media, “mirroring” China’s actual use of social scores to control who can travel, get employed and in essence, be seen as an acceptable member of society (or shunned by people afraid to see their social score hurt by being too close with someone with a poor social score), there’s another great argument about against being judged or judging in social media by “likes”. And psychologists have found it addictive, the pleasure of getting likes. A site driven by this, as most social media sites are, looks like a dysfunctional present.
Once again, welcome back! I just gave you a 5!
I’ve thought of you guys for a while. Yeah I’ve learned a lot about life. Took me over two years to heal. I was certain I’d found the person I’d spend the rest of my life with. It’s so horribly cliché and I’ve exhausted every tear possible.
But I didn’t come back just to have my ego stroked, either. Yeah, I agree with everything. I was hanging over my keyboard waiting to disagree with something, but didn’t. And even if I had, we could present ideas calmy without blood pressure rising.
It’s doubly dangerous for me. Yes, positive reinforcement is designed to keep you hooked like a casino. But I remember a time before – the Before Time – and it’s also part of my ADD that I’m aware of. Conflict and arguments fire up our prefrontal cortex and tragically, help us focus. You could argue the same for the general population, but if you don’t believe me, then I must write an ADD article (where I will rant how I hate the revised acronym of “ADHD” – but I digress [ironic, no?])
True, we don’t always plan ahead, but I was aware of the consequences for fighting back, as well. Of all my addictions, I’ve never been into gambling, but I suppose I was wondering what would happen if I said something. It made me feel a little less dirty about succumbing to the cults’ level, as it was on my own terms. As much a middle finger to Facebook more than any delusions I would change any minds.
If you haven’t seen the fifth season of Black Mirror, Smithereens dovetails a bit with Nosedive (which is easily in the top 10 so far of my favorite episodes of Black Mirror – big fan).
It seems a tad quiet here, but that’s just fine by me. Just don’t give me dings, bells or whistles. I mean, it’s all enough to make anyone a little ADD. Even watching movies from 15 years ago is like stepping back to a primitive world. Black Mirror’s whole fundamental premise or raison d’être, is this absurdity.
Our faces are glued to our phone screens. I’ve had it happen to me the last five years. And not to sound like “get off my lawn” but the younger generations are worse. Can you imagine? They have no concept of cursive or the Dewey Decimal system – and by that I don’t necessarily mean the world will be lost.
But, even I’ve lost a little of myself. I remember, just sitting in my room, listening to the local rock station and scribbling in my notebook, content – not anxious about the next notification or anything. Of course I’m not a troglodyte, else I would be here right now, but, well, I imagine you know what I’m saying.
Arguments can indeed stimulate focus but I think the insidious nature of hate-inspired arguments (almost always from the Trump cultists of course) is that the focus can be gravitationally pulled over to hatred. Since issues are rarely argued with them in good faith and their intent seems more to just throw rocks at the heads of the “non-believers”, it seems self-defeating. And pulls people down into that syndrome you describe, getting hooked on the conflict and being diverted from arguing the principles we wish to share and debate.
These social media sites have spent fortunes on analyzing the minds of people to exploit their psychological needs and weaknesses. They rely on distracting and addicting people, not to substance and worthwhile discussions but to more trivial and primal things. I think a keyword folks should keep in mind when thinking about huge, corporate social media sites is “exploitation”.
And as you describe very well, one can become overwhelmed after a while by the ganging up and hostility that one receives for posting an opinion on a platform that allows abuse. It actually can inhibit free expression, especially if one is not in a combative mood.
It’s like playing a sport where there are no rules and you can be attacked when you’re just trying to play your best game. After a while, would one really be focused on playing their best or instead, protecting themselves or attacking the opposing players?
I don’t think folks in the majority should play their game and that’s what these pointless social media battles are. Their kind of game, their demeaning of issues to namecalling and harassment, trying to make “them” upset and thus, “own the libs”.
Screw them. I think good folks need to keep their eye on the prize as the saying goes, it’s stripping these hatemongers and their leaders of power and steering this society back to sanity.
Yes, I liked Smithereens too. I too have many favorite episodes of Black Mirror and really enjoyed the interactive Bandersnatch.
I do think Black Mirror does a great job of illustrating how behind the curve we are with where technology is taking us. Things have been moving so quickly. For example, the quick adoption of Alexa and other voice control devices is kind of scary. In past science fiction films and tv shows where people had voice control over devices, the concept of losing one’s privacy never came up. Now, even with stories about how most everyone’s personal data is being exploited by social media and other corporations and even how Alexa and other services have been caught recording private conversations of unassuming users, it has proliferated.
Does privacy really exist anymore?
It is a bit less busy here than you may remember but the quality of conversation is what it’s always been and we have seen members returning here and there. Facebook and Twitter attracted a lot of blog members from most sites and while I wouldn’t predict that reversing hugely, there does seem to be a disenchantment with the social media giants that is leading to folks coming back to the more user-run sites.
I can attest from personal experience to the difficulty of today’s kids disconnecting from their phones and addictive, devious apps like SnapChat. We’re standing by as a society as our kids are preyed upon by technology companies. As Elizabeth Warren has proposed, the tech companies need to be broken up to be smaller and need to be regulated because they profit from betraying their users’ privacy.
Yes, I really do understand about how these social media sites get a hook into people, they’ve spent so much money learning how to make people become psychologically reliant on being on their sites, it’s no less intentional than the tobacco companies or opioid manufacturing pharma companies getting consumers hooked on their products.
Not something that belongs at The Planet.
How many times did you do Bandersnatch? I did it twice. But is was brilliant, with the illusion of free choice. I got different endings though.
I was told by a very thoughtful friend I found through snapchat. I tried signing up online and called her back. She said: silly, it’s for your phone. She’s only ten years younger and from backwater West Virginia.
Or my friends I’ve made working in Restaurants who are on Instagram, or Twitter for goodness sakes. I have one, but I never use it. I understand you can use it to link to articles and such, but 140 characters?
And what the hell is Tik Tok? Am I getting old? I’ve been in my apartment for about a year, and I threw a lot in the nice walking closet I have. I’m gradually unpacking. Among what I found are letters I wrote to a pen pal I had in Russia as a kid (when it was still Soviet). And even some notes I kept when we used to pass them between classes in Junior high and High School.
So, I don’t know how much I’m just getting old and remembering “simpler times” or how much technology sucks. I mean, I remember when I was 17 or 18, around 1998 and such. Dial-up, but the internet opened up so much for me. No pop-up ads, wrote my own html. It wasn’t my life, but it was exciting.
I do still like how I can talk to people from around the world, but nothing has the same intimacy of a hand-written letter. And, I never know if I’m being played or not. I’ve always been cynical. I’ve always dealt with Depression and been skeptical.
But, any faith I ever had in humanity has been destroyed as I’ve gotten older. Or not, I’ve read history. There was a brief time of hope things would be different, but… humans; greed.
I’ve found calling old friends helps me. So simple, right? Just calling someone? I liked the internet, because it helped me meet people, and I had social anxiety.
But, nothing is real anymore. I like the Planet as a name more than ever now. It feels like coming back to Terra Firma.
I haven’t even gone on my Tulsi Gabbard and Bernie Bros rant. I’m not exactly sure where you stand, but Facebook and the like tend to attract and reward the most extreme.
I watched Bandersnatch many times, exploring many of the paths, it was intriguing to me. Absolutely, it really did delve deeply into the issue of determinism vs. fatalism. Very cool.
Tik Tok continues the devolution of attention spans to 15 seconds. IMO, as Twitter has done, it trivializes and forces the simplification of thought. Plus, Tik Tok isn’t co-financed by the Chinese’s government and hasn’t already went used by them to gather personal data. But it’s fun to make a meaningless 15 second video on Ann app a foreign country isn’t using to steal your privacy.
The internet used to be fun. Before corporations, political agents, con men and nations learned how to exploit users for their gain. Letters and phone calls and in-person contact are a level of connection so critical to feed our humanity. Is it a coincidence that the country is so polarized as our communication, especially between different types of people, has migrated to electronic and distant forms?
I have my periods of cynicism and disillusionment but I also see people of conscience doing meaningful work. I saw voters come out in record numbers in 2018 to give Dems the House and this, oversight over Trump Andre Impeachment. Bad things happen, over a third of this country are amoral racists and Americans who could prevent so many political and social disasters don’t vote or don’t fulfill their civic duty to be informed and involved in their democracy.
But despite that, we have and will prevail. It just shouldn’t have to be so hard to stop assholes from getting into positions of power.
The Planet may not be as fast paced as the corporate social media sites but that’s kind of what sets it apart. It’s not about constant emotional stimulation at the expense of thoughtful and substantial conversation.
As for Tulsi and Bernie, there is a difference between them but neither of them or their rabid supporters are good for Dems or beating Trump. Tulsi is a blatant Republican and Russian asset while Bernie is all about railing against the 1% but doesn’t know how to bring other pols to work with him. And his supporters are often horribly obnoxious, turning off more voters than support him.
Warren look best to me right now.
I still have no idea what is going on. I like the slower paced actual thinking stuff here. Like I used to be. I may be too honest, but you get it. I’d like to focus on Iran, India and anything but Trump as much as possible.
As a writer, I have to.
And yeah, I’m for Warren. For now. I’ll … gosh darnit, it’s nice to be among not insane people.