In last night’s Democratic debate, the mainstream media aggressively overlooked their Great White Hope’s racial characterizations of black people and their parenting. Why? Because many of them have already made their choice for the Democratic presidential nominee and they are unwilling to acknowledge any of his negative aspects. They want the status quo, they do not want change and they are even willing to ignore racial insults from their favored candidate to have a center/right,
Is this just hyperbole by someone who favors a different candidate in the Dem primary? To be upfront, I am Progressive and I do favor Elizabeth Warren in the primary but I am on record here countless times affirming that I will vote for whichever Democrat wins the primary. Even if it turned out to be Biden…but I think that would be a serious problem for Dems winning the General Election in 2020. And the MSM would have the stain of an existential loss to Trump on their hands…but I’m sure they’d whitewash that away too.
Judge for yourself, here is the clip from last night’s debate in Houston, when Biden was asked about racial inequality:
First, please note Biden’s initial response to first being told by ABC News correspondent Linsey Davis, a black female moderator (one of only 4 in the history of debates), that she wanted to talk with him about race. He smiles and snickers. Why? How is that an appropriate reaction? Perhaps he recognized that he was about to be held responsible for a racial statement of his in his past?
Davis begins by detailing how in the past, Biden responded to school segregation by saying he feels no responsibility for “the sins of my father and grandfather” and with regards to reparations for slavery, “I’ll be damned if I feel responsible to pay for what happened 300 years ago.”
Wow. Isn’t that kind of white self-righteousness something we could easily imagine Donald Trump or one of his bigoted cultists spouting? And this came out of the mouth of a Democratic candidate? Of course, Biden’s response was not to apologize for having said that, he just pivoted quickly away to “red-lining” (huh?). Then quickly spun away from that to a pie in the sky promise of tripling money to Title 1 schools, raising teacher pay to $60,000 and installing flying unicorns in every gym (of course he had no legit proposal of how any of that would work or be paid for).
Then it took a turn for the worse. While the issue was about racial equality and segregated schooling, Biden pointed at the inferior psychological state of black people as a major part of the problem. He stated that more psychologists were needed in their schools then, in a most racist turn, declared that social workers needed to be brought into homes with black parents to “help them deal with how to raise their children”.
So…there aren’t a lot of white parents who need instruction on parenting their children (SEE: Every mass shooter and other rabid racists who became that way due to their parents)?
Biden went on to describe black parents in this way, “It’s not that they don’t want to help, they don’t know quite what to do. Play the radio, make sure the television…excuse me…make sure you have the record player on at night. Make sure the kids hear words.”
My question is, why aren’t people hearing Biden’s words? Putting aside his frozen-in-time mind that thinks people still sit around the Philco console listening to The Jack Benny Show or set the needle down on the Victrola to listen to a 78 RPM single of Glenn Miller (lapses like these should be far more troubling to voters than they seem to be), his old school white paternalism towards black people should be recognized as offensive and seriously out of touch by the MSM.
Yes, older black people strongly support Biden, primarily because he was President Obama’s VP. But would any other candidate get away with stating that the real issues needing to be dealt with when it comes to racism and school segregation
Wouldn’t a reasonable person have expected a response to racism and segregation that would have condemned the current structure of our economic and public school system that especially neglects African Americans in poor neighborhoods and seek to solve that institutional racism?
Maybe solving economic injustice and balancing the scales is the big picture solution a Democratic candidate should promote? Maybe putting out the fire is more important than blaming it on those who have been injured by it and framing them as helpless victims who are part of the problem?
In addition to refusing to apologize for his racist stances in the past and evidencing his white paternalist prejudices, Biden made many gaffes betraying his declining mental acuity. He called Bernie Sanders “President” (I’m sure Berners enjoyed that one), he stated that people who lost their jobs could buy into his health plan then denied he said “
But if you were watching MSNBC for the debate analysis, as I unfortunately did, the white paternalist got a full whitewash by the Republicans and moderates who dominate that channel (why is it that MSNBC is mostly a channel populated by disaffected Republicans who insist on telling Dems who they should vote for? How did that work out when they did it in their own party…that they had to abandon?)
The chorus on MSNBC included proven prevaricator and elitist Brian Williams, insightful but sometimes-tunnel-visioned Nicole Wallace, belligerent and aggressively center-right Chris Matthews, conservative Dem who lost in a record Dem win nationally in 2018 because she had the poor reasoning to chase after Trump voters instead of Democrats, Claire McKaskill, etc. They all sung a nauseating refrain of group-think to whitewash all of Biden’s sins.
Not one mention of the racist-tinged response Biden made to moderator Linsey Davis. However, the lion’s share of the Biden whitewashing they all nodded to was:
a. Biden’s mental acuity issues should be ignored because Trump’s lying is much worse.
b. Biden’s numbers in the polls have held strong and steady (Soon after Biden entered the race, on 5/6/2019, Biden polled at 46%. This week, Biden polled at a new low of 27%)
c. Biden’s unchanging polling (which is a falsehood, see above) proves Americans don’t care about his gaffes or mental status.
d. Democrats need to nominate a moderate to win back Trump voters in swing states and Biden is best positioned to do that (nope, Trump cultists are not big on reasoning and changing their minds. The real wealth of untapped voters, like those who helped Dems win their record victory in 2018, are their natural allies who don’t always vote, minorities, women
e. Biden is leading now in most demographics so he will be hard to beat (Hillary Clinton led Barack Obama in the polls at this point in September 2007, 41%-27%. A few weeks before the Iowa caucus, which Obama won, Hillary led by 40%-32%.)
f. Biden is the most electable (not an issue, all of the top 5 Dem candidates beat Trump in many polls by big margins. It doesn’t matter if Biden has the widest margin over Trump at 16% and Warren has a margin over Trump of 12%, both are just as electable).
It’s not surprising that center/right Republicans, who dominate much of MSNBC as hosts and pundits (excluding Hayes, Maddow
Biden has proven in three debates already that he is not steady. Waiting for Biden to respond to a question or an attack is like watching a YouTube video of a skateboarder grinding on a railing, will he land triumphantly or slip and wipe out in a very painful way?
The unfortunate truth is that Biden is loaded with racist and sexist baggage that may be quickly dismissed by the MSM’s Republican pundits who want a center/right Dem (that reminds them of old school center/right Repubs) but don’t doubt that it will be viciously exploited by Republicans and Trump in a General Election.
A seriously flawed candidate should not be acceptable to Democrats when an election of the existential importance of 2020 is at stake. Have we forgotten 2016 so quickly? Rationalizing away or powering through all the negatives Hillary brought with her to get her over the finish line in the primaries did not keep those issues from being blown up massively in the General Election.
The lesson from 2016 should be, nominate someone who is inspiring to voters and brings with them too little baggage to be buried under. The media types who are Republicans and lean center/right or right, are more preoccupied with filling the Dem nomination slot with someone reflecting their establishment sensibilities. That is different from picking the candidate most likely to beat Trump though they don’t recognize that.
These NeverTrump Republicans in the media do not want to see or acknowledge truths that interfere with their memes about Biden winning the nomination. They don’t want to engage in big-picture thinking and envision what a General Election against Trump (and the Russians) would really be like with such a flawed and vulnerable candidate as Biden.
Their thinking led to moderates like Jeb Bush losing primaries and Trump taking over their party and the White House. Not a great track record for people who now want Democrats to follow them. They don’t get it, this is not the era for old, white, establishment, incrementalists. Voters don’t want that, they’ve made that clear in the past two elections.
So Democrats should listen to the talk on the street of their fellow Democrats and independent voters, they should pay attention to recent history and election results, not Republicans in the MSM claiming to know best who Democrats really should nominate for President.
So what has this got to do with policy and getting people to vote for you with an audience of African Americans? What’s his message? Black people are thugs with rusty razors looking for a fight?
I don’t get the trip down memory lane. Is it supposed to make him look tough?
Watching once was more than enough. Weird.
Biden spent the weekend on a “pander-to-black-people-after-portraying-them-as-bad-parents-and-ther-kids-as-mentally-troubled-tour”.
And as well as mechanically reading speeches written for him about how awful racism is, he told this nutso story centered around a violent black man who was a gang member and how brave Biden was as a white man to stand up to a black pool sweeper.
Biden’s campaign is a facade, just show business wrapped around a stuck-in-the-1950’s entitled old white man and if he makes it to being the nominee, I truly worry Dems will lose and Trump will complete his annihilation of our democracy.
Biden needs to be beaten in the Dem primary…and I know just the woman to do it.
Aside from Hayes, Maddow, and O’Donnell, I’m finding it harder and harder to watch anything else on MSNBC. I gave up on Joy Reed because she talks too fast, and I needed a break on the weekends anyway. But the main thing that bugs me about all the shows is how they keep floating pictures of the Orange Meanie on the screen as other people are talking about him. Why? We know what he looks like. It’s not like we’ve never seen his face, and it’s not pretty.
I agree with you, as someone who favors younger candidates, especially Elizabeth Warren, that Democrats need to be appealing to Democrats. If all the Democrats and those of us who are liberal independents came out and voted in 2016, in spite of Comey’s last-minute nonsense, we would, as the protest sign said during the Women’s March, all be at brunch. There are enough Democrats to beat any Republican if they just come out and vote. I realize some districts are hideously gerrymandered, but even a lot of those districts had Democratic wins in 2018 because our people voted. We don’t need to talk any of the Orange Meanie’s fans into not being his fans. There are more of us than there are of them. But they vote. Therein lies the difference.
And btw, Joe Biden doesn’t have even half the Democrats supporting him. He may poll higher than the others, but his numbers have never been great. I have no idea why the media would be promoting him and ignoring his obvious flaws. I would vote for him if he’s the nominee and hope for the best—he’s certainly better than the Orange Meanie—but really, how about a woman? Someone younger? Someone more up to the rigors of the office? It couldn’t hurt.
I am an MSNBC junkie. I agree that the prime time line-up is good, but I also like Joy, Ari and Ali & Stephanie. I also agree that Warren is going to be a great president.
Do you think she’ll get the nomination? I know people who like her really like her. I’ve always been sort of fascinated with her since the first time I saw her on The Daily Show. 🙂 Her schoolmarm persona just might appeal to enough “conservatives” that she could win the election even if some Democrats don’t vote.
I watched the PBS NewsHour this evening as well as Washington Week with Bob Costa and the usual panel, and no one raised this issue at all in the entire 90 minutes of airtime that those two shows encompass! How could they have missed it? So thanks so much for raising this issue, AdLib.
I’ve seen polls that show that the preferred candidate of Black voters under 30 is actually Bernie Sanders. Why Biden has so much support from older Black voters is — frankly — a mystery to me. Yes, of course I realize that he was veep during Obama’s eight years. But are people listening to what he’s saying now? And has been saying for years?
I was talking to a centrist Dem friend this morning and she was pretty much convinced that Biden would be the eventual nominee. (But then, she does watch MSNBC religiously.) And she was pretty much okay with that. All I could say in reply was that if that turned out to be the case, I was fairly certain that we would be seeing 2016 (2.0 Version) again in 2020. “Let’s just play it ‘safe’ one more time and watch what happens.” i couldn’t think of anything else to say to her. Very disappointing.
I watched the PBS NewsHour tonight and was really disappointed Biden’s
sickening racism seemed — I’m afraid — almost deliberately ignored.
If older Black voters continue to be oblivious to Biden’s naked racism,
there must be a massive effort to get out the primary votes of the Black
voters under 30 to help keep Biden from getting the nomination — if it
comes to it.
I think, as well as hope, Biden will have faded as a viable candidate well
before the primaries even start; but it seems there’s already a concerted
effort on the part of the reactionary Democratic establishment and their
allegedly centrist supporters to make Biden the Hillary Clinton of 2020 —
although they foolishly expect different results!
NoMan, I had to wonder whether PBS had made a conscious choice to “overlook” Biden’s comments as well. Maybe it’s just me — but it seems over the last few years, PBS (which used to pride itself on its neutrality) has developed its own agenda. You may have noticed — as I have — that a huge preponderance of its “experts” on political issues are from the Washington Post. Which — as we all know — is owned by Jeff Bezos. Granted, the WaPo has done some extremely good reporting. But there’s little doubt that they have their own (Bezos-guided) editorial stance too. They also swap reporters with NBC. Yamiche Alcindor and Bob Costa will periodically appear on Chuck Todd’s NBC show on Sunday, for example. As we all know again, the “MS” in “MSNBC” stands for Microsoft. So here we have two corporate giants — Amazon and Microsoft — dictating a huge amount of the information that television viewers are fed. And other networks are similarly influenced by other major corporations. That’s worrisome.
So yes, there does seem to be strong pressure to make Biden the Hillary Clinton of 2020. And as you implied in your final sentence: “The definition of madness is………”
I’ve noticed that, too. And I’ve also noticed the NewsHour often
has Matt Schlapp, Chairman of the American Conservative Union
on to represent the so-called “conservative” — but actually right-
wing reactionary Republican — view without ever mentioning that his wife, Mercedes Schlapp worked for trump as the White House Director of Strategic Communications in the Trump administration until July 19 this year. And she appeared speaking for trump from time to time.
Hello, PBS, conflict of interest anyone?
Good catch, NoMan! I’ve learned something today!
Thank you, Kesmarn. And really as far as I’m
concerned, this is only the tip of the proverbial
iceberg.
My newsflash for the NewsHour producers: There are NOT two sides to every story, and it’s the depth of journalistic irresponsibility to pretend there that are.
For a very long time, it has seemed to me the NewsHour has almost gone out of its way to
seek out a right-wing reactionary Republican to “balance” the viewpoint of a liberal or a progressive authority or a respected and knowledgeable retired diplomat or other retired government official.
Granted it’s easier — and it’s probably more
productive — to find hens’ teeth than to find responsible and rational conservative commentators, but I don’t think there’s any valid reason for the NewsHour to help political
extremists spread their noxious views in the guise of providing necessary “balance.”
There’s a reason the network is called “Public Broadcast Service.” It has a duty to be as impartial as it can; and in my opinion it could and should do a much better job in living up to it.
I don’t think Biden is a racist, but he is an old white male who was indoctrinated about race/ethnicity during Jim Crow and a time when white males had all power. He is not a bad person, but he is not a good choice for president in the 21st century.
I am not convinced that most older black voters support Biden that much. Jim Clyburn might support him and that might be why he polls so well in SC, but I don’t think he polls that well with older blacks in other parts of the country.
Although the main stream media is saying that Warren lacks black support, she is viewed very highly among black women, which is a key Democratic demographic.
TOCB, I agree in that I don’t think Biden is a bad person either. I really believe his heart in the right place. But as you say, he’s a product of his era.
It’s interesting to read your observation that you’re not convinced that most older black voters support him. I’m relieved to hear that. I forget what publication posted the original article that I read which indicated that most of Biden’s support among black voters did not come from younger black citizens, so I’d be hard pressed to cite the statistics/polls that were used to support that p.o.v in the article. I’m glad you have a different take on that.
Also interesting to read that black women have a positive opinion of Warren. Having worked the polls for a number of years one thing I have observed (in Ohio at least) is that black women vote! (Not that black men don’t… LOL!) But I would say the ladies have the greater numbers in that area around here.
Here is someone else who seriously agrees with you. It was mind boggling and got a lot of journalists in the international press pointing it out.
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We just witnessed ‘one of the most explicitly racist moments of all time in a Democratic debate’: author
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/we-just-witnessed-one-of-the-most-explicitly-racist-moments-of-all-time-in-a-democratic-debate-author/
I am so glad to hear this, I didn’t read any articles with this POV before writing this, I wondered if it was a view that wasn’t shared by many or might seem way off base but it seemed so blatant to me. What was disorienting was the absolute ignoring of it in the major news outlets and instead, the promotion of Biden in alleged “liberal” bastions like MSNBC.
We always go after Trump’s cult for believing him instead of their own eyes. If we’re different from them, we can’t ignore what we witness even if most of the MSM acts as if it never happened.
Wrong is wrong and this mission that the NeverTrump Repubs are on, including the corporate media they work for, is to elect the closest thing to a moderate Repub that they can. But they’re still Repubs, they backed Bush and all the deceit behind him and his presidency (he stole the election with the help of a corrupt SCOTUS, let’s not forget…and these Repubs happily embraced that).
They may be against Trump but they’re not on our side and worked for or supported a corrupt administration.
So I think it’s important that we stand firm on our principles, against racism wherever it rears it’s ugly head and due to this performance by Biden, I think we need to aggressively oppose his candidacy for the Dem nom.
I do not want to be in a position of having to vote for him against Trump, as the lesser of two evils, if I have to I will but I feel very motivated to oppose him in the primary very vehemently.
There shouldn’t be support for any candidate who looks at fellow Americans as inferior because they’re not white. No one, especially a Democrat, should reveal that they believe that and get away with it.
If the network is being dishonest about what we saw and heard, they have no credibility left because they also helped to get trump elected in 2016.
This horror story about Biden saying that he bears no responsibility for what happened 300 years ago and therefore reparation, is highly offensive to me. Germany is paying victims, survivors and descendants of Jews affected by the Holocaust compensation for the last 60 years. You can’t dismiss it like Biden did. If a repub said this it would be disgraceful but expected. For a Dem running in a presidential race having served 8 years working in the Obama administration, I find it totally unforgivable.
My already low opinion of Joe Biden sank even more when he
coldly refused to accept any responsibility for the establishment
of slavery in the early days of America.
I read here not long ago in a post of yours that you came to
Great Britain from Germany at the end of the Second World War.
Biden’s reprehensible attitude is highly offensive to me as
well. A close paternal cousin of mine just left Trier, Germany,
yesterday after spending two days there visiting the city and
learning about her ancestors (who lived there since the 17th
Century) and the history of Trier’s Jewish community.
Her mother was born there and left for America with her parents
in 1923, but their house remained the property of the family until it was “bought” by a non-Jewish family in 1936 after her great grandmother fled for her life to Luxembourg.
Maternal cousins of mine lived in Warsaw and were slaughtered by the Nazis. And two cousins of mine fought
in the U.S. Army against the Nazis in Europe and two other cousins fought against the Japanese in the Pacific Theater.
Of course like you, I also find Biden’s conduct totally uunforgivable.
Hello NoManIsAnIsland, hope you are doing well?
I first came to England as a 9 year old in the late 60’s and went back to live with my grandparents until I was 13 because of violent xenophobic bullying.
In Germany I attended Catholic school where the nuns taught us factual history but I think it was the same in other schools too. We were very much aware of our past and shared a collective guilt because of it. Therefore Biden’s words were appalling.
We accepted our responsibility even though we hadn’t been born yet, and American slavery plus the treatment of Native Americans should have been addressed a long time ago. Accepting it was wrong is the first step. Trying to right that wrong is the next. Teaching it in schools is imperative. Ignorance breeds contempt.
I am so very sorry about what happened to your family, and it must never happen again anywhere in this world. Having people like trump and stephen miller controlling immigration has to be stopped, so I hope that voters use their heads and not just emotion to vote out trump and his cabal in 2020. Joe Biden is not the answer. He’s stuck in the past.
Hello, Kalima. I’m doing well, thank you. I hope
you’re continuing to do well in your post-surgical
recovery and that you’ll be able to see the
ophthalmologist next month about possible help
for your visual difficulties.
When you mentioned coming to England after the
war, I don’t think you mentioned a specific time
frame; and I mistakenly assumed it was much
closer to the war’s actual end. I know now, of
course, you hadn’t even been born then!
At best, Joe Biden would be a reprehensible
hypocrite. But having followed his life and career
rather closely for a long time, it’s my considered
medical opinion he’s a despicable racist. The only
question in my mind is whether he’s an unconscious
racist or is in denial of his racism. And as a practical
rather than clinical matter, the distinction is
immaterial as his outlook and behavior are the same
regardless of the diagnosis.
Apparently Biden isn’t capable of understanding this,
but one needn’t be a miraculously surviving 400 year
old slave-holding Englishman from the Jamestown
settlement of the Colony of Virginia – or even be
related to one – to feel a moral responsibility for the
evils of slavery and its still reverberating
consequences in an America which is only starting
to realize it must begin to make reparations to
the descendants of those violently brought to our
shores against their will and all humanity.
Essentially I’m of three quarters Lithuanian descent
and one quarter Latvian descent. My mother was
born in Lithuania in 1902 and came to the U.S. in
1904 with her parents and two older sisters, and my
father was the first in his family, in 1897, to be
born here. So unlike Joe Biden, I don’t have a drop
of Irish or English blood that could connect me in
any conceivable way with American slavery.
The only thing (fortunately) he and I have in
common is our white skin. But that’s enough to
have made me feel ashamed of even just looking
like those who enslaved others, and I’ve spent
the greatest part of my life fighting for racial
equality and justice.
Thank you very much for your sympathy for the
murder of my Polish relatives in the Holocaust.
As far as I know, they were the only members of
my family who didn’t leave Europe before World
War One. And despite the flood of warnings and
entreaties from the family here to leave Poland in
time, they were in complete denial of the danger
they faced and died because of that.
I can’t adequately express how angry I was to read
you had to return to Germany because of “violent
xenophobic bullying” in England, or how sorry I am
you had to endure it! That was unspeakably wrong!
Naturally we’re in complete agreement on the
criminal treatment of Native Americans, and it’s
beyond unacceptable it wasn’t addressed and
reparations made generations and generations ago. Essentially all of us who aren’t of Native American
stock are squatting on Indian land!
Joe Biden is not only not the answer, he’s also a
deplorable retrogressive part of America’s basic
dilemma!
And lastly, I can’t finish without speaking of the
horror of stephen miller. I take it you know his
parents are liberal Jews, and this makes him
utterly evil, as he’s the antithesis of everything
decent Jews (which automatically excludes
renegade Jews like Benjamin Netanyahu and his
Jewish supporters in Israel and elsewhere) stand
for.
In my mind, stephen miller is even more detestable
than the Jewish kapos in the Nazi concentration
camps. No one coerced miller in any way to turn
into a Nazi or aid Nazis.
This said, if American voters don’t vote out trump
and his cabal in 2020, they are no better than the
Germans who, consciously or not, brought Hitler
to power.
So sorry for the delay in replying to your wonderful reply to me. I was lucky enough to have two days in a row with my hubby off and not travelling around the country. A rare occurrence these days. We have just started our second day.
The surgery site is healing but the annoying numbness continues. I’ll be patient and wait another month or so. Thank you for asking.
Actually the bullying made me much stronger, and when I went back because my mother missed me too much, I threw myself into my studies to learn to speak English like a local. Finally I even managed to lose most of my accent. My mother never did.
I watch counties time after time electing the wrong people to lead. Even here in Japan it’s the old fogies still living in the 19th century who hold us back from a better future for all. Brexit was all about racism, xenophobia and misguided hate of “the other.” It brought back the disturbing time of my childhood.
We really have to elect younger people to office so that we can change the impotent directions of already tried and failed policies. Racists and bigots have no role on the world stage and must be crushed by the majority. To do that we need good quality in education so that people will be able to make up their own logical decisions about who represents them and who to vote for.
Netanyahu has become the oppressor while demanding respect. He has broken so many international laws and should be in front of the ICC by now for crimes against humanity.
I found this interesting article the other day. Just read that he didn’t show up for his campaign rally because his polling numbers are low. Now he’s turning to trump whose polling numbers are in the 30s. That made me laugh out loud.
I wonder how much longer we will hear Biden’s gaffes and be told that that’s just Joe Biden?
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Israel and the decline of the liberal order
The rise of nationalism around the globe may be reflected in the outcome of Israeli elections on Tuesday
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/09/12/liberal-world-order-helped-israel-flourish-now-state-is-pushing-back/
Indeed and not only is MSNBC being dishonest, they are promoting propaganda to support a particular candidate which is outrageous for a cable station trying to portray itself as a news channel.
Your perspective on why Biden’s remark is so offensive, is so powerful. I don’t know that he has stopped to think for a second how he and his ancestors were born into advantage because of the suffering of slaves in this country. He wants to pretend they’re not connected? It is very offensive.
It’s well known how taken for granted racism is in the older generation that grew up in a society where it was more normalized. The crazy old aunt obliviously using the “n” word without any insult intended…is not unusual but evidence of having marinated in a racist society through her life. Just like Biden.
This is not the leader we need right now, not a leader to take us forward. His platform, his oblivious racism, it’s all rooted far in the past and supporting him as the nom is courting disaster and as I’ve written about, insuring that we have a one term Dem president, possibly followed by Don Jr. or President Ivanka.
We have to do batter than Biden. How’s that for a bumper sticker, “Let’s Do Better Than Biden”?
Not only were they abducted from their homeland and families to suffer decades of abuse, their descendants are still being treated as second class citizens by descendants of people who committed the sin or benefited from it.
As I said in another reply, unlike America, we were taught about our awful past in school so even those of us born after the war, shared a collective guilt and shame for that terrible part of our history. Reparation is not something to shun just because you weren’t there. It is woven into the fabric of the country and it’s people.
Yes, let’s do better than Biden.
I have seen Biden condemn others over racism but I have never seen him express regret for how all white people in his generation and before and since, benefited from institutional racism.
And reading speeches your paid staff writes for you about racism doesn’t cut it for me.
Bravo, AdLib! If Joe Biden had any capacity for self-examination and
repentance, he would be mortified by his show of openly patronizing
and appalling racism directed last night at a black moderator, no less!
I’m deeply ashamed that someone with Biden’s very checkered record
is being held up as the great (and I deliberately refrain from using the
word “white”) hope of the Democratic Party to retake the presidency
in 2020.
Anyone who thinks Biden will bring more low information and racist
former Democrats who voted for trump back to vote for him than he
will lose among the multiple demographic groups without whose
support no Democratic candidate can win, is very sadly mistaken.
And as for the mainstream media, it’s so clueless and subservient to
establishment and corporate interests and so out of touch with today’s
political realities, it should be called the “muddledstream” media.
Thanks NoMan!
I felt like I was in an alternate universe! The MSNBC crew applauding Biden and praising him as having a great night as if he never said what we all heard him say! Had Trump said the same thing, they would be calling him racist but because Biden said it, they simply ignored it like it never happened!
So what does that make the MSNBC hosts and pundits? Didn’t Mayor Pete say in the debate that it’s racist to support racists? Do MSNBC folk think that only applies if the racist is a Republican?
And another thing I haven’t seen MSNBC or other MSM outlets mention, when Bernie was arguing for M4A and said that we pay double per capita for health care with worse outcomes than the rest of the developed world…Biden interrupted and said something to the effect of, “That’s because we’re America.”
WTF? So Biden thinks it’s a point of pride that Americans are paying twice as much for healthcare and getting ripped off? He’s not on the side of Americans, he’s on the side of insurance companies!
I like “Muddlestream”! Much as I hesitate to criticize the media after Trump’s all out assault on them, I also don’t feel we can stand by as they enable racism in Democrats and are meddling in elections by twisting and manipulating truths to accomplish personal and/or corporate goals.
You’re welcome, AdLib!
I can take reading about the MSNBC crew’s unwarranted praise of
Biden’s overtly racist performance; but I’m just glad I didn’t see it.
Warning — graphic full disclosure coming: For while I’ve vomited no more than four times in my life, I might have done it again had I been subjected to their odious hypocrisy.
Memo to the MSNBC hosts and pundits: Mayor Pete had it right. It
is racist to support racists. You can expect to get your complimentary KKK robes and hoods in tomorrow’s ConfedEx delivery.
And here is the astonishing Sanders-Biden exchange verbatim: Now let’s be clear, Joe,” Sanders said. “We are spending twice as much per capita on health care as the Canadians or any other major country on Earth.”
“This is America,” said Biden.
In what cockeyed La La or Cloud Cuckoo Land must someone live
not to realize that with that brilliant comeback (/s) Biden
accidentally revealed who he really serves. And his very well
practiced and studied false bonhommie notwithstanding, it’s the insurance companies and large corporations– NOT average Americans — Biden takes his establishment marching orders from.
And I’m glad you like “Muddlestream.” It just popped into my mind as I was thinking of an appropriate name to call that segment of the media which willingly betrays journalistic ethics and standards for their own devious reasons.
One thing about this Trump Era, the facades all around are being torn away. There have been other times where the craven corporatism of MSNBC has been exposed but it’s really revealed now when their favorite pro-corporate candidate gets himself in trouble.
Thanks for the full quote, it is kind of stunning. You described it well, it’s Biden saying, “So what? Corporations have every right to make lots of money off of human suffering.”
“Muddlestream” is an original to me, I’ve never heard it before and it’s fare more descriptive and accurate…and amusing, than “lamestream” or “Fake News”.
The facades all around really are being torn away, and it’s well that they are. It just reminded me of Dorothy pulling away the curtain and revealing the great Wizard of Oz for the puny little man he really was. Although in this case, the corporations are anything but puny — and they wield far too much power over the government and thus our lives.
You’re welcome for the full quotation. And to me, Biden has never appeared more disdainful and arrogant than he did then. He could easily have said what you thought of. He could also have said “Like it or lump it, you suckers.”
“Muddlestream” should be an original to you — and everyone else, for that matter. To my knowledge, it was never used before until I thought of it and wrote
it to you last night. Again,I’m very pleased by how it strikes you.
Feel free to popularize and use it if you’d like. I care only for exposing the muddlestream media’s duplicity, and not for attribution.
I guess that’s the consequence of being in times when a horrible man has power over a country and is decimating its decency, phony words and facades can’t cover up such obvious and harsh realities…for those who aren’t marching as brownshirts behind a hateful tyrant.
Very generous but I will still direct all royalties from the usage of “muddlestream media” to your account.
Right. And since you insist, I’ll
accept the royalties for using my
phrase. Only what do you think
of calling it “muddledstream”
instead of “muddlestream” media?
I think it not only sounds better with
the added “d” but is more meaningful, too. Your opinion?